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cases,any recommendations ?

just took delivery of my touch hd and i would like to keep such an attractive phone in as good a condition as possible id rather not have a leather one (there a bit to much imho) but any input would be fantastic.
on a separate note this is a superb source for info and general stuff to throw on your htc,i could spend days just searching through threads.

hi, see the accessories section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=454

galaxys said:
hi, see the accessories section: http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=454
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never mind the cases,i better get some glasses before the case.thank you.

See the best available case, cheap enough to afford glasses with it as well
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462552
Thanks.

I'm ticked off there isn't a lanyard eyelet on the HD.

Lol-x said:
I'm ticked off there isn't a lanyard eyelet on the HD.
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really ? i have never used a lanyard on any mobile phone.thanks for all the replys anyway

The silicone rubber skins seem a good way to protect the HD from scratches and small drops, as they have enough thickness to absorb a bit of shock.
On the other hand, they do make it look a bit chunky, but not in such a really bad way.
They are incredibly cheap on Ebay. I bought two for only about 3 UK pounds, and they are quite well finished, which seemed great value.

fasty said:
The silicone rubber skins seem a good way to protect the HD from scratches and small drops, as they have enough thickness to absorb a bit of shock.
On the other hand, they do make it look a bit chunky, but not in such a really bad way.
They are incredibly cheap on Ebay. I bought two for only about 3 UK pounds, and they are quite well finished, which seemed great value.
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Do you mind giving us a link where you bought it from?
BTW, I have used silicone cases before and some are not very good since they attract a lot of dust and fluff from your clothes... Is this the case with the one you bought?
Many thanks and seasonal greetings to all!

this cheap silicon case is recommended !
pictures + link can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3028842&postcount=34
and no problem with dust or fluff or...

ez2remember said:
Do you mind giving us a link where you bought it from?
BTW, I have used silicone cases before and some are not very good since they attract a lot of dust and fluff from your clothes... Is this the case with the one you bought?
Many thanks and seasonal greetings to all!
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My silicone cases came from an Ebay seller called "cheapgadget".
Postage to UK was free (obviously, watch out for inflated postage from far east sellers)
They were shipped from the UK and it took about 3 days. Each one is individually cellophane wrapped and was nice and clean on arrival.
The accessory holes all align well and they fit closely but not unduly tight.
I've not really noticed a problem with muck sticking to them, but they do have a slight "dead flesh" texture so I could understand that bits of lint from clothing might tend to stick to them. But they are easy to slip on and off without stressing anything, I would probably wash one while the other was in use.
- Steve

Replacing Z1 screen

Does anyone know how to remove the front glass of the Z1 screen as mine has cracked. I can see that a replacement front glass can be bought for around £35 on ebay.
Ive replaced iphone front screens simply by following youtube vids. However, I cannot find any for the Z1. Is the Z1 screen glued on like the Z or is it a different construction.
Can anyone point me in the direction to a guide.
Thanks

Ukbondraider said:
Does anyone know how to remove the front glass of the Z1 screen as mine has cracked. I can see that a replacement front glass can be bought for around £35 on ebay.
Ive replaced iphone front screens simply by following youtube vids. However, I cannot find any for the Z1. Is the Z1 screen glued on like the Z or is it a different construction.
Can anyone point me in the direction to a guide.
Thanks
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVALfBNvpOA
Happy new year!

TagEHeuer said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVALfBNvpOA
Happy new year!
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It's not so easy like SE X1 or Atrix , but not so hard too.
But lack of heater may be a problem
What temperature should be to peel it off?

zigory said:
It's not so easy like SE X1 or Atrix , but not so hard too.
But lack of heater may be a problem
What temperature should be to peel it off?
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Just use a hairdryer? There is no perfect temperature, just heat it up. This may help... it's similar but remember this video is the Xperia Z, not the Z1.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfXaze8AS2o

Be careful with the videos on youtube for a screen replacement. Many of them was made with already opened devices, that its why the screens seems come out very easily but for real is not that simple. I did this to my HTC and I cry nights and days. Also forget the waterproof feature after doing this.

To get the waterproof feature back you need a press. Somebody had posted sony service docs here a month or so back.
The hardest bit i think will be the sealing part, changing the glass, provided you have prior experience won't be too difficult.

iFixit OnePlus One Teardown

iFixit finally got their hands on a OnePlus One to tear it down.
To make things short:
Score 5/10
Battery connector is under a screwed on plastic panel, bit of a hassle.
The worst thing: the LCD and the digitizer glass are one module, replacement will probably be expensive.
Source:
wwwDOTifixit.com/Teardown/OnePlus+One+Teardown/26484

Rindermulch said:
iFixit finally got their hands on a OnePlus One to tear it down.
To make things short:
Score 5/10
Battery connector is under a screwed on plastic panel, bit of a hassle.
The worst thing: the LCD and the digitizer glass are one module, replacement will probably be expensive.
Source:
wwwDOTifixit.com/Teardown/OnePlus+One+Teardown/26484
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So it is not that much repair friendly....
I m interested in changing the battery by some easy way...

Mnt-XDA said:
So it is not that much repair friendly....
I m interested in changing the battery by some easy way...
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While having to unscrew a few screws isn't a comfortable way to change the battery, it isn't that hard.
Warranty loss shouldn't be a problem since the battery's decay shouldn't (hopefully) be that bad within that timespan.
I'm much more worried that a new display glas will be 200€, like with the Galaxy S3.

Rindermulch said:
iFixit finally got their hands on a OnePlus One to tear it down.
To make things short:
Score 5/10
Battery connector is under a screwed on plastic panel, bit of a hassle.
The worst thing: the LCD and the digitizer glass are one module, replacement will probably be expensive.
Source:
wwwDOTifixit.com/Teardown/OnePlus+One+Teardown/26484
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I fixed it for you...
https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/OnePlus+One+Teardown/26484

I have definitely seen much more difficult devices to repair, and have repaired more difficult devices. The Oneplus doesn't seem so bad. It's a shame that the battery is a bit of a pain but like Rindermulch said we hopefully won't have to worry about it too much.

First cracked back panel

It seems there is no end to the z5 misfortunes. For me, it's like 5 min I decide to order the compact, then I read another piece of bad news. Then I think it can't be that bad and what other choice of compact waterproof phone do I have, then I read another piece of bad news, and so on. Anyway, Verge reports a cracked back panel. Looks just like my z3 compact.
www.theverge.com/2015/10/8/9480135/sony-xperia-z5-broken-glass-back
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The Z5C doesn't have a glass back, so happy days.

radjad said:
The Z5C doesn't have a glass back, so happy days.
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Yes it does, frosted glass.

Both sides need to have plastic or temped protection cover
㊙Send from somewhere on the earth™ ?

Its normal you hear all this negative stuff because first thing that people do is when they find something negative and see if the problem can be fixed. When the phone is working fine those people dont care to write a topic or comment.

RiTCHiE007 said:
Its normal you hear all this negative stuff because first thing that people do is when they find something negative and see if the problem can be fixed. When the phone is working fine those people dont care to write a topic or comment.
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That's very true but it also doesn't mean that it is not happening often. There were lots of reports with the z3 series. I was hoping that this spontaneous crack issue would be solved
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Although in this case it is unclear if it was spontaneous or not. He reports that he has an iPhone dock with metal edges on his desk and wonders if the phone might have landed partly on it at a bad angle.
Mind, cracks should still not happen even under such conditions. But it is something different than cracking on its own - this you can at least try to prevent by being careful and/or using a case.
O course, IMO a glass back is still a workbook example of form over function. I much much rather have a "non-premium" plastic back and not having to worry about the back side breaking than the reverse situation.

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Although in this case it is unclear if it was spontaneous or not. He reports that he has an iPhone dock with metal edges on his desk and wonders if the phone might have landed partly on it at a bad angle.
Mind, cracks should still not happen even under such conditions. But it is something different than cracking on its own - this you can at least try to prevent by being careful and/or using a case.
O course, IMO a glass back is still a workbook example of form over function. I much much rather have a "non-premium" plastic back and not having to worry about the back side breaking than the reverse situation.
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Yea dont know why they like to bash on sony while it could be a user that doesn't know his stuff. We all know them people at the verge are never happy with a phone unless its a iphone.

well, we had bend gate with an iphone and we have glass gate with z5c - its food for haters

RiTCHiE007 said:
Yea dont know why they like to bash on sony while it could be a user that doesn't know his stuff. We all know them people at the verge are never happy with a phone unless its a iphone.
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Or it could be a real issue. It certainly was with the Z3c. I quite often do not agree with the reviews on verge, but automatically disqualifying something because it is posted on that site is a bit too much like fanboyism for me.
Also, someone who is "putting a phone on a table so it accidentally lands at a bad angle on another object" is for me very much not "a user that doesn't know his stuff". Sorry, but a phone which cannot take *that* without getting damaged simply has a design error.
Lets wait an see. It could be an isolated incident or it could be like with its predecessor something relatively common. I for my part will wait till at least Christmas before I but a Z5c. I really want for it to succeed - because if it doesn't we can probably say goodbye to any good android phones sub-5" - but I won't buy it if I have to be afraid it gets damaged each time I do not handle it with kids gloves.

I'm definitely a Sony Xperia fan boy. I love the compacts. I wish they would make compact waterproof phones forever. But even I confess the z3 compact cracked back panel was not just a Crackgate. It was very much real. I really hope it won't be an issue for my soon to order z5 compact.
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tudork said:
I'm definitely a Sony Xperia fan boy. I love the compacts. I wish they would make compact waterproof phones forever. But even I confess the z3 compact cracked back panel was not just a Crackgate. It was very much real. I really hope it won't be an issue for my soon to order z5 compact.
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new one still seem waterproof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0X2jSk_5uKY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEpNfOZ_vx4
And i got my z5c today to replace my z3c and i love it! The fingerprint scanner is such a win!

Well I just absolutely annihilated the backing on my two week old z5c.
Carrying boxes, slipped from thigh height onto cement and now looks like a bomb site.
Spiderweb cracks across half the back, glass splinters coming out everywhere.
I know concrete = bad but at least my RAZR m I'm writing from survived that for over a year, including concrete drops, before I put a case on it.
But Christ that back glass is anything but tough.
For the love of god either have insurance or put a case on it. This phone is slippery in any circumstance and one hard surface will ruin your day.
Hoping Sony will be helpful with repairs when I call tomorrow.
Love my phone, hate that they made it this fragile

_Aj_ said:
Well I just absolutely annihilated the backing on my two week old z5c.
Carrying boxes, slipped from thigh height onto cement and now looks like a bomb site.
Spiderweb cracks across half the back, glass splinters coming out everywhere.
I know concrete = bad but at least my RAZR m I'm writing from survived that for over a year, including concrete drops, before I put a case on it.
But Christ that back glass is anything but tough.
For the love of god either have insurance or put a case on it. This phone is slippery in any circumstance and one hard surface will ruin your day.
Hoping Sony will be helpful with repairs when I call tomorrow.
Love my phone, hate that they made it this fragile
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be happy its just the back tho because the back is easy to replace.

My z5c back just broke.
Took it in my hand. Did nothing.
Heard a click and there it was.

The upside of glass its alot more scratch resistance from plastic even from aluminium
the down side is more sensitive to high heat\cold changes and hits can stutter it more easily
i'vgot silicon case

Well, my Z5C back glass is now a spiderweb of shattered lines. Questions:
1. Where exactly can I get my hands on the original Sony back cover? Even though I am willing to pay Sony in the US to have it replaced, they are telling me they don't have availability to perform out-of-warranty work. They'll call me when they have availability. (Huh?!?)
2. Is the glass back itself part of the waterproofing membrane? When I watched the tear down video of the Z5C, it appears that there is a plastic membrane on the inside surface of the glass back. My basic inquiry is if the shattered back glass in itself renders the phone non-waterproof, or if it is still waterproof?
Thanks!

StHalcyon said:
Well, my Z5C back glass is now a spiderweb of shattered lines. Questions:
1. Where exactly can I get my hands on the original Sony back cover? Even though I am willing to pay Sony in the US to have it replaced, they are telling me they don't have availability to perform out-of-warranty work. They'll call me when they have availability. (Huh?!?)
2. Is the glass back itself part of the waterproofing membrane? When I watched the tear down video of the Z5C, it appears that there is a plastic membrane on the inside surface of the glass back. My basic inquiry is if the shattered back glass in itself renders the phone non-waterproof, or if it is still waterproof?
Thanks!
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1. Try Ebay. In europe they are around 10€, much cheaper if you order them from china, however i don't think they are all original. Look for the SONY logo in the middle of the glas.
2. I would say yes. The membrane you saw is probably the adhesive of the back panel https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Parts/Sony-Xperia-Z5-Compact-Back-Cover-Adhesive/IF312-102 if the glas is broken inside the adhesive it should be no more waterproof.
However you can test it by yourself:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/general/water-resistant-waterproofing-testing-t3463969

Gewiz said:
1. Try Ebay. In europe they are around 10€, much cheaper if you order them from china, however i don't think they are all original. Look for the SONY logo in the middle of the glas.
2. I would say yes. The membrane you saw is probably the adhesive of the back panel https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Parts/Sony-Xperia-Z5-Compact-Back-Cover-Adhesive/IF312-102 if the glas is broken inside the adhesive it should be no more waterproof.
However you can test it by yourself:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z5-compact/general/water-resistant-waterproofing-testing-t3463969
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Thanks, but I am afraid to order from eBay, because based on seller reviews, there were many people complaining that they either did not get the item after purchase, or the NFC won't work. Many of the sellers blur/censor out the Sony mark. Not quite sure why, but it makes me think that these are not original items.

StHalcyon said:
Thanks, but I am afraid to order from eBay, because based on seller reviews, there were many people complaining that they either did not get the item after purchase, or the NFC won't work. Many of the sellers blur/censor out the Sony mark. Not quite sure why, but it makes me think that these are not original items.
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Never had problems on ebay, sometimes on aliexpress. But till now, everytime when the order didn't arrive, i got a full refund without any problem. So i think it worth a try.
Of course when a seller blur out the logo its normally a bad sign and i would look for another dealer.

Several Questions after MOTO X FORCE received

I've brought a new MOTO X FRORE from UK (carphone warehouse). Looks great! Will appreciate if anyone can answer me:
1. What's the material of the surface ? Looks like plastic but not glass.
2. Is it possible to disable "google search" as it's the default APP which could not be stopped manually ? Here in my country google service was blocked so nothing it can do but consume the power.
3. When/How can we root MXF ?
4. My MXF's rear is ballistic nylon.. Little hairs, paper was easily attahced to the rear. Anyone has the same experience ? And how to prevent this ?
5. How many people has MXF instead of turbo 2 ?
Tks guys !

1. plastic probably
3. no one knows, we must wait

It's shatterproof kind of plastic screen protector. Bad is that many users and reviewers reported as it easy to scratch. Workaround is to put glass protector on the top of shatterproof protector

franknkg said:
I've brought a new MOTO X FRORE from UK (carphone warehouse). Looks great! Will appreciate if anyone can answer me:
1. What's the material of the surface ? Looks like plastic but not glass.
2. Is it possible to disable "google search" as it's the default APP which could not be stopped manually ? Here in my country google service was blocked so nothing it can do but consume the power.
3. When/How can we root MXF ?
4. My MXF's rear is ballistic nylon.. Little hairs, paper was easily attahced to the rear. Anyone has the same experience ? And how to prevent this ?
5. How many people has MXF instead of turbo 2 ?
Tks guys !
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Congrats on the Force.
#1 Had my dt2 coming on 2 weeks, no screen protector and no scratches. I have been cognizant of keep my phone alone in my pocket.
#2. You can disable the google app by going to settings > apps > google app > disable

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It's shatterproof kind of plastic screen protector. Bad is that many users and reviewers reported as it easy to scratch. Workaround is to put glass protector on the top of shatterproof protector
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I've found mine durable enough so far. I wouldn't put it in a pocket with keys or a coin (although I wouldn't do that with gorilla glass either) but it's lasted my days so far. Face down on a table, or using it outside in a dusty area like a construction zone. No scratches so far. Doesn't seem to be a delicate as made out to be at least.

Moto should (if not already) offer top layer replacement. Probably will be more expensive than laternative from Amazon or ebay.

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Moto should (if not already) offer top layer replacement. Probably will be more expensive than laternative from Amazon or ebay.
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Yeah they have it on their site here. 30 bucks though. But it is an exact fit, whereas I don't think Amazon would have something that fits like this would. Wonder if this one includes the Verizon logo or if this is an X Force/Turbo 2 universal piece that doesn't have the logo.

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Yeah they have it on their site here. 30 bucks though. But it is an exact fit, whereas I don't think Amazon would have something that fits like this would. Wonder if this one includes the Verizon logo or if this is an X Force/Turbo 2 universal piece that doesn't have the logo.
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They even made video how to replace it, cool. I didn't see an logo on the video but do you really wish to have Turbo 2 without Verizon logo?

Zeljko1234 said:
They even made video how to replace it, cool. I didn't see an logo on the video but do you really wish to have Turbo 2 without Verizon logo?
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It doesn't really bother me to be honest. I don't mind the logo, even though I thought it looked atrocious when it was first revealed. In fact I forgot it was even there. I meant it more for the other people who couldn't stand it.

Honestly I would like to see soft buttons instead logo or smaller bezels.

I have same phone... I like screen so far it doesn't seem to pick up as much grease a gorilla glass..
Not sure if I'll keep it yet though but much better than bb priv

I too have the MXF got it from the same place Carphone Warehouse on the 21st, excellent phone best decision i made for a phone since i got the htc desire in 2010

Mine arrived yesterday. Built in moto. Screen scratches easier than GG but loving the unbreakability factor. Wouldn't recommend the leather. Wish I had gone for the grippy soft backs as the leather is a bit slippy on car dashboard hehe. Battery life awesome in standby but when used it drains as fast as other phones but I can get a full day of heavy use so all good. Not sure I like lack of IR blaster and also no fingerprint reader but I'll see how I adapt
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