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I've found that on ICS ROM's specific games tend to look much better than on Stock ROM's without much of a sacrifice for general performance. However because the touchpads work better on the Stock ROM's it's usually better to go for one of them!
So, I've been trying to find a way to get similar looks on the Stock ROM's without much of a decrease in performance and with options to revert back if needed with ease.
As many of you may know, Chainfire3D doesn't really bode well with ICS or JB however I've got it running on MarkPython's Stock ICS ROM and I've got several games that would normally look extremely poor with very low textures to now look much better with not much of a drop in framerate!
NOVA 3 for example, looks terrible normally on this ROM. However with Chainfire3D and a plugin or two you can get it to look really good!
That being said, I have gone a little too far currently and made it look so good that it now plays for about 3 seconds before crashing! But hey, that's not the point!
What I'm trying to find out is, what combinations of modifications, apps and other things do you use in order to push your Xperia Play to the limit and get whatever performance it can get?
I guess clock speeds and benchmark results would also be a good thing to post so... I'm running at 1.6Ghz, deadline, performance/smartassV2. Best I've ever managed on Nenamark is 35.9 FPS and I currently have all games on FPSe running at 60fps at all times.
But how is the framerate on NOVA 3? If it's looking that good performance can't be great.
Yeah, on average with the standard textures the game provides you get a fair framerate... Which is somewhat consistant when the textures are higher too.. Hence why i was so confused when they're so low on the Stock ROM but not as bad on CM9.
Which is why i was trying to find the balance between the two with Chainfire3D...
Unfortunately it puts the textures up VERY high and makes the game look great! Downside is framerate is terrible and eventually the game crashes..
However! The Play can hand much better than what is set by the game.. What you're given almost makes my eyes bleed just looking at it.
I want to hear from those who got their hands on the phone as soon as it came out. Have you guys noticed any degrading performance over the updates Google has pushed out? Before I updated, my phone ran games like Vice City like a charm. Now, on 4.2.2, it seems like some performance has been lost. It may not matter to some, but the gaming performance means a lot to me. The random frame dips on games just kills the experience. Have any of you noticed a performance hit? Also, has anyone found a way to make games run smoother? I've tried Cyanognemod 10.1 Nightly and AOKP V3, but neither seemed to push out the performance standard Jelly Bean does. Faux123's kernel, after overclocking, didn't seem to help either.
I haven't noticed any difference i still run GTA 3 and vice city on maximum setting smoothly and i havent noticed any drop in frame rates
I have never played GTA on Nexus 4. But I did play Asphalt 7, NFS MW on both 4.2.1 and 4.2.2 Franco Kernel. Feel no difference.
hence, give FrancoKernel a try?
It's all in the governor.
Alright. What governor are you guys using? I'll give Franco's kernel a shot, but I would rather stick with Faux's after paying for his app and learning how to use it. I have it set up for maximum performance, but it just seems the games aren't running the way they should. For example, I notice that Need for Speed Most Wanted tends to have a large frame dip when nearing other vehicles. It's not something immediately noticeable, but I can see that it almost does a slow motion sort of thing at moments. Also, with Vice City; With everything maxed out, it'll run fine with the camera directly behind the car, or when Vince is running. But should I need to maybe make a slight turn or a large one, the frames drop unbearably.
Use https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.aatt.fpsm app to check the ingame fps.And btw with gta vc on stock 4.2.2 with franko kernel,i get 25-30 fps.
Hi guys,
first of all let me apologize for this stupid question. Personally I hate these questions too, but I have my device in service for 3 weeks, therefore I'm not able to continue with my research...
It's already a long time since I've bought my G2 (D802). Of course, the first thing what I've done > go to custom ROM ... (It's my habit since Xperia Arc S) I think that I was dissappointed of my new LG G2 even then. Games wasn't fluent and lagless as I supposed they should be. It was another good reason to go to the custom ROM. But unfortunatelly and surprisingly it was even worse. So I find another thing why is that so bad. In that time custom ROMS wasnť based on Kitkat sources (kernel), so I hoped that everything will be fine after developers merge source code. But the improvement has never become (in that form I hoped for) In that time I became reconciled that I will never play games on my G2 as smooth as on my iPad.
That's the reason why I'm looking for the best ROM for games. (I'm a heavy gamer)
So my question: Do you know any good rom for Gaming? Could you recommend me something?
I tried Mahdi. PA, Beanstalk, Slim ROM, CloudyStock, Pro, Flex, G3... But none of these ROMs is fine...
(I can't understand how can be Cloudy ROMs so popular (Nothing against Cloudyfa ) because they have too many lags in games !!! I think it's more laggier than stock...
DominikHolecek said:
Hi guys,
first of all let me apologize for this stupid question. Personally I hate these questions too, but I have my device in service for 3 weeks, therefore I'm not able to continue with my research...
It's already a long time since I've bought my G2 (D802). Of course, the first thing what I've done > go to custom ROM ... (It's my habit since Xperia Arc S) I think that I was dissappointed of my new LG G2 even then. Games wasn't fluent and lagless as I supposed they should be. It was another good reason to go to the custom ROM. But unfortunatelly and surprisingly it was even worse. So I find another thing why is that so bad. In that time custom ROMS wasnť based on Kitkat sources (kernel), so I hoped that everything will be fine after developers merge source code. But the improvement has never become (in that form I hoped for) In that time I became reconciled that I will never play games on my G2 as smooth as on my iPad.
That's the reason why I'm looking for the best ROM for games. (I'm a heavy gamer)
So my question: Do you know any good rom for Gaming? Could you recommend me something?
I tried Mahdi. PA, Beanstalk, Slim ROM, CloudyStock, Pro, Flex, G3... But none of these ROMs is fine...
(I can't understand how can be Cloudy ROMs so popular (Nothing against Cloudyfa ) because they have too many lags in games !!! I think it's more laggier than stock...
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What's the definition of "lagless" for you, and what games are you playing?
First of all, you have to realise and acknowledge that this is a smartphone. No matter what, it's still a phone and it's not made for heavy gaming. Second, you have to realise that despite the fact that many developers (ie Gameloft) has a lot of experience with games, they're too lazy too optimize them even for the most powerful chips out there. The games utilise 100% CPU speed even if they don't need it at all, and then the CPU throttles down because it's becoming too hot. Logic/10.
Thirdly, you have to realise that the ROM is not what makes the game fluid or lag-free. It's the kernel.
Since the G2 (like ALL other phones) is cooled passively (it has no fan whatsoever), it's important that it runs as cool as possible to prevent overheating and throttling.
My advice to you would be the following:
Install your favourite ROM and a kernel you can tweak heavily (gpu/cpu). A good bet would be dorimanx.
Go to kernel settings, and chance max frequency to 1.27 Ghz or around that. Change governor to performance.
Change GPU to 450 Mhz.
Try playing a game =)
I used to play Asphalt 8 back when I first got the phone and I got about 30 FPS? Anyway it was smooth as butter, and I see no real reason why you want to put a custom rom on your phone. The good 'ol days where nothing was better than custom roms are pretty much over. Stock is just fine, root it, use a custom kernel if neccessary and use xposed. Will solve it.
vPro97 said:
What's the definition of "lagless" for you, and what games are you playing?
First of all, you have to realise and acknowledge that this is a smartphone. No matter what, it's still a phone and it's not made for heavy gaming. Second, you have to realise that despite the fact that many developers (ie Gameloft) has a lot of experience with games, they're too lazy too optimize them even for the most powerful chips out there. The games utilise 100% CPU speed even if they don't need it at all, and then the CPU throttles down because it's becoming too hot. Logic/10.
Thirdly, you have to realise that the ROM is not what makes the game fluid or lag-free. It's the kernel.
Since the G2 (like ALL other phones) is cooled passively (it has no fan whatsoever), it's important that it runs as cool as possible to prevent overheating and throttling.
My advice to you would be the following:
Install your favourite ROM and a kernel you can tweak heavily (gpu/cpu). A good bet would be dorimanx.
Go to kernel settings, and chance max frequency to 1.27 Ghz or around that. Change governor to performance.
Change GPU to 450 Mhz.
Try playing a game =)
I used to play Asphalt 8 back when I first got the phone and I got about 30 FPS? Anyway it was smooth as butter, and I see no real reason why you want to put a custom rom on your phone. The good 'ol days where nothing was better than custom roms are pretty much over. Stock is just fine, root it, use a custom kernel if neccessary and use xposed. Will solve it.
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Of course that kernel is the most important thing in performance (because of sequencer laws, etc...), but nowadays we have no (except render) custom kernels for AOSP/ CM ROMs, so my question was focused on a ROM → I connected it to the whole... (And furthermore each ROM has own kernel. + ROM can cause lags as well)
used to play Asphalt 8 back when I first got the phone and I got about 30 FPS?
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Unfortunately these times are gone, at least I think it. There were lots of updates, which increase the performance consumption (Simply they add tons of new features and stuff, but they ,,forget" to optimize that... ) I played this game, Dead trigger 2, Dungeon Hunter 4 and even simple games like traffic racer with incredibly high count of lags (And it wasn't lags in miliseconds → not always). I thought it was because of my current ROM (Mahdi) so I tried PA and then stock based ROMs (CloudyFlex, Stock) but nearly no changes) Therefore I think it will be the same on stock ROMs too, if it's on Cloudy ROM with heavily optimized kernel, system... (Even Dorimanx kernel doesn't change anything).
Go to kernel settings, and chance max frequency to 1.27 Ghz or around that. Change governor to performance.
Change GPU to 450 Mhz
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Thanks for this tip, I tried something similar but with UC to 1,9 GHz and I didn't set governor to performance (My device was incredibly hot in a while with performance governor), I didn't notice any bigger changes - I expected that lower frequency will cause even more lags and I was obviously wrong. For sure I will try your advice.... :laugh:
The good 'ol days where nothing was better than custom roms are pretty much over. Stock is just fine, root it, use a custom kernel if neccessary and use xposed. Will solve it
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I don't like the LG's design of system, and I don't like xposed → it causes higher battery consumption and it ,,eats" RAM and performance (At least on my previous device )
i have 10 xposed modules installed and i didn't notice any additional battery decrease...
as for ram, as stated many times - free ram = wasted ram...
as for the thread - "what's the best this&that" threads aren't allowed on xda
i played rr3 and csr racing on this device and didn't notice anything wrong with the framerate (stock kk v20f, rooted with dorimanx kernel on default)
Oddly enough, I haven't noticed a major change in gaming performance coming from the S4 Pro. Asphalt 8 specifically is buggy, sluggish, etc on my LG OG & G2, but I don't care for android gaming since the apps aren't optimized (too many HW configs, whereas iOS is just SGX & Ax chips).
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First of all, I like to say that we lacked similar threads, so OP started an useful topic. I would have stayed with simple dual-core smartphone, but I bought G2 in November for a reason, to try new games and so on, I woudn't have bought it if I needed a phone only for texting and browsing, like many argue like this. What I observed is that, 2,3 Ghz for a phone with passive cooling is a nonsense because after few minutes of gaming it will keep running like 1,5 Ghz and lower, hell what's the use of those 4 cores if a device would burn out. I never owned an apple product, but on my colleague's 5S, they run very smooth and fast with same graphics on a dual-core, so it all goes to optimazing and not using these ridiculous frequencies. I was expecting a lot from a phone like that, sorry for a long post.
Can someone help me to figure out why i'm getting these ridiculous benchmark points in Graphics 3D, i've tried every ROM of this forum, and i can't get more than 7500 points at 3D, when the normal is 15000 +.
Yeah, i know that it's just numbers blablabla, but i want my numbers back ! .O btw, the performance in games decreased at least 40% (in the better scenario) in all games... the overall performance of the ROM it's great, opens the apps very faster and the ROM is smooth and flawless, but this overall GPU performance it's driving me nuts.
(Yes, i already have tried to do a clean flash, dirty flash, to install the BOB4 bootloader + modem, to do factory reset, and the Economy Mode wasn't never turned on the benchmarks) but none of these "solutions" worked for me.)
Some will say that this is bad optimization by Samsung but i have seen another benchmarks from other members of this forum and they are getting high scores, like 52k +...
Thanks so much !.
Hi, i'm looking for a good rom for gaming and general use (texting, calling etc) I want it to be able to handle games like Mortal Kombat X (at a playable frame-rate)
Currently i'm running on an old build of Optimized CM13 (Which of course is called LineageOS, but i have an old build so it's still Cyanogenmod) I have also tried Game Booster apps but they don't make that much of a difference.
Try an AOSP ROM, not LineageOS. CyanogenMod never tested the code they threw into the source, leading to lots of bugs and a general slowness for LineageOS.
I'd recommend you try GLTools or Screen Shift.
Screen Shift can reduce the resolution of your screen, thus improving performance. And yes, it actually works. I'm using it to play Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Links. Without Screen Shift the game is really laggy, not unplayable but not smooth either, with Screen Shift it it's a lot better and smoother. The lowest resolution I recommend, without having black bars, is 480x854.
GLTools kinda does the same, but it also has more advanced options like emulating another CPU/GPU.
It allows you to reduce the graphics and resolution to improve performance or you can also increase them if your phone's is capable of running it smooth at such high settings (which is not the case for you I guess).
I myself am using Screen Shift. GLTools doesn't seem to make any difference to my game at all.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
Try an AOSP ROM, not LineageOS. CyanogenMod never tested the code they threw into the source, leading to lots of bugs and a general slowness for LineageOS.
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Ok thanks.
Pwnycorn said:
I'd recommend you try GLTools or Screen Shift.
Screen Shift can reduce the resolution of your screen, thus improving performance. And yes, it actually works. I'm using it to play Yu-Gi-Oh Duel Links. Without Screen Shift the game is really laggy, not unplayable but not smooth either, with Screen Shift it it's a lot better and smoother. The lowest resolution I recommend, without having black bars, is 480x854.
GLTools kinda does the same, but it also has more advanced options like emulating another CPU/GPU.
It allows you to reduce the graphics and resolution to improve performance or you can also increase them if your phone's is capable of running it smooth at such high settings (which is not the case for you I guess).
I myself am using Screen Shift. GLTools doesn't seem to make any difference to my game at all.
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Thanks for telling me about these tools! will check them out later. GLTools sounds good, hope it'l work for me.