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Hi,
Many custom ROMs, like CyanogenMod, AOKP, Slim etc. are ROMs made for a wide range of devices, and are therefore not suited perfectly for the Nexus 4. These ROMs are great, of course, but after flashing lots of them I understood I want a ROM that is made specifically for the Nexus 4, as I think they would function better.
For example, I understood there is a thing called Krait optimization and I don't believe any of the ROMs I listed above have it.
I would appreciate if anyone could recommend such a ROM,that is also very customizable (well it is a Nexus...). I'm talking in a CM + AOKP level of customization
From my searching I have found two ROMs, would also appreciate if you could give me opinions about them/compare them:
PACman ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146879
PUB - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146885
Thanks!
you are looking for any aosp(android open source project) based rom, based on pure android. the nexus 4, as well as all other nexus, are aosp devices. rasbean jelly is one of the best, if not the best http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028025
aokp is good man...there is no difference
I guess you should understand that all of the Roms you have mentioned are actually built from the Nexus Software. PAC and PUB are basically offshoots of AOSP /AOKP /Cyanogen / Paranoid. The nexus is the test bed, if you will. These ROMS are specifically for our phone, built from our phones ROM, with additions in order to better them. That is as straightforward of an answer as I can get you. You should give ALL of the roms a try and see what fits your taste best, hope this helps.
TheeWolf said:
Hi,
Many custom ROMs, like CyanogenMod, AOKP, Slim etc. are ROMs made for a wide range of devices, and are therefore not suited perfectly for the Nexus 4. These ROMs are great, of course, but after flashing lots of them I understood I want a ROM that is made specifically for the Nexus 4, as I think they would function better.
For example, I understood there is a thing called Krait optimization and I don't believe any of the ROMs I listed above have it.
I would appreciate if anyone could recommend such a ROM,that is also very customizable (well it is a Nexus...). I'm talking in a CM + AOKP level of customization
From my searching I have found two ROMs, would also appreciate if you could give me opinions about them/compare them:
PACman ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146879
PUB - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146885
Thanks!
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Pac(Vertigo & Blue) has Linaro, Krait, and whatever the A15 patches are called(memspy?).
Thanks everyone.
simms22 said:
you are looking for any aosp(android open source project) based rom, based on pure android. the nexus 4, as well as all other nexus, are aosp devices. rasbean jelly is one of the best, if not the best http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2028025
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I have to say that in my opinion, this ROM looks somewhat unprofessional. Its not that I tried it, but I can't understand the basic things from the OP as I should, for example the ROM's features, bugs, screenshots...
[email protected] said:
I guess you should understand that all of the Roms you have mentioned are actually built from the Nexus Software. PAC and PUB are basically offshoots of AOSP /AOKP /Cyanogen / Paranoid. The nexus is the test bed, if you will. These ROMS are specifically for our phone, built from our phones ROM, with additions in order to better them. That is as straightforward of an answer as I can get you. You should give ALL of the roms a try and see what fits your taste best, hope this helps.
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Yes but I mean that all these ROMs are ports. Cyanogen, for example, exists for almost every device out there. Look at its changelog, you'll see every bit of change incorporated in the ROM's version for every device. What I mean is, they have not done anything (correct me if I'm wrong) to optimize their ROM for the Nexus 4. The ROM exists and functions the same for the S1, the Galaxy Nexus, the Nexus 4 and the HTC Sensation. Again, I may be wrong so correct me if this is the case.
Ace42 said:
Pac(Vertigo & Blue) has Linaro, Krait, and whatever the A15 patches are called(memspy?).
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Vertigo is the username of the Pac ROM developer as I can see. Is there a version of a developer Blue? I don't really understand.
And what is memspy?
the information is there, screenshots arent needed. but you should stay with cm then, if youre looking for an op and not a rom.
anyways, you do realize that all the nexus 4 roms are built from source? there no need to port roms to any nexus since all the sources are available for every nexus. so to say, all nexus roms are built specifically for the nexus 4, even cm. just because a rom exists on multiple devices, doesnt mean that its ported. most non nexus roms are ported to non nexus devices because they dont have sources available. this doesnt happen to nexus devices.
this is identical with a thread i remember seeing in the gnex forums a while back. anyways, they are all made for the nexus 4. they use drivers that are specific to our phone. if you flash it on another device, it wont work. AOSP is AOSP, that's the point of it. you won't get any extra device specific features if a rom is only built for the nexus 4 vs cyanogenmod which is out for a bunch of phones. the only way that happens is if your phone has a hardware feature another one doesn't ie: NFC.
TheeWolf said:
Hi,
Many custom ROMs, like CyanogenMod, AOKP, Slim etc. are ROMs made for a wide range of devices, and are therefore not suited perfectly for the Nexus 4. These ROMs are great, of course, but after flashing lots of them I understood I want a ROM that is made specifically for the Nexus 4, as I think they would function better.
For example, I understood there is a thing called Krait optimization and I don't believe any of the ROMs I listed above have it.
I would appreciate if anyone could recommend such a ROM,that is also very customizable (well it is a Nexus...). I'm talking in a CM + AOKP level of customization
From my searching I have found two ROMs, would also appreciate if you could give me opinions about them/compare them:
PACman ROM - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146879
PUB - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2146885
Thanks!
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Hi. There are many things to argue here is this post but I will try to help to get you some information to get you on the right track. First off there are two versions if you will of Android, one being "AOSP" or the "Android Open Source Project" and "Google Android". Google Android is what shipped with your device, and has Google owned proprietary in it that is closed sourced, most of the development done in a Nexus forum will come from using AOSP Android. Its the same Android that ships with your device but it does not contain any of Google's proprietary and its completely open-source, however some of the coding needed for a specific devices hardware is not open-source, there's more I can go into on that but I'll stop in short by saying the Nexus4 is probably one of the best devices to be working on platform level coding since all of the binaries needed are properly licensed and most of the hardware coding is open-source. So now that's out of the way. Most of the roms here are forks of AOSP with some being forked from AOKP, CyanogenMod and PA, in order for a developer to build a Nexus4 rom they have to use the provided hardware binaries in combination to the software coding to produce said roms, so ALL of the roms here are built directly for this device. Where confusion come in at is that some of the developers do not have a Nexus4 and build based of the availability of someone being a guinea pig. Also you will have to know whats in you device, such words as "krait optimizations" should not be a hook to get you to try a rom nor should a screen shot since most of the roms look stock besides the few that are themed, ok if they're themed they probably should have a pic, but seriously know your hardware so that you are not just letting a buzzword give you a placebo effect, and remember a roms OP most times doesn't do any justice for the experience you will have from that rom so its best to just try what ever sounds interesting blindly...
TheeWolf said:
Yes but I mean that all these ROMs are ports. Cyanogen, for example, exists for almost every device out there. Look at its changelog, you'll see every bit of change incorporated in the ROM's version for every device. What I mean is, they have not done anything (correct me if I'm wrong) to optimize their ROM for the Nexus 4. The ROM exists and functions the same for the S1, the Galaxy Nexus, the Nexus 4 and the HTC Sensation. Again, I may be wrong so correct me if this is the case.
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you can't really optimize a rom for a specific device.
they are nearly the same for all devices, and there is no point in optimizing it for specific hardware.
what you can optimize is the kernel, the part that contains the device specific drivers and basically controls the hardware. these are already built and optimized for the nexus 4.
but that doesn't mean that fixes and improvements for other devices have negative effects on the nexus 4.
also, device specific changes in changelogs are mostly kernel related.
TheeWolf said:
Thanks everyone.
I have to say that in my opinion, this ROM looks somewhat unprofessional. Its not that I tried it, but I can't understand the basic things from the OP as I should, for example the ROM's features, bugs, screenshots...
Yes but I mean that all these ROMs are ports. Cyanogen, for example, exists for almost every device out there. Look at its changelog, you'll see every bit of change incorporated in the ROM's version for every device. What I mean is, they have not done anything (correct me if I'm wrong) to optimize their ROM for the Nexus 4. The ROM exists and functions the same for the S1, the Galaxy Nexus, the Nexus 4 and the HTC Sensation. Again, I may be wrong so correct me if this is the case.
Vertigo is the username of the Pac ROM developer as I can see. Is there a version of a developer Blue? I don't really understand.
And what is memspy?
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Dude, first try and test a rom before you form and vent your opinion based on nothing.
Thank you everyone for the explanations.
gee2012 said:
Dude, first try and test a rom before you form and vent your opinion based on nothing.
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As I have said, I have already flashed many ROMs, I am not basing my opinion on nothing. I have not opened this thread is not to find out "what is the best ROM" - more than a year of messing with Android and being here in XDA got me understanding there is no such thing, no best ROM. The purpose of this thread is get me some answers, to see if what I am saying is even true.
If Cyanogenmod is the same for every device then riddle me this:
Why is there a different .zip for each device?
You are not going to find a better all around ROM than CM dude. In CM each device has its own tree with many device specific commits and custom changes. You sound very ill-informed asking the questions you are asking; I am surprised you haven't received a lot more flame for it.
Just a question.. but since we are seeing CM for other variants, is there a chance we will see one for Verizon 995?
THanks!
Bleeds
I had read on XDA that Cyanogen was cancelling the CM project and will be starting a new one for a universal ROM or something.
If true and if I'm understanding it all correctly, then the 995 will eventually get the new project, but who knows when that could be.
bleeds said:
Just a question.. but since we are seeing CM for other variants, is there a chance we will see one for Verizon 995?
THanks!
Bleeds
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most likely it won't be too much longer and you'll see some popping up. Albinoman and Zion (the guys doing the lineage based roms for the H918) have said they will build roms for the vs995. I think right now they are working on getting things as stable as possible and once that is accomplished they will port the ROM to the other models.
Are there any AOSP or stock Google Android ROMs out there for the S8? I'm not keeping my hopes up because I owned the S7 Edge ever since it came out and it never really came through. The reason I am asking is because I just found out there's a MultiROM tool for the S8 and I'd like to take advantage of that. If there aren't any AOSP ROMs, what are the lighest, most de-bloated TouchWiz based ROMs out there that feel like stock? I'm currently on BatMan ROM and it will be my primary ROM and I am looking for a light second.
Thanks!
There are no aosp roms yet.
Why is it that it takes so long for AOSP ROM's or Lineage based ROMs to come out for exynos devices? I'm just curious because Samsung released the kernel source for the exynos variants. I might be just asking a noob question but I'm curious what's involved in making a AOSP ROM for these devices.
TacoTuco said:
Why is it that it takes so long for AOSP ROM's or Lineage based ROMs to come out for exynos devices? I'm just curious because Samsung released the kernel source for the exynos variants. I might be just asking a noob question but I'm curious what's involved in making a AOSP ROM for these devices.
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Kernel development, porting, baking, bug fixes before release. There are a lot of steps involved that need someone decently motivated to take.
MansonDroid said:
Kernel development, porting, baking, bug fixes before release. There are a lot of steps involved that need someone decently motivated to take.
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do you know if any one working on aosp rom for the s8 ?
imzaki1994 said:
do you know if any one working on aosp rom for the s8 ?
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I'm willing to bet a few developers might be messing around with Lineage/AOSP. You have to consider the fact that there has never been an Exynos device running AOSP straight from Samsung. They have to build Android from the ground up for Exynos devices instead of just rooting and adding tweaks.
AOSP based roms for SnapDrgaon phones are a dime a dozen. Developers can look into other phones for bug fixes and common issues. With exynos, the developers have to fix bugs with no preexisting knowledge base to draw from. Besides what they know from Touchwiz Android builds.
Give it some time. The longer the phone has been out for the more hands it gets into. Especially when discounts are put out.
what is wrong with Samsung. every phone or tablet I get from them never gets updated. i have the tab a6 sm-t280
and everytime someone makes a post about this tablet, it gets ignored. i need you people to develop a custom rom for it something!! even android 6.0 would be better. Samsung is literally release a product and forget about it.
Maybe try looking at how much development there is for a device before you buy it.
I always first look here if there is at least development happening before I buy something.
All my devices got from Samsung at least 2 major upgrades and the rest thanks to all the developers here or on other forums
AndroFluffy said:
what is wrong with Samsung. every phone or tablet I get from them never gets updated. i have the tab a6 sm-t280
and everytime someone makes a post about this tablet, it gets ignored. i need you people to develop a custom rom for it something!! even android 6.0 would be better. Samsung is literally release a product and forget about it.
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First of all, the T280 is an OLD tablet and NO maker upgrades one that old. Second of all, there ARE later ROMs made by these NON PAID VOLUNTEERS for the T280. If you are too dumb to find them, that's YOUR PROBLEM, not Samsung's or the people in this forum.
there are no roms. and i am not dumb
there is 1 rom and its based on the stock rom and same android os.
AndroFluffy said:
there is 1 rom and its based on the stock rom and same android os.
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I see 6 roms on page 1 of the search result alone, and I didn't even check the other pages: https://forum.xda-developers.com/search/forum/5868?query=T280
They might not be NEW roms but then again that tablet isn't new either. As long as the roms still work that doesn't really matter anyway.
You have to remember that ALL rom development is done by unpaid volunteers, none of them owe you anything. If you're not happy with the available roms then why not learn to build one yourself? Or switch to a newer device - but next time check before buying one how active the development is for it.
AndroFluffy said:
there is 1 rom and its based on the stock rom and same android os.
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There are several ROMs, and if you aren't dumb, why can't you find them?
lewmur said:
There are several ROMs, and if you aren't dumb, why can't you find them?
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you really need a heavy reading lesson, please, do it, for your own sake, these roms are for sm-t285. not for sm-t280. all the sm-t280 roms are the same os and based on the stock rom.
those roms are for sm-t285. not t-280
double post sorry,
HI everyone
I'm currently running LineageOS17 in my Shamu, but i'm wondering if there is a faster or smother room for the device
I'm really happy with LineageOS actually, it's just curiosity, I read that it's HavocOS, somebody can confirm?
Many thanks!
Pilsener said:
HI everyone
I'm currently running LineageOS17 in my Shamu, but i'm wondering if there is a faster or smother room for the device
I'm really happy with LineageOS actually, it's just curiosity, I read that it's HavocOS, somebody can confirm?
Many thanks!
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All ROMs use LineageOS's shamu kernel and device code, so you won't see much of a difference.
I've used several Android 10 ROMs, including LOS, and have settled on crDroid because it has a lot of customisation (though in itself that's normal) but also Face Unlock, which I really like. Other ROMs may also have it - I haven't checked. Overall I agree with Elektroschmock - since they use the same code base you'll find it difficult to find huge differences. They have all been stable for me - just Face Unlock made the difference for me, but I reckon you'll be happy with pretty much any one of them.
Edit after three days. Right, that's it for me. I'm taking my own advice. This is definitely the last time I'll offer any help or support to a junior member. I'm done with their lack of interest in answers.
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I've used several Android 10 ROMs, including LOS, and have settled on crDroid because it has a lot of customisation (though in itself that's normal) but also Face Unlock, which I really like. Other ROMs may also have it - I haven't checked. Overall I agree with Elektroschmock - since they use the same code base you'll find it difficult to find huge differences. They have all been stable for me - just Face Unlock made the difference for me, but I reckon you'll be happy with pretty much any one of them.
Edit after three days. Right, that's it for me. I'm taking my own advice. This is definitely the last time I'll offer any help or support to a junior member. I'm done with their lack of interest in answers.
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Because someone doesn't reply doesn't mean they have no interest .
I feel like XDA would be more active if there is a Discord. Reddit is also a good resource that has taken over the popularity of sites
dahawthorne said:
I've used several Android 10 ROMs, including LOS, and have settled on crDroid because it has a lot of customisation (though in itself that's normal) but also Face Unlock, which I really like. Other ROMs may also have it - I haven't checked. Overall I agree with Elektroschmock - since they use the same code base you'll find it difficult to find huge differences. They have all been stable for me - just Face Unlock made the difference for me, but I reckon you'll be happy with pretty much any one of them.
Edit after three days. Right, that's it for me. I'm taking my own advice. This is definitely the last time I'll offer any help or support to a junior member. I'm done with their lack of interest in answers.
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Oh no! Sorry, It really does interest me! I'm still using LOS17, I just wanted to read another user experiences with different roms! That's all. Thanks for your answer, und danke to Elektroschmock for keeping Shamu alive! :fingers-crossed:
I'm just wondering how ROMs are classified into 2 subforums NEXUS 6 ORIGINAL ANDROID DEVELOPMENT and NEXUS 6 ANDROID DEVELOPMENT
for me, I tend to like ROMs in 1st sub cause it is original. but havocs is also very good though lol
ponichia said:
I'm just wondering how ROMs are classified into 2 subforums NEXUS 6 ORIGINAL ANDROID DEVELOPMENT and NEXUS 6 ANDROID DEVELOPMENT
for me, I tend to like ROMs in 1st sub cause it is original. but havocs is also very good though lol
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if i want to put my build in original android development forum i can but i like android development forum
ponichia said:
I'm just wondering how ROMs are classified into 2 subforums NEXUS 6 ORIGINAL ANDROID DEVELOPMENT and NEXUS 6 ANDROID DEVELOPMENT
for me, I tend to like ROMs in 1st sub cause it is original. but havocs is also very good though lol
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AmirHRC said:
if i want to put my build in original android development forum i can but i like android development forum
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For clarification why there are two different forums:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2112240
So "Android Development" is the right place for most ROMs as the only thing they do is rename some LineageOS stuff.
Elektroschmock said:
For clarification why there are two different forums:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2112240
So "Android Development" is the right place for most ROMs as the only thing they do is rename some LineageOS stuff.
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lol Why are you so excited? and yes ican post my android 11 build and you can take device tree and rename some stuff ?
AmirHRC said:
lol Why are you so excited? and yes ican post my android 11 build and you can take device tree and rename some stuff
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I was just answering his question.
I was answering with Android 10 ROMs in my mind.
If you do a proper Android 11 bringup for shamu, it would be justified to post it in original development.
And Yes I would use your repositories - thats the spirit oft open source. But I suspect they are in a state where it's better to keep them closed as I do with mine.
I love full gestures in Android 10, so I tried several roms to find the smoothest one with full gestures on: Lineage, crDroid, Pure Pixel, Carbon. All with original kernels, nanoGapps and some 20 apps of mine installed.
The smoothest performance over time I found with Pixel Experience, using Lawnchair2 as a home launcher.
Cheers
PS: all of them roms run super smooth if you do not use full gestures, and each has its super nice tweaks
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I love full gestures in Android 10, so I tried several roms to find the smoothest one with full gestures on: Lineage, crDroid, Pure Pixel, Carbon. All with original kernels, nanoGapps and some 20 apps of mine installed.
The smoothest performance over time I found with Pixel Experience, using Lawnchair2 as a home launcher.
Cheers
PS: all of them roms run super smooth if you do not use full gestures, and each has its super nice tweaks
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update:
moved to Arrow os androdid11 (by amazing AmirHRC, thanks!), same quick response with gesture navigation, plus no glitches, super. Beware you will loose the google camera with its nice HDR. Up to you..