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Awhile back I was banned from the Motorola Forum. I had the audacity to repost a post that Fletch333 had moved to an area where I thought it wouldn't be seen by as many people. I had posted that the only way the SD card would ever work in the Xoom would be if they came here and learned how to root their Xoom and install a different kernal.
Fletch333 didn't like that.
So he sent me a note that he had moved it so I replied and wished him a hearty FU and reposted it and immediately got banned.
I post this because this morning I stopped by the Motorola Forum to see if anything new was happening and saw a post by Matt where he said people get warned several times before being banned and THAT ISN'T TRUE.
It was my first " offense " if reposting is an " offense " under the TOS.
Fletch333 hadn't even been identified as a moderator at the time to my knowlege and I was surprised to find he had been given the power to move posts and ban people.
Someone who has post priviledges at the Motorola Xoom forum might want to remind Matt that Arizona Willie was banned for a first offense without warnings.
Of course, that would probably get you banned.
Never speak truth to power.
So you broke the rules by posting something about rooting outside the unlocking part of the forum, you then re posted it and broke the rules again, and then insulted a fellow member (regardless of moderator status or not), breaking the rules for a third time and you are surprised they took action?
I don't agree with a lot of the stuff I see from mods of the Motorola forums but I have to say that's a bit more than a "first offence".
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Hey, I would just say, I would reccomend that you be careful what you say as you don't want to get banned again. We need forum users, so before your banned be careful what you say. This is a device forum, not a gossip forum.
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This calls out specific members on the Motorola forum, and is not allowed here. I understand everyone's fear in conspiracies, but this is not the avenue to pursue that line of thought...
Thread closed. Sorry.
As a member of this forum it is with a heavy heart I have to refer people to the rules posted. Specifically rule number 5 which stating members should post a message only once. This i believe means not only once in the chosen forum but means not to cross post either. It is time consuming and tedious to read messages posted across various threads and clutters the website.
Thanks for taking time to read this and the rules at the url below
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7199177
Have a nice day
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Well yes i agree but its better to report such posts to a mod .
This post will do nothing to stop the multiple posters they just don't care and want fix my phone now or you show me how to install a rom i don't want to read how .
jje
I don't want to report people! I believe we should be willing to give people the benefit of the doubt and offer to show a better way first, then report if necessary. We were all new here once and didn't know the rules.
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I don't want to report people! I believe we should be willing to give people the benefit of the doubt and offer to show a better way first, then report if necessary. We were all new here once and didn't know the rules.
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You actually should report posts/threads that break the rules. Usually if the person is not someone that does it often nothing will happen except they will be reminded of the rules unless they are someone who constantly is breaking the rules then they will get either an official warning or an infraction. We would rather people report posts/threads
Welcome to XDA... just kidding. But yeah, what graffix said.
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I don't want to report people! I believe we should be willing to give people the benefit of the doubt and offer to show a better way first, then report if necessary. We were all new here once and didn't know the rules.
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If someone breaks the rules then they should be reported whether they are new or not. The rules should be read when you join so not knowing the rules is no excuse.
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because making a thread about the rules while linking another thread about the rules.......is how we should really do things.
Booooooooooo
Oh, come on. Hardly anyone will read this.
Reporting posts that violate any rule, written or unwritten, is actually helping the mods. Even if they are up to their asses with reports, it helps them if you report every single post that you feel violates any rule.
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You actually should report posts/threads that break the rules. Usually if the person is not someone that does it often nothing will happen except they will be reminded of the rules unless they are someone who constantly is breaking the rules then they will get either an official warning or an infraction. We would rather people report posts/threads
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As someone who has been around XDA for a while, I've noticed that over the past year or two this doesn't seem to be the case so much anymore. I hate to be so negative, but lately it seems that the simple "report this post" or even PM's directly to the moderator do little good. In many cases, it takes a person to stick their neck out and publically and LOUDLY post the problem before it's handled. Yes, I've done it several times.
I have my own opinions on why this is happening, but those opinions would probably be better discussed in another forum.
What would be nice would be if XDA Moderators would find a set of rules and enforce them across all subforums in regards to all users. Currently, it seems like if 5 people do the exact same thing wrong, 3 will have their thread locked, 1 will get an infraction, and 1 won't even get a warning.
Take care
Gary
^^^^^^........tells moderator how to do his job
All i can say is i try not to post a rude comment and report every post that i feel is against the rules to a mod . Have to say action is taken on the majority .
Looks like mods are rather busy and have another life outside of modding XDA .
Noticeable also that its not the noobs posting wrong posts but users with 50 - 100 posts .
jje
i report posts/threads frequently, a mod has always actioned it within a day at most...i cant fault the reporting tool
But i aslo agree that more people need to actually read the rules...how you get that to happen, i dont know...
Hi
My name is Tom and I'm one of the new moderators here. I like post-rock music, cooking and ROM making. If you have some issues/questions, please PM me and I'm sure we'll find a solution.
Some rules:
0. Follow the rules.
1. Post in the correct section
2. Respect each other
3. Report when you'll see some abusive posts.
See you soon
Hi, I'm Kenny and I like long walks on the beach......what? Oh, it's not that kind of intro? Oh OK.
Well hi all I have the distinct honor of sharing the Moderator roll here and hope to help keep this new forum fun for all.
I am honored to be your Friendly Neighborhood Moderator.
To keep me friendly though please do not get into flaming matches. If someone is disrespectful please mash the report button rather than engage them further. In other words don't feed the trolls.
Also please post questions in Q&A. Those are the biggies.
I have put out a few themes and ROMs for the Epic 4G so know what it is like from the developer side. So please respect the developers. Without them xda-developers would be xda-facebook or something.
Thank you all!
FNM
Hi everyone,my name is Tasos and i have been assigned to be your new Forum Moderator along with Tom and Kenny.
If you have any problems don't hesitate to pm me siberian tiger
And don't forget the rules
Please review the rules and lets keep XDA the best place for fellowship and development.
And remember we are all here to have fun
This thread can now be used as a "Ask a moderator" thread. You can post your questions, concerns here. We will gladly help
Welcome aboard
Any news on future development for this device? Is this device a world seller?
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Welcome aboard
Any news on future development for this device? Is this device a world seller?
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Welcome
Just give Chainfire or some other developer some time to root this device. As it's Samsung, rooting it shouldn't be too difficult (I guess )
And yes, you can buy SIII Mini almost everywhere.
I was wondering if the rooting will allow cell unlock.
I am asking this to know what to do: wait for root or go to a Samsung service for cell unlock.
root will not unlock the device, but I wish some great devs will developing for this S3 mini, wich is a very great phone imho
Hello all,
I just wanted to introduce myself. I'm graffixnyc and I have recently been assigned to help moderate the forum. If you guys have any issues please do not hesitate to let me know. As always, please follow the rules and treat each other with respect.
as much as i would like to believe that the rules follow some logical flow and understanding and are in place due to experience and historical events that have taken place on the XDA forums
i have a small issue with the rule of not being able to post in the developer section until having made 10 posts
from my experience in doing some small dev work i would not want to be harassed directly for help with a solution that i provided
i would not want to be getting several PM's asking the same question from several different people all because they were not able to post their question on the thread where i provided the solution
since we are unable to post in a thread our questions or suggestions that leaves only one place to be able to post, the Q&A section
leading to the risk of multiple duplicate posts and resulting in more work for the moderators to clean up
what would be the correct way to get around this issue whilst still following the rules?
This post is designed to promote proper forum etiquette. There has been a distressing trend in the XDA forums of laziness, impatience and rudeness. My goal is to curtail this and help promote the environment that XDA was designed to be.
A fun place for different people of varying technical experience to get together and learn from each other and to encourage out of the box thinking and design.
In order to accomplish this we, as a community must follow certain guidelines and have certain understandings. The following list is by no means all inclusive and in the true spirit of XDA, I welcome ANY and ALL constructive comments or additions.
1.The XDA forums are NOT a funded, company driven organization.
a. The participants are other people generally like you, with jobs, families and Outside XDA (OXDA) lives. Remember that and try to treat them as such.
2.You are NOT entitled to anything.
a. If a developer creates an App or ROM or Kernel (ARK) and freely distributes it, remember that. FREE. Nothing is really for free. That individual spent his/her time in the development of that ARK and is either looking for feedback or simply enjoying sharing it with the community
b. You may feel negatively about that ARK, that’s OK. Ensure to voice your concerns in a CONSTRUCTIVE way or don’t voice them at all.
c. Don't hassle the OP about release dates of ARKs. They will share with the community when they feel it's ready and not before. If they didn't, they'd be opening the door to lots of criticism and "Halp! this is Broken!" (<-- Franco used that first I think ) type comments.
3.NOT EVERYONE is on the same technical level as you.
a. There is no need to be rude or condescending to someone who has less knowledge than you.
b. By the same token, if you have less knowledge than those in the topic you've chosen to join, it’s always a good idea to remark on that if you ask a question; you may receive a more precise answer the first time.
c. If you've received an answer from someone via PM or figured it out on your own… SHARE it with the community. Chances are someone else has that issue also
4. ***REMEMBER THE 5 MINUTE RULE*** The 5 minute rule, as it applies to conversations, states that “You must be a part of a conversation for at least 5 minutes prior to asking a question.”
a. This same rule applies in forums as well. Read at least 10 pages or 2 days’ worth of posts PRIOR to asking a question.
b. There is little more that will set off seasoned forum members that the save question being asked 2 or 3 pages in a row because someone figured they would just “Pop on” and ask a question in the first topic they thought was appropriate.
5.Google Search Does Work.
a. No one likes to help those who don’t help themselves.
b. If you’ve found your way onto the XDA forums site, you understand how Google works. Use it to search for your answer first. You might be surprised by how easy it is to find an answer.
6.Most devices have a General Question and Answer (Q&A) Topic.
a. Use this if resource if your question is Off-Topic (OT).
7.READ THE OP.
a. The OP (Original Poster) is the individual who creates a thread. Commonly OP is the term used for the first post(s) on the first page of a thread, such as this one. I'll be referring to the common definition of the initial few posts.
b. A lot of the redundant posts have already been answered in the OP.
c. Failure to read the OP (+ the other initial post by the Topic’s creator) often leads to post after post of members saying the same thing…READ THE OP.
8.Betas and Alphas.
a. Often apps in development will be released in the forums as Beta or Alpha (Test) software.
b. Test software MAY DO HORRIBLE THINGS TO YOUR DEVICE. This is not likely but understand that if you participate in test programs, the author does not have any responsibility for any damage caused to your device.
9.Paid APPs.
a. An author may offer a paid version of his/her app(s) on the Play Store. The author may also have a Topic on XDA for that app.
b. Here is where the water gets murky.i. You have paid real money for a bit of software, and therefore expect a reasonable amount of support.
ii. Often that support can and does come from other forum members.
iii. If your problem is still not resolved, don’t get snippy with the forum members, rather contact the developer directly (usually through their email from the play store).
10.DON’T FALSELY BOLSTER YOUR PROFILE.
a. Most members of Topics are subscribed to many other Topics. You may see them there too.
b. Creating a second profile or using a friend to “Thank” your posts undeservingly is not only underhanded but other members will realize what you are doing. This is also against XDA Forum Rules. Perpetrators will be caught and banned.
c. There is no benefit to having eleventy-billion thanks if you have nothing of value to contribute.
d. YOUR PROFILE WILL BUILD AS YOU BECOME MORE ACTIVE IN THE FORUMS. This is not a video game where reaching Recognized Developer will afford you riches beyond compare. It’s actually useless if you lied and schemed to get there.
11.Vulgarity & Rudeness.
a. There is no need to be vulgar (in any language) on XDA.
b. The forum members are a community of Men, Women, Teens and some really intelligent Sub-teens . Foul language is neither constructive nor appreciated.
c. What is the point of being rude, either to your fellow XDA-ers or to the OP. Please don't feel that anonymity grants you license to be rude or disrespectful.
d. Due to the multiple countries & languages involved, it is nearly inevitable that someone will take something the wrong way, I have. Try to curb the natural lash out reflex and probably you'll find more of a language barrier than someone who was intentionally trying to be rude.
12.Ignored Private Messages (PMs).
a. Some developers and more senior members don’t/rarely respond to PMs from people they don’t know.
b. Often they have hundreds or thousands of people who use their ARK and cannot hope to respond to all via PM. Some of these (NRGZ28, Franco Francisco, Romanbb, WugFresh…), are so busy constantly making their ARK better for YOU, they often don’t have time to pop in on their own threads as much as the user would like. THAT IS THE STRENGTH OF XDAs MEMBER COMMUNITY. Use it appropriately and you will prosper. Abuse it and you might find yourself shunned.
13.Posted Pictures.
a. We love PROOF, as a community. With all the slag on the Internets™ and the Googles™ (TM George W. Bush) we are often skeptical. That being said, it is not necessary to post every screen shot of your battery life, signal strength etc..
b. If it is not possible to describe your issue or if your issue requires a visual aid, great, use it.
c. If it isn't necessary, use a Dropbox account or the like and share the link. This accomplishes the following..
i. It reduces the storage load on XDAs servers.
ii. It minimizes clutter in threads making it easier for people to follow guideline #4 and for others to locate what they need
iii. It reduces Data usage for people using cellular data to browse XDA.
14.Stay on Topic.
a.If the conversation strays too far from the topic you will give new people the wrong impression and clutter up the post with unrelated conversations. Little jokes are OK and a pleasant break but if the conversation has veered too far from the OP topic, it’s best to either form a new topic for that discussion, find the topic in which it belongs or continue via PM, Email, G-chat etc.
15. Don't Forget to Hit Thanks!
a. If someone has helped you, in a PM or in a thread, hitting "Thanks" shows them & others you appreciate their efforts and adds to their DESERVED status.
I welcome all new members and look forward to helping anyone that I can. Please remember, this list was not created out of malice but out of respect for this community and to aid new members in adjusting to our way of life, so to speak. .
Thank-You for all the suggestions, please feel free to continue to make our XDA better!
thanks for putting this together... you may just want to note, OP is the Original Poster, not the first post...just sayin'
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thanks for putting this together... you may just want to note, OP is the Original Poster, not the first post...just sayin'
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Thanks, I actually didn't know that's what it stood for. I do know that the OP is what the first post is commonly referred to. I'll add it.
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Great write up OP
One suggestion - at 10 b) Add not to create more than profile as it's against forum rules and will get all accounts banned.
"I don't care if you're the next Chainfire or just some random spammer. If you can't make 10 posts, you shouldn't be on XDA."
awesome write up....now if people would actually read it and follow it... they read the XDA forum rules and seem to forget it 5 minutes later
another suggestion would be not to ask for ETAs of ARK..im sure alot of devs get sick and tired of seeing all the people asking for
ETAs thier threads
ps.....i put a link to this thread in my sig
if its not ok with you i will remove it
OP Updated with member suggestions.
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thanks for putting this together... you may just want to note, OP is the Original Poster, not the first post...just sayin'
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OP refers to Original poster or Original Post as the statement or sentence intends it to be!
No compulsions! just saying!
@Op (here I mean Original poster)
Very well written wish now every new user bothers to have a good read before posting!
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Id like some kind of loophole in #11 please... it seems to be a new cultural flaw to pretend to be offended at anything and everything.
It's easy to complain when you don't have to prove anything.
Please allow for puns.. Word plays.. Inuendo etc.. or at least require some kind of verification.
It's the Internet, not kindergarten.
We have all kinds here..
Bring your own Purel...
If you're here, I suspect you're good with computers and therefore know who built the Internet..
I'd really like to say that I know the local youth minister will pop in here and not get anywhere complaining about all the "OMG" posts
(I'm a former youth minister.. I can say that)
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thanks for putting this together... you may just want to note, OP is the Original Poster, not the first post...just sayin'
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Actually, I believe that it references Opening Post, not Original Poster. Oftentimes, folks are directed to the OP (Opening Post) to answer questions originally posted in the first post of the thread.
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Actually, I believe that it references Opening Post, not Original Poster. Oftentimes, folks are directed to the OP (Opening Post) to answer questions originally posted in the first post of the thread.
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It's both original post AND original poster.
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it doesn't actually matter, we all know this, right? and we've had 3 replies about it, so now let's make it 4
http://www.internetslang.com/OP-meaning-definition.asp
I noticed that this thread/OP has been linked to in people's signatures, and rightly so. But it does not seem to refer to two common breaches of etiquette, namely asking what is the best rom and asking for thanks button presses. Although the last might need qualifying by "instead of posting thanks".
Great job though:good::good:
What would u guys say is the best 4.4.2 Rom feature and battery life wise? I used to love paranoid android on my gnex, but I can't seem to find a 4.4.2 version for this phone. I also wanna keep the knock on feature, I love it. Thanks guys!
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What would u guys say is the best 4.4.2 Rom feature and battery life wise? I used to love paranoid android on my gnex, but I can't seem to find a 4.4.2 version for this phone. I also wanna keep the knock on feature, I love it. Thanks guys!
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Best threads are usually frowned upon as it's really a matter of personal preference.
To answer about Paranoid, you must not have searched much/at all.. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2502789
Haha sorry I'm kinda knew to the site. But thanks for your help buddy!
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So under the vs980 folder on the downloads, it only shows 4.0 alpha and beta downloads. Are there any 4.4.2 roms?
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Yes but they are all unstable. The Paranoid is still beta version and the Cyanogenmod is still nightlies version.
However both of them are great but for daily use the Paranoid is more stable than the Cyano.
The Cyano has also a lot of things that doesn't work good for now.
What r some good stable 4.4.2 rooms that still have the knock on feature and quick remote? And preferably pie and halo
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Paranoid 4.0+
Depends on you, i like Slimkat, mahdi and paranoid, all then is very good
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justin.pavsek said:
What would u guys say is the best 4.4.2 Rom feature and battery life wise? I used to love paranoid android on my gnex, but I can't seem to find a 4.4.2 version for this phone. I also wanna keep the knock on feature, I love it. Thanks guys!
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Welcome to XDA
Please read this post....
soupmagnet said:
Hello, and welcome to the forum,
Before you click the "New Thread" or "Post Reply" buttons, please take the time to read some rules/guidelines for posting in this forum:
1) Read and follow the Forum Rules:
Plain and simple. No further explanation needed
2) Post your message in the proper subforum (see above):
All questions, requests, and help & troubleshooting needs, go in the Q&A Help & Troubleshooting subforum, if one exists for your device, and any misplaced messages will be promptly moved to their respective location. Users that make it a habit of posting in the wrong forum will be addressed accordingly. If you're unsure of where your post or thread belongs, please read the Forum Rules again.
3) No off-topic discussion:
While some Moderation Teams may allow some off-topic discussion and the creation of off-topic threads, we do not. There is an entire General Off-Topic forum devoted to this type of discussion and there are enough threads already available to meet anyone's off-topic needs. All off-topic threads, and posts containing off-topic discussion, will be deleted promptly and without warning. If you're concerned with the amount of off-topic discussion and misplaced questions in the Development forums, please consider making a Q&A Thread for your ROM/Kernel/Project/etc.
4) No threads or posts asking for the best/most stable ROM/Kernel/Mod/whatever, or created for the purpose of comparing Phones/ROMs/Kernels/Mods/whatever:
These threads/posts will be deleted promptly and without warning. They have a history of causing problems due to trolls, and fanboys, along with various troublemakers, and therefore are no longer allowed. Regardless of that, there is really no way to judge whether or not a particular piece of work is better than another because it's all relative to begin with. If you want to know what piece of work is better for you, install something and try it out for a while. If you don't like it, try something else. Our Developers work hard to provide us their contributions, free of charge. Please show them the respect they deserve by trying something out and giving them your feedback.
5) Don't ask for an ETA (Estimated Time of Arrival):
Asking for an ETA is the XDA equivalent of telling a Developer that the free work they do just isn't enough for you. It usually comes across as rude and/or demanding, and most developers will take offense to it. Even if a particular Developer doesn't mind being asked for an ETA, there are many that do, and there's a good possibility that it will incite arguments in the forum. In the end, it's just best to avoid doing it altogether. If you have no other choice but to ask for an ETA (i.e. the work you're doing absolutely depends on it), then please, do it through a private message and keep it out of the public forums.
6) Keep your signatures at a respectable size:
While members are given a great deal of freedom in creating personalized signatures, it is expected that this freedom is not abused. Abnormally large signatures are obnoxious to most users and they tend to be a major distraction from the topic at hand. If your signature is double the size of an average post or larger, expect be asked to change it. If you're not sure whether the size of your signature is within the respectable limits, feel free to contact a member of the Moderation Team that is assigned to this forum for clarification.
7) Be nice:
It's not that hard. If you can't say something nice to someone, don't say anything at all. If you feel the need to respond negatively to someone, please refer to #8.
8) Report all violations of the aforementioned rules/guidelines and DO NOT respond to them in the open forum:
If you happen to notice a rule violation, use the "Report Post" button in the upper right hand corner of the offending post, or send them a polite reminder through private message so they may resolve the problem on their own (for minor violations of course). Please do not respond to posts that are in violation of the rules in public. Regardless of the fact that it leaves more work for us to do when cleaning the forum, responding to them in public only compounds the issue and it puts you at risk of getting in trouble yourself. Moderators have much more effective ways of dealing with these situations than by arguing back and forth and disrupting the entire conversation, so please, let us handle it.
If there are any questions or concerns regarding this or any other matter, please feel free to contact a member of the Moderation Team that is assigned to this forum. You can find a list of the assigned Moderators at the top of each sub-forum page.
With that, here are a few great threads to help you get the most out of your experience here...please take advantage of them:
Get the most out of XDA!!
How to make a good THREAD, POST, QUESTION or POLL
Why you get short/one word answers! (The Long Answer)
How to give constructive feedback to developers
How To Logcat
GPLv2 tips for developers
Getting a moderator's help
And as always...
Thank you, and have a great day!
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