I bought a new note 10.1 yesterday as an upgrade from tab 10.1 , but i'm some what confused with the detailed specs of the screen sensitivity on the web some says it recognizes only 256 pressure level (like original note) and others say it supports 1024 pressure level (like note 2), so which one is correct and does pressure senstivity depend on the spen or the digitizer .
Thanks and regards
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hoss_n2 said:
I bought a new note 10.1 yesterday as an upgrade from tab 10.1 , but i'm some what confused with the detailed specs of the screen sensitivity on the web some says it recognizes only 256 pressure level (like original note) and others say it supports 1024 pressure level (like note 2), so which one is correct and does pressure senstivity depend on the spen or the digitizer .
Thanks and regards
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Can it be that those who are pro apple or anti samsung does not read the full reviews?
Quote uk.hardware.info "A Note is only a Note if you can take notes on it. That's why Samsung has included a little pen, that can be stored in the case just like last year's Galaxy Note smartphone. When you take out the pen, a side bar appears with pen-specific shortcuts.
The S pen is much more sensitive according to Samsung. The pressure sensitivity has been increased from 256 to 1,024 levels, which makes using it even smoother."
Personally, after having done a little number crunching, I don't think it's really all too far fetched to imagine the Note 3 having a 6.3" screen, assuming certain things happen. Here's my thinking:
The physical dimensions of the current Note 2 (not the screen) are 151mm tall by 80.5mm wide, which yields a hypotenuse of ~173.3mm.
A ~6.3" (160mm diag) 16:9 ratio screen would be about 139.5mm tall by ~78.4mm wide, which can just about squeeze into the current body's form factor, if you remove the physical buttons and go with a ~1mm bezel on the sides (compared to the current ~5.7mm bezel).
A ~1mm bezel is insane, and honestly I doubt it's a realistic expectation. However, if the Note 3 returns to the original Note's width of ~83mm, that would make room for a ~2.3mm bezel on a 6.3" screen. That's still insanely thin, but maybe just about doable.
Now, here's another thing to consider: Screen Resolution.
As it currently stands, it's much easier to make a higher resolution LCD display than an AMOLED display (which is why our 5.55" AMOLED displays are only 720p when there are 5" 1080p LCD's). It's currently difficult for AMOLED to match those levels of pixel density before running into quality issues like we've seen in previous AMOLED generations. That's to be expected; AMOLED technology is still relatively new compared to LCD, so we're still working on perfecting it.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think we've yet seen an RGB (not PenTile) AMOLED display break the 300ppi barrier yet. So far, the Note 2's display has the highest RGB pixel density that we've ever seen yet (again, the key here is RGB, not PenTile).
If the Note 3 has a 6.3" screen, and if indeed it's going to be 1080p, then that would mean a pixel density of ~350ppi. I believe that jumping from the current ~265ppi (RGB) to ~350ppi (RBG) is incredibly significant, and possibly unrealistic actually... So this, to me, suggests one of two likely possibilities:
A.) A 6.3" 1080p PenTile display.
or
B.) An RGB (using the current sub-pixel layout in the Note 2) display, but at lower than 1080p resolution; perhaps something like 1600x900 instead.
Option B would yield a ~291ppi density, and seems like a realistic and reasonable improvement from the current generation.
Either option is seems like a reasonable possibility, however, in my personal opinion, I would bet that the 1080p PenTile option seems more likely.
So, to sum everything up, here's what I would predict for the Note 3 for dimensions and screen:
Chassis:
151 - 155 mm Height
83 - 85 mm Width
8 - 10 mm Depth
Buttonless/Full touch screen design
Screen:
6.3" (160mm) Diagonal, 16:9
1080p PenTile SAMOLED (More likely)
or
1600x900 RGB SAMOLED (Less likely)
maybe
1080p RGB SAMOLED (Least likely, but who knows!)
I know a lot of this may have been boring, but I hope it was informative, and perhaps brings some more clarity to the rumors that have been floating around.
Let me know your thoughts!
My thoughts are there is already a thread about this.
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i would really want a non pentile screen and a 1080p screen...
Nice thorough post.
I personally won't buy a larger form factor. So, whatever the max screen size is within the current physical dimension is what it should be.
If the form factor goes larger I might as well buy a 7" tablet.
Most said that the Note 2 size was too large.
After, was considered a normal phone size for them.
Note 3, might have the same procedure.
My thoughts are that if it actually turns out to be 6.3" then they better call it 'Galaxy tab mini'
The note 2's screen at first was a bit of a handful but I've gotten used to it now I've had it for a few months but 6.3".....that's a bit over the top in my opinion.
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If the display isn't downgrade from rgb, and is close to 6inches without much dimensions bigger then i will upgrade to it.
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The problem with a 6.3" device, IMO, would be:
Should one hold it like a phone (one-handed) or like a tablet (two-handed)?
I guess the design of the device should hold the answer (bevel and of course dimensions).
I believe this is yet again a wait-and-see moment for Samsung. When the original Note was launched, everyone had their comments. But the sales proved, one way or another, that "phablet" is feasible. 5.3" isn't really too big! Now we stretched it to 5.5" and the sales are now even stronger! So if they can find a way to make the user experience feasible for a 6.3" phone-tablet hybrid (or whatever marketing they employ for that device), then who's to say now that it's good or not?
I'm happy with my 5.5" Note II. If the Note III proves to be successful at 6.3", that's a nice feat. But I'm sticking to my Note II (for the next two years!)
I'd prefer if Samsung stuck with physical buttons as soft keys on screen take up a lot of real estate. It would be a waste to have a large screen that has a 1/2" row permanently used by buttons.
Not to mention that soft keys get in the way of gaming and are often inadvertently pressed.
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Simple..
Penta-Core Processor
3 Gigabyte of RAM
..
Profit!
I don't know why but I want it..
EP2008 said:
I'd prefer if Samsung stuck with physical buttons as soft keys on screen take up a lot of real estate. It would be a waste to have a large screen that has a 1/2" row permanently used by buttons.
Not to mention that soft keys get in the way of gaming and are often inadvertently pressed.
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My thoughts are there is already a thread about this.
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I respectfully disagree. Whereas the other thread talking about the Note III merely links to an outside source regarding potential screen size, and then asks the simple "Will you buy it?" question, my thread here, though on a related topic, goes into much greater detail behind the speculations for the Note III, and encourages a much broader discussion about the screen technology in particular.
If Samsung does go with a 6.3" screen design for the Note III, I hope that they finally stop using the Phone UI across the whole platform and instead go with something more like the Phablet UI (like on the Nexus 7). Maybe even incorporate certain PA features like per-app-density and per-app-layout etc.
Gof fig they would want to make it bigger. :silly: I like the 5.5 and would love to see them work bettering the guts of the phone. More power!!!!!!!!!
EP2008 said:
I'd prefer if Samsung stuck with physical buttons as soft keys on screen take up a lot of real estate. It would be a waste to have a large screen that has a 1/2" row permanently used by buttons.
Not to mention that soft keys get in the way of gaming and are often inadvertently pressed.
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great
I like idea of a bigger screen, but remember the Note 1 was uncomfortable to hold (in one hand) for me. Although the Note 2 was only slightly narrower it was a massive difference and I have never had issues holding it in one hand. The slight curvature change also helped here. 6" might be my comfort limit
No thanks
Jade Eyed Wolf said:
So, to sum everything up, here's what I would predict for the Note 3 for dimensions and screen:
Chassis:
151 - 155 mm Height
83 - 85 mm Width
8 - 10 mm Depth
Buttonless/Full touch screen design
Screen:
6.3" (160mm) Diagonal, 16:9
1080p PenTile SAMOLED (More likely)
or
1600x900 RGB SAMOLED (Less likely)
maybe
1080p RGB SAMOLED (Least likely, but who knows!)
I know a lot of this may have been boring, but I hope it was informative, and perhaps brings some more clarity to the rumors that have been floating around.
Let me know your thoughts!
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Firstly IMHO I think they would keep their button layout. They are trying to make their product lineup using standard elements.
Secondly, I doubt that they would go back to pentile AMOLED. they have faced too much heat with that piece of tech. And also doing 1080p on a non-pentile AMOLED is way tough for a new tech like it is. So lower res is the way they'll go.
Other than that I agree with your predictions.
The phone is already too big for most people.. would be crazy if they make the phone any bigger.
It looks like there might be a better Note 3 coming out with confirmed variants of a flexible display and maybe water resistant.
Will the Galaxy F line here be better than the Note 3?
-Metal case
-16mp camera w/ optical image stabilization
-octa-core processor
What makes you think it'll be a Note vs. another line of Samsung's standard phones?
According to ETNews, the so-called Galaxy F could feature cutting-edge hardware specifications and materials that trump those in its current portfolio. Key among the rumored details are an octa-core processor, a 16-megapixel camera with optical image stabilization, and a metal case. This design could see Samsung pushing further into the curved display technology.It's a little early to have buyer's remorse over the N3 when nothing material has been leaked as to what Samsung's working on next. They haven't even gotten the N10.1-2014 to market yet and that's already been formally announced. And if the Galaxy F (if it's real) doesn't have "Note" features and at least a 5.7" display I could care less about how "shiny" it is.
BarryH_GEG said:
What makes you think it'll be a Note vs. another line of Samsung's standard phones?
According to ETNews, the so-called Galaxy F could feature cutting-edge hardware specifications and materials that trump those in its current portfolio. Key among the rumored details are an octa-core processor, a 16-megapixel camera with optical image stabilization, and a metal case. This design could see Samsung pushing further into the curved display technology.It's a little early to have buyer's remorse over the N3 when nothing material has been leaked as to what Samsung's working on next. They haven't even gotten the N10.1-2014 to market yet and that's already been formally announced. And if the Galaxy F (if it's real) doesn't have "Note" features and at least a 5.7" display I could care less about how "shiny" it is.
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I agree about the shiny and screen size part. I know that it won't be an official "Note" series phone but just mentioning it open-endendly for those like myself that are still contemplating upgrading to the Note 3 vs waiting for a better phone only months later.
Also, maybe someone has tripped across more information about it that we'd be interested in
Since the Tab S now have AMOLED, do you think the 2015 edition of Note 10.1 will have the same display as the one on Tab S?
Notes are creation and productivity devices and most apps in those categories use light backgrounds. The S' suck battery life wise on light colors. So unless Samsung's going to greatly increase the weight and thickness by adding a much larger battery (to get the same results as LCD) the answer's probably no.
Also, inductive displays are complicated to build in comparison to traditional conductive displays. Who knows if AMOLED in the sizes we're discussing would be good candidates for use in an inductive display.
Traditional (Conductive)
Inductive (Wacom, etc.)
Personally I'd rather have a thinner lighter Note '15 with better battery life and an LCD display rather than giving that up for AMOLED. LCD's better at white production and I'm a big productivity user.
Hello, do you have some information about the digitizer. Is it still wacom? And why is the resolution of the digitizer? (More or less than the 1440p?)
The pen with its pressure sensitivity would make the difference for me.
Samsung owns 10% of Wacom and the S Pen looks to be the same as before - so Note 4 definitely uses Wacom.
I wonder if the resolution will match the screen, I suppose it should, we'll see. Anyway, I wouldn't worry. I have Note 10.1 and writing on it is excellent. Note 4 will be better.
Sup
I own a Wacom Intuous Touch 5
Writing on the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 feels the same.
Both have 2048 levels of pressure.
Both have palm rejection.
http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxynote4/note4_specs.html
S Pen
15g, Hovering 15mm, Pressure level 2,048
Actually I think the Wacom tablet has more tilt recognition. Don't feel like turning this on and testing it out, but just going off memory, they seem nearly the same.
http://www.wacom.com/en/us/creative/intuos-pro-s