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Google has removed 6P and 5X from its store.
I suppose this signal a specific clock that starts ticking now.
What's the official policy?
By the way, I read that 7.1 won't come as final version till next year. So much for speedy updates Google. Way to betray customers trust.
Simple search would give you this on EOL.
www.xda-developers.com/google-publishes-end-of-life-for-nexus-devices
So Security updates till September 2018 and major releases till September 2017.
I guess 7.1 will be the end of it.
Actually no. O will be the final Android OS update officially from Google. You will need to rely on the community starting from P.
XDA will save the Day!
Both the Nexus 5X & 6P will be stuck on the back burner now while Google put's all it's effort into these new overpriced phones of theirs, so much for having a Nexus for speedy updates as that will now be a thing of the past, we have to wait for 7.1 & it wouldn't surprise me if we probably get a half hash chucked together version aswell.
In another post I said i was going to keep my nexus 6P till it either dies or looses it support, I'm actually tempted now to get a Note 7 one that doesn't explode which is cheaper than a Pixel XL
Dissapointed
I pondered getting a 6P (from an S7 Ege) until now. Not sure it's worth it now that The Google Pixels are out. Software support for the Nexus devices will probably be an afterthought now.
Will then rather go for a Note 7. I'd rather wait 6 months for a OS update while rocking a phone with some pretty decent features...and that S Pen...! GIF mania!
What I won't do is walk around with a phone that people would continuously think is an I Phone.
For the first time Google, Android P's latest beta will be available on non pixel / Nexus devices including OnePlus 6, Essential PH-1, Xiaomi Mi Mix 2S, Sony Xperia XZ2, Nokia 7 Plus, Oppo R15 Pro, and Vivo X21.
I immediately jumped to get my 5T signed up, only to face disappointment.
Android P beta for OnePlus 5t was skipped and the same was available only for yet to launch OnePlus 6.
Lately I have got a feeling that OnePlus has shifted their interest from consumer focused company to buiness oriented company who are more concerned about thier new flagship and less concerned about thier previous users.
The unofficial treble support was provided to our device by the hardworking developers of OnePlus community but OnePlus did not make any efforts to provide the same.
The OnePlus community should send a strong message to the company that they should not make the old coustmers feel left out.
We should pass following message to OnePlus:-
a) Providing official treble support to 5 and 5t.
b) Providing the lastest Android version along with their new flagship phones.( Which will be possible if support for project treble is available).
c) Providing all the exlusive upcoming features to previous generation phones (5 & 5t) till the time hardware permits.
A) That is not going to happen. But Mokee ported Treble so hopefully an P Beta port will come to 5T at some point.
C) This is OnePlus we're talking about, I doubt they will.
I really don't think they care about the community anymore.
I thought OnePlus had quietly prepared the 5T for Treble by creating an empty Vendor partition in the background? It's not formatted yet, and OOS doesn't see it, but it's there?
I'm unhappy too, that they didn't use the 5T for their P beta, but if they provided the official base for Treble, then maybe we'll still see something from them or at least it will be easier for the XDA Devs...
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A) That is not going to happen. But Mokee ported Treble so hopefully an P Beta port will come to 5T at some point.
C) This is OnePlus we're talking about, I doubt they will.
I really don't think they care about the community anymore.
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A) If we push.. all of us.. we might stand a chance.
C) Exactly
As I commented in the news.
Quote Google: "beta available TODAY from those OEMs".
The "today" tricked me into thinking that this would be my beloved 5t but Oneplus let Google speak about an even unannounced device just to get in that damn presentation.
In other words: Oneplus doesn't even care about their existing flagship the moment they know the rough release date for their next one. This is beyond everything I have ever seen in the smartphone business. At the same time advertising heavily the OP5t on Amazon to get one of the last ones.
Oneplus was never a community focused company they just said it so often that the people thought it would be so.
HUGE DISAPPOINTMENT!
As far as I can see this whole Situation; we will get a taste of Android P anyway. Either officially or non official.
Official: because there in fact is an unused Partition (unformatted)
Unofficial: because hobby dev peeps around the globe were able to make the oneplus 5t Support treble.. therefore custom Rom creators should be able to create Android P roms for it.
Are y'all really surprised that we wouldn't get a P beta? Lol
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Yes I'm in. Let's make a petition on change.org ?
Many people said of the oneplus 5t, it's the best against essencial phone... Better software, updates, design... But Essencial phone 1 have the beta xD
Now who is the best ??
I have a 5t
Android P require treble ?
I know this won't go down well, but did none of you do your homework on OnePlus before buying the 5t? OnePlus launch a new, replacement device every six months and concentrate on marketing and selling that; Every six months our new (to us) device gets moved to the back burner.
This is not a new strategy, and should not come as a surprise! Google how OnePlus 2 owners felt! I owned a 3t that was virtually obsolete four months later!
And every time this happens - every six months when a new device is launched - there is a thread on XDA to petition OnePlus about the unfairness of it all!
If this news is a surprise to anyone you should've been more aware of how the company operates.
Rant over.
Really dont't care for stock android p beta.
Much prefer for oxygen beta program with android P
Stock android is very poor and lack customization and feature option that oxygen offer.
If i want stock android experiance better solution is AOSP custom rom with plenty of feature and customization insteed of totaly naked stock android by Google IMO.
So we get OOS beta based on P later. (OP6 get first.)
I'm guessing we're still getting Treble support. There already is a /vendor partition created in one of the Beta updates iirc and they said: "Something exciting for you OnePlus 5/5T owners later this summer". So i'm guessing they're referring to Treble support.
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I'm guessing we're still getting Treble support. There already is a /vendor partition created in one of the Beta updates iirc and they said: "Something exciting for you OnePlus 5/5T owners later this summer". So i'm guessing they're referring to Treble support.
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Where is it written?
cutmylifein2 said:
Where is it written?
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Look at the screenshot. Last section of text.
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Look at the screenshot. Last section of text.
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Later this year and later this summer are different my friend.
Later this year means December and not before that.. but OnePlus 6 will get it immediately on launch..
Essential phone has got it already.. y not us is the question
cutmylifein2 said:
Later this year and later this summer are different my friend.
Later this year means December and not before that.. but OnePlus 6 will get it immediately on launch..
Essential phone has got it already.. y not us is the question
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Yh one does not always remember the exact words. P requires Treble we do not have Treble hence why we don't get it yet. If you really want it install MoKee ROM which enables Treble and wait for an Android P GSI.
Everyone should stop acting like treble is a hardware based thing.
The only reasons we did not get the beta is that Oneplus 1. is too lazy to deliver 2. wants to boost OP6 sales.
Treble is something completely software based and can be added at any given time (even without bricking the device).
I think the real reason we are complaining is (like the title says) that Oneplus is announcing stuff for a device that isn't even on sale yet.
It's like Google would have said "...and of course Pixel 3 is getting the beta from day one. We are already testing it internally and it is working great. In the meantime we are all very happy that you bought Pixel 2".
Not surprising from OnePlus. Unfortunately, they only seem to be concerned with what's the best way to make more money even if it involves abandoning their current users. This move, like all the moves they make, is about money. Doesn't matter if they ignore their current flagship device or users. Sad but true.
I think we all saw it coming, right?
https://twitter.com/htc/status/1028000627794706432?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet
My HTC U Ultra is definitely my last HTC device. Since the HTC HD2 every year had a new HTC, but with the current update policy I really lost the last bit of confidence.
It’s likely that only HTC’s U series will get the update, with the U11 Life, U11+, and U12+ all expected to receive Android Pie in Q4 2018. Following in early 2019 are the HTC U11 and U11 EYEs, and in Q2 2019 the HTC U Ultra.
https://www.techadvisor.co.uk/how-to/google-android/get-android-pie-now-3613690/
Justin2003 said:
My HTC U Ultra is definitely my last HTC device. Since the HTC HD2 every year had a new HTC, but with the current update policy I really lost the last bit of confidence.
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Same here. No more HTC ever. What a ****ty company.
Would it be possible someone could make an android pie ROM for the HTC u ultra?
Not according to this:
https://theleaker.com/htc-android-p-9-0-update/
If you read HTCs Twitter feed and FB page, they tell you that, Like other devs.. HTC provides updates for 2 years on all of their devices after release... The HTC 10 isnt getting P, but as the Ultra is only 17 months old, so the Ultra will be..
People just love bashing HTC, but there are 100s of 1000s of Ultras out there... Just because MKBHD or Flossy Carter dont like the Ultra.. doesnt mean the Ultra is finished
Unfortunately i am skeptic that we will get any further update for the ultra. Yes our phone is flagship and it is less than 2 years old and it is shame that htc will leave it to die but it has the same hardware as htc 10 inside. If they update u ultra they should also update htc 10 and they obviously do not want to spend resources to make snapdragon 820 and the second screen to work properly. It was clear when they updated us to oreo but did not include project treble that they do not plan further development. If they did they would make their life easier for android P by including it.
Frankly i am tired of playing this software update game with most android manufacturers. I am android user since the days of android 1.6 and have used devices (mostly flagship) by sony, lg and htc and despite the promised commitment of manufacturers to provide 2 years of major android version updates (which should include at least 2 versions above initial when released) for flagships this is rarely the case unfortunately. They use all kind of tricks like releasing deliberately with older version or trying to lie people that the new software will work worse with the hardware to avoid updates. When they need to take your money they are first to promise everything to buy their new phone but when you need support after that they are deaf. Long time ago when android had just basic features and manufacturers added many additional ones there was reason to go with certain manufacturer but now when android is fully developed platform i do not see reason to stick with anything different than google in future. Pixel 2/xl will be supported for 3 years with major android versions which means 3 versions above the initial. Moreover you receive security updates every month. Most probably with pixel 3 it will be the same. So yes i will use my u ultra for some more time but my next phone will definitely be google pixel. Too bad for htc - the u ultra has the best sound with headphones compared to my previous phones but today you simply can not afford to not provide current software for flagship device which is not even 2 years old.
Htc ultra
I have been happy with ultra photos sound and general smooth operation
It's disappointing that we won't get pie till q2 2019
But I am impressed with the photo quality and sound
Battery does go down with serious use but otherwise I am happy with it performance
Don't use 2nd screen much
Like the big phone now am sold on phablet
Still love the themes of HTC
May have to buy online or os next time as HTC don't sell
Each thru shops
We will not get android 9 at all. HTC dropped support for our phone despite it being just year and a half old. The only hope to get android 9 would be if custom ROM is developed.
I've contacted HTC about this, apparently ill get an answer from the correct department in the next few days. Not updating a year and a half old device would be atrocious and would for sure make this the last HTC device I purchase.
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We will not get android 9 at all. HTC dropped support for our phone despite it being just year and a half old. The only hope to get android 9 would be if custom ROM is developed.
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btw this isnt the case at all since there are some variants of the ultra that havent been upgraded to oreo yet and there are ones that have been upgraded very recently so basically that means that support for the ultra isnt complely dropped aatleast not yet
Jme369 said:
I've contacted HTC about this, apparently ill get an answer from the correct department in the next few days. Not updating a year and a half old device would be atrocious and would for sure make this the last HTC device I purchase.
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And what? Have you got a response from HTC?
I'm done with HTC devices . They doing the same mistakes as Microsoft did with there phone's. They didn't listen to there customers and Lumia line ( windows phone) went down. It will be the same situation with HTC. Wait and see
Jme369 said:
I've contacted HTC about this, apparently ill get an answer from the correct department in the next few days. Not updating a year and a half old device would be atrocious and would for sure make this the last HTC device I purchase.
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It's been 2 years since Google Pixel (XL) was released.
Unfortunately, this means no more major releases for these phones.
I hope the community would still be able to create some porting of next versions of Android, because the OG Pixel still rocks nowadays.
Too bad that a powerful phone like this one will only get security patches for only one year from now.
I still hope they give us 9.1
"No guaranteed Android version updates after" does not mean that there is no chance, if next Android versions don't require to much tinkering to be ported to the Pixel I think they will do it.
bafforosso said:
"No guaranteed Android version updates after" does not mean that there is no chance, if next Android versions don't require to much tinkering to be ported to the Pixel I think they will do it.
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I was thinking the same thing about "guaranteed." I found no compelling reason to move to Pixel 2. I still see nothing in Pixel 3 that makes me want to spend the money especially to guarantee bootloader unlock.
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I was thinking the same thing about "guaranteed." I found no compelling reason to move to Pixel 2. I still see nothing in Pixel 3 that makes me want to spend the money especially to guarantee bootloader unlock.
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I second that. Pixel is still kicking.
What's with the Treble thing? Do you think we could get future versions ported easily?
I purchased a Pixel second hand off eBay about 2 months ago, switch from a Samsung Galaxy S6 Active and I can say without a doubt. It out does the Galaxy without a problem. Though I miss the heartbeat monitor. It is sad to see that this powerful phone doesn't have any more Android version updates anymore but the community probably will be updating it more and more. My favorite thing about this phone I have to say is just the usability and ease or finding everything where it makes sense to find.
Keyword is "minimum" at the top. Google like Samsung and many other makers are only obligated to provide support for two years. That is all they are saying. Also, with Google having the Pixel /XL on Android P, do you really they will drop support with only a few makers with Pie? Other makers say only two year support. Most phone like this one has gotten two major Android os updates. Since this also is their first in house phone with full Google logo inside and out, I highly doubtful they will just drop support. Why even put out Android P on the pixel? They could stuck at 8.1 and not updated to P. They are keeping their phones out there viable. With most their testing of new OS on their in house phones, and it being HTC, which they now own half of, no way do I see them dropping support. Especially how close all three versions are. A few different drivers per phone, but highly used chipsets across the board. The Sailfish and Marlin still have more development than say Samsung flagships, lg flagships, and any other phones out there. Go look threw XDA. I got tired of waiting for root again on the s8 I sold that pos and got a pixel and pixel 2 xl. These phones are far from done. This pixel rooted on stock kernel still kills my old s8. Quad core vs octo core. Pixel quad smashes it.
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Keyword is "minimum" at the top. Google like Samsung and many other makers are only obligated to provide support for two years. That is all they are saying. Also, with Google having the Pixel /XL on Android P, do you really they will drop support with only a few makers with Pie? Other makers say only two year support. Most phone like this one has gotten two major Android os updates. Since this also is their first in house phone with full Google logo inside and out, I highly doubtful they will just drop support. Why even put out Android P on the pixel? They could stuck at 8.1 and not updated to P. They are keeping their phones out there viable. With most their testing of new OS on their in house phones, and it being HTC, which they now own half of, no way do I see them dropping support. Especially how close all three versions are. A few different drivers per phone, but highly used chipsets across the board. The Sailfish and Marlin still have more development than say Samsung flagships, lg flagships, and any other phones out there. Go look threw XDA. I got tired of waiting for root again on the s8 I sold that pos and got a pixel and pixel 2 xl. These phones are far from done. This pixel rooted on stock kernel still kills my old s8. Quad core vs octo core. Pixel quad smashes it.
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You can always install a Custom Rom like Lineage OS to get the newest Android when Google stops updating the phone...
maddvector said:
You can always install a Custom Rom like Lineage OS to get the newest Android when Google stops updating the phone...
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Oh for sure. Lineageos rocks. Got that on old s5. Oreo on a s5. Unreal. A lot of extra features. Really got that phone for a house phone now and works great.
is possible that they will do the 'same' thing? I mean, they give new update to 'slow down' the old devices, so the current user will feel need to upgrade
even they do, we still have custom rom, which always want make our device running more fast, rite?
TENN3R said:
It's been 2 years since Google Pixel (XL) was released.
Unfortunately, this means no more major releases for these phones.
I hope the community would still be able to create some porting of next versions of Android, because the OG Pixel still rocks nowadays.
Too bad that a powerful phone like this one will only get security patches for only one year from now.
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Until we stop actually getting updates, I wouldn't worry about it. And we'll probably know before hand when that will be. Plus with Pixel 3 out we're going to get some of the software, whether Google wants us to have it or not. Night Shot with the Pixel 3 camera on my original Pixel.
November updates have been released, and..... no updates for sailfish and marlin.
Factory Images
OTA Images
Booo!!:crying:
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November updates have been released, and..... no updates for sailfish and marlin
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Unfortunately I just saw it, I'm very disappointed, Google is slowly dropping support
Does anybody else had the image quality reduced on Google Photos?
Size on phone
Size stored on Google Photos
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Unfortunately I just saw it, I'm very disappointed, Google is slowly dropping support
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I doubt that. Probably an issue with the update for us.
Still rocking my OG pixel but tomorrow I am getting a battery replacement. Phone works great but watching the battery level is like watching the gas gauge on a race car... no desire to upgrade as everything else works great.
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November updates have been released, and..... no updates for sailfish and marlin.
Factory Images
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Booo!!:crying:
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Unfortunately I just saw it, I'm very disappointed, Google is slowly dropping support
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Until they announce they do drop sailfish Pixel, I won't worry.
Google confirms it's still working on the November update for 2016 Pixels
I have Nexus 5x with 4gigs of RAM as my second phone and it was officially updated up to 8.1. And also it is quite suitable for the pixel2 ROM port with almost all the features working without any problems. I don't see why Pixel 1 can be less capable to be updated in future at least two android versions up
This phone is amazing still now we have offical night shot I am do happy
When I was considering buying a Oneplus 1+8 pro I was being told by YT influencers and media that if you like clean and good OS with frequent updates and longterm support that Oneplus is the way to go.
It has now been over 4 months since last update and AFAIK nothing is happening on that matter.
We have OB2 which is nowhere near being ready for daily driver. Even when it is released as stable I bet it will be even worse as what the current 10 is.
We have updates coming out for the 7 and Nord series but nothing for the 8.
If somebody wants to claim that there is nothing to update I will call them idiots. This OS is nowhere near to the level of the OSs I had on my previous Samsung and Apple phones. There are all sorts of issues which are not being addresed by Oneplus.
Am I the only one having a problem with that fact?
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There are monthly updates, we have to wait for android 11 like everyone else.
Use Oxygen updater or look here: https://www.androidauthority.com/oneplus-8-pro-update-1108368/
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It has now been over 4 months since last update and AFAIK nothing is happening on that matter.
We have OB2 which is nowhere near being ready for daily driver. Even when it is released as stable I bet it will be even worse as what the current 10 is.
We have updates coming out for the 7 and Nord series but nothing for the 8.
If somebody wants to claim that there is nothing to update I will call them idiots. This OS is nowhere near to the level of the OSs I had on my previous Samsung and Apple phones. There are all sorts of issues which are not being addresed by Oneplus.
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1st - OB2 is like 3 weeks old, not 4 months. Hope you don't expect Stable A11 days after Pixels.
2nd - if you believe YT influencers, then I wish you good luck.
3rd - security updates are spot on.
4th - I use OB2 since the release day and have no complains. Eventually high battery use of Google Play Store app. Nothing crazy.
]1st - I was referring to stable A10. Latest update was released Aug 15, 2020. So not 4 months but 2. Still long time ago.
2nd -I cannot establish my own opinion since I have no chance to see these phones in person before purchase. Also this is nowadays normal and best way to buy stuff.
3rd - No they are not. The latest stable version is on August security patch. We are now in the middle of October. Even Samsung is pushing that as we speak.
4th - I use my phone for work so no I will not run beta SW on it.
Samsung are better with security updates, but oneplus will get android 11 first
No complaints with 8 Pro updates this year...
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When I was considering buying a Oneplus 1+8 pro I was being told by YT influencers and media that if you like clean and good OS with frequent updates and longterm support that Oneplus is the way to go.
It has now been over 4 months since last update and AFAIK nothing is happening on that matter.
We have OB2 which is nowhere near being ready for daily driver. Even when it is released as stable I bet it will be even worse as what the current 10 is.
We have updates coming out for the 7 and Nord series but nothing for the 8.
If somebody wants to claim that there is nothing to update I will call them idiots. This OS is nowhere near to the level of the OSs I had on my previous Samsung and Apple phones. There are all sorts of issues which are not being addresed by Oneplus.
Am I the only one having a problem with that fact?
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First off. Don't listen to YouTubers, and influencers, I think I would poke someone in the eye of they told me that's what they did for a job..
OnePlus absolutely smashes the other OEM's in regards to updates, Huawei, old HTC, Sammy, LG, Sony, sorry but none of them come close .
Pixel? Sure that's the source, but the shortcomings Vs pixel on the OnePlus, it makes up for with a bigger battery and IMHO a better Dev community and a course matched beta program.
You can't go wrong with OnePlus tbh.
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First off. Don't listen to YouTubers, and influencers, I think I would poke someone in the eye of they told me that's what they did for a job..
OnePlus absolutely smashes the other OEM's in regards to updates, Huawei, old HTC, Sammy, LG, Sony, sorry but none of them come close .
Pixel? Sure that's the source, but the shortcomings Vs pixel on the OnePlus, it makes up for with a bigger battery and IMHO a better Dev community and a course matched beta program.
You can't go wrong with OnePlus tbh.
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Based on this report your claims have no foundations to stand on. Oneplus released 12 updates since the phone launched but most of them were minor updates and fixed nothing. Only one major update. I would not classify that in the "smashing other OEMs" category.
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Based on this report your claims have no foundations to stand on. Oneplus released 12 updates since the phone launched but most of them were minor updates and fixed nothing. Only one major update. I would not classify that in the "smashing other OEMs" category.
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12 updates in 6 months is pretty good stats. Small or not. I have had all other brands and came back to OnePlus (I had the 6T as well). Even stock, it is a great OS. But, everyone has their own opinion.
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Based on this report your claims have no foundations to stand on. Oneplus released 12 updates since the phone launched but most of them were minor updates and fixed nothing. Only one major update. I would not classify that in the "smashing other OEMs" category.
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No foundations? Perhaps the fact that OnePlus actually release stable OS' in a timely manner with very little need to change anything, OOS is an extremely stable and fast skin for Android..very light too.
Security update comes out OnePlus gets it... new OS in development, we get it early.....to what OEM are you referring?
Huawei does not offer this speed nor does it offer a beta program like this, Samsung didn't either if memory serves, Sony was pitiful and splintered (as was Huawei (due to device variants /regions) LG (do people still buy these types of phones? Motorola (budget phone not in the same league)
I've had a lot of phones so I have some experience here, this is a public forum, you can take my advice or you can move on, what I won't do is try to convince you against something you appear to have an agenda towards, personally I can say without prejudice or bias that the OnePlus 8 pro is the best phone on the market right now, very few people would argue that point.
Updates are on point, end of story.
A good OEM won't release huge updates because they have nothing to fix, meaning it was done right the first time, a bad OEM will do the opposite, like Samsung releasing a £1500 phone with a camera that won't focus.
Oh wow just saw your end of post, you compared an android device to apple.
Oh dear.
Tell me can you Bluetooth files yet? Is apple still crippling it's OS due to an "update" ?
Don't compare any android device to apple you'll get very little sympathy here in that regard.
Samsung? Really? Exynos processor in the non US variants? And you're supporting them? Anyone who likes android or has an ounce of respect for themselves would boycott them and sign the petition to get Snapdragon in all their phones..
I wouldn't swap my OnePlus if you offered me both the iPhone XS and the ultra.
Lastly I and the absolute vast majority of people have not and do not have any issue with our OnePlus phone.
Fastest phone out not.
Battery life? I get 10 hours SOT consistently, even when gaming.
What issues are you referring to? If it's green tint (see above)