Tab A 10.1 (2016) Oreo update - external storage question - Samsung Galaxy Tab A series Questions & Answers

Hi, the update (T585XXU4CRJ8) has been pushed to my tablet.
Before I install it I'd like to know how the update works with SD cards. At the moment I use AppMgrIII to locate large apps to the SD card, but it doesn't look like AppMgr works with Oreo.
If you've already installed it, does the tablet now natively support external storage for apps? I don't really want to root it, but because so relatively few apps can be installed internally, an update would be pointless (and a backwards step).
Thanks in advance
Mark

Out of curiosity, what country?

mrmagloo said:
Out of curiosity, what country?
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UK

Thanks, eventually it will hit the states...

Replying to myself, after a bit of research I decided to try it and confirm that AppMgr still works, and that external storage for apps isn't a native feature.
astromark said:
Hi, the update (T585XXU4CRJ8) has been pushed to my tablet.
If you've already installed it, does the tablet now natively support external storage for apps? I don't really want to root it, but because so relatively few apps can be installed internally, an update would be pointless (and a backwards step).
Mark
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astromark said:
Hi, the update (T585XXU4CRJ8) has been pushed to my tablet.
Before I install it I'd like to know how the update works with SD cards. At the moment I use AppMgrIII to locate large apps to the SD card, but it doesn't look like AppMgr works with Oreo.
If you've already installed it, does the tablet now natively support external storage for apps? I don't really want to root it, but because so relatively few apps can be installed internally, an update would be pointless (and a backwards step).
Thanks in advance
Mark
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It works with some apps especially the games

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Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 7.0 games on sd card

Hi, is here any change to install aplications and games on external sd card without root?
Thanx for advices.
artemis11 said:
Hi, is here any change to install aplications and games on external sd card without root?
Thanx for advices.
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Unfortunately, no :crying:
And what about this?
HTML:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1278349
This won't work. It's Android design that prevents it from working. Ever since 3.0 Android uses a single partition for everything and will not allow system files on other partitions. In 2.3 and before we has one partition for apps and one for other stuff. All App2SD is actually a hidden form of repartitioning. This is no more. I guess mainly because of stability issues.
Its frustrating. Sygic satnav allows you to move the map files manually to your ext SD card and it works just fine. I hope these larger games will soon allow us to do the same.

[Q] rooted MOJO: how to move apps to SD card

Hi all,
I successfully rooted my MOJO, but I still don't know how to move games to the SD card. I tried a few apps to achieve this, but none of them seems to work. What am I doing wrong? I hope you can help me.
Thanks in advance!
Are the apps giving you any message? App2SD will say something like "The device does not have real primary external storage, or the Primary external storage is emulated. Moving app to SD function may not be supported by this device"
You might try this: http://karthikkn.wordpress.com/2013...ard-on-your-android-phone-without-rooting-it/
mjenny82 said:
Hi all,
I successfully rooted my MOJO, but I still don't know how to move games to the SD card. I tried a few apps to achieve this, but none of them seems to work. What am I doing wrong? I hope you can help me.
Thanks in advance!
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Are you sure your SD card is being read by the MOJO?
Format SD Card to FAT format.
Insert Card.
Go to settings, storage, mount sd card.
Mojorising said:
Are you sure your SD card is being read by the MOJO?
Format SD Card to FAT format.
Insert Card.
Go to settings, storage, mount sd card.
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Yes, my SD card is mounted, I can access it by using a file explorer. However I am not able to move games.
@ExtremeRyno Yes, this is exactly what App2SD is saying. Thanks for the link, did you try it out? I don't think this is going to work on the mojo, since it is not possible to connect a USB cable and using ADB. Or am I wrong?
Is nobody here who successfully moved games to SD card? We have root now, so it should be easy, or not?
You can ADB in via network. Get the IP of the mojo from settings->status, then it's just "adb connect ipaddr" so you can try out the link instructions.
Root doesn't always equate to a completely open system. Some devices just don't work with moving apps to an SD card. My A700 doesn't allow it, and I'm rooted, but my NookColor does allow it. I've yet to get my cable delivered, so I can't attest to anything as of yet.
Maybe someone with MadCatz can give an explanation? I know it's an extremely important feature for a gaming console to have enough storage to handle more than ten or so big games at a time.
mjenny82 said:
Is nobody here who successfully moved games to SD card? We have root now, so it should be easy, or not?
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Found a new app today that seems to get around the problems the other apps have: FolderMount. It's free. I plan to try it out as soon as I root...Probably in the next couple days. If you get a chance before me, let us know how it works.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount
Also, I'm aware of the double post, but they're days apart and this needed a bump (for great justice, right?)
ExtremeRyno said:
Found a new app today that seems to get around the problems the other apps have: FolderMount. It's free. I plan to try it out as soon as I root...Probably in the next couple days. If you get a chance before me, let us know how it works.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount
Also, I'm aware of the double post, but they're days apart and this needed a bump (for great justice, right?)
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Tanks for the tip! I just tried out this app, but unfortunatly it doesn't work. Maybe it works for smaller games, because I was able to move the data to the SD card with it. But if you move big games with OBB data and then start the game, it doesn't find anymore its OBB data and downloads it again.
Also, you can't move back the data from the SD card. I just tried it out with NOVA 3 and I have to redownload the whole game now
It works now, yeehaaa :good:
For some reason, the MOJO needs to be rebooted after moving the OBB data to SD card
Summary:
1. Root the MOJO
2. Format your SD card as a primary partition using fat32
3. Install this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.devasque.fmount
4. Move OBB data of your games
5. reboot
Remark: If you want to move more than 2 apps/games, you will have to buy the pro version of this app.
Awesome! I tried it out on my tablet last night and moved around a couple games....But never more than two at a time. I had no idea that was actually a limitation, either..Just worked out that way. I'll have to buy the full version as soon as I root.
Excellent news.
Not working
ExtremeRyno said:
Awesome! I tried it out on my tablet last night and moved around a couple games....But never more than two at a time. I had no idea that was actually a limitation, either..Just worked out that way. I'll have to buy the full version as soon as I root.
Excellent news.
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I tried that folder mount and did move the folders,but the internal storage indicates the same as before and the obb data remains in the internal storage as apposed to moving completely to the external.Meaning i don't know why but it doesn't work?I too have rooted my m.o.j.o so it's not because of that either.
PHYSC-1 said:
I tried that folder mount and did move the folders,but the internal storage indicates the same as before and the obb data remains in the internal storage as apposed to moving completely to the external.Meaning i don't know why but it doesn't work?I too have rooted my m.o.j.o so it's not because of that either.
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Okay try again but on a fresh start (on/off).
Maybe you had a process running in the back?
And remember to reboot it after moving.
gwaldo said:
Okay try again but on a fresh start (on/off).
Maybe you had a process running in the back?
And remember to reboot it after moving.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2748087 this works though just been clarified for games being moved.
Unless I am mistaken apps2sd and gl to sd, don't move the data file making them useless in the real world. and I've not looked into it for about 6 months or so, so something might have changed but filemount doesn't work correctly on android 4.2.2 and onwards.
And unfortunately its the same for directory bind (undoubtedly the best mount/binder ever on android) simply amazing application but again it don't like 4.2.2
Not tried directory bind on the mojo cause unless some things changed with it the last few months its not going to work. Also I don't fancy doing anything to the mojo until a Recovery's available and that ain't happening unfortuinately

Take Kitkat update OR keep Jelly Bean ?

Hi all:
this time I see Google insist that any new smartphone should be ships with the latest Android version.
What Google is looking for in KitKat ?
For me I will not update to KitKat !
Because of the following:
"The WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE permission must only grant write access to the primary external storage on a device. Apps must not be allowed to write to secondary external storage devices, except in their package-specific directories as allowed by synthesized permissions."
That means your microSD card is secondary storage and apps will not be allowed to use it, Google has screwed up the KitKat API as they think there is a big security problem with external SD cards !!!!!
Oh... your SD Card is completely useless, applications will no longer be able to create, modify or remove files and folders on your external SD card. As a for-instance, you can no longer use a file manager to copy files from your computer to the SD card over a network.
in short Google want you to use their cloud services instead of your SD card, I feel like we are going back in time, and Samsung is involved in this game.
one-option said:
Hi all:
this time I see Google insist that any new smartphone should be ships with the latest Android version.
What Google is looking for in KitKat ?
For me I will not update to KitKat !
Because of the following:
"The WRITE_EXTERNAL_STORAGE permission must only grant write access to the primary external storage on a device. Apps must not be allowed to write to secondary external storage devices, except in their package-specific directories as allowed by synthesized permissions."
That means your microSD card is secondary storage and apps will not be allowed to use it, Google has screwed up the KitKat API as they think there is a big security problem with external SD cards !!!!!
Oh... your SD Card is completely useless, applications will no longer be able to create, modify or remove files and folders on your external SD card. As a for-instance, you can no longer use a file manager to copy files from your computer to the SD card over a network.
in short Google want you to use their cloud services instead of your SD card, I feel like we are going back in time, and Samsung is involved in this game.
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There is already a fix for that
I'm using KitKat and have no problem with ext.sd. everything is working good.
KK goes without saying!!!
KitKat!
Better kitkat :good:
KitKat. period. I flashed the stock firmware first before flashing custom formware. No issues.
yep, kit kat.
definitely kitkat.
Have a break (with jellybean). Have a KitKat.
cheers ~
Zoddex said:
There is already a fix for that
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Well, my S4 is not rooted , that fix also could miss your phone, I don't know what is the point in having a MicroSD slot, then Kitkat will make it useless !!!
as it is not enough that Touchwize rom taking much of the phone storage, but Kitkat will make things even more hard !!!!
Guys just be aware of what you are going to do with your S4
Zoddex said:
There is already a fix for that
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Link PLS ...
Mittaa said:
Link PLS ...
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Here you have it (from Google Play): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix
kponto said:
Here you have it (from Google Play): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix
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Better late than never, but thanks anyway LOL
Found the same solution weeks ago :good:
I would suggest go for KitKat as it's awesome for performance and battery is beastly
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How to save/move Apps to SD card?

Hi could anyone tell me how to save Apps to an SD card in my Z2?
You cant... its because Google decided to restrict it in 4.4
Cobman said:
Hi could anyone tell me how to save Apps to an SD card in my Z2?
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You can't, read about the restrictions of KitKat. and if you have root you can use an app to do that.
Seriously? Can't believe I just found out... what is the point of this restriction? is andriod trying to copy Apple with their restricted iphone storage?
Fadeless said:
Seriously? Can't believe I just found out... what is the point of this restriction? is andriod trying to copy Apple with their restricted iphone storage?
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I don't think Google likes SD cards, and they try to promote their Google Drive. None of the Nexuses have SD card slots.
"Cloud is the future".
Xernoxis said:
I don't think Google likes SD cards, and they try to promote their Google Drive. None of the Nexuses have SD card slots.
"Cloud is the future".
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What about applications though, you can exactly move them to cloud to free up space. The Z2 only has 16gb and with apps getting bigger and bigger that's really going to be a big limitation.
Fadeless said:
What about applications though, you can exactly move them to cloud to free up space. The Z2 only has 16gb and with apps getting bigger and bigger that's really going to be a big limitation.
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So your apps use 12GB storage? That is how much free space you have. For backup apps you can just move the backup folder to SD card. You can have Nandroid backup on SD card aswell.
Also music and films go to SD card. There are exploits for Spotify to move the folder to the SD card.
Xernoxis said:
So your apps use 12GB storage? That is how much free space you have. For backup apps you can just move the backup folder to SD card. You can have Nandroid backup on SD card aswell.
Also music and films go to SD card. There are exploits for Spotify to move the folder to the SD card.
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What about photos? But true, unless I am going to get massive games like GTA I should be fine I guess.
Fadeless said:
What about photos? But true, unless I am going to get massive games like GTA I should be fine I guess.
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You should be able to save photos/videos to SD card still (there's an option in the camera app).
There is an option to transfer data like videos, photo's & music in "storage" , which I know does not solve the problem but is good news for Z2 developers because this shows that it's possble to do it & create roms with that purpose in mind...
There's no problem on galaxy devices coz their native folder manager "My files" bypasses this restriction.
I hope Sony creates their own native manager to fix that!
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Hi guys! Do have any roms in mind that can transfer apps to sd card? I just bought my Z2 and i also have a 128gb sd card. Im having 2nd thoughts installing custom rom but if the stock rom cant allow me to install apps to sd, i will have no choice but to install that rom. Thank you!
argelb said:
Hi guys! Do have any roms in mind that can transfer apps to sd card? I just bought my Z2 and i also have a 128gb sd card. Im having 2nd thoughts installing custom rom but if the stock rom cant allow me to install apps to sd, i will have no choice but to install that rom. Thank you!
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Try a Xposed module named XInternalSD
Try foldermount. On my Z2 it works but I have the premium version. I am not sure if it also works with the free version.
mariusfl0rian said:
Try foldermount. On my Z2 it works but I have the premium version. I am not sure if it also works with the free version.
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Free version should work also, I believe difference is in number of pairs allowed.
Thanks for the reply guys! I tried folder mount and it indeed worked for me. But i have another concern, i dont know if its just my phone or others are also having this issue. Do you have problem installing some apps? It says No space available but i still have 9gb available in my internal card. Hope u can suggest what i can do to install any app i want. Thank you!
So how can I save downloaded songs from spotify to my sdcard?
Link: http://amzn.com/B00IVPU894
Kinda useless purchase.
higgs_ said:
So how can I save downloaded songs from spotify to my sdcard?
Link: http://amzn.com/B00IVPU894
Kinda useless purchase.
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Let's go out on a limb here but have you tried folder mount?
Still can't do it with new update?
So let me get this straight, even with the new update(4.4.4), you still can't move apps to sdcard on the Z2???
I'm unrooted/stock, just got the device, but I'm shocked to know this, I should've looked more into it before making the purchase. I have link2sd, and I noticed it just takes me to the app in app info(which I could do by myself through settings), and I still don't have an option to move apps to sd card.
Am I missing something? I have to root to move apps to sdcard with the z2 on the latest stock rom and firmware??
I didn't want to start a new thread and saw this one, among others.

Apps on SD Card

I loved Stock Android around when KitKat was out, but I came to hate it when Lollipop came out. I decided to get the Moto X and try out Marshmallow, but I'm already running into problems with/hating Google's (and Motorola's) oversimplified features.
Usually when I get a phone a put in an SD card so I can store some apps and data on there, as well as music, pictures, files, etc. that has been on the card for years. I pop in the SD card to the 16 gig phone ready to move Spotify and some other apps to the card, but then I run into that whole "format as internal storage. It says that formatting it will wipe the card (obviously), but it also says once I do I will only be able to use the SD card with this device, and when I asked a friend for help, she said I wouldn't be able to transfer data from the card anymore either.
I started searching everywhere on the internet for a workaround, but I can't find anything. Is there any workaround with this? I'm already rooted and on a ROM so I'm open to any suggestions. If not I'm just going to sell the phone or downgrade to lollipop.
Which version of twrp are you using ?
You need to make sure you have this version of twrp.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3200520
Prior to this version, twrp was broke in regards to the new adaptable storage that came in Android M, then finally a few weeks ago, 3.0.0 came out, fixed that, and also a few other things. I can not use the combined/adaptable storage feature in Marshmallow like it was intended. To be honest, it was the major reason I got this phone and bought the 16gb version. Its all good now tho.
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Sheetzie03 said:
Which version of twrp are you using ?
You need to make sure you have this version of twrp.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3200520
Prior to this version, twrp was broke in regards to the new adaptable storage that came in Android M, then finally a few weeks ago, 3.0.0 came out, fixed that, and also a few other things. I can not use the combined/adaptable storage feature in Marshmallow like it was intended. To be honest, it was the major reason I got this phone and bought the 16gb version. Its all good now tho.
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Yeah I have 3.0.0 installed on my phone, should I reinstall it or install 3.0.1?
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Yeah I have 3.0.0 installed on my phone, should I reinstall it or install 3.0.1?
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Can you explain what the problem is again? Starting with twrp 3.0 , adaptable storage should work as its suppose to.
And yeah I just seen 3.0.1 is out I'm thinking just flashing the .IMG will work, I used flashify
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Sheetzie03 said:
Can you explain what the problem is again? Starting with twrp 3.0 , adaptable storage should work as its suppose to.
And yeah I just seen 3.0.1 is out I'm thinking just flashing the .IMG will work, I used flashify
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The problem is Marshmallow wants me to format my SD card as internal storage just to store apps on it, and I am trying to find a way to store apps on there without formating it, as I've been doing with all previous Android versions.
I don't get why you wouldn't want to use the adaptable storage option. What's wrong with backing ur sd up to pc, format as internal(adaptable storage? , and then copy back from pc. If I'm missing something, my bad.
Otherwise,
Pretty sure there isn't way to do what you want on 6.0... But again, I don't know what you are actually losing out on other than having to back the card 1st, format, and copy back. A small hassle
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Sheetzie03 said:
I don't get why you wouldn't want to use the adaptable storage option. What's wrong with backing ur sd up to pc, format as internal(adaptable storage? , and then copy back from pc. If I'm missing something, my bad.
Otherwise,
Pretty sure there isn't way to do what you want on 6.0... But again, I don't know what you are actually losing out on other than having to back the card 1st, format, and copy back. A small hassle
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I don't want to use the adaptable storage because I will only be able to use the SD card with this phone and I won't be able to transfer data from it either.
This is a problem because I currently use the SD card between two phones, as a makeshift flash drive, and as storage for my DSLR so I can edit photos with my phone.
I went through this whole ordeal myself recently.
You can't have it both ways. I chose to format my card as portable storage so it will remain readable in any card reader. The draw back is apps can't be stored on it, nor most app data.
To work around this i'm making every app a system app. This will alleviate some of the burden of the internal storage. Some apps will just not work as system apps. I think swype is one example.
Some apps will require their .lib to be placed in the appropriate lib folder under system (lib or lib64 for 64bit binaries). Google maps and hangouts are two examples that come to mind. You'll know if you need this if the app crashes when starting.
The ideal solution is to have a phone with at least 32GB storage or more. This becomes a non issue then.
Yeah, Motorola removed the Move to SD card feature in favor of "the richer experience natively provided by Android."
I think you can use TWRP "Partition SD Card" to create 2 partitions on the SD, though... a FAT32 partition to share with your other devices and an EXT4 partition that you can use to store apps. You'll need an android app like Mounts2SD to copy apps to/from the external storage.
The other option is to downgrade to 5.1.1 or use a 6.0 ROM that still has the old Move to SD card feature. I'm not sure if there are any, though.
gpz1100 said:
I went through this whole ordeal myself recently.
You can't have it both ways. I chose to format my card as portable storage so it will remain readable in any card reader. The draw back is apps can't be stored on it, nor most app data.
To work around this i'm making every app a system app. This will alleviate some of the burden of the internal storage. Some apps will just not work as system apps. I think swype is one example.
Some apps will require their .lib to be placed in the appropriate lib folder under system (lib or lib64 for 64bit binaries). Google maps and hangouts are two examples that come to mind. You'll know if you need this if the app crashes when starting.
The ideal solution is to have a phone with at least 32GB storage or more. This becomes a non issue then.
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To the op Sorry man, I didn't really know all this. But this post seems to explain it pretty well. Looks like you may have to sell or downgrade. That sucks.
As far as this specific post is concerned, I'm trying to follow my best. As you said, best would be to buy at least at 32gb well some, including me have already bought a 16gb, unfortunately. Personally, iv chose to use adaptable now that twrp 3.0 is out. When i Install apps, wherever they go is where they go. After seeing this thread, I'm thinking maybe there is way to do things a different way to save some space. I went ahead and went into apps and tried moving Spotify from internal to SD card. but after I did this, I noticed every time I close the app it signs me out lol wth... that's a problem. I didn't know why it was doing that. Is this an example of an app not being able to run correctly on the SD rather than internal? Also, i tried moving maps from internal to sd, seemed to be running fine, but shortly after, i noticed on a reboot, it somehow uninstsalls. Its gone as if i uninstalled it manually but i obv did not. Like what? How is this even possible. I wanted to give you a few examples of what i tried and what was happening. But I asked myself why am I even doing this, is it to save space? If it is, that's fine.
But yeah man, it seems you know more than me about this , that's safe to say. But based on what iv written here, can you give me some advice on things to do if I'm using the adaptable storage option. Should I be moving apps? Why? Which ones? Or just leave things as is? Again i have a 16gb model with a 32gb card running adaptable storage. If there are ways to save space by moving apps certain places I'm fine with that. I'd just like to get your opinion on what exactly I should be doing based on the model I have, size card, and running adaptable storage. Hey sorry too bother you about this. I had noticed you replied to the op of this topic and you know what you are talking about.
And to the op, sorry if iv hijacked your post man.
Peace
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Yeah I should have gotten the 32gb version, although it's kind of my fault because I already had a negative opinion of post-kitkat stock Android yet I got the device anyways. Maybe I can resell the device on swappa and get a 32gb version instead of buying a new one, mainly because the only two phones of the 2015 generation I have interest in is the Moto X Pure and the One M9. Worst case scenario is settling for Samsung (as oneplus said, never settle)
To make matters worst, I temporarily moved all the data to my computer and formated the SD card as internal as a test, only to find out the two apps I put on there don't want to act properly because the SD card is too slow (which is why the feature shouldn't even be here in the first place).
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If I do do one of those options it would most likely be the second one because last time I messed with partitions on an SD card I, somehow, bricked the phone. I could look for a tutorial somewhere, but this phone's XDA forums is relatively quiet compared to other phones I've had (especially Android development).
@Sheetzie03, I can't help you with adoptable space as it's not something I have much experience with. It could be spotify relies on other components which are not accessible when on the sd.

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