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Is that any posible to port the beats audio to defy??
kiyo6654 said:
Is that any posible to port the beats audio to defy??
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Can't say it's impossible but currently, no dev is interested in this.
You can request them, but as far as I think, it's a big NO.
having beats audio would only be useful if you have the corresponding ear phones. fyi
beats audio installer is in Google Play
I dont know if it works but here is
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1728391
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1525226
Do we know if Axon 7 includes that codecs on Axon 7?
Is it possible if not included at first one to be done via firmware update or is it hardware matter and not possible at all.
https://www.qualcomm.com/news/relea...delivers-high-resolution-audio-over-bluetooth
https://www.aptx.com/how-it-works
http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/what-is-aptx-hd
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I was looking this up just today and there are no clear answers. Just a thread saying that the rights to it was bought by Qualcomm and the radio required is the CSR8675 which was released 2 years ago.
Anyone have any idea if the A7 supports aptx?
Unfortunately seems Axon 7 doesn't have the required chip for supporting AptX HD.
http://www.whathifi.com/advice/aptx-hd-bluetooth-what-it-how-can-you-get-it
It's really sad because Axon 7 one of the key selling features is overall sound experience and decision ZTE not bring the ultimate performance in Bluetooth technology is fail despite there's several Bluetooth stereo hands free support AptX in the market.
Personal I own 2 LG Tone Platinum but can't take advantages of AptX since Axon 7 doesn't support it.
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What is aptX HD? We already have a fantastic DAC, what else do you need?
What is aptX HD? We already have a fantastic DAC, what else do you need?
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It's for high fidelity bluetooth audio
Locklear308 said:
What is aptX HD? We already have a fantastic DAC, what else do you need?
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At first post there's very useful link to understand what is it.
Did you make any attempt to read it or not?
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Unfortunately, Huawei and ZTE don't seem to offer aptX at all, since it requires a licence fee to Qualcom. OTOH, Motorola offers aptX at least from the Moto G line upwards but hardly ever mentiones that fact, Sony includes it in most devices, Samsung in some.
Before you think that it is something hi fidelity thing you can read article on above link. Qualcomm aptX max resolution is 44.1/24 and it is compressed with ratio 4:1. So the result is enough good quality but it is very very far from what you get with DAC on jack.
obladi64 said:
Before you think that it is something hi fidelity thing you can read article on above link. Qualcomm aptX max resolution is 44.1/24 and it is compressed with ratio 4:1. So the result is enough good quality but it is very very far from what you get with DAC on jack.
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OHHHH, I remember this now! Yeah this is completely useless technology. 90% of my vinyl rips are like 5000 kbps or more. Lol. HD audio over Bluetooth... Yeah right. XD
However don't give a **** about it's apt x HD licensed or not. Indeed i was also worried it's not listed and supported.
Stopped by just personal user experience. I compared BT audio with HTC 10, HTC m8, iPhone 7 plus (which was supposed to be equipped with the best BT chip called by them W1, piece of crap, it's always 4.2,BT 5.0 gonna be maybe improved).
I made the test with really average to bad quality BT headphones but only one i have 32 ohm noontec wireless HD II (for sure better than beats audio).
My conclusions are clear.
No matter i listen to tidal premium or yt axon 7 us sounds like from outer scale, smoke every other device outta water in every aspect, loudness, crispness, stage selection, stereo, just everything... Not comparable, like God among us
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No matter the differences in quality from 3.5 audio jack port and Bluetooth the fact is that ZTE made mistake not including the most advanced Bluetooth audio chip to the device.
Not everyone like cable connecting to the phone all time.
Personal I've never being fan of hands free with cable connected to 3.5 audio jack.
I always prefer something cable free not only for listening music but for calls also.
Since we see more and more manufacturers make Bluetooth hands free with AptX HD support the smartphone manufacturer should support it also.
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So I'm very confused and seem to be getting mixed answers. I'm currently running Nuclear Rom + Radioactive and wondering if it utalizes the hifi DAC. I keep seeing mixes of yes's and no's when I search through the forums. Are any ROM's even using the hifi DAC? Im currently ainur pandora, but I'm afraid its only using the qualcom DAC. I will switch back to stock (or a stock based rom) if it is the case.
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So I'm very confused and seem to be getting mixed answers. I'm currently running Nuclear Rom + Radioactive and wondering if it utalizes the hifi DAC. I keep seeing mixes of yes's and no's when I search through the forums. Are any ROM's even using the hifi DAC? Im currently ainur pandora, but I'm afraid its only using the qualcom DAC. I will switch back to stock (or a stock based rom) if it is the case.
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maybe you should try and see which one you like the most. I think that the DAC is used on other roms. But depending on your headsets you might or might not really notice. for example a low impedance headphone will be benefitted by the DAC as it has lower noise
@pinkywinky
I'm not sure what the difference is between Qualcomm DAC and "hi-fi" DAC. My guess is whatever the case is, you're getting a lesser quality audio experience with anything that isn't stock, especially as there is media distortion on the AOSP ROMs.
Also, understand that a DAC is a hardware feature. This isn't something "developers" are touching and the incompatibility experienced is because of the software support, or lack thereof.
I would ask this question in the ROM thread, I'm sure the owner of your ROM would have more to add.
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maybe you should try and see which one you like the most. I think that the DAC is used on other roms. But depending on your headsets you might or might not really notice. for example a low impedance headphone will be benefitted by the DAC as it has lower noise
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Thanks! I had a feeling it was, but the mixed answers were bugging me so I had to make sure. And I do have decent headphones, its just wouldnt be easy to do an A/B comparison without the switch.
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So I'm very confused and seem to be getting mixed answers. I'm currently running Nuclear Rom + Radioactive and wondering if it utalizes the hifi DAC. I keep seeing mixes of yes's and no's when I search through the forums. Are any ROM's even using the hifi DAC? Im currently ainur pandora, but I'm afraid its only using the qualcom DAC. I will switch back to stock (or a stock based rom) if it is the case.
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Check within mixer_paths file.
LazerL0rd said:
Check within mixer_paths file.
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I found a AKM Hifi Switch Sel on RR, though there's no switch... I guess it's working though. Haven't tried with Poweramp
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I found a AKM Hifi Switch Sel on RR, though there's no switch... I guess it's working though. Haven't tried with Poweramp
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Can you do a screenshot?
@nfsmw_gr I can
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I found a AKM Hifi Switch Sel on RR, though there's no switch... I guess it's working though. Haven't tried with Poweramp
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You could just use AINUR SAURON. I belive it forces use of the HiFi DAC by default with modded drivers.
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You could just use AINUR SAURON. I belive it forces use of the HiFi DAC by default with modded drivers.
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how can it do that, if it's not a device-specific mod? If the DAC is not coded into the device itself i guess you won't be able to use it since it has no driver
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You could just use AINUR SAURON. I belive it forces use of the HiFi DAC by default with modded drivers.
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how can it do that, if it's not a device-specific mod? If the DAC is not coded into the device itself i guess you won't be able to use it since it has no driver
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You could just use AINUR SAURON. I belive it forces use of the HiFi DAC by default with modded drivers.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68427401&postcount=3
No, it does not.
Yet...
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pinkywinky said:
So I'm very confused and seem to be getting mixed answers. I'm currently running Nuclear Rom + Radioactive and wondering if it utalizes the hifi DAC. I keep seeing mixes of yes's and no's when I search through the forums. Are any ROM's even using the hifi DAC? Im currently ainur pandora, but I'm afraid its only using the qualcom DAC. I will switch back to stock (or a stock based rom) if it is the case.
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Just to provide you a clear answer on this, because it seems to be missing in the responses:
No, you are not utilizing the full sounds potential if either of the following are true...
1. You are not using low-impedance, high-quality headphones.
2. You are not streaming high-quality media (pandora streams at 192 kbps, if I remember correctly... not really considered HQ, even though pandora's settings indicate such)
3. You are using a custom ROM based on Lineage or any other AOSP-based software, unless one of these ROM compilers have built their own drivers and integrated software to make use of the DAC hardware.
Understanding how a DAC works is critical. It is hardware, which requires firmware support, which requires software support.
You simply won't get the same sound quality/output that you see with the stock music player and a high quality mp3 or FLAC file.
If most of the music you listen to is streamed, or you are connecting via bluetooth, I wouldn't worry so much about it.
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how can it do that, if it's not a device-specific mod? If the DAC is not coded into the device itself i guess you won't be able to use it since it has no driver
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It recognises ur device in a special installer and then patches the driver config to tell it which DAC and soundcard to use.
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68427401&postcount=3
No, it does not.
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It does actually. That's just a different mod to remove ALL software effects and go straight to the DAC or Hexagon DSP.
SAURON does the default software effects (maybe optimised I think) then runs it to the HiFi DAC of the device being used. For ALL applicaions and ALL sound. IT configures the alsa config file (which inturn the ALSA driver uses) to use the correct soundcard and correct DAC that the installer finds.
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@pinkywinky
I'm not sure what the difference is between Qualcomm DAC and "hi-fi" DAC. My guess is whatever the case is, you're getting a lesser quality audio experience with anything that isn't stock, especially as there is media distortion on the AOSP ROMs.
Also, understand that a DAC is a hardware feature. This isn't something "developers" are touching and the incompatibility experienced is because of the software support, or lack thereof.
I would ask this question in the ROM thread, I'm sure the owner of your ROM would have more to add.
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No I definitely agree. But we do never use the Qualcomm DAC. We have 2 akm das, and the issue is what one of them they use. The Qualcomm DAC isn't even wired in our phone
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It recognises ur device in a special installer and then patches the driver config to tell it which DAC and soundcard to use.
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It does actually. That's just a different mod to remove ALL software effects and go straight to the DAC or Hexagon DSP.
SAURON does the default software effects (maybe optimised I think) then runs it to the HiFi DAC of the device being used. For ALL applicaions and ALL sound. IT configures the alsa config file (which inturn the ALSA driver uses) to use the correct soundcard and correct DAC that the installer finds.
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So, you are right and wrong. Our phone does not use the alsa configs at all. However, apparently someone worked with the guy who makes SAURON, and set it up so it routed the audio through the the encrypted files that ZTE gave the rom makers for audio. But you do have to use the be Alta versions found on their messing in app (should be a link in the post). Our phone supposedly works with SAURON since beta 4, but not yet in the official. It may have some effect, but not what you think it does
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@pinkywinky
I'm not sure what the difference is between Qualcomm DAC and "hi-fi" DAC. My guess is whatever the case is, you're getting a lesser quality audio experience with anything that isn't stock, especially as there is media distortion on the AOSP ROMs.
Also, understand that a DAC is a hardware feature. This isn't something "developers" are touching and the incompatibility experienced is because of the software support, or lack thereof.
I would ask this question in the ROM thread, I'm sure the owner of your ROM would have more to add.
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Well I wasn't really asking anything. It's pretty a known point with our device. ZTE did not handle unlocked bootloaders well, and a lot of our audio level is encrypted, which I believe is due to the Dolby hardware we have present. But all in all, our device performs fantiasticly audio wise, despite the few hiccups
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No I definitely agree. But we do never use the Qualcomm DAC. We have 2 akm das, and the issue is what one of them they use. The Qualcomm DAC isn't even wired in our phone
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Nope, not like that. We have the Snapdragon DAC, the AKM DAC, and the AKM ADC. The ADC converts analog signals to digital (microphone).
You can either use the Snapdragon DAC or the AKM DAC.
The switch on stock lets you use the AKM DAC or the SD DAC (lower power consumption, it seems). It CAN get to 192KHz seemingly since Poweramp detects it as Snapdragon 24-bit PCM, and it really DOES sound better with the Samsung UHQA hack, but there's nothing proven really.
On the other hand, the AKM DAC is there, it can be selected while using Poweramp, and I believe it has more soundstage and more defined bass. But on stock the UHQA hack will simply enable the SD DAC.
Now there's one thing that I'm not sure about. You know how there's a zip to force the use of the AKM DAC on LOS based ROMs. Well, it works. Now the thing is that I tried the UHQA hack here... The equalizer is sort of much more responsive, dunno about that. But it seems to be outputting at 192KHz as Poweramp says so. And this is definitely the AKM DAC, not the SD DAC as it would happen on stock. Thing is, I can't really hear much of a difference
I used HD360 Pros, they use the 380 Pro drivers which are 32 ohm. Not too low but there is still a huge difference in the highs with the SD DAC.
I'd like anyone with hifi headphones to try the same (LOS + AK4490 patch + Samsung UHQA hack + Poweramp 704). I think it's the closest we'll be to 192KHz on the AKM DAC outside of the stock player, what with MaxMP taking more than half a year to update the GUI of Poweramp lol
@warBeard_actual Am I wrong on anything? I have zero knowledge on the inner workings, all of this is basically empirical
@pinkywinky Update, I just found out that the Ak4490 patch + UHQA hack somehow manages to route sound through Viper4ARISE. That's why I had to lower the bass sliders a lot. Disabling Viper actually improves the sound quality some, but I'm still not 100% sure that it's 192KHz
Maybe try uninstalling ViPER driver and turn off ViPER?
Have you had a play with Jet Audio yet?
Use the AM3D plugin and don't need EQ turned on. Sounds fantastic. Great soundstage, has a warmth Viper lacks and manages a great punchy bass line.
With the sound I'm getting, debloat of system is the only real use I have for root so it's still locked up fully.
RobboW said:
Maybe try uninstalling ViPER driver and turn off ViPER?
Have you had a play with Jet Audio yet?
Use the AM3D plugin and don't need EQ turned on. Sounds fantastic. Great soundstage, has a warmth Viper lacks and manages a great punchy bass line.
With the sound I'm getting, debloat of system is the only real use I have for root so it's still locked up fully.
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That's why I had to lower the bass sliders a lot. Disabling Viper actually improves the sound quality some, but I'm still not 100% sure that it's 192KHz
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You sure that AM3D actually processes at 192KHz? That's like the whole point of the UHQA hack and the huge FLAC files. For example Viper says that it processes at 48k
Plus I've never been able to make AM3D work, i've read somewhere that it only works in Marshmallow?
custom rom missing its charm without this, stock has it.....as well as snapdragon audio.
dont you guys think audio fx of any custom rom fails to deliver good output..?
audio fx is unnecessary without dirac audio service..audio fx is junk...dirac audio service needed..vanilla is always good when it is ice cream.
Arise System can be flashed with ported Dirac service on any custom rom.
hulicow said:
Arise System can be flashed with ported Dirac service on any custom rom.
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can be flashed.....its all ri8....problem is not working on many custom rom bcz selinux is permissive...even after enforce it through buildprop.....if u have any workable arise with dirac...plz link below...and suggest flashing guide..
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can be flashed.....its all ri8....problem is not working on many custom rom bcz selinux is permissive...even after enforce it through buildprop.....if u have any workable arise with dirac...plz link below...and suggest flashing guide..
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Try arise aroma installer 2.94 choice install core system and repair sdcard... Viper4 or Dolby Digital Plus works fine on custom rom :good:
I agree... I've tried dolby but it breaks the music.. makes it **** (my opinion) and viper is okay but not good as stock.. we need dirac
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custom rom missing its charm without this, stock has it.....as well as snapdragon audio.
dont you guys think audio fx of any custom rom fails to deliver good output..?
audio fx is unnecessary without dirac audio service..audio fx is junk...dirac audio service needed..vanilla is always good when it is ice cream.
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The dac and the amp in this phone is very good you don't need Dirac.You can get perfect quality using audio players like USB audio player pro ,Poweramp etc that use hires audio drivers.i think the only thing that the phone misses in terms of audio is a line out mode to get bitperfect audio out if you want to use external amp
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I agree... I've tried dolby but it breaks the music.. makes it **** (my opinion) and viper is okay but not good as stock.. we need dirac
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AudioFX in lineageos is doing very good job. You can also try ViperFX and configure it to your preference.
Wysłane z mojego Mi A1 przy użyciu Tapatalka
Mirdeusz said:
AudioFX in lineageos is doing very good job. You can also try ViperFX and configure it to your preference.
Wysłane z mojego Mi A1 przy użyciu Tapatalka
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i tried but in vain...viper suks if ur audiophile...
kutulu32 said:
The dac and the amp in this phone is very good you don't need Dirac.You can get perfect quality using audio players like USB audio player pro ,Poweramp etc that use hires audio drivers.i think the only thing that the phone misses in terms of audio is a line out mode to get bitperfect audio out if you want to use external amp
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nutron player is the only one mp that is for audiophile...but not without dirac its nothing...trsut me...stock fx and dac is for bassheads...dirac produces proper high and mids and perfect lows..dac and fx produces only bass and treble..audio fx sucks u know that if u tuned that
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nutron player is the only one mp that is for audiophile...but not without dirac its nothing...trsut me...stock fx and dac is for bassheads...dirac produces proper high and mids and perfect lows..dac and fx produces only bass and treble..audio fx sucks u know that if u tuned that
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What kind of headphones do you use? The mi headphones in the Dirac profiles maybe get better audio quality. I am not against Dirac in my meizu mx4 pro that I still own (I use it as media player)It has profile for my ie8 also. I would say mi a1 sound quality is on the same level as mx4 pro .I even tested Dirac on my old iPhone 4s with Dirac player that supports apple headphones . But in general mi headphones and apple's are not very good .
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nutron player is the only one mp that is for audiophile...but not without dirac its nothing...trsut me...stock fx and dac is for bassheads...dirac produces proper high and mids and perfect lows..dac and fx produces only bass and treble..audio fx sucks u know that if u tuned that
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Yuuup agreed.. i vote; Dirac for cusrom
what is dirac is exactly?(haven't tested custom ROM, so don't know difference)
I use viper4Android in stock though. Does that disable dirac?
Any interface of dirac? or can be checked through audio quality?
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What kind of headphones do you use? The mi headphones in the Dirac profiles maybe get better audio quality. I am not against Dirac in my meizu mx4 pro that I still own (I use it as media player)It has profile for my ie8 also. I would say mi a1 sound quality is on the same level as mx4 pro .I even tested Dirac on my old iPhone 4s with Dirac player that supports apple headphones . But in general mi headphones and apple's are not very good .
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u r on ri8 place to discus abput headphones...
i have used too many earphones..
each and everyone is great..i prefer audiophile earbuds...balanced audio with deep base..but not heavy bass that makes headache ri8?
1. house of marley(smile Jamaica, early bird etc)
2. Cowon(em1, ek2)
3. beats(any)
trust me use these....if ur not bassheads..i was Sennheiser fan until i met cowon specially....dont waste ur money on mi crappy headphones or apple earbuds...i am currently using cowon em1 , it outperformed beats earbuds(personal experience)...and if u r slightly prefer lows and highs better than mid as well as high base get a house of marley.. if ur true audiophile then go for cowon em1
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u r on ri8 place to discus abput headphones...
i have used too many earphones..
each and everyone is great..i prefer audiophile earbuds...balanced audio with deep base..but not heavy bass that makes headache ri8?
1. house of marley(smile Jamaica, early bird etc)
2. Cowon(em1, ek2)
3. beats(any)
trust me use these....if ur not bassheads..i was Sennheiser fan until i met cowon specially....dont waste ur money on mi crappy headphones or apple earbuds...i am currently using cowon em1 , it outperformed beats earbuds(personal experience)...and if u r slightly prefer lows and highs better than mid as well as high base get a house of marley.. if ur true audiophile then go for cowon em1
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I am not a basshead too I listen to heavy metal ,hard rock I use ie8 and ie80 as portable headphones because of the good soundstage they have .at home I use hd600 . Surprisingly the mi a1 drives it quite well I think ,but I prefer my mx4 pro with fiio a5 or e12 .
ok. Understood about dirac.
But how to know if its processing or not. Does it have interface like dolby?
i see 1 apk with dirac name but no shortcut to open it or know if its working
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ok. Understood about dirac.
But how to know if its processing or not. Does it have interface like dolby?
i see 1 apk with dirac name but no shortcut to open it or know if its working
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its background service only......no interface....but outperforms dolby or viper easily.... awesome detailed audio by dirac..must need a port this background service to custom roms.
Thats the Single Reason I left Custom ROMs,and reinstalled Stock. Dolby Atmos/Viper Trust me I dont like Personally ,don't know why the entire forum chased behind two applications ,God knows. Its my personal experience; opinion may vary person to person due to hearing/effect/choices. Currently I'm using stock with Poweramp+ Fiio Ex1 2nd gen headphone ..within 4.5k rs it produces boom sounds. High,mid everything is perfect also sound quality is much more with that price range. With Mi A1; I always advice people be on Stock ROM and buy a good quality of Headphone ...u do not need any kind of mods like viper/dolby/ainur etc...all of them are useless and tried before almost every custom ROMs.
Latest Pixel Experience (Extended and Official) both have Dirac built in now.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software-hacking/improve-bluetooth-audio-quality-t3832615
Please dear developers, could you read this thread and try to apply this to your ROMs? It's something related to library, so, noob users like me can't make it work.
Basically, it unlocks higher bit rates like 512/ kpbs or even more when using SBC CODEC (the system default one). It also unlocks Dual Channel audio, besides Mono and Stereo (since your bluetooth device supports it).
I have a Bluedio T6 and it'd be lovely if I could have SBC HD on dual channel working perfectly with my ZUK Z2.
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I have a Bluedio T6
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Bluedio headphones does not conform to A2DP specification and does not return Dual Channel as a supported capability, hence no better audio quality is possible for Bluedio devices.
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Bluedio headphones does not conform to A2DP specification and does not return Dual Channel as a supported capability, hence no better audio quality is possible for Bluedio devices.
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As you mentioned that it would work on Dual Channel if forced I thought It'd give a sound quality gain.
Have you tried this on this headphone?
Yes, it would work, but patches don't include forced mode as this is against the specification.