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Google Maps Update ... still tainted?

Many forum posts were devoted to the Google Maps update which included bicycle navigation, under claims that it broke many features including spoken navigation. With this, I didn't install.
However, not installing brings a reminder every single day (thank goodness I mute the phone before going to sleep).
Does anyone know if updating Google Maps is still a bad idea?

I must have missed those threads.
I haven't had or read of any GMM issues since the bicycle maps were added.
EDIT: I've been sticking to the Incredible sections of the various android forums though, so maybe it was another phone that had issues?

Its this one!!!
Humpa said:
I must have missed those threads.
I haven't had or read of any GMM issues since the bicycle maps were added.
EDIT: I've been sticking to the Incredible sections of the various android forums though, so maybe it was another phone that had issues?
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Ummm ... its this thread actually (a mod consolidated some time ago); but I will take it that your Incredible does not suffer from the items listed at the top of this thread?

I'll go look for that thread and take a look.
But I'm a "show me" kind of person, so I just Navigated to somewhere and the nice lady started telling me where to go.

What is the thread you are referring to? This thread is only a couple of hours old and isn't consolidated?
... I seem to be missing something.

Sorry ... here you go
I am super embarrased. I prefer to go to IncredibleForum, but I always fall back on my old home of XDA (recently coming from a tilt). The thread I referred to was on IncredibleForum
http://www.incredibleforum.com/forum/htc-incredible-apps/984-dont-download-update-google-maps.html
but PRIMARILY THIS ONE
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/05/11/google-maps-4-2-update-breaking-navigation/
Any thoughts are appreciated!

ok, here's the skinny.
In both of those threads there is NO ONE with any sort of issue except the OP on that one thread (suzieq or whoever). And her problem seems coincidental and I'm sure would be fixed with a factory reset.
I will admit that I've been slacking and haven't been to incredibleforums in a couple of weeks (I forgot about them because they're not in my incredible bookmarks for some reason). But had not previously read any issues related to GMM and the latest updates.

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Humpa said:
In both of those threads there is NO ONE with any sort of issue except the OP on that one thread (suzieq or whoever). And her problem seems coincidental and I'm sure would be fixed with a factory reset.
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Here is the main article on Droid Life
http://www.droid-life.com/2010/05/11/google-maps-4-2-update-breaking-navigation/

Yeah, I read that.
No one in there posting comments, not even the author, have any issues ... lol
The author does mention having an issue with pinch to zoom.
The only thing they say is something about comments on the Market.
There are no issues with GMM that should stop any of us from updating. Update the darn thing already.

[Q] Can we use softkey backlight for notifications?

I see it has been done for the international version I9000, but our buttons are different. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=772672
I think it would be great if the home key backlight pulsed on notification.
Anyone know how to implement something like this?
A small led pulsing would go a long way toward saving my precious battery life, instead of periodically turning the screen on to check for new messages.

Yes. There is backlight notification mod for our phone. However, I tried several versions(10-32seconds) and could not get the backlight to turn off until I cleared the notification. I believe it only works with certain kernels and ROMs.
It can be found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=826278

I have that installed, it just keeps the lights on longer for the softkey buttons.
What I would like to see is one of the softkeys like home pulse with the screen off when a new notification arrives, like the nexus one trackball notifications.
Anyone?

birdman's "barebones" kernel in this very forum supports backlight notifications
I have a handful of kernels on rom manager that support bln also
please stop posting questions in the dev forums!!!

Where would you suggest the question be posted. It's not a general question and it's not a theme/app...maybe BLN is now an accessory?
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App

Easy there snappy dev guy, it was just a question. I appreciate your input and rom since im running it, but not the attitude.

attitude?
easy there noob with lack of search fu
development != questions

How about instead of posting questions that are already answered... you search. Much easier for everyone else to deal with.

theformula said:
Easy there snappy dev guy, it was just a question. I appreciate your input and rom since im running it, but not the attitude.
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What is this "attitude" crap? You're the one breaking the rules of the forum. Don't ***** when people point this out.
Sent from my Voodoo-powered Fascinate with XDA

hop on rom manager and look under jt1334 in the downloads section..

Maybe if the search function here worked I would have found the answer to my question. I obviously dont post much so I seem to know how to be resourceful.
In this case I thought we could all benefit in getting some sort of proper notification system working on the Fascinate. The kernel mod seems to light up all the keys then go out 30 seconds later. I was wondering if it was possible to just get the "home" button to pulse like it did on my nexus one (obviously not in color).
Sorry I am not a dev, I have a life outside of android, windows mobile, and IOS, but I am definately not a noob.
Anyway its been nice chatting with all of you open minded developers working on this open platform. Mods please close this thread as it seems the developers just want to be rockstars in their own little threads, and scream "search!!!" and "noob" in all the others.
Thanks for all your help...

Don't bite the hand that feeds...
XDA is a Developers forum - not a tech support forum. There are dozens of other android forums on the Internet for that. The developers here share their work for free here and grow tired of answering the same questions over and over. The Development Forum is getting so overrun with non-development threads that it's hard to find ROM, Kernel, and App releases.
EDIT: In fact it's grown so bad that some developers aren't even releasing there work here anymore. That is why you received a "lecture".

I dont think I bit any hand, I said I appreciated the work jt did on the clean rom, and in fact I am using it right now. I think a lot of these guys on the forum are brilliant and I dont generally ask for help or any type of hand holding. Im a big boy with a job and I take chances, if I kill a phone so be it, thats why I have insurance and a warranty.
I just wanted to start a discussion and see if an idea of mine was feasable. I must have asked the wrong question, at the wrong time, in the wrong forum. -Sorry guys!
Man, and I thought the ios guys were douchebags, I guess douchebagginess is carrier dependent here since I never had a problem in the Nexus One forums. Go Verizon!

theformula said:
I dont think I bit any hand, I said I appreciated the work jt did on the clean rom, and in fact I am using it right now. I think a lot of these guys on the forum are brilliant and I dont generally ask for help or any type of hand holding. Im a big boy with a job and I take chances, if I kill a phone so be it, thats why I have insurance and a warranty.
I just wanted to start a discussion and see if an idea of mine was feasable. I must have asked the wrong question, at the wrong time, in the wrong forum. -Sorry guys!
Man, and I thought the ios guys were douchebags, I guess douchebagginess is carrier dependent here since I never had a problem in the Nexus One forums. Go Verizon!
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"Sorry guys" --- then you go about calling us douchbags? or did i read this wrong? There is a little X button towards the top right of the screen.... press it.

I didnt call you anything, but this is getting childish. Someone delete this thread please.

blah........

There seems to be some confusion here so allow me to answer the question and end the cat fight in one shot. There are in fact TWO different backlight mods for the Fascinate. The one you currently have is the Extended Softkey Backlights, which simply extends the amount of time your softkeys stay lit during normal operation. There is also a mod called Backlight Notifications, which does exactly what you are asking for. It is implemented in jt1134's kernels, amongst others.
As for posting location, the others are correct that this question should have been posted in general, not dev. There was just a major post from the mods specifically about this issue.
http://www.xda-developers.com/announcements/a-reminder-from-the-xda-moderator-team/
Sent from my SCH-I500 using XDA App

Thank you for taking the time to clear things up gardndj, will definately check out the backlight notification mod.

Now that this is in the right place, I should note that you don't want the standalone BLN mod, which is i9000-only. You need one of jt1134's kernels with BLN built in, which are only available on ROM manager.
Sent from my Voodoo-powered Fascinate with XDA

Coming from HD2 section.

Hi,
Just want to say that im likely coming from HD2 section soon as im getting a GS2.
I'm just a bit gutted as this section doest seem as organized as HD2 section, ie there doesn't seem to be a dating convention (or at least non enforced) so topics seem random.
What I like about HD2 section is that for the most part most devs/cooks etc release to same standard naming rules, ie [date].[ROM/KERNEL].[Rom Title/Version.[Etc].
These standards make things much more orgnized overall and looking at this section sort of brings me back to when I was using the HTC Universal forum
I'm sure I will eventually find my way and learn to get used to going back to less standards, mostly because im sooo looking forward to getting the GS2 so everything else is second

Waaa? Trying checking again, it got everything you stated. =.=
Unless I'm illiterate...
$1 gets you a reply

GRiM-UK said:
What I like about HD2 section is that for the most part most devs/cooks etc release to same standard naming rules, ie [date].[ROM/KERNEL].[Rom Title/Version.[Etc]
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We all had a vote some time ago and voted against those, sorry...

Kailkti said:
Waaa? Trying checking again, it got everything you stated. =.=
Unless I'm illiterate...
$1 gets you a reply
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Then I guess your illiterate.
peachpuff said:
We all had a vote some time ago and voted against those, sorry...
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That's a shame.
Cant see why it was voted against tbh.
2 good things about the HD2 forum is 1) Its huge amount of dedicated developer following and 2) Its organization. Even though I visit the forum daily so know which topics are new/updated its nice to see a standard topic title naming convention with date/type/title, That way you can see clearly from browse page which are updated topics with regards to builds instead of dates/titles been in random sequence.
Either way I'll have to learn to adapt back to this random naming as GS2 will be my daily device soon. However I wont miss my HD2 simply because it wont be going anywhere, I will still be using it to try new roms and also as a great backup.

I also came from the HD2 section and finding the GS2 section a bit of a maze, but all is well ) I'm hoping this GS2 will give me as much play as my HD2's did.. still have them, one cracked screen and one that the digitizer is going out on, the screen will stop responding until I press the End button twice.
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HoustonsBirdman said:
I also came from the HD2 section and finding the GS2 section a bit of a maze, but all is well ) I'm hoping this GS2 will give me as much play as my HD2's did.. still have them, one cracked screen and one that the digitizer is going out on, the screen will stop responding until I press the End button twice.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA App
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Well im gunna be honest here, I actually have a iPhone 4S aswell atm but I just cant get used to such a mall screen and although the OS is quite good (as far as stability, ease of use) I just cant get used to having my fecking hand held every step of way and also the feeling of having them tied behind my back at most points. I bought it because I was given it at such a great price that I would have no problem getting rid once I was bored (approx 3 weeks) and then getting my only viable HD2 replacement (hardware wise compared to price). Before the GS2 I just didnt really see any reason to get new device since HD2 had basically (or in allot of cases better) hardware then new native Android devices.
Just made my mind up now and getting rid of the iPhone, keeping my HD2 and having GS2 as main device.
PS. Just want to add, I'm also a Galaxy Tab 7 user and that forum also (for the most part) keeps to a standard way of titling topics so its going to be hard to getting used to the dev sections here.

GRiM-UK said:
Hi,
Just want to say that im likely coming from HD2 section soon as im getting a GS2.
I'm just a bit gutted as this section doest seem as organized as HD2 section, ie there doesn't seem to be a dating convention (or at least non enforced) so topics seem random.
Unfortunately many posters will not follow the rules and post questions in the wrong section .
We also have a greater share of idiotic repeat posts fails to use search posters .
Roms are labelled but they are often updated frequently within that thread and even have kernel changes .
Not saying i disagree with your viewpoint but suggest you contact the mods re your suggestion .
Noobs do find it hard to navigate .
jje
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Almost all of our threads have a [ROM] or [KERNEL] or [KITCHEN] or [GUIDE] tag.
The initial perusal might be somewhat daunting. Once you understand Samsung's ROM releasing conventions, you'll understand why we don't insist on having each thread tagged with a date. I'd recommend reading the first 3 posts of Intratech's thread to give you a start. The series of numbers/letters found in the title of most [ROM] threads is essentially our dating convention (ie XWKK5).
Then maybe sort the forum by the "Stats" column to see what's popular and go from there.

GRiM-UK said:
That's a shame.
Cant see why it was voted against tbh.
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That was a joke, we have a sense of humor here in the gs2 section
crachel summed it up pretty nicely.

GRiM-UK said:
Well im gunna be honest here, I actually have a iPhone 4S aswell atm but I just cant get used to such a mall screen and although the OS is quite good (as far as stability, ease of use) I just cant get used to having my fecking hand held every step of way and also the feeling of having them tied behind my back at most points. I bought it because I was given it at such a great price that I would have no problem getting rid once I was bored (approx 3 weeks) and then getting my only viable HD2 replacement (hardware wise compared to price). Before the GS2 I just didnt really see any reason to get new device since HD2 had basically (or in allot of cases better) hardware then new native Android devices.
Just made my mind up now and getting rid of the iPhone, keeping my HD2 and having GS2 as main device.
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Hey GRiM-UK, if you're coming from the HD2 and have used Hyperdroid, we've got pongster and doctorcete working their magic here yet again. It evolved into something different considering ROMs here are mostly based on stock (Some AOSP, MIUI and CM also) because of proprietary drivers which source isn't always available for sadly...
It does take some getting used to, as I do agree the HD2 forums were easier to understand (And less noobish to me), but you know... Sometimes you have to move on. haha. I mostly read the general page and the original android page, but the decent information a tad all over the place... So good luck!

crachel said:
Almost all of our threads have a [ROM] or [KERNEL] or [KITCHEN] or [GUIDE] tag.
The initial perusal might be somewhat daunting. Once you understand Samsung's ROM releasing conventions, you'll understand why we don't insist on having each thread tagged with a date. I'd recommend reading the first 3 posts of Intratech's thread to give you a start. The series of numbers/letters found in the title of most [ROM] threads is essentially our dating convention (ie XWKK5).
Then maybe sort the forum by the "Stats" column to see what's popular and go from there.
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I think you misunderstand, Im very familiar with what a Rom and Kernel is and their tags etc and am not a n00b who gets confused.
I'm simply saying that it really benefits the forum when each release has a date tag at beginning of topic title instead of in random position or not at all. It means that all dates are in same line and each release is easily distinguishable by build date an you can check for updates at a glance and not rely on remembering all the version numbers.
Its a really small thing that makes a huge difference, Ill probably end up getting used to not having them but atm its really hard adjusting. The HD2 section is just far superior in organization imho.
For example checkout the HD2 NAND section compare to the Dev sectiosn here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=928
Please don't think I'm complaining or don't appreciate the work in this section, I'm just a bit disappointed that XDA or section mods hasn't tried to bring the convention to other forums, Guess I just assumed others were same by now.
I guess this will all change when XDA finally starts its release database.

welcome to the SGS2 section my friend!
Its quite different over here as one of the rules of being in the SGS2 section is we must deal with grumpy and abusive coders, who are to busy yelling and abusing than to actually get on working with the code!
You'll soon meet codeworkx soon enough....you lucky devil you....

Suggestion: Dead ROM Section

The title says it all really.
There are loads of ROM threads that are dead and obviously so that still get bumped to the top for one reason or another.
There have been a lot of ROMs being pushed out lately and only in an initial release as the DEV immediately moved on to something else leaving the ROM\thread basically dead only to be bumped over and over. Then you have the others where the DEV just vanishes leaving the threads to again be bumped over and over.
Could these threads be moved to a DEAD section where they are still accessible is some one wanted to flash or even try to continue the work that was started? This would free up the DEV section of clutter and not push the currently viable and supported ROMs down the list.
Also if a ROM is in the DEAD section it would be more noticeable this it is dead and don't bump it for an update.
Just a suggestion and my 2c.

If you think about it, there are around 50+ pages to search through. The amount of Roms still being worked on is roughly 2-3 pages.. so if you want a 45 page dead section.. by all means, go ahead and search for days. If you're looking for a Rom you know the name of and Devs name, use the search bar at the top. Narrow your search by a good amount. Its unnecessary but start a petition if you desire. I'm sure you could get a decent following and be heard by a senior mod or some major contributor.

ItsLasher said:
The title says it all really.
There are loads of ROM threads that are dead and obviously so that still get bumped to the top for one reason or another.
There have been a lot of ROMs being pushed out lately and only in an initial release as the DEV immediately moved on to something else leaving the ROM\thread basically dead only to be bumped over and over. Then you have the others where the DEV just vanishes leaving the threads to again be bumped over and over.
Could these threads be moved to a DEAD section where they are still accessible is some one wanted to flash or even try to continue the work that was started? This would free up the DEV section of clutter and not push the currently viable and supported ROMs down the list.
Also if a ROM is in the DEAD section it would be more noticeable this it is dead and don't bump it for an update.
Just a suggestion and my 2c.
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I think this would discourage a dev from coming back to a ROM months or years later. Its pretty easy to tell what ROMs are active and which are not. Be a shame to see Myn's Warm 2.2 in a section like that. One of the greatest ROMs ever, swap back radios and its still one of the best. But then again, for some reason people do act like its too much to search and read a little.
"Hey, that's not a bug, that's a feature!" Linus Torvalds, 2001

This is a horrible idea! Just like Jamie said, is not that hard to tell what ROM is dead and what ROM is still active.
BUT playing devil's advocate, let's just say we DO get a "dead ROM" section.......who's going to set the time limit on a ROM? Do we say is dead after a couple of weeks of it not being active? Do we base this decision on how long is been for updates?
IF this idea actually becomes reality, what's next? A "POPULAR ROM" section and a "NOT POPULAR" section? I think if is not broken, don't mess with it! BUT who knows, crazier stuff have happened on XDA.

this idea obviously came from someone who does nothing but flash roms and gave no real thought to this. how about this for an idea instead: how about you not be allowed to re release an old rom that has not been updated or improved by starting a new thread for it? why wouldn't you just keep the old thread in place and just change the name of your thread title to reflect that it's the same exact old ROM? are you really so desperate for some notoriety and xda acceptance? that's right I said it.
ridiculous.
What did the five fingers say to the face? Sa la ppa.

No going to happen guys, if a rom goes unsupported, either the community picks up the effort or it drops down never to be seen again.
If people are bumping dead roms with stupid posts, report it and it will be dealt with, simple :good:
I'm going to close this as I don't really see any need to keep it open

Rom developers (some suggestions)

Hello to all that are interested.
I am making this topic just as a user with some pointers to developers. I have been in this xda community(or at least following it) for the past 3-4 years. My suggestions aren't I believe too much to ask for as it is things that were happening in the past all the time. I am talking about the good old days when the first galaxy was released and the development behind that phone was phenomenal. XDA community was bringing out roms for it on a daily basis.
Just to get specific before everyone starts flaming me. I am not complaining about the few roms available for the i9500(its not even been a month since its release), I am here to tell you things that used to impress me when downloading new roms in the past.
These things included themes, I mean every time I would download a new rom my phone would not only get a performance boost(battery as well) but it would look completely different to the previous one. I remember things like changing toggle colours (eg blue) or changing the dialer etc. Everything had very different icons all themed in 1 specific colour. Then obviously you would find features that we take for granted now but at the time were epic(eg, CRT animation when pressing lock screen button). Another thing that really impressed me at the time was when the top part of the screen was altered to completely black so it would look like the screen extended.
I am not asking for anyone to do any of these things. I am clearly just explaining one aspect that I believe has been forgotten in this community (or I have not looked in the right place). Anw, I have only seen 1 dev do some theming think it was the OMEGA team, but what I am wondering is if it would be difficult to put that in the AROMA installer as well as an option?
Also 1 last thing. Please do not flame this post. I have placed it in the developer section as I believe it was the correct place to put it. If not can a mod just move it to the appropriate section rather than delete it please.(Thank you).
If there is something other people think should be included please feel free to respond this is not a thread for things that must be done its just an idea thread. Devs you can see what people like and act accordingly
Thanks for your attention guys
Side note this is all based on a rom called simplyhoney for the s1(it was the most impressively themed Rom I have ever tried)