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Battery Backup tweak ---- 5+ hours SOT easily (Dual sim,cm12.1,RR)(Heavy Usage)

Tweaks to enhance battery......
Flash CM or RR (latest build)
Do not install xposed framework as it will cause random reboots,in result battery drain.
Install these three application:-
1. DS Battery Saver Pro
2. Greenify
3. Terminal Emulator
4. Universal Init.d ( Enable it to run the scripts )
Governor - Yankactive
I/O - Sioplus
For stock kernel - interactive and cfq
Go to the below link and download NITRO X SPARK V3.0 VISION OFFICIAL X86 version :-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/mod-projct-mod-boost-nitro-x-edition-t2809443
Simply flash the downloaded zip file through cwm or twrp recovery.
Reboot your phone
Now go to Terminal emulator and type the following commands:
>su
>menu
Following are the images what you have to do do,kindly follow the instructions:-
Ds battery saver Pro and Sot images are attached too(90% to 5%)
*Do at your own Risk
Enjoy Enjoy Enjoy......

Thank you

I have 4h21 on stock rom with 60minutes of heavy 3d gaming (37m of DH5, 20m of Dustoff Heli Rescue and 13m of Asphalt8) from 100% to 10% with playing about 65min of MP3 on bluetooth.
Even if i complain about battery life, it is sad that also the CM rom isn't better.
It is true i am not on dual sim
We just have to hope that this gets better and better

gontie said:
I have 4h21 on stock rom with 60minutes of heavy 3d gaming (37m of DH5, 20m of Dustoff Heli Rescue and 13m of Asphalt8) from 100% to 10% with playing about 65min of MP3 on bluetooth.
Even if i complain about battery life, it is sad that also the CM rom isn't better.
It is true i am not on dual sim
We just have to hope that this gets better and better
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surely u will get better in stock.....but still 4.25 hrs....single sim....heavy usage...
with this tweak u can get more than 7 hrs of heavy usage.. single sim..more than 5 hours in dual sim....easily....but u should have custom rom with governor yankactive and scheduler sioplus....

rex_perfect said:
surely u will get better in stock.....but still 4.25 hrs....single sim....heavy usage...
with this tweak u can get more than 7 hrs of heavy usage.. single sim..more than 5 hours in dual sim....easily....but u should have custom rom with governor yankactice and scheduler sioplus....
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7 hours, wow, this is what we should have from the start with the stock rom.

rex_perfect said:
surely u will get better in stock.....but still 4.25 hrs....single sim....heavy usage...
with this tweak u can get more than 7 hrs of heavy usage.. single sim..more than 5 hours in dual sim....easily....but u should have custom rom with governor yankactive and scheduler sioplus....
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Cm kernel doesn't work with latest release

S#@DY said:
Cm kernel doesn't work with latest release
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U can use interactive and cfq.......and this mod...

rex_perfect said:
Tweaks to enhance battery......
Flash CM or RR (latest build)
Do not install xposed framework as it will cause random reboots,in result battery drain.
Install these three application:-
1. DS Battery Saver Pro
2. Greenify
3. Terminal Emulator
4. Universal Init.d ( Enable it to run the scripts )
Governor - Yankactive
I/O - Sioplus
For stock kernel - interactive and cfq
Go to the below link and download NITRO X SPARK V3.0 VISION OFFICIAL X86 version :-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/mod-projct-mod-boost-nitro-x-edition-t2809443
Simply flash the downloaded zip file through cwm or twrp recovery.
Reboot your phone
Now go to Terminal emulator and type the following commands:
>su
>menu
Following are the images what you have to do do,kindly follow the instructions:-
Ds battery saver Pro and Sot images are attached too(90% to 5%)
*Do at your own Risk
Enjoy Enjoy Enjoy......
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anyone thinking of doing this absurd solution to get a better battery life should just get another phone.

rex_perfect said:
U can use interactive and cfq.......and this mod...
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The mod doesn't work,
Everything says that init.d scripts are only read only(in terminal) ..

Relayers said:
anyone thinking of doing this absurd solution to get a better battery life should just get another phone.
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Everything working fine on my side.....and my phone is still the same...

S#@DY said:
The mod doesn't work,
Everything says that init.d scripts are only read only(in terminal) ..
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You need to emulate init.d..

Done, using universal init.d

rex_perfect said:
Everything working fine on my side.....and my phone is still the same...
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your missing my point obviously. And no your phone is not the same. 1- You lost your warranty 2- You run CM/RR instead of the ZenUI

Relayers said:
your missing my point obviously. And no your phone is not the same. 1- You lost your warranty 2- You run CM/RR instead of the ZenUI
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Come on.....that is obvious.... Anyways...who needs tha warranty after cyanogenmod .....

rex_perfect said:
Come on.....that is obvious.... Anyways...who needs tha warranty after cyanogenmod .....
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another weird comment.
I used CM since 2010 and I dont want to ever touch a their ROM again. It was a complete disaster on the OPO. I cant even remember using a stable CM build, EVER. Give me any CM ROM on any phone and I can make it crash (in 5 minutes) or random reboot in less than an hour.
Overrated ROM from IMO. Didnt they just signed a major deal with Microsoft ? hahahaha, what a pathetic team.

What's the difference between yours tool and LS ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/tweak-l-speed-v1-0-02-02-2015-t3020138) ?
Sent from my Asus Z00A

Relayers said:
another weird comment.
I used CM since 2010 and I dont want to ever touch a their ROM again. It was a complete disaster on the OPO. I cant even remember using a stable CM build, EVER. Give me any CM ROM on any phone and I can make it crash (in 5 minutes) or random reboot in less than an hour.
Overrated ROM from IMO. Didnt they just signed a major deal with Microsoft ? hahahaha, what a pathetic team.
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I haven't had a single crash or random reboot using CM on this phone. Mate, you are coming across as really negative on quite a few threads on this forum. So you bought a zenfone but it isn't up to your expectations? It happens, get over it. Sell it and buy something else if it is bugging you so badly.

Relayers said:
another weird comment.
I used CM since 2010 and I dont want to ever touch a their ROM again. It was a complete disaster on the OPO. I cant even remember using a stable CM build, EVER. Give me any CM ROM on any phone and I can make it crash (in 5 minutes) or random reboot in less than an hour.
Overrated ROM from IMO. Didnt they just signed a major deal with Microsoft ? hahahaha, what a pathetic team.
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I went through all your comments on this thread. I can't help but notice how much of a pessimist you are. You are shooting down this man's post just because you have some personal issues.
Firstly, voiding warranty and flashing a ROM doesn't magically turn your device into something else. If that was the case, more than 70% of the people on xda must be having "different phones" by now. XDA is about "hacking" your phone to get more out of it or to suit your lifestyle. We don't care about "warranty" or "zenui" and its software gimmicks. It seems like you have come to the wrong neighborhood. Go watch some youtube reviews and surf around Google play store to make yourself happy.
Secondly, it seems like you have a personal vendetta against CM. You are basing your opinion on one experience one device? That's a joke. And they signed a contract with MS? With Micromax? So what? Does it affect the usage of your mobile phone in any way?
Thirdly, if you don't like it, stay the **** away from it.
It's been a while since I've been this rude on a post. But with all due respect, please take your nonsense elsewhere.

Relayers said:
another weird comment.
I used CM since 2010 and I dont want to ever touch a their ROM again. It was a complete disaster on the OPO. I cant even remember using a stable CM build, EVER. Give me any CM ROM on any phone and I can make it crash (in 5 minutes) or random reboot in less than an hour.
Overrated ROM from IMO. Didnt they just signed a major deal with Microsoft ? hahahaha, what a pathetic team.
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i can crash my phone (of course with stock rom, i meant by any stock rom, any phone, touchwiz zenui emui miui just name it) in 2 seconds.
just by slamming it the to the wall or floor..
anyway, i just cant stand on rom racism on xda.. if you dont like the rom, just shut up and dont hurt other developer's feeling or their hardwork.. if you can cook a rom, i bet that no one will ever download your rom if you are behaving like this..

Relayers making drama on this forum, thats good.
Btw. I am typing this using cm rom

[Q] Stock or Not to Stock

I have unlocked my bootloader, rooted with Magisk and flashed AsopExtended Rom. Very happy with the performance of my A2017U as it is right now. My question to ya'll is, What would be the pros and cons of returning to complete stock (for OTA updates) or sticking with rooted and custom rom and not being able to receive OTA updates?

whats the question here? Its on you... what you prefer

Lol that depends of your needs - I stick to stock because of audio (mostly) and somehow bcz of camera (as far as I know you can install stock camera app).
That's question is a little bit irrevelant when you was stock and now you are testing custom rom.
So the answer is simply - replay to your question by yourself and with margin to your needs.

Had to test the waters with custom roms on this phone, but was just wanting to hear other peoples thoughts on the subject. I've always tinkered with customizing my phones and enjoy doing so. Would like to hear different points of view and then see if it would make me change my mind. Sometimes custom roms have little bugs that people can or can't live with, and in some cases stock is best for total functionality. Just curious of others opinions.....

amaury48 said:
Had to test the waters with custom roms on this phone, but was just wanting to hear other peoples thoughts on the subject. I've always tinkered with customizing my phones and enjoy doing so. Would like to hear different points of view and then see if it would make me change my mind. Sometimes custom roms have little bugs that people can or can't live with, and in some cases stock is best for total functionality. Just curious of others opinions.....
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IMHO custom ROMs are littered with bugs, but mostly overlookable. Take the phone bug or storage with SD card bug for example.
Stock works better in every regard (except substratum, damn you mifavor) and with MiFavor 5 this is even truer. But if you like your current ROM there's no reason to go back...

Choose an username... said:
IMHO custom ROMs are littered with bugs, but mostly overlookable. Take the phone bug or storage with SD card bug for example.
Stock works better in every regard (except substratum, damn you mifavor) and with MiFavor 5 this is even truer. But if you like your current ROM there's no reason to go back...
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Yeah, I finally went back to stock B25 via the DrakenFx method to retain root and custom recovery. I came across the phone bug on my custom rom and that helped me make my decision to go back to a stock rom.....

Yep, used custom ROMs from the first week of owning the phone until about a month ago when I went back to B25 with Magisk. Couldn't be happier.

I was about to make a similar thread myself but saw this one. I have been running custom roms since day one but have been considering returning to stock.
A brief summary of the benefits:
Reasons to go with stock:
Fully functional ZTE camera app with no bugs - This is perhaps more important than you might think, ZTE haven't enabled the Camera 2 API which means its very possible we are going to get the best quality and feature-set by sticking with the stock app. If ZTE haven't released their blobs there could very well be reasons to stick with the default camera app...not only that but I like it. You can install the mod, but there are aspects that will never work and some roms and kernels play more nicely with the mod than others.
Dolby Atmos app. Similar to the camera on stock this would just mean less messing about, you can of course get atmos mods in magisk but whether they work as well as the stock ZTE app I am not sure. The strange thing is I have never had the stock ZTE Axon atmos magisk mod to work on a custom rom, even though I have an Axon!
Reliability, no need to worry about force closes or apps not working, everything pretty much just works. So much less stress if you use your phone as a daily driver.
Ease of use, less features makes the phone easier to use. In some cases even when you are a tinkerer like me its sometimes good to be able to forget about continuously tweaking stuff and digging yourself in to a never ending upgrade cycle.
Oreo, it looks like if you stay stock we will see Oreo sooner than custom roms.
Reasons to go custom:
Substratum, oh boy would I miss this going back to stock. The ZTE theme engine is pants compared and I love the work that goes in to my current premium theme.
Battery life, perhaps with the aid of also a custom kernel there are some very nice roms and kernels being worked on which allow you to fully customise and save battery life.
Features, you can set the phone up exactly as you want too, every small detail can be customised. You can choose exactly which rom you like based on the features you use.
Performance, you can get more performance out of a custom rom with custom kernel and find a nicer balance between battery and performance, whichever suits you.
Fun, its fun to flash different roms and get the flashing bug. You learn a lot and get to join in with a fantastic community where people help each other.
Third option, run a debloated custom rom.
Seems to be more and more popular, as an ex Nexus 5 user I loved Cataclysm rom for this very reason. You keep all the features associated with stock with added performance benefits, fixes and less bloat. There is a downside if you plan on keeping atmos as some stock roms seem to strip it away, but it is a nice compromise between the options above. Usually these roms are more reliable as they are based on stock too. If you want a lean rom that just works, this may suit you!
Its such a hard choice and one I still havent decided on, if I have missed anything please let me know!
Background info and summary:
My first smartphone was a ZTE blade 2 and it was a beast for the money, this phone is tremendous too. My GF owns a pixel and apart from the camera this phone trumps it for value no question...for less than half the price.
I have to say though, I do miss the days of my Nexus 5 and the larger mod community, I realise these days have gone now with google devices but perhaps next time I will opt to go to Oneplus just so I can trust a bit more that there will be less caveats going custom as if there is one complaint I have with ZTE it is their unwillingness to release their source code for the little tiny things like the camera api and atmos.

Dodgexander said:
I was about to make a similar thread myself but saw this one. I have been running custom roms since day one but have been considering returning to stock.
A brief summary of the benefits:
Reasons to go with stock:
Fully functional ZTE camera app with no bugs - This is perhaps more important than you might think, ZTE haven't enabled the Camera 2 API which means its very possible we are going to get the best quality and feature-set by sticking with the stock app. If ZTE haven't released their blobs there could very well be reasons to stick with the default camera app...not only that but I like it. You can install the mod, but there are aspects that will never work and some roms and kernels play more nicely with the mod than others.
Dolby Atmos app. Similar to the camera on stock this would just mean less messing about, you can of course get atmos mods in magisk but whether they work as well as the stock ZTE app I am not sure. The strange thing is I have never had the stock ZTE Axon atmos magisk mod to work on a custom rom, even though I have an Axon!
Reliability, no need to worry about force closes or apps not working, everything pretty much just works. So much less stress if you use your phone as a daily driver.
Ease of use, less features makes the phone easier to use. In some cases even when you are a tinkerer like me its sometimes good to be able to forget about continuously tweaking stuff and digging yourself in to a never ending upgrade cycle.
Oreo, it looks like if you stay stock we will see Oreo sooner than custom roms.
Reasons to go custom:
Substratum, oh boy would I miss this going back to stock. The ZTE theme engine is pants compared and I love the work that goes in to my current premium theme.
Battery life, perhaps with the aid of also a custom kernel there are some very nice roms and kernels being worked on which allow you to fully customise and save battery life.
Features, you can set the phone up exactly as you want too, every small detail can be customised. You can choose exactly which rom you like based on the features you use.
Performance, you can get more performance out of a custom rom with custom kernel and find a nicer balance between battery and performance, whichever suits you.
Fun, its fun to flash different roms and get the flashing bug. You learn a lot and get to join in with a fantastic community where people help each other.
Third option, run a debloated custom rom.
Seems to be more and more popular, as an ex Nexus 5 user I loved Cataclysm rom for this very reason. You keep all the features associated with stock with added performance benefits, fixes and less bloat. There is a downside if you plan on keeping atmos as some stock roms seem to strip it away, but it is a nice compromise between the options above. Usually these roms are more reliable as they are based on stock too. If you want a lean rom that just works, this may suit you!
Its such a hard choice and one I still havent decided on, if I have missed anything please let me know!
Background info and summary:
My first smartphone was a ZTE blade 2 and it was a beast for the money, this phone is tremendous too. My GF owns a pixel and apart from the camera this phone trumps it for value no question...for less than half the price.
I have to say though, I do miss the days of my Nexus 5 and the larger mod community, I realise these days have gone now with google devices but perhaps next time I will opt to go to Oneplus just so I can trust a bit more that there will be less caveats going custom as if there is one complaint I have with ZTE it is their unwillingness to release their source code for the little tiny things like the camera api and atmos.
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Some comments about this:
-Stock still has RRO support, so while it is kinda craptastic to use substratum this way, it is doable. I have most of my apps with Swift Dark (the ones that don't force close anyways) and Lawnchair with black theme, on MiFavor 5 which already has a rather black quick settings screen. The result is awesome
While you might be getting more battery life from a custom ROM, I totally disagree on the performance part. Everything works just slower. But yeah, battery-wise I got 7h SOT once which is absolutely bonkers :silly:
If you want a nice modded stock try any MiFavor 5 modded ROM like RDX or ADM Team. Those keep Atmos and use MiFavor 5 B13, which seemingly have a new camera app?

Choose an username... said:
Some comments about this:
-Stock still has RRO support, so while it is kinda craptastic to use substratum this way, it is doable. I have most of my apps with Swift Dark (the ones that don't force close anyways) and Lawnchair with black theme, on MiFavor 5 which already has a rather black quick settings screen. The result is awesome
While you might be getting more battery life from a custom ROM, I totally disagree on the performance part. Everything works just slower. But yeah, battery-wise I got 7h SOT once which is absolutely bonkers :silly:
If you want a nice modded stock try any MiFavor 5 modded ROM like RDX or ADM Team. Those keep Atmos and use MiFavor 5 B13, which seemingly have a new camera app?
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Thanks I will give ADM a try first since RDX seems to exclusively for the A2017 and I own the A2017U.
Frankly when I saw substratum without OMS support before I wasn't impressed but it sounds like it's worth a look.
Performance wise I loved running AOKP. It runs so much faster than resurrection remix and faster than my brief time on stock also.
It's a pain sacrifices have to made somewhere, but I guess you can't argue for the money!

Dodgexander said:
Thanks I will give ADM a try first since RDX seems to exclusively for the A2017 and I own the A2017U.
Frankly when I saw substratum without OMS support before I wasn't impressed but it sounds like it's worth a look.
Performance wise I loved running AOKP. It runs so much faster than resurrection remix and faster than my brief time on stock also.
It's a pain sacrifices have to made somewhere, but I guess you can't argue for the money!
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I think you simply have to flash the univ bootstack and your modem file to install RDX, it just wasn't tested on other phones but the A2017. but yeah, just use ADM Team

If we don't get Oreo, I will root mine, debloat etc and unroot just to keep it stock but lean. Stock camera in Nougat is quite good IMO. Atmos is pants but I will leave it alone.

RobboW said:
If we don't get Oreo, I will root mine, debloat etc and unroot just to keep it stock but lean. Stock camera in Nougat is quite good IMO. Atmos is pants but I will leave it alone.
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what's the downside of having it rooted?

Some apps don't work and it has to be secure for work use.

RobboW said:
Some apps don't work and it has to be secure for work use.
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Magisk then...

Choose an username... said:
Some comments about this:
-Stock still has RRO support, so while it is kinda craptastic to use substratum this way, it is doable. I have most of my apps with Swift Dark (the ones that don't force close anyways) and Lawnchair with black theme, on MiFavor 5 which already has a rather black quick settings screen. The result is awesome
While you might be getting more battery life from a custom ROM, I totally disagree on the performance part. Everything works just slower. But yeah, battery-wise I got 7h SOT once which is absolutely bonkers :silly:
If you want a nice modded stock try any MiFavor 5 modded ROM like RDX or ADM Team. Those keep Atmos and use MiFavor 5 B13, which seemingly have a new camera app?
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Just installed adm rom and substratum but can't get any themes to work at all. Substratum appears to work and let's me install them but after a reboot they don't work.
I tested with the Google app, gmail and chrome amongst others. I am using swift black.
I guess it's just a bug with the adm Rom? Magisk is working fine I think.

Dodgexander said:
Just installed adm rom and substratum but can't get any themes to work at all. Substratum appears to work and let's me install them but after a reboot they don't work.
I tested with the Google app, gmail and chrome amongst others. I am using swift black.
I guess it's just a bug with the adm Rom? Magisk is working fine I think.
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It can't be because I had everything themed on ADM ROM too. Except system ui and that stuff since it can't be themed. no idea why that happens.

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It can't be because I had everything themed on ADM ROM too. Except system ui and that stuff since it can't be themed. no idea why that happens.
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Were you using the new release with version 5 of mifavor?
What about systemless host list in magisk enabled to get adaway to work?
Only two things I have changed. I am using A2017U with the b13 bootstack.
Haven't changed anything else so no idea why it isn't working.

Dodgexander said:
Were you using the new release with version 5 of mifavor?
What about systemless host list in magisk enabled to get adaway to work?
Only two things I have changed. I am using A2017U with the b13 bootstack.
Haven't changed anything else so no idea why it isn't working.
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i was using the old release with version 5 (ADM Team V3)

I would stick with stock unless you are an extreme power user. ZTE fixed 99% of the issues with MiFavor with 7.1.1 and custom ROMs are littered with SO MANY little bugs. MiFavor is extremely stable now. Audio and camera is also much worse on custom.
But hey whatever you prefer.

Do you have Stock or Custom Rom?

Do you have Stock or Custom Rom and why?

The vendor firmware landscape has been increasingly adequate for quite some time, providing multiple viable options for a satisfactory mobile experience - buying a device with the intention to separate from its out of the box experience as much as possible no longer makes a compelling case against the unique, and sometimes identity-forming, features provided as stock.
During earlier years, Android, and mobile firmware in general, was controlled by regulations and risks while expanding an entirely new platform. There is no alternative otherwise, and anything less conservative would border reckless abandon.
This paved the way for many enthusiasts under no control to have immersed themselves into the technology like the career engineers and developers were doing, but with the nearly full freedom to test ambitious ideas and solutions unlike their professional peers, who were often limited to free time and with no expectation of something even as simple as maintaining a message board OP exploring those ideas.
This allowed many of those ideas to manifest and be thoroughly tested by many and with an unmatched diversity of real-world usages and trending philosophies. This is when many projects helped form several of the early features unique to the Android platform, absorbing a substantial portion of the risks without fear of retribution, allowing the vendors to devote more time to polish and fine-tuning and less time devoted to brainstorming ideas and risk scenarios.
This afforded the hobbyists a custom platform having quite the head start and that could distance itself from the vendor experience in features, accessibility, and form.
Custom rom's had a different identity then than custom rom's do now, and that is with good reason as well.
Ignoring the few debatable exceptions, custom rom's are currently little more than variations or slight modifications of vendor firmware or AOSP. I exclude CM/LOS simply because CM was among the hobbyists described earlier.
With the feature gap as narrow as it currently is with Mr. Rom Dev and Mr. Lead Software Engineer, the professionals now enjoy an edge with often unlimited resources available providing an experience that is hard to match or exceed with limited time and resources, so users today understandably gravitate towards the familiar vendor experience with a manageable number of features or tweaks.
Of course, even in a market of no stock, consumer demand still determines the custom software landscape.
The benefit today is that ideas and solutions require an extraordinary amount of ingenuity and progressive thinking to stand out and enjoy active development for more than six months. The breakthroughs are far fewer but they are also more impactful in pushing the platform forward.
Having said all that, my purpose for exclusive use of vendor firmware is for hobbyist development reasons. I see no benefit a custom rom would provide for development. I mean, if it works, great. But, if it works only because of the rom, you have essentially prepared something to share among a fraction of one device's users.
If something fails to implement into the vendor firmware, I move on to something else. If it works great for some custom rom's, "Cool, man!", if not, a user has the choice to use the only firmware a developer could logically assume is in use.
So, put gh down for Stock! :good:

Yes, but with custom rom you can have better battery stats. You can also have fewer google apps.. And many more.

I use xXx NoLimits: a stock-based custom ROM. It meets all of my needs. Therefore, I have no reasons to try anything else.

lazostat said:
Yes, but with custom rom you can have better battery stats. You can also have fewer google apps.. And many more.
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I'm getting 10-12 hours of screen on time and idle time is about .3-.6% drain let hour on stock on OOS. There isn't anything custom out there giving anything better.

Eric214 said:
I'm getting 10-12 hours of screen on time and idle time is about .3-.6% drain let hour on stock on OOS. There isn't anything custom out there giving anything better.
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This.
Getting 10-11h SoT every cycle with stock ROM. Got 11ish hours the other day with almost 3 full days without charging.
Haven't seen anything better or much better then THIS.

lazostat said:
Yes, but with custom rom you can have better battery stats. You can also have fewer google apps.. And many more.
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Stock firmware does not necessarily need to remain "untouched".
Perhaps, a more accurate answer would be that my preference for a foundation on which to tailor to my specific needs is the stock OxygenOS firmware. It is certainly rare for users with root access to refrain from making a single change to the installed rom, be it custom or stock. :good:

With this phone it is the first time I've had to come to accept that stock is king, no custom rom compares to it, I've tried them all (yes this is subjective). Stock + a custom kernel + viper4arise and off I go.

I dont know if you count it as stock or custom since it is both but i use HydrogenOS and my own modification of its stock kernel. Im used to 9 hours SoT+ with .2% standby drain per hour. No performance sacrificed. Ill vote in the poll once u verify which u factor hydrogen os as.

tWoBrO said:
This.
Getting 10-11h SoT every cycle with stock ROM. Got 11ish hours the other day with almost 3 full days without charging.
Haven't seen anything better or much better then THIS.
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ok can you provide more insight? how you get it done......i average about 4-5.5 hours sot over two days........idle drain at1.33 and active at 12.55.

How I get it done? Everyone uses the phone differently, have different apps installed, etc.
Last few days I have used Wi-Fi 99% of the time, always on, Facebook, IG, Tapatalk (a lot), Gmail, Movies HD (a lot), Terrarium-tv (a lot), YouTube, a couple calls and sms here and there, but not much, Messenger, Chrome and app-like-Spotify with bluetooth on the car. I turn on location and bluetooth only when I need it.
Auto brightness is on, always on the low side, dark theme on, turned off vibration on touch (because of the double vibration bug in Oreo), turned vibration of on keyboard touch too (have sound on instead, I like the type writer sound when I type).
Let me see, I do have privacy fix module and sysconfig patcher installed on Magisk. This last one might gave you a boost in battery, but to be honest I don't even know if it actually works.
I would say that having a dark theme, screen brightness on the low side, and not having EVERYTHING turned on all the time are what makes the difference for me. I'm sure if I have bluetooth and location on, for example, all the time, when not needed it, it will cut a my time quite a bit.
Oh, I have notice that talking on the phone takes a lot battery. I don't talk that much on the phone, just those quick 30s-5m calls to ask a quick question or whatever.
I had great battery life out of the box with Nougat, but Oreo really made a huge difference. I'm talking about 2-3h of SoT on Oreo compared to Nougat.

Stock atw and ftw!

Finn the moment the phone I get breathes it's getting a custom ROM.
Always.

For a device like OnePlus 5, a custom ROM isn't really needed since the stock ROM is pretty much debloated and already offers a bunch of features.
Custom ROMs still offer many more features than any stock ROM though. They also get faster updates and for far longer. By the time OnePlus stopped providing updates to this device, custom ROMs will still be updated most probably.
I haven't flashed any custom ROM yet because the stock ROM has almost everything I need. The main reason I flashed ROMs was performance. The OnePlus 5 isn't lacking in this area.

Pure fusion, the Nougat version. It's the smoothest of all ROMs that I tried, has lots of settings and supports stock camera.

Codename Phoenix. Oreo 8.1, Very few bugs and for me a lot better than Stock. From the same dev making Pure Fusion.

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With this phone it is the first time I've had to come to accept that stock is king, no custom rom compares to it, I've tried them all (yes this is subjective). Stock + a custom kernel + viper4arise and off I go.
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How a custom kernel can help? I installed bluspark but i dont see additional settings.. How to make us of it?

CT-CRC said:
With this phone it is the first time I've had to come to accept that stock is king, no custom rom compares to it, I've tried them all (yes this is subjective). Stock + a custom kernel + viper4arise and off I go.
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Totally subjective and IMHO completely not true, you are hindered without root and without the ability to alter your phone in a positive way, not only for longevity of battery life but also in regards to performance, stability and stamina.
Stock does not compare to custom in any way for me.

Optimized custom rom could be great when the device is old, and no more supported.
Also, back in the days, let say with Gingerbread 2.3.x, not much nice/modded feature were present. Now, from what I can see, stock roms got almost everything.
OP5 is so fast rigt now, even if stock is heavier, we won't see much difference with a lighter rom.
But looking forward for custom roms in 2-3 years.

Ordered a OP6T and about to arrive. Help me find the icing on the cake

So my plan is to test the hardware first, and see if there's anything faulty, and then proceed into unlocking the bootloader.
I'm searching for a combination of:
>Very good stability
>A good battery life & no random draining
>Least grounbreaking bugs as possible
>Lots of customization (I like to tweak every possible aspect of the OS) & theming
I don't do a lot of gaming, mostly random games, few minutes per day while I'm on the WC.
So, my question is: should I go for Oxygen OS + rooting and sleep soundly or is there a combination of ROM and Kernel that takes the most out of the 6T respecting my requisites? Hit me up with your opinions!
P.S. No I'm not lazy and yes, I've read the ROMs threads but I would like some real life opinions.

I haven't touched a custom ROM yet and I've been really happy with OxygenOS!
I'm on stable 9.0.13 and active drain seems good but idle drain, not so much. I lose about 10%-14% overnight...
Wasn't the case on .12 and your results may vary on that.
For theming I use substratum and it works pretty well!
I'd like to try custom ROMs but I'm a heavy Tasker user and my profiles now heavily work with OxygenOS. I'd have to do a lot of modifying to get working well with AOSP.
Also, I've read about small bugs like choppy display corners and buggy fingerprint reader on custom ROMs as well. Not trying to bash any custom ROM, just explaining why I have stuck with OxygenOS.
I am strongly considering going to Open Betas though, as updates seem more frequent and security patches are more up to date there as well. I opened up a thread asking about the stability of Open Beta and its all been positive!
Hope this helps.

International ROM plus xXx is and root is nice place to start.

You know that the OP7 is 12 days from release and that the price for the 6T will probably go down, right?
Other than that, the best battery would be .11 if you don't mind the security patch. Just use that + Magisk and you can't go wrong.

shmykelsa said:
So, my question is: should I go for Oxygen OS + rooting and sleep soundly or is there a combination of ROM and Kernel that takes the most out of the 6T respecting my requisites? Hit me up with your opinions!
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I like Oxygen OS. If I were making a custom ROM it would be just like OOS.
I am confident OOS will suite your needs and meet your requisites.

shmykelsa said:
So my plan is to test the hardware first, and see if there's anything faulty, and then proceed into unlocking the bootloader.
I'm searching for a combination of:
>Very good stability
>A good battery life & no random draining
>Least grounbreaking bugs as possible
>Lots of customization (I like to tweak every possible aspect of the OS) & theming
I don't do a lot of gaming, mostly random games, few minutes per day while I'm on the WC.
So, my question is: should I go for Oxygen OS + rooting and sleep soundly or is there a combination of ROM and Kernel that takes the most out of the 6T respecting my requisites? Hit me up with your opinions!
P.S. No I'm not lazy and yes, I've read the ROMs threads but I would like some real life opinions.
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Running stock Beta 9; Magisk 19.1 and ElementalX 3.15.
I have EdXposed installed for customization.
Rock solid.

I'm a big advocate of stock ROMs + root
Most ROMs can get buggy, not dexopt apps etc
Stock is smooth and works perfect.
Add magisk and win

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Running stock Beta 9; Magisk 19.1 and ElementalX 3.15.
I have EdXposed installed for customization.
Rock solid.
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I'm not trying to be a pessimist, but EdXposed doesn't seem to be of much use. I mean I would like it to be, I used to love Xposed, however anymore it seems like most everything is outdated on there or built for older versions of Android. Is there something I'm missing?

flbenini said:
You know that the OP7 is 12 days from release and that the price for the 6T will probably go down, right?
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Sure I know, but I really need to change my phone because it's pretty old, and found a good offer for the 6T, so I just went on and bought it :good:
tech_head said:
Running stock Beta 9; Magisk 19.1 and ElementalX 3.15.
I have EdXposed installed for customization.
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Thanks for the feedback, I made a research about EdXposed, but I'm not really into Xposed because I often rely on Google Pay

Causical said:
I'm not trying to be a pessimist, but EdXposed doesn't seem to be of much use. I mean I would like it to be, I used to love Xposed, however anymore it seems like most everything is outdated on there or built for older versions of Android. Is there something I'm missing?
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I'm running EdXposed and a new version of GravityBox.

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I'm running EdXposed and a new version of GravityBox.
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Is there something beyond the repository in the main app?

Rooting

I finally rooted and flashed a good kernel, putting it under test ATM.
I wanted to ask if flashing the XXX NoLimits magisk module worth it and really improves the experience on the OP 8 Pro, since it's not a ROM, it's only a Magisk module (flash type).
I don't mean anything to the team, I heard it was great but I just don't want to mess my phone up with modules and other things, thanks

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I finally rooted and flashed a good kernel, putting it under test ATM.
I wanted to ask if flashing the XXX NoLimits magisk module worth it and really improves the experience on the OP 8 Pro, since it's not a ROM, it's only a Magisk module (flash type).
I don't mean anything to the team, I heard it was great but I just don't want to mess my phone up with modules and other things, thanks
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I used to flash xxx on the OnePlus 5, it was a full ROM back then but it was the best out of them all..
If the module is anything like the ROM then yes it's well well worth it, the developer gets so much right so for me it would be a go to ROM / Magisk ROM

I wouldn't even touch the optimization settings and stuff, no modern device needs them.
Maybe only debloat but that's it.

Lossyx said:
I wouldn't even touch the optimization settings and stuff, no modern device needs them.
Maybe only debloat but that's it.
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Id 100% turn off the page file no device with more that 4GB ram needs swap storage certainly not a phone with 12GB, the improvement in regards to gaming is night and day, so yep there is that.
Haven't flashed xXx so not sure what is on offer.
I have a saved config file from my time with the OnePlus 5 with xXx so I'll check on that and whatevers new.

dladz said:
I used to flash xxx on the OnePlus 5, it was a full ROM back then but it was the best out of them all..
If the module is anything like the ROM then yes it's well well worth it, the developer gets so much right so for me it would be a go to ROM / Magisk ROM
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Yep, it's a Magisk ROM, I'll surely give it a try soon.
I'm currently running stock OOS with Omega kernel, it's running very good.

Lossyx said:
I wouldn't even touch the optimization settings and stuff, no modern device needs them.
Maybe only debloat but that's it.
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Same, I have the 12gb RAM version so I don't think that any of these tweaks would really help, but I'll try some in the future, you know, we don't have much at the moment, the price of the phone is really high.

I run xXx with my own custom config on a OP8Pro 12GB/256GB with most tweaks emailed and zram disabled completely. Runs noticably faster overall. Snappier and launch times are super low. Also, even tho audio is good, the Viper + Dolby mod from xXx takes the speakers to a whooooole new level lol.
I always ran xXx on my old OP5 as well and it was great even tho I switched to Paranoid after a while just because I really love that UI style and customization. When PA Quartz is a bit more stable on the OP8Pro I will switch anyways but with xXx the stock ROM doesn't really miss anything that EdXposed and Gravitybox + Button Mapper + GCam can't fix like battery circle with percentage in it and flashlight shortcuts.

Imprezzion said:
I run xXx with my own custom config on a OP8Pro 12GB/256GB with most tweaks emailed and zram disabled completely. Runs noticably faster overall. Snappier and launch times are super low. Also, even tho audio is good, the Viper + Dolby mod from xXx takes the speakers to a whooooole new level lol.
I always ran xXx on my old OP5 as well and it was great even tho I switched to Paranoid after a while just because I really love that UI style and customization. When PA Quartz is a bit more stable on the OP8Pro I will switch anyways but with xXx the stock ROM doesn't really miss anything that EdXposed and Gravitybox + Button Mapper + GCam can't fix like battery circle with percentage in it and flashlight shortcuts.
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I rooted and flashed xXx along with Smurf kernel but I'm facing some issues with battery life, it's draining slightly faster than before. Other than that, the device is so responsive, fast and fluid.
I disabled zRAM completely and kept it all stock, that's the weird part but I hope I get better results this week. ??

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I rooted and flashed xXx along with Smurf kernel but I'm facing some issues with battery life, it's draining slightly faster than before. Other than that, the device is so responsive, fast and fluid.
I disabled zRAM completely and kept it all stock, that's the weird part but I hope I get better results this week. ??
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Well, there's your problem. Smurf kernel.
I would stay very far away from that kernel.

Lossyx said:
Well, there's your problem. Smurf kernel.
I would stay very far away from that kernel.
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Why? I think it mainly aims for performance and of course some battery improvements but not that much, it's not that bad.

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Why? I think it mainly aims for performance and of course some battery improvements but not that much, it's not that bad.
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That kernel is all about overclock and obselete poorly coded "tweaks" that are not need on a modern smartphone, especially not on Snapdragon 865.

Lossyx said:
That kernel is all about overclock and obselete poorly coded "tweaks" that are not need on a modern smartphone, especially not on Snapdragon 865.
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You know better than me, I'm not much into these things but you know, one that says it's great and the other says it's bad, the only way to know is to test it myself.
I tested the kernel, it's close to stock in terms of performance but the battery in stock is better.
The reason I'm using it is because I'm running xXx module which is best with Smurf kernel but I might get everything back to stock and test another kernel without the xXx module. Any recommendations?
EDIT: I just flashed blu spark kernel, I'll test it and tell you how it performs ?

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Why? I think it mainly aims for performance and of course some battery improvements but not that much, it's not that bad.
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Haven't flashed it but tbh the 865 is a beast of chip, it can easily run Dreamcast ROMs which is just staggering really. To push the chip any further is just not required.
For me if you can obtain the performance you get from the stock kernel and save battery then go for whatever that kernel is, from experience on all my device save maybe the galaxy S3 the stock kernel usually provides the best balance of performance / stamina, all the more so with current chipsets.
Aim for battery, performance should take care of itself.
If you're pushing for more performance I would ask myself for what?
I personally push my device more than most, not all the time but the emulators I run are probably the most demanding programs you can get on Android, if I'm good with the output of FPS on them at stock then I think you'll be fine too.

dladz said:
Haven't flashed it but tbh the 865 is a beast of chip, it can easily run Dreamcast ROMs which is just staggering really. To push the chip any further is just not required.
For me if you can obtain the performance you get from the stock kernel and save battery then go for whatever that kernel is, from experience on all my device save maybe the galaxy S3 the stock kernel usually provides the best balance of performance / stamina, all the more so with current chipsets.
Aim for battery, performance should take care of itself.
If you're pushing for more performance I would ask myself for what?
I personally push my device more than most, not all the time but the emulators I run are probably the most demanding programs you can get on Android, if I'm good with the output of FPS on them at stock then I think you'll be fine too.
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You're right, even though I flashed some kernels but I didn't really notice any improvements in the performance, the device is too fast and doesn't need junk tweaks to be improved, but the battery is better now with the kernel I'm running. Thanks for advising me brother

TheLegend975 said:
You're right, even though I flashed some kernels but I didn't really notice any improvements in the performance, the device is too fast and doesn't need junk tweaks to be improved, but the battery is better now with the kernel I'm running. Thanks for advising me brother
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No worries man, anytime.