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So, is it possible to root Defy w/o killing wifi-calling? Know this has been discussed but cannot seem to find a definitive answer. Thanks.
I don't think the problem is 'rooting'. There were some attempts to bring the t-mobile wifi calling to custom rom's. But there is no Defy developer living in America...
So you can only have it on the T-mobile sbf. Rooting shouldn't be an issue.
scrannel said:
So, is it possible to root Defy w/o killing wifi-calling? Know this has been discussed but cannot seem to find a definitive answer. Thanks.
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Not sure if I understand the question but I'm using CM9 (and of course I'm rooted) and I'm using Viber for wifi-calling and is working flawlessly. Cheers!
spidykwya said:
Not sure if I understand the question but I'm using CM9 (and of course I'm rooted) and I'm using Viber for wifi-calling and is working flawlessly. Cheers!
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Thanks for the replies. Wifi-calling accesses the provider's cell network via wifi. It's similar to UMA, though does not allow hand-off. The t-mo USA Defy version of 2.1 and 2.2.1 comes with the app pre-installed. Relativey few carriers currently support it (which is a main reason I'm with t-mo, essentially free calls when overseas etc.). So, I don't want to lose it by changing ROMs.
http://revolutionwifi.blogspot.com/2011/10/kineto-smart-wi-fi-calling-on-t-mobile.html
Recently Tmobile finally started filtering their data and are attempting to prevent all users no matter the ROM or software on the phones from tethering their laptop to the phone.
As soon as you tether and try to view a webpage on your laptop, you will get redirected to a sales page, where TMobile tells you that you need to purchase an additional feature for $15 USD a month. This is outrageous considering you already pay for a certain ammount of data per month, and as long as you remain within that they are just being greedy and are nickle and diming us.
The workarounds / bypass are detailed here:
http://benbuchacher.com/posts/2012/06/bypassing-tmobiles-tethering-filters.html
Using CyanogenMod 9 I tether just fine...
This just started today for me Ive tethered since cupcake just fine.. There are other reports too using Cyanogenmod or any other ROM will not help you when this rolls out to your area.
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Using CyanogenMod 9 I tether just fine...
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Cm9 here too, still blocked though
We ran into this problem several months ago but were using the LG Optimus T phone for tethering. It ran fine for a day or so and then we started getting the Tmobile message screen to upgrade. We had plenty of gigs left and couldnt figure out why we could no longer tether. We are heading on vacation next month and this will hopefully help us bypass Tmobile's junk. Haven't tried our Galaxy S2's yet so we may be worried all for nothing..
UPDATE: Tethering works great on the S2 thru Tmobile,.,,Hotspot does not. Got a screen on my phone for Tmobile to sign up for it monthly when I searched the Help link...laptop is asking for a Network Key to access the Hotspot...
Try the ClockworkMod tethering app.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.tether
HOW DO I TUNNEL!?!?!??!
I didn't have any trouble using USB or wifi tethering on my bone stock galaxy nexus, but they might not have rolled this system out back then. This is definitely good information though, the wife wants to use this when we're out on business.
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HOW DO I TUNNEL!?!?!??!
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You need a Virtual Private Network or VPN. I can't post links so you'll have to look it up yourself.
So I have a question for you guys...
I understand that I need to switch the user agent on my laptop when tethering, but what about when I tether to something like a Roku box or a Playstation 3?
The reason why only some people are having problems with the tethering is because T-Mobile is including hidden APN settings in the new software updates and the software on new devices. These hidden APNs helps T-Mobile detect tethering. Go to this thread to see what I mean, also you can PM the OP and he can tell you exactly what he had to do, I think he had to decompile the framwork,apk or framwork.jar one and remove them from there I can not remember exactly.
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GROGG88 said:
I will gladly discuss it here... Both Elegancia 3.0.0 and version B of my rom are using resources from 3.32.401.105 in order to achieve two functions:
1. Unlock APNs
2. Provide leedroid tweak compatibility
The only problem with this is the fact that they are no longer "true tmous builds". I refer to them as "franken-builds"... I have not gone through all the differences between framework-res, systemui, framework.jar, services.jar, etc... but I can tell you that certain small bugs have been reported with the xe build that others have reported as fixed in the official tmous version.
The APNs are written to apns.xml within the framework-res.apk. This is why we used XE components to unlock the APNs at first. You can distinguish what roms are built this way by the framework version:
TMOUS: 20120412.202737
XE: 20120321.232857
My unlocking mod is the stock TMOUS framework-res.apk, but it has the apns.xml from XE. This ensures that the rest of the rom stays in tact and that no bugs will be induced by mixed resources... I've also included this mod as an option during install on version A of my rom.
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CapnBoost said:
I didn't have any trouble using USB or wifi tethering on my bone stock galaxy nexus, but they might not have rolled this system out back then. This is definitely good information though, the wife wants to use this when we're out on business.
You need a Virtual Private Network or VPN. I can't post links so you'll have to look it up yourself.
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Can you send in a pm?
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Just so I am clear...the way T-Mobile is doing this is by seeing the user agent of the browser. Since I tether my Galaxy Tab Wifi to my Gnex from time to time I should be in the clear correct? Since I am not using a browser on a laptop, but rather on another Android device.
Thanks for the post, will try this out
Wait...so what if I use a desktop user agent from a mobile browser to grab the full page. That's going to get blocked as well...?
I got that problem with my new Galaxy S2... luckily the rom I flashed took care of that problem.
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Just so I am clear...the way T-Mobile is doing this is by seeing the user agent of the browser. Since I tether my Galaxy Tab Wifi to my Gnex from time to time I should be in the clear correct? Since I am not using a browser on a laptop, but rather on another Android device.
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Just tested. It works on almost all of the UserAgents becauses Chrome/IE/FireFox.. Hell IPad even works. You should be fine for now. I hope they stick to this solution instead of going to more preventive measures because this is easily bypassed.. My Skype/Steam/Trillian/AIM/etc all still connect perfectly even without bypassing because it's only blocking Desktop useragents. The stupidest part of this is requesting the desktop version of sites like on the Google Chrome Android browser results in the blocked page as well.. :|
Nexus S Stock
I have a Nexus S and I have gotten all my updates are via T-mobile OTA updates, however I have never had a problem tethering.
MischievousMrFoxx said:
I have a Nexus S and I have gotten all my updates are via T-mobile OTA updates, however I have never had a problem tethering.
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None of your updates have been from T-Mobile. All those OTA updates came straight from Google. One of the things that ended with the nexus s was that the carriers weren't allowed to really touch the phone at all. As such, T-Mo never sold it in their stores. You could get it at Best Buy, etc, but not at official stores.
I believe this only works if you bought the device from T-mobile right? since i can tether on my iPhone just fine (althought on 2G/EDGE) I can't confirm it with android though, but if they are ruling this all over the network we're gonna have a bad time.
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I believe this only works if you bought the device from T-mobile right? since i can tether on my iPhone just fine (althought on 2G/EDGE) I can't confirm it with android though, but if they are ruling this all over the network we're gonna have a bad time.
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Yeah I'm pretty sure this is with T-Mo-sourced devices specifically (as in, you got it at the T-Mo store or it has the T-Mo logo on the phone itself).
Also, nice South Park reference. ".....you're gonna have a BAD time!"
Current Verizon S3 user here. I have questions that I know are probably premature but I welcome any thoughts and answers.
Thanks in advance for your replies!
I still have the grandfathered unlimited data plan.
I have rooted and custom rom'ed my last few phones so I could have wireless tether for very occasional use (I am rural with a lot of ISP outages).
I am wondering what people think my outlook would be with a Verizon S5.
Will we be able to get root?
Will there be ports of the wifi tether type aps?
Will we be able to get bootloader access?
Would FoxFi work with it (I know they have a warning in their app about potential loss of functionality)?
While I have themed the crap out of my phones I have stayed with Touchwiz on the S3 for the most part, and the S5 touchwiz doesn't look like the worth thing in the world.
The phone has the 2 major features I look for, removable battery and external SD card.
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Current Verizon S3 user here. I have questions that I know are probably premature but I welcome any thoughts and answers.
Thanks in advance for your replies!
I still have the grandfathered unlimited data plan.
I have rooted and custom rom'ed my last few phones so I could have wireless tether for very occasional use (I am rural with a lot of ISP outages).
I am wondering what people think my outlook would be with a Verizon S5.
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While I have themed the crap out of my phones I have stayed with Touchwiz on the S3 for the most part, and the S5 touchwiz doesn't look like the worth thing in the world.
The phone has the 2 major features I look for, removable battery and external SD card.
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Will we be able to get root?
Yes
Will there be ports of the wifi tether type aps?
Yes
Will we be able to get bootloader access?
Perhaps, it will be locked at first.
Would FoxFi work with it (I know they have a warning in their app about potential loss of functionality)?
Perhaps, you should ask the developer of FoxFi.
degast said:
Will we be able to get root?
Yes
Will there be ports of the wifi tether type aps?
Yes
Will we be able to get bootloader access?
Perhaps, it will be locked at first.
Would FoxFi work with it (I know they have a warning in their app about potential loss of functionality)?
Perhaps, you should ask the developer of FoxFi.
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Thank you for your reply!
Good point about asking FoxFi, I will do that. Are there other tether apps out there that don't require root?
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Thank you for your reply!
Good point about asking FoxFi, I will do that. Are there other tether apps out there that don't require root?
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not that I know of. Perhaps someone else knows a few..
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Thank you for your reply!
Good point about asking FoxFi, I will do that. Are there other tether apps out there that don't require root?
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Get Root Access? - Very Likely so yes
Get Bootloader Access - Very UNLIKELY given Verizon's position on "security" and "network integrity" which is just utter BS.
FoxFi and other apps for WiFi Tethering are always out there.
Bootloader exploit, highly unlikely. Though I'm sure it will get the same root/safestrap treament that the S4 and Note 3 both got. At least I seriously hope so anyways If it doesn't I'll be getting the New One instead.
I'm sure things will be easier this time around. I highly doubt we won't achieve bootloader unlock! IMO!
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I'm sure things will be easier this time around. I highly doubt we won't achieve bootloader unlock! IMO!
Sent from my SCH-I545 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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I agree with this and it might happen.
wonderrx said:
Current Verizon S3 user here. I have questions that I know are probably premature but I welcome any thoughts and answers.
Thanks in advance for your replies!
I still have the grandfathered unlimited data plan.
I have rooted and custom rom'ed my last few phones so I could have wireless tether for very occasional use (I am rural with a lot of ISP outages).
I am wondering what people think my outlook would be with a Verizon S5.
Will we be able to get root?
Will there be ports of the wifi tether type aps?
Will we be able to get bootloader access?
Would FoxFi work with it (I know they have a warning in their app about potential loss of functionality)?
While I have themed the crap out of my phones I have stayed with Touchwiz on the S3 for the most part, and the S5 touchwiz doesn't look like the worth thing in the world.
The phone has the 2 major features I look for, removable battery and external SD card.
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I'm in the exact same boat. Does WiFi Tether require an unlocked bootloader or just root access? Does anyone know whether WiFi tether will work on this device once rooted?
I can confirm Foxfi is NOT working. Getting the Call Verizon for tether popup.
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Works for about 1 minute until it recognizes traffic from the Hotspot and then throws up the VZW warning.
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I am glad there is no 32gb model yet, since that along with Foxfi not working is why I am sticking with the S4. Not tempted at all without a 32gb model. My S4 32gb only has 6gb free.
FoxFi
The BT server for Foxfi works on my GS5v tethered to my Galaxy Note 8. I'll have to see how it performs on my laptop so I can work from my car... If it works good, I'll purchase the full version of PDANet+ / FoxFi.
I prefer to use the Wi-Fi tether (treve mod).
Hopefully a root will become available... I'd like to get rid of the bloat and crap.
Hard to say. On the S4, we still have a locked bootloader. Root is likely attainable. Stay tuned.
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Current Verizon S3 user here. I have questions that I know are probably premature but I welcome any thoughts and answers.
Thanks in advance for your replies!
I still have the grandfathered unlimited data plan.
I have rooted and custom rom'ed my last few phones so I could have wireless tether for very occasional use (I am rural with a lot of ISP outages).
I am wondering what people think my outlook would be with a Verizon S5.
Will we be able to get root?
Will there be ports of the wifi tether type aps?
Will we be able to get bootloader access?
Would FoxFi work with it (I know they have a warning in their app about potential loss of functionality)?
While I have themed the crap out of my phones I have stayed with Touchwiz on the S3 for the most part, and the S5 touchwiz doesn't look like the worth thing in the world.
The phone has the 2 major features I look for, removable battery and external SD card.
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I can confirm that Foxfi works on the Galaxy s5. The free version only gives you 15 minutes of wifi thether so it is better to buy the full version. That what I did. I really don't care me about root, just want my wifi tether. :laugh:
So I just purchased the 6P and I have a few weeks to wait for it's arrival.
Was curious if there is a way to alter the build.prop so that I can use my 6P as a WiFi hotspot without keeping the phone rooted. Verizon doesn't allow me to use my phone as a "hotspot" with my Unlimited Data Plan, so I've always had to use an xposed module or something to deactivate the subscription check. My hope is that I can deactivate this check then unroot my phone.
I don't want to be fully rooted on a daily basis because I am hoping to use Android Pay.
Hotspot works out of the box without any build.prop edits.
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Hotspot works out of the box without any build.prop edits.
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Can confirm. Not sure why, however, I'm not complaining.
joderme said:
Can confirm. Not sure why, however, I'm not complaining.
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Wait... So you guys have been using VZW tethering out of the box with no subscription pop-ups??
If this is true.. :good::good::good:
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Wait... So you guys have been using VZW tethering out of the box with no subscription pop-ups??
If this is true.. :good::good::good:
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There was another thread were Verizon users on unlimited data confirmed. I'll have mine Thursday so I'll check as well.
personally i've seen mixed reports. i'm beginning to wonder if there were a "later" batch of SIMs issued that forced some VZW bloatware to be installed. i'm not sure if these rumors were true or not, as this will be my first non-vzw device.
as for the OP - if you end up needing to edit the build.prop, you can unroot after making the changes.
I have had mine since Friday and I can confirm that you can use the built in hotspot function with my unlimited data package with no pop up at all. It just works. I don't know why but I am not complaining like said above.
Great news, thanks guys!!
Now if we could just get November 18-20 here faster...
I'll have to avoid XDA all together as the draw of custom ROMs could cause me to abandon Android Pay, but tethering and no root is great! Only other thing I use root for on my MotoX is Greenify which should be nullified by Doze.
PSA: First thing you do with your phone, unlock your bootloader! Regardless of rooting or not, you want the flexibility to not have to wipe your phone if you choose to root.
I spent the better part of yesterday reinstalling everything because I chose to finally root. Android Pay works with root, you just have to disable Superuser to add payment methods.
Tethering also works with Verizon out of the box. I have unlimited data and not paying for hotspot.
Got mine today. UDP on VZW. Tethering works right out of the box. It's GLORIOUS. Used to Android pay to pick up six pack at the liquor store tonight. This may be the first phone I DON'T root LOL. I've rooted EVERY phone I've had. Who knew it would take a Nexus NOT to root HAHAHAHA
Seriously Tethering is the first reason for rooting. There are many others....but Tethering was my main reason. With it working out of the box....I'm going to let the Devs. work their magic before I go near messing with it. I left my wallet at home, but saw the wireless pay at the register....cha ching!
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Got mine today. UDP on VZW. Tethering works right out of the box. It's GLORIOUS. Used to Android pay to pick up six pack at the liquor store tonight. This may be the first phone I DON'T root LOL. I've rooted EVERY phone I've had. Who knew it would take a Nexus NOT to root HAHAHAHA
Seriously Tethering is the first reason for rooting. There are many others....but Tethering was my main reason. With it working out of the box....I'm going to let the Devs. work their magic before I go near messing with it. I left my wallet at home, but saw the wireless pay at the register....cha ching!
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not only that but some adblocks work without root as well. i've become used to nine as my exchange email client, so replacing the exchange.apk isn't even necessary any longer.
i might start looking in to theming again, however, since M natively supports it.
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personally i've seen mixed reports. i'm beginning to wonder if there were a "later" batch of SIMs issued that forced some VZW bloatware to be installed. i'm not sure if these rumors were true or not, as this will be my first non-vzw device.
as for the OP - if you end up needing to edit the build.prop, you can unroot after making the changes.
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Well my nexus 6 is non-vzw (it even says it on their website under myverizon) and it has never allowed me to tether.
I had to root and rom to get it to work.
Cares said:
PSA: First thing you do with your phone, unlock your bootloader! Regardless of rooting or not, you want the flexibility to not have to wipe your phone if you choose to root.
I spent the better part of yesterday reinstalling everything because I chose to finally root. Android Pay works with root, you just have to disable Superuser to add payment methods.
Tethering also works with Verizon out of the box. I have unlimited data and not paying for hotspot.
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Even with an unlocked bootloader we need to wipe to root. I guess this may change in the future.
Cares said:
PSA: First thing you do with your phone, unlock your bootloader! Regardless of rooting or not, you want the flexibility to not have to wipe your phone if you choose to root.
I spent the better part of yesterday reinstalling everything because I chose to finally root. Android Pay works with root, you just have to disable Superuser to add payment methods.
Tethering also works with Verizon out of the box. I have unlimited data and not paying for hotspot.
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are you sure you put android pay in after you rooted? I haven't seen it worked for anyone who actually rooted the phone. some who put it in before they rooted got it to work??
johnp357 said:
are you sure you put android pay in after you rooted? I haven't seen it worked for anyone who actually rooted the phone. some who put it in before they rooted got it to work??
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Use the temporary unroot in SuperSu.
I installed and configured after my phone was rooted.
I can use Android Pay just fine.
All I do is temp unroot.
tech_head said:
Use the temporary unroot in SuperSu.
I installed and configured after my phone was rooted.
I can use Android Pay just fine.
All I do is temp unroot.
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thanks... strange that it works for some and not others... just like anything else I guess...
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tech_head said:
Use the temporary unroot in SuperSu.
I installed and configured after my phone was rooted.
I can use Android Pay just fine.
All I do is temp unroot.
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out of curiosity, did you use a systemless root ? like with chainfire?
This is the first phone I have bought that is not a Verizon phone of some kind. I just ordered a XL tonight from Google store. Said I would have it Thursday. I am coming over from the Turbo. Been a good phone for the last 2 years. I will unlock the bootloader, looks easy enough. Will this have a hotspot app? For now the only thing I want is too unlock and get the hot spot to work. Is it called something different? Maybe I just don't know what I should be looking for. Maybe someone could point me in the right direction. I don't mind reading.
Thanks
smooth781 said:
This is the first phone I have bought that is not a Verizon phone of some kind. I just ordered a XL tonight from Google store. Said I would have it Thursday. I am coming over from the Turbo. Been a good phone for the last 2 years. I will unlock the bootloader, looks easy enough. Will this have a hotspot app? For now the only thing I want is too unlock and get the hot spot to work. Is it called something different? Maybe I just don't know what I should be looking for. Maybe someone could point me in the right direction. I don't mind reading.
Thanks
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Please read through the threads before creating a new one. This question and methodology has been answered many times already for the Pixel. Use the search feature built into XDA. Thank you
smooth781 said:
This is the first phone I have bought that is not a Verizon phone of some kind. I just ordered a XL tonight from Google store. Said I would have it Thursday. I am coming over from the Turbo. Been a good phone for the last 2 years. I will unlock the bootloader, looks easy enough. Will this have a hotspot app? For now the only thing I want is too unlock and get the hot spot to work. Is it called something different? Maybe I just don't know what I should be looking for. Maybe someone could point me in the right direction. I don't mind reading.
Thanks
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There is the mobile hotspot that you can use but with VZW it checks to see if you've paid for the tethering subscription. With a rooted device there are a few ways to bypass the subscription check and use the hotpsot for free.
smooth781 said:
This is the first phone I have bought that is not a Verizon phone of some kind. I just ordered a XL tonight from Google store. Said I would have it Thursday. I am coming over from the Turbo. Been a good phone for the last 2 years. I will unlock the bootloader, looks easy enough. Will this have a hotspot app? For now the only thing I want is too unlock and get the hot spot to work. Is it called something different? Maybe I just don't know what I should be looking for. Maybe someone could point me in the right direction. I don't mind reading.
Thanks
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What plan do you have with Verizon? If not on an unlimited plan, hotspot functionality is baked into the OS and works seamlessly.
TechBSwift said:
Please read through the threads before creating a new one. This question and methodology has been answered many times already for the Pixel. Use the search feature built into XDA. Thank you
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Thanks for taking the time to read my post. And your reply was very helpful. I hope in the future if I may need any help you will be right there again.
xocomaox said:
What plan do you have with Verizon? If not on an unlimited plan, hotspot functionality is baked into the OS and works seamlessly.
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Thanks for your reply. I do have still an old Alltel plan with unlimited data. Some other people here I see have missed the main question I have. Maybe I did not ask it right. I have never owned a non Verizon phone. I don't have my new phone yet. I think it ships today. Does it have an app on it for hotspot? Is it called this still on non Verizon phones? Maybe I am making more of this then needed. I just did not know if this was a Verizon thing or phone thing.
Really all I want to do with this is unlock it and make a hot spot work. I'm not going to do much else with it. From reading here before I bought the phone it seemed a good move to buy from google then from Verizon.
Thanks for the help.
Hotspot is built into the rom. You toggle/adjust it just like Wi-Fi or Bluetooth in the settings menu an/or pulldown shade.
However, if you're on a Verizon unlimited plan then it won't work unless the build.prop is edited. You can do this with a file explorer, using a build.prop editor app (my preference), with adb, or by installing a rom that already has the edit made. You can search the forum for those instructions. I'm in the same situation as you and have hotspot working.
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Hotspot is built into the rom. You toggle/adjust it just like Wi-Fi or Bluetooth in the settings menu an/or pulldown shade.
However, if you're on a Verizon unlimited plan then it won't work unless the build.prop is edited. You can do this with a file explorer, using a build.prop editor app (my preference), with adb, or by installing a rom that already has the edit made. You can search the forum for those instructions. I'm in the same situation as you and have hotspot working.
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Thanks you. I will do some reading on this. In my turbo all I did was make a change in the build.prop file. I just did not know if anything would change with non Verizon and newer software on the phone. I paid a long time ago for SQLite so once I'm unlocked and rooted this should work I hope. I have some reading to do.
Thanks again.
smooth781 said:
Thanks you. I will do some reading on this. In my turbo all I did was make a change in the build.prop file. I just did not know if anything would change with non Verizon and newer software on the phone. I paid a long time ago for SQLite so once I'm unlocked and rooted this should work I hope. I have some reading to do.
Thanks again.
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The hotspot feature is a part of Android. It does, however, check your carrier subscription to see if hotspot functionality is allowed on your plan upon launching. This is why I asked about data plan earlier.
I hope it works for you, otherwise there are workarounds (root and non-profit methods) available on this forum. Good luck!