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High Tech Crap have once again surpassed themselves with the Wizard.
My stylus is held in by sticky tape and the paint flakes off, however even worse my good friend Alex's died a few days ago of its own accord. He thought maybe it had just run out of batteries so he plugged the charger in and within seconds it got so hot that it burned him and melted all the internal stickers off. god knows what would have happened if he'd left it.
Just a warning. Sounds like a lawsuit to me
Your issues seem atypical--I've been reading through this forum for a few months now and haven't come across a single one where somebody said their Wizard blew up/melted/what have you. Sorry you're having problems, but isn't that what a warranty is for?
Doubt the paint and stylus are covered by warranty, certainly not the paint as they know its just an issue full stop and would be replacing each and every unit constantly.
I disagree with your assessment. See here.
Well when your house burns down, don't say I didn't warn you
Doubt the paint and stylus are covered by warranty, certainly not the paint as they know its just an issue full stop and would be replacing each and every unit constantly.
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They should do. You'd think for the price these things would be built to the highest standard. They MUST know these things are issues when they start producing these. Either that or they did NO product testing. I don't understand how it passes EC quality control.
If you bought a car and the paint fell off you'd expect it sorting out. I bet the paint won't flake off the Sony Ericssion p990.
If each of us here wrote to HTC/Trading Standards/our service providers we could get a brand new handset each.
In fact, if I start a petition on here that just requires name and email address, and sent it to HTC, threatening to send it to trading standards, how many people do you think would sign it if it meant a free device for each of us?
Because TBH, I'm pretty sick of spending hundereds of pounds on HTC junk only to have it fall apart after 2 months EVERY TIME, not to mention the software issues. In fact, I'm pretty sure they're required by law to replace things like that.
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Because TBH, I'm pretty sick of spending hundereds of pounds on HTC junk only to have it fall apart after 2 months EVERY TIME, not to mention the software issues. In fact, I'm pretty sure they're required by law to replace things like that.
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I am really sorry to hear about your issues. However, you must understand that the K-JAM is nowhere near the Casio E-200 as far as quality is concerned. I went through 3 E-200's and the product line was so bad, Casio eventually pulled it off the market and not soon later exited the PPC market altogether.
I am on many forums and have heard relatively few complaint other than the standard stylus-loose issue and maybe just a complaint here and there that the paint on the blue "E" for internet explorer came off. Considering that the Wizard comes from Imate, T-Mobile, 02, DoPod, etc it seems relatively few people have the same issues as you mention. Personally, I beleive either you treat your device harshly or you got one from a bad production batch. I have had my K-JAM for 8 months already, and aside from the stylus being loose nothing else is wrong with the device.
If you are that dissapointed, get on the phone with support and demand that you want a replacement unit. Tell them exactly what you complained about here that you didn't expect such an expensive device to peel and chip. See how that goes.
Please read properly.
My device is fine. I was talking about my friend's device. I assure you, I take excellent care of mine.
My point was that there should be safety mechanisms to prevent things getting so hot to the point that they melt and pose a fire risk, no matter how badly you treat it (which he didn't).
The only faults on mine are the loose stylus and the flaky paint -both known problems. My point is that for £400 you shouldn't have to put up with either. I mean, if you buy a cheap, low quality phone for £20 I bet the paint wouldn't flake off, so why do HTC who charge so extortionally for what should be quality products be forgiven for cutting corners and selling shoddy hardware?
Also, it's only because of the gurus on here like Vijay and Buzz that our devices work at all. We shouldn't have to rely on these guys working volentarily to try and patch up the bugs left in by HTC/Microsoft. It's not even like the odd bug; EVERY SINGLE ROM is full of serious errors that HTC know are there and affect even basic functions. I am grateful to buzz/vijay, but it sholdn't be their job to do it. They don't get paid to do it. For the price we pay, you should expect maybe the odd bug, but not some of the ridiculous and obvious errors that HTC sell these devices knowing about (talking more about the BlueAngel/Universal really, but alot of people report Wizard bugs too)
Also, saying a device by another manufacturer is worse does not justify making a sub-quality product. If the paint flaked off you car, I wouldn't try and defend it by saying that the wheels fell off mine so you should be happy. That's ridiculous. you paid alot of money for a product which you should expect a certain quality from.
I think if just a few hundered of us petitioned, threatening to involve trading standards, it might just give HTC a kick up the arse, show them that we won't just put up with this stuff because they can't be bothered fixing it and get them to put a little more effort into ensuring the hardware and software quality of their next device.
Viva la revolution
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I disagree with your assessment. See here.
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That maybe so but it doesnt change the fact that the paint flakes off.
What would the conversation to support go like ?
Consumer " Hi I bought a device from you and the paint is flaking off. "
Support " Yes but the device will survive should it be dropped in water "
Consumer " Really ? "
Support " Yes. "
Consumer " I didnt realise. Sorry to have troubled you. "
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right.... I guess I deserved that....
I'm actually wondering if HTC actually makes all the various cases for these devices. Or, do they sell the basic insides as an OEM provider and the end seller provides the rest. This wouldn't apply to Qtek devices of course as these probably would be completely produced by HTC.
Case in point: I'm not aware of paint peeling or loose stylus issues on the 8125. Perhaps somebody can correct me here.
now this is funny!!! I have not had any problems with the phone yet. But i would sign if anyone started it. I will stand by my boys in arms hehehehe
but i do think there is a diffrence between a car and phone, that the phone takes alot from being in a pocket or something ( how about we all put car paint on our phones) and a car is made to withstand rain and so fore. But i do think that it should be abit better for the price.
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Please read properly.
Also, saying a device by another manufacturer is worse does not justify making a sub-quality product. If the paint flaked off you car, I wouldn't try and defend it by saying that the wheels fell off mine so you should be happy. That's ridiculous. you paid alot of money for a product which you should expect a certain quality from.
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I seem to remember the old Citroen BX's cost a lot of money in their day and the paint flaked off... people still bought them though.... and they still worked... not to mention the fact the wheel could fall off and it would work too :lol:
seriously though. i agree that the paint flaking is a bit of an issue, and the stylus not seating properly is poor design. I do think however that fighting via a petition for them to replace our devices with equally as faulty devices is a waste of time. Example for this is my friend and I both have owend smart roadsters. they both slightly leaked as with nearly all cabriolets, but he moaned and demanded they fix it (i didnt!)... it went in for the supposed leak fix and came back worse than before and he had to reject the car (upsetting himself at the same time because he really loved that car for what it was). I just dont quite see why i would want to cut my own nose to spite my face right now
Cry me a river, this is what is known as the bleeding edge.
Look what you are holding in your hand, its a miniature PC with bluetooth, wifi, a phone with gprs/edge, a PDA with a full keyboard. This is an incredibly elegant device. Yes my stylus falls out but when I took it apart I was totaly impressed by the elegance of the design, flawed maybe but not the china crap I've seen. Also understand how the supply chain works. HTC contracts out with flex or foxcon or whomever which actually manufacture these, most all electronic mfg do this. So as a mfg you are dependent on the quality of your sub, yes you can and do police them but with a mobile workforce you are going to get quality issues. It's just the way the world works and as was said, that's what the warrenty is for unless of course you flashed a new rom or opened the case and voided it, then tough luck.
Well, I would agree with thompsd. I mean, HP and others have phones that work much stable, better and the paint doesn't flake off. So, why don't you just go ahead and buy yourself an HP Phone? I'm not sure about your reason, but I just can't affort an HP, and I don't really like the bulky HP (though their recent device looks promising, not sure about the price).
Hey, consider the HTC company is like.. how old? Oh man, give them some slack. I think they are pretty good in putting in so many things into such a small unit and if they aren't that good with their paint job, so be it. However, having said that, I'm still expecting them to be getting much better soon, inside out. Go ahead with your petition thing and good luck.
BTW, how does the 'easily scratched' iPod case ended?
Anyway, as for the fire thing, it is not an HTC issue only. The invincible Apple had laptop camp fire here and the mighty Dell had their contribution on the conference.
My advise is, don't leave any electronic stuff left unattented.
@ JNGold
First of all sorry for deviating from the true subject of this thread.
I am glad that you are happy with the build quality of your wizard. Since you have been using your device for 8 months I would like to know if the keyboard sliding mechanism is showing any signs of wear / looseness. I am interested in this because previously I owned the i-mate pda2k (HTC magician) and over few months of use the keyboard became quite loose to the point that it would slide open by its own weight if held vertically.
I am now considering going for the HTC TyTn once this is out. My only apprehension is the quality of the slide mechanism and your comments would be really helpful.
Thanks and Regards
Why do you repeat buy HTC if you're having such issues with their devices?
My point is, if HTC can do such an excellent job (and it is excellent) of getting so much technology into such a small space, and charge so much for their devices, why not just spend the extra 5 minutes to make sure the paint doesn't flake off? I don't understand why they think they can sell something which is faulty.
It's a device designed to be mobile and carried in a pocket (hence pocket pc/windows mobile). For £400 you are entitled to expect that the paint will be to a reasonable quality like EVERY other phone on the market.
I have just noticed that every HTC device has a whole host of small flaws that could be avoided so easily and at no extra cost, if they just thought about what they were doing. My friend has programmed for Windows Mobile and he tells me that they know its full of bugs and clashing scripts because of a lack of cummunication between departments, but they just release the software anyway, where an extra couple of days resolving the clashes between each application would solve the problem.
I mean, someone's worked really hard making all the hardware fit in the case which is the difficult part, but then not bothered designing or testing the stylus issue, something which is obviously gunna suffer from wear and tear.
I don't want a replacement device, but I just think that if we scare HTC/our service providers a bit with threats of trading standards, and show that alot of us are interested then it might make them spend the extra couple of weeks testing their next device and making sure it works well before they sell it.
I mean, the Sony Ericsson P990 does everything the wizard does, and more, but I bet they made sure the paint doesn't fall off and the stylus stays in. high functionality does not have to mean low quality.
Err... Can't speak for the p990 but the p800 I had suffered from peeling paint and stylus issues as well (cracking styluses, styluses that fell off) as well as a notorious keyboard design that actually worked until you put it in your pocket and broke the two tiny tabs that held the top of the keyboard away from the screen. So Sony-Ericsson isn't the acme of product perfection you hold them to be.
The only peeling paint I have had with my wizard has been the qtek label on the bottom. Which to me was no great loss.
To me the biggest issue with this phone has always been the software. Which honestly has improved dramatically since the 1.x firmware days.
I knew going in that the wizard had the potential to be a disaster of a phone hey lets see, an innovative package and feature set and new software from Microsoft is quite the triple threat for product mayhem but 9 months into it I have little to complain about.
That may all change tomorrow when the phone decides to self-whimilate or some such thing. but for now I'm content.
Got my Vario II at the weekend. It's my first Windows phone, so I thought I'd give my first opinions for any fellow newbies that are thinking of buying the same handset.
I've always liked the idea of having a decent smartphone, but the size has always put me off. I finally took the plunge two years ago with a Nokia 7610, a Series 60 phone running Symbian OS. However, surprisingly, perhaps, for a Nokia, the user interface was unintuitive, the phone crashed on a regular basis, and some of the keys stopped working intermittently. I might have been able to put up with some of this if the phone lived up to its promise as a PDA/phone combination, but I found that it had little more to offer than any other phone, apart from a few third-party apps. I ended up using it as just a normal handset and couldn't wait to replace it with a SE K750i, which apart from some problems with the built-in joystick, was a much better all-rounder.
Anyway. On to the Vario II. It was T-Mobile's 'unlimited' Web'n'Walk package that got me interested in getting a smartphone again, but I must admit that based on my experience of iPAQs running PPC2003, I was worried about how stable a Windows-powered phone might be. Nevertheless, I ordered one online with the knowledge that I can send it back within 14 days if I had problems.
My first impressions of the handset were that it's bigger and heavier than I was expecting. Comparing it to My old 7610, it's only a couple of mm thicker, and slightly wider, but it still feels pretty big in comparison for some reason. Still, it fits in my pocket okay, so I guess I'll get used to it. It's probably just about small enough not to look too odd when held up to your ear, but I wouldn't want one much bigger.
I was pleasantly surprised to find that they'd included a stereo headset, spare stylus, screen protector and a leather case in the box. I can't see me using the case, though, as it adds a lot of thickness to the phone.
The user interface is very similar to my iPAQ. It's most certainly a PDA foremost and a phone second. There are also lots of buttons on the outside of the handset (well, five) and a wheel. It's too early to tell whether these will prove useful yet. The keyboard is easy to use and you can type emails at a reasonable speed with some practice. I'm also pleased that (so far) I've had no problems with the stability of the OS, but based on the reports on this forum, I'm praying that the screen alignment, stylus and keyboard issues don't affect me.
Although I've read the enclosed manual, and I've only had the Vario for a couple of days, I'm still finding it a little unintuitive to use for making calls and I still have no idea how to force the unit to connect to the internet other than starting Outlook or Pocket IE, so I have to start one of those two first before I used any other network-based applications. I'm pretty sure I'll get used to it given time, but I'd definitely not recommend it for anyone who doesn't have some degree of technical knowledge.
However, I guess a lot of this is missing the point. This handset has a full QWERTY keyboard, web browser, email, Word, Powerpoint and Excel in a (relatively) tiny package, along with Wi-Fi and a 3G connection which rivals broadband speeds. Even a year ago, it would be almost unthinkable to have that kind of functionality in a mobile phone. For the first time, I'd be confident not taking a laptop computer away with me when I go away, and that's really the point of this device.
I'll report back again with my thoughts once I've got used to the handset for a couple of weeks (and, presumably, some of the novelty has worn off), but my initial impressions are good.
Hey all I currently have a Nexus One as my current device, but am thinking about moving to a Trophy. Can you you guys give me some info about what the screen is like, what the keyboard is like and what the hardware is like, compared to the Nexus One.
Thanks
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http://www.hellkom.co.za/cellphones/compare.php?id1=101&id2=300
I was thinking more on the lines of user experience
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Well you are essentially asking about Windows Phone vs Android. That usually starts a non-productive discussion.
I would go on youtube and do a search for Windows Phone 7 interface so you can see how it works. Go into a store and play around with the demo phones. Then go into the Windows Phone general forum and see all the advantages and disadvantages and make an informed decision.
Windows Phone is nice. It is unique, works well, and has a good foundation. It does have limitations so you will have to determine if it is suitable or not.
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Well you are essentially asking about Windows Phone vs Android. That usually starts a non-productive discussion.
I would go on youtube and do a search for Windows Phone 7 interface so you can see how it works. Go into a store and play around with the demo phones. Then go into the Windows Phone general forum and see all the advantages and disadvantages and make an informed decision.
Windows Phone is nice. It is unique, works well, and has a good foundation. It does have limitations so you will have to determine if it is suitable or not.
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Essentially all I really want are some comments about the hardware, I'm familiar with Windows Phone's UI and its system limitations.
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I just bought my HTC 7 Trophy. I also used to have Nexus One before replacing it with Xperia X10 Mini Pro.
Build quality wise, it's top notch with a solid construction all around. The front half of the body is... I think some sort of metal, there's a hint of brushed aluminum look similar to Sony Ericsson X1 while the back half is plastic with anti slip treatment. The metallic bezel finishes a simple yet elegant design of the phone.
I don't like the fact that the back, home and search button uses a touch sensitive buttons since I occasionally pressed the search button while browsing the Internet on landscape mode. But I'm hoping Microsoft updates the buttons sensitivity on future WP7 update.
Frankly, I'm unsure when purchasing my Trophy... But after just 10 minutes of ownership, all good, surprised even that the phone easily exceeds all my expectation, build quality wise and performance wise. My first WP7 and might not be my last.
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I just bought my HTC 7 Trophy. I also used to have Nexus One before replacing it with Xperia X10 Mini Pro.
Build quality wise, it's top notch with a solid construction all around. The front half of the body is... I think some sort of metal, there's a hint of brushed aluminum look similar to Sony Ericsson X1 while the back half is plastic with anti slip treatment. The metallic bezel finishes a simple yet elegant design of the phone.
I don't like the fact that the back, home and search button uses a touch sensitive buttons since I occasionally pressed the search button while browsing the Internet on landscape mode. But I'm hoping Microsoft updates the buttons sensitivity on future WP7 update.
Frankly, I'm unsure when purchasing my Trophy... But after just 10 minutes of ownership, all good, surprised even that the phone easily exceeds all my expectation, build quality wise and performance wise. My first WP7 and might not be my last.
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Thank you, that's exactly what I needed!
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Possiblу is replacement of procesor QUALCOMM QSD8250 on HTC HD2 with dual core 1.5GHz procesor similar with mainboard and other components?I mean CPU of another smartphone.Thanks in adviance
I don't even know if its possible, but there would be so many problems caused by doing that that it really wouldn't be worth it.
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It's probably not possible.
Too long a response: what I've seen inside the Leo.
I have the remains of 3 disassembled HTC HD2 units in the fight lab (aka storage).
I will warn that these units are never able to be put back together exactly perfect as they were initially. This is because they are assembled like thin layers of stickers stuck on top of each other you need to peel apart. There are layers of copper shielding, plastic, thin metal, etc. all sandwiched together with adhesive. I've taken apart damn near everything I can, (a personality trait and/or symptom of a disorder, a gift and a curse) and I can say that disassembling an iPhone is cake compared to peeling apart HD2s which are a curse.
So, upon peeling it apart, I encountered different CPU cooling techniques on the different units: yellow thermal compound on one, a thick red/orange thermal pad on the second, and a plastic piece stuck with a mystery compound (possibly even glue) on the 3rd. A faster chip will likely be even hotter.
Look into "reballing" when it comes to soldered cpu replacement. The complexities of the physical replacement are significant but the routing of correct functionality from the alien processor are what makes it a much more difficult project, but nothing is impossible.
One would have to have manufacturer schematics of the board, insider details of chips/other components if functionality is to be had even IF the physical removal and replacement of the processor was achieved. The physical install of a faster clocked chip I think we will see done successfully by someone, but the function of the hardware may be forever impossible unless what I believe is closed/unreleased code/info becomes public. If any device were to have it's complete wealth of detailed info released from company insiders/Dark Force Teams/Chinese anons/crafty work, et al, I'd bet it very well would be the Leo. (We can dream).
To be clear, I'm no chip alchemist at all, I'm just sharing what I've seen and been told by some professionals who know at least a little on what I generalize as computer hardware engineering. Having extensively researched (aka wasted too much of my life on) and even managed to discuss with some HP technicians about a tablet CPU upgrade of a soldered Dothan board, I learned that even if the CPU is successfully replaced (& it doesn't explode) it's more than likely the timings of the board may wind up very effed up. Being uncharted territory, there is no way to find out but to try. I appreciate it if I helped or something interesting came from my ramblings, I think clicking thanks helps me or something. Keep fighting and don't take apart your HD2 if you don't have another one handy!
If i change motherboard(cpu,ram and others) and replace them with another motherboard(with cpu,ram and others) but but outside HD2 is unchanged,with same display and buttons!This is a posable?Please tell me?
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If i change motherboard(cpu,ram and others) and replace them with another motherboard(with cpu,ram and others) but but outside HD2 is unchanged,with same display and buttons!This is a posable?Please tell me?
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er, replace them with what? a quad core and 4gb from your pc? and why? are you skilled in microsoldering and chip reprogramming?
how much space is inside your phone and what do you really think the chances are of replacing anything?
did you not read the post above yours by ComputerFight. he has seen the inside of an HD2 and lived to tell the tale
i would usually answer 'anything is possible' but i think this one has to be a no
Even if it was possible, i don't understand what would you acomplish with it?
HD2 is legend because of it's wide variety of OSs, roms etc, not because of its hardware.. at least not anymore.
I would rather buy an new phone or used HD2 if i feel like playing around with flashing different operating systems.
If you do even manage to successfully solder and re-wire new hardware onto the HD2, it wouldn't be usable because there are no drivers for them. Someone who have to build hardware drivers from scratch or port them from other phones then every HD2 Rom would have to be re-done to work with the new hardware. I'm no tech expert but I hardware isn't the main problem, it's software. It would be cool if we got tegra 3 and more ram on the HD2 though, that would give the HD2 2-3 more years in a chance to run future roms.
Still another smartphone to make the appearance as being an HTC HD2?Do you think it possible?
Would you recommend a dual core cpu to pull out another smartphone and puts htc hd2 (as htc sensation xl)?
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Would you recommend a dual core cpu to pull out another smartphone and puts htc hd2 (as htc sensation xl)?
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Hi all,
Been a while since I posted in these forums! I think my last check in was around the time of the HTC Titan.
Anyhow, I recently I have been designing cases for high end tablets. I just finished work on the Samsung Ativ700t. Check it out.
Demo and making of.
http://youtu.be/-QlsQIz71KU
Now that I'm finished with the Ativ I'm looking for the next best high end tablet to work on. I was thinking that the Helix may be a good fit.
The Surface Pro seems like it would be fun but MS seems to have things pretty well covered already with their kickstand and keyboard cover.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Isaiah Coberly
Routb3d said:
Hi all,
Been a while since I posted in these forums! I think my last check in was around the time of the HTC Titan.
Anyhow, I recently I have been designing cases for high end tablets. I just finished work on the Samsung Ativ700t. Check it out.
Demo and making of.
http://youtu.be/-QlsQIz71KU
Now that I'm finished with the Ativ I'm looking for the next best high end tablet to work on. I was thinking that the Helix may be a good fit.
The Surface Pro seems like it would be fun but MS seems to have things pretty well covered already with their kickstand and keyboard cover.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
Isaiah Coberly
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Yes, what about a 500t one? There is a lot more demand for the 500t tablet than the 700t.
Appreciate the video for the fabrication process.
Looks like Batman armor. You should stick in a bat insignia (and hope DC Comics won't sue). Suggest Batman-style "musculature" styling accents. Glow accents? (http://thatscoolwire.com) Right now it looks...utilitarian. No sizzle. For high-end toys, you want some panache. A little je ne sais quoi.
The handstrap in the back looks useful and you should use it as the leading pitch, since most cases don't have the feature. As a logical progression, suggest enhancing strap with a 360 pivot--although it would be wasted on Windows tabs, since Win8 Metro is still functionally limited to landscape. Which segues to another question: Why Windows tablets, which has about zero market share? Why not popular Android tablets? Adjustable retention tabs?
Frankly, the origami folds look way too complicated to use, and can't be locked in place for optimal touch use, ie if you press on the screen, the whole thing bounces up and down like a bad shock absorber. Apple's tri-fold is the simplest and best. That allows two incline angles (for viewing & typing), which is all you need. You can allow said tri-fold in both landscape & portrait orientations, ie a tic-tac-toe pattern.
>Yes, what about a 500t one?
With a $129 price, OP is right in sticking to high-end toys. I think he can simplify the design and reduce a substantial part of the labor. But for higher volume (for lower margin), he'd need to go to a mass production process anyway.
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Appreciate the video for the fabrication process.
Looks like Batman armor. You should stick in a bat insignia (and hope DC Comics won't sue). Suggest Batman-style "musculature" styling accents. Glow accents? (http://thatscoolwire.com) Right now it looks...utilitarian. No sizzle. For high-end toys, you want some panache. A little je ne sais quoi.
The handstrap in the back looks useful and you should use it as the leading pitch, since most cases don't have the feature. As a logical progression, suggest enhancing strap with a 360 pivot--although it would be wasted on Windows tabs, since Win8 Metro is still functionally limited to landscape. Which segues to another question: Why Windows tablets, which has about zero market share? Why not popular Android tablets? Adjustable retention tabs?
Frankly, the origami folds look way too complicated to use, and can't be locked in place for optimal touch use, ie if you press on the screen, the whole thing bounces up and down like a bad shock absorber. Apple's tri-fold is the simplest and best. That allows two incline angles (for viewing & typing), which is all you need. You can allow said tri-fold in both landscape & portrait orientations, ie a tic-tac-toe pattern.
>Yes, what about a 500t one?
With a $129 price, OP is right in sticking to high-end toys. I think he can simplify the design and reduce a substantial part of the labor. But for higher volume (for lower margin), he'd need to go to a mass production process anyway.
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Yours is the best reaction I think I've ever gotten from one of my videos! I woke up, Read your review and subsequently woke my girlfriend up Giggling at the thought of the Batcase. Seriously though, "Batman, if you're really out there, I want to make your case!". You know he wouldn't be caught dead with an iPad!
As for the rest of the suggestions and comments.
Hand Strap
There are other cases that have the hand strap. You are the third to suggest a swiveling hand strap. I'll look into it and see if I can find a way to Swivel the hand strap without increasing the thickness of the case too much. Too much is any more than .07".
The Price
The Ativ family of tablets taught me something about price. I initially offered the case for both the 500T and the 700T at $99. I had way more interest for the 500T but way more orders for the 700T. I Think of it like this, If someone were to offer me one of the two tablets for free, I would certainly take the 700t. That said, the people who bought the 500T most likely settled. It's that same decision making that prevents the majority of them from justifying a case that is X11 more expensive than the cheapest case they can get. Not every tablet has a bigger brother to separate out the price conscious shoppers so I'm greatful for having accidentally stumbled into the Ativ family. Though my product has the potential to be much more widely adopted, I am fine with the idea that I can continue making small quantities of hand made cases For a fair and sustainable price. With limited time and resources, it's imperative that I find tablet users that recognize the value in what I do. The very tablet that my potential customers buy tells me something about their decision making. I will never hand make a case for a product that someone has most likely settled for.
Origami Folds
The cover automatically folds into the stand. A child can do this. There's a removably attached Teather that activates this folding mechanism. The auto fold is one of the surprising features of the case. When people see the case in action for the first time They experience some rare form of the Bewilderment that is particularly stronger when they see it in person.. Because it delights people, The case is a lot of fun for show and tell. It is really commonly stated from users that they are giving demos in public places to perfect strangers and loving Or loathing the attention.
The stand has a very minimal amount of spring even before the live hinges are broken-in and is a sturdy enough stand that you would literally destroy the case before it would collapse/bend into an unusable viewing angle.
I couldn't agree less about the trifold being the best or better solution. The trifold is a design that fails to adapt and requires way more energy and attention to actually set up. If you can open a book cover and set something down you can use my case. The structure of the case will naturally adapt whether you're setting it down on a table, a knee, a pile of laundry or an un-even surface of any kind. I have literally had Amputees writing me and telling me that they love my case because they don't need a second hand to use it.
Thanks! And great reply!
Isaiah Coberly