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Hi everybody.
Probably this is useful for some of you. I just decided this month to buy an Honor 7. I ordered it on Oct 16 on the vMall website and received it on Oct 20 delivered to my place in Germany, so much quicker than I expected after reading about several delays and seeing a lot of online shops out of stock.
Before getting to this point of ordering it, I made a lot of thoughts and compared different devices. I have put those into the following list to get an overview. Since I received my new device two more devices were announced which I would have taken into account, whereby I don't expect that those would have changed my decision - these are the OnePlus X and the Honor 5X, which are from my perspective direct competitors of the Wileyfox Storm, which are all more mid-class then high-class devices. In mid-class range probably the Wileyfox would be my first choice. The HTC A9 is also interesting, but considering it's price and the super weak battery, I would not even create a column for that device.
https://goo.gl/uzqEa8
Devices included:
Nexus 5X
Nexus 6P
Wileyfox Storm
OnePlus 2
Honor 7
LG G4
Motorola X Play
After using my Honor 7 for roughly a week now, I am absolutely satisfied. Till now I still use it without the Nova Launcher, which means that I use the EMUI interface which has no app drawer. Something I still need to get used to especially as I fear to lose overview at a certain point, but I give it a chance first. Apart of that I'm pretty happy, the SmartKey is from my perspective more beneficial than I expected it to be and the fingerprint gestures are a nice gimmick, which makes using the device a little bit more comfortable.
Apart of that I've also faced some minor issues on the OS, but I already read before that there are some minor issues open and I hope that Honor (or rather Huawei) will fix them at some point, e.g. for several whatsapp messages I get several notifications instead of just one merged saying that I have X new messages. Anyway, all are just minor and for now I didn't face anything which would make me revoke my decision.
Hope this little support thread helps some of you in taking the best decision for yourself
If you got any questions on this overview or on the devices and why I decided for the Honor 7 and not any other, let me know.
I don't know if it will help, because most of people have the honor7 when they come on the honor thread. But it's kind of you to see how you managed to buy this phone
Sent from my PLK-L01 using XDA Free mobile app
First they sold a old hardware and software
Second they failed to fix any bugs and errors
Third they did not give a system upgrade to any market except china
Fourth Very poor after sales support
Fifth Still selling this device and fooling consumers in Asian and European markets.
Only a few people know how to switch to other ROMs, but what about the majority rest of people.
React now.
Sign this petition.
https://www.change.org/p/yuanqing-y...utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=copylink
if anyone knows lenovo businesses heads, CEO, MD, mail and social accounts, PM me their addresses...
and dont forget, please share this link on your twitter accounts.
prax31 said:
Im tired of switching between these unstable and unreliable custom roms...
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That's a punch in every devs face!
There are so many people including me that are happier with custom roms then the stock cos 12.1 which.
Thank Mr.Coldbird for marshmallow and his fp gestures, thanks to @acuicultor and @OrdenKrieger for the great kernel and device trees and all others for the variety of custom roms.
Those people who are buying this device nowadays don't care about updates or Android versions, otherwise they wouldn't buy a device which comes with Android 5.
Everybody who is aware of the Android update policy knows that every manufacturer makes their own update plan and those who want fast updates going to buy nexus or pixel phones or an iPhone
I have 2 zuk1's, both fully stock and both working as expected with only one bug. Both are suffering from the "waking up" syndrome.
The oldest zuk has been produced in Nov 2015 and since more than a year my daily driver...the second one is produced in March 2016 and in my possession since a couple of months.
I don't see any reason to complain as I knew I was buying "old" software and lets be honest, the hardware still still fairly up to date considering the price range the phone is being sold in. What you guys want is a phone with the specs of a Samsung S7 for less than 200€ new?! Do you really think that Lenovo is going to invest its time and resources in a phone which is no longer in production?
The phone's still on sale currently are NOT sold be Lenovo but people/company's who are trying to get rid of old stock...
Paid 239€ in a Electronic store. Fair price
Jau the lack of 64bit possibility worries me but otherwise it's fine.
Thanks to the great devs here it also makes me more happy than a Redmi note 2 I owned (just not the Mi5 I'm coming from) But enough OT from me
Just don't buy a Phone you don't like, there is also the web to inform yourself about possible OS updates from the Manufacturer or not etc.
But to be fair, Europe support of Lenovo/Zuk seems to be 0
Hii to all Honor 8 owners :laugh:
I am starting this topic couse every here and there I find in all of the threads
someone complain how the Huawei don't care and that they don't update
our phone in a good way or at least as promised.
So, the ones which are compain, they say like I paid the money for the phone
I want this or that and they are not satisfide with the phone couse it is an all around good
phone but you know, no xda support or something like it is a good value phone but
Huawei is bad and so on and so on.
Now I want this things to be discussed in this topic...
What do you think, will we get the android O update?
Why do you think Huawei is the one to be blamed?
Do you think they will not keep with the promise they gave to all Honor phones
and the 2 year software upgrade??
Are you dissapointed with this phone or just with Huawei??
Do you think you are not getting with this phone what you have paid for??
And lots of other stuff to be discussed in this topic and thread..
Now to give my opinion.
First I want to say I had a lot of smartphones
I was having from LG, Samsung, Sony and some other phones and now evan this Huawei
The first thing I notice is you guys complain in every xda thread the same and
not being real not for once for any phone
It goes like this
I will never again buy an Huawei or LG or Samsung or Sony or other phone like iPhone
I paid so much money but not getting the full software support, they just don't care about this phone
Then after like 7 days it goes like this is the worst phone I ever had.. do not buy that phone guys couse
it has an overheat issue when gaming..
It is not good for gaming at all
And so on and so on...
Well I must say that you guys always complain that you don't know how to buy your next phone
or you want it to be perfect for the money you paid.. so you are not real..
So lets be real just for once, how come evan an samsung s8+ owner after one or two weeks is
complaining about the phone?? And the usuall thing, I wont buy samsung no more!! LooOOooL
Dont you go and read about the phone what you are getting and what you will be paying for?
Dont you come over to xda to first ask for user experiance but after some time you come to
blaim some company for not giving updates like you DESIRE IT .. like every month.. regardless of
the REAL possibility to have such support??
I had so many phones wich not evan had what now the Honor 8 has.. I had phones wich had no
support not just from the manufacturer but also not on xda like couse my phone was in my region
with the bootloader locked with no possibility to unlock it ever!!
And I was stuck on what I get out of the box
So, long story short, why you guys always looking for the perfect one wich will have it all
like the best build the premium feel and the xda support and evan the support from the
manufacturer and then not getting it and come to blaim someone after like two weeks..
Can it just once be like.. I am satisfide with what I got??
My opinion you should be satisfide with the Honor 8
It has after like 10 months more then some more expansive phones
Not to evan say something about the premium feel and the build quality
So, lets discuss it now and here what you think overall of it.. not in every other topic..
Software Update Policy for the Honor 5x and 8
Software Update Policy for the Honor 5x and 8
Posting this first will promote a better and more productive discussion.
BTW, the last time the Honor 8 FDR-L04/L14 were up-to-date with security patches was October 2016 when Huawei released B162 firmware. December security patch was released in February and that's the latest official we've got so far. Now the still to be released B385 update will bring us just up to March's patch.
I'm starting to see a pattern here now and is not good.
Hii @Dominikrod
Thanks for the link for the update policy
And yes it is not updated that fast.. like getting the march security in the late april or start of may
But is it really something to complain so much of it like some of users do?
What I want to say this is a very good phone not just for the price but it has right now more than some phones priced this much like the samsung A5 2016/2017 phones..
And I do belive that we will get not just the android O but also the needed support for it.. my opinion is it is like only 10 months on the marked and I think that Huawei is going to at some later point give the source code and needed support.. I am thinking thay just dont wont to give it all right at the very beginig of the phone.. so I always say the best is yet to come.. or It will be for me disapointed as some of you already are..
So I am still hoping
Thanks for your reply @Dominikrod. If what is actually going on is "the best possible" from Honor, then they are really bad at that.
People will always find something to complain about, but in this case, it is something that they (Honor) promised and they are not fulfilling. Imagine unboxing your phone and notice it have an inferior processor or half the RAM as announced. May be a little exaggerated, by I feel I'm not getting all that was promised.
I got this phone expecting to use great custom roms because of the XDA-Honor collaboration, which just seem like a scam from Honor by not releasing the kernel source.
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Thanks for your reply @Dominikrod. If what is actually going on is "the best possible" from Honor, then they are really bad at that.
People will always find something to complain about, but in this case, it is something that they (Honor) promised and they are not fulfilling. Imagine unboxing your phone and notice it have an inferior processor or half the RAM as announced. May be a little exaggerated, by I feel I'm not getting all that was promised.
I got this phone expecting to use great custom roms because of the XDA-Honor collaboration, which just seem like a scam from Honor by not releasing the kernel source.
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Hii @fernandoarafat
And yes if it is the best possible wich is Huawei doing right now I think
it is still good enough but thats just my opinion
But yes I do see that this promise thing you all are saying made you all disappointed
in Huawei..
But nobody is saying if they ever gave a time limit like when they will be releasing anything
to the XDA community... all I hear is no more Huawei I wont be buying anymore phones from Huawei
or the other stuff you are disaappointed..
I just have an idea... like if Huawei had talked first with someone who was in charge from the XDA community..
And some of us ( as I know some developers ) were contacting Huawei..
Why don't we ask the ''someone'' from XDA community ( who made this agreement with Huawei )
to ask for all the Huawei owners here on XDA what is going on??
I think we should ask for what is promised and ask
for some answers or some time limit when some of things will happen.
Anybody more intrested?? Or maybe did anybody already spoke to someone
and has already some info regarding this??
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Don't know if you remember this one but this is almost laughable!
This was Taylor speaking about their new Software Update Policy.
Taylor Wimberly, a customer acquisition manager at Huawei Technologies (which owns Honor), has even gone so far as to challenge other manufacturers to follow Honor's example. "I hope that by announcing this policy that we can change the industry for the better. Seriously, all OEMs should be doing this and I welcome them to join us."
I just tried to contact the XDA community
But after asking the things I was.. and hitting the red SEND button
to send my message to them.. well it just was sending and sending it forever..
So, I have saved the text in my notepad and will try later to send it
Or some other day..
If I succeed and if I get an answer I will report this back to all of you
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And I do belive that we will get not just the android O but also the needed support for it.. my opinion is it is like only 10 months on the marked and I think that Huawei is going to at some later point give the source code and needed support.. I am thinking thay just dont wont to give it all right at the very beginig of the phone.. so I always say the best is yet to come.. or It will be for me disapointed as some of you already are..
So I am still hoping
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Hi brljak83,
I'm not sure a 10 month-old phone counts as new device in this market, it's more of a passing one. The truth is that Huawei started quite nicely at the beginning but everything went down hill after November of last year. If you remember this phone was announced back in July/August and Huawei made all sort of PR stunts to convince prospect buyers that their product was the best choice in the $400 to $450 range, at least here in the USA market. I went ahead and bought for myself the $450 Honor 8 64GB at the beginning of that campaign. The Oneplus 3 was $399 at that time, but I wasn't happy with the way OnePlus treated OP2 and OPX owners, so I didn't wanted to do business with them anymore even though the OP3 was an amazing device for the price. Then OnePlus 3T happened and Huawei coudn't justify the overpriced H8 pricing strategy so retailers started discounting the Honor back in November. Some people may argue that H8 was not competing with the 5.5" screen phones but if you read carefully from the beginning that was their intention all alone. Actually some reviews I read compared it mostly with the OP3 and the Axon 7 since those phones are in the same price range or were.
Now mid May 2017, the OP3/3t and the Axon 7 64GB have Android 7.1.1 since April, plus both phones have been getting more frequent security update patches than the H8. And where are we? Still stuck with Android 7.0, December's Security Patch, battery drain issues and some old bugs that have not been fixed yet.
Now you tell me if Taylor Wimberly's August comment about other manufacturers should follow their example and commitment doesn't seem totally laughable.
What about this?
https://www.xda-developers.com/xda-and-honor-kick-off-partnership/
fernandoarafat said:
What about this?
https://www.xda-developers.com/xda-and-honor-kick-off-partnership/
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"Next prize giveaway date: new rules and prizes coming in the spring!"
Wonder if that it's still valid?
Thanks for this one
fernandoarafat said:
What about this?
https://www.xda-developers.com/xda-and-honor-kick-off-partnership/
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Hii
Thanks you for that link
I tried last night to contact the XDA community to get some answers
But it failed..
Thanks to you I got someone to contact regarding the partnership
When and if I get an answer I will post it and report it back to all of you
So that all of you will know what has been told to me
Thanks for the help :highfive:
No, I'm not happy.
I didn't buy this phone because of any xda partnership. I only found out about it after. Great!
I bought it because I liked Huawei devices, and despite EMUI being a pain sometimes, it had a lot of features that I did like.
What I did not expect was the endless amount of bugs and issues.
And now, I don't mind a few, it happens. I'm even happy we got an update to 7.0, even if they should have given us 7.1.
What I don't like is going MONTHS without a dime big patch.
Not to mention, due to "low sales", they're going to be pulling out of the US, so all of us will lose all support for our devices.
So no, forget it. I'm voting with my wallet and not buying another Huawei.
And you're right, everyone does say that. But I don't buy Samsung because of their terrible software and bloat. I don't buy LGs because of their bootlooping, and now I won't buy Huawei because of their piss poor support.
It's not about finding the "perfect phone" it's about finding a company that cares at least a little bit in fixing their bugs and meeting their commitments.
Which Huawei clearly isn't doing.
Hii @SolarisSixth
Well, it is your opinion for this phone and I do respect it..
But for me I am not bothered so much by some of the bugs.. And I have them too..
And what I would say to you as an advice from my own experiance becouse I had a lots of phones
like LG or Samsung or Sony or iPhone it is always the same story
Belive me always they say bad or week support I wont buy it again..
So you will have to choose your next phone wisely not to end disappointed again in the same way..
Do a lot of reading about your next phone couse otherwise you will end up again disappointed
Why
Couse it is by all of them the same way and the same treatment
The only thing what I know is for the very most expensive phones ( Flagships ) they get a bit more
treatment and a faster treatment couse it is the best company gives to the customers and it is
the phone that represents the company as the best one they have for that year.. and then you get
a bit better support for bugs and stuff.. couse they dont want to be bad by giving the most expensive one
wich should represent the best face of the company
So if money is not an issue for you and you already choose with your wallet then go for the
most expensive one and still if you get such a phone still be happy with what you get..
https://www.xda-developers.com/xda-and-honor-kick-off-partnership/
However, kernel source release, which Honor tells us will happen in the near future for the Honor 8
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:laugh: There is a broad definition about "near future". Also, legally they HAVE to share kernel source, but who cares about the law anyway?
I have also a Honor 7. They stop supporting roughly 1 year after release. No source code, no Nougat update. I thought they improved something, but apparently no. What a sucker!
It's up to anyone to deal in whatever manner they see fit with Huawei/Honor false promises. What is not debatable is if it's fair to demand for those promises being kept.
I'm not expecting anything besides what the brand promised. And for that I cannot be pointed as being over-demanding or wanting the impossible.
I was afraid of ZTE Axon support but apparently they lead the game, a long with OP and Sony. And given the lottery regarding quality of components Huawei P10, it's just all a big red flag not to spend a cent with the brand.
For now, I will keep the H8 and milk it as much as I can, until I see fit to change. For another brand, obviously.
So here I am to report it back to all of you
This maybe some good news afterall..maybe
It is regarding the partnership with XDA and to give the source code to us.
Read more in the link below
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/how-to/huawei-partnership-xda-news-afterall-t3607546
Well, i bought this phone at the end of March, this year. I bought it for 329€ on Amazon, and for that price at this specs i think it'a a very good phone, also considering that other similar phones costs even double this price sometimes. Afrer this i tried the phone and i just love it now. Fast, superb fingerprint sensor, good camera, good in gaming etc. The only thing i complain for is the GPU, could be better... However, talking about the software and updates, i think that we will get at least 7.1.1 (if Honor respect their promises). I'm not just talking however, i got in touch with Honor USA on Twitter and that's what they told me:
http://imgur.com/a/OSmLv Screen 1
http://imgur.com/a/RBBFb Screen 2
Ps. The first screen is from a pic that i saw on internet, related to another conversation with Honor USA (not mine). I just sent them this pic and tried to get a confirm from them...wich in the 50% maybe they gave me. Now i don't know if they will relase Android 7.1.1 with EMUI 5.1 someday, but i hope to see it. No hopes for Android O however...
What do you think?
Hii @Giuskiller
I think it will be supported
Just read the link in the post above yours..
I got a private message about the partnership with XDA
And the promise to support our phone with source code and more
Just read it in the link
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/how-to/huawei-partnership-xda-news-afterall-t3607546
brljak83 said:
Hii @Giuskiller
I think it will be supported
Just read the link in the post above yours..
I got a private message about the partnership with XDA
And the promise to support our phone with source code and more
Just read it in the link
https://forum.xda-developers.com/honor-8/how-to/huawei-partnership-xda-news-afterall-t3607546
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Hi, i was talking about official updates, not XDA related. However, nice to hear that
SolarisSixth said:
No, I'm not happy.
I didn't buy this phone because of any xda partnership. I only found out about it after. Great!
I bought it because I liked Huawei devices, and despite EMUI being a pain sometimes, it had a lot of features that I did like.
What I did not expect was the endless amount of bugs and issues.
And now, I don't mind a few, it happens. I'm even happy we got an update to 7.0, even if they should have given us 7.1.
What I don't like is going MONTHS without a dime big patch.
Not to mention, due to "low sales", they're going to be pulling out of the US, so all of us will lose all support for our devices.
So no, forget it. I'm voting with my wallet and not buying another Huawei.
And you're right, everyone does say that. But I don't buy Samsung because of their terrible software and bloat. I don't buy LGs because of their bootlooping, and now I won't buy Huawei because of their piss poor support.
It's not about finding the "perfect phone" it's about finding a company that cares at least a little bit in fixing their bugs and meeting their commitments.
Which Huawei clearly isn't doing.
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Honor is not pulling out of the US market and this has been confirmed by them. Can u please specify from where u got the information that they r leaving the US market?
Oh and they completely ignored my second question ?
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So, a few sources say that our devices will receive the Android O update very soon and to pass the time, why not share our expected or assumed OTA roll-out dates? I think that we will receive the update by the end of this month. What about you?
Agreed. I think they will probably release a rollback package or something like that with the original firmware to go along with it (7.0).
Here Are The Facts..
Soapy! said:
Sources say that our devices will receive the Android O update very soon?
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https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-oreo-emui-8-pro-9i-7x/
Have Patience...
Don't Root..
They've said Q1, I'll go with February
entirely irrelevant.... it's coming
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Hua...o-Honor-8-Lite-Honor-9i-and-Honor-7X_id101611
Thanks a lot
optionalmgrr.la said:
entirely irrelevant.... it's coming
https://www.phonearena.com/news/Hua...o-Honor-8-Lite-Honor-9i-and-Honor-7X_id101611
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It's ironic how you say this topic is irrelevant when you only reply with, "it's coming" which indicates absolutely nothing. This is a thread for everyone's expected ETA as the official rollout date is still unannounced. On another note, hopefully I won't deal with dense users like I did on the Le 2 forums, shudders.
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It's coming along with face unlock
Hope camera is tweek'd as well very dull
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From everything that I've read and taking Honor's past into consideration I think we may have to wait until March, which makes little to sense to me.
Why isn't Honor putting a little more effort into marketing this device? I've bought a half a dozen so far, primarily for friends that were still using phones from 3-5 years ago. They all love it and of course, coming from older devices, they feel like this device is a flagship!
Only real thing I miss is NFC, but my watch has it. 2.4 GHz is what I use for everything but my video streaming devices. I really could care less it still has a MicroUSB port.
badmark said:
From everything that I've read and taking Honor's past into consideration I think we may have to wait until March, which makes little to sense to me.
Why isn't Honor putting a little more effort into marketing this device? I've bought a half a dozen so far, primarily for friends that were still using phones from 3-5 years ago. They all love it and of course, coming from older devices, they feel like this device is a flagship!
Only real thing I miss is NFC, but my watch has it. 2.4 GHz is what I use for everything but my video streaming devices. I really could care less it still has a MicroUSB port.
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Your Comments Caught My Eye...
You seem to be a very Nice and Thoughtful friend.. To purchased not only 1 of these devices for yourself.. but to gift over $1,200.00 U.S.D. / 985 EURO's to friends to update their devices.. is truly a friend indeed :good:
Since you are obviously a man of means... what brought you to this budget device in the Honor 7X ?
It's certainly not the fastest..
Or.. has the best display...
Or.. the most RAM..
Why not the View 10, Huawei Mate 10 Pro, One Plus 5T, Pixel, S8, Note 8 ???
What brought a man of your means to the Honor 7X.. I'm really curious to know if you don't mind sharing..
As a software developer I own a plethora of devices and usually carry a minimum of 2 devices. Generally I am very conscious of the condition of my devices and despite the fact the majority of them never leave an office environment, they are all plastered in screen protectors and cases, it seems like they become more fragile every year. The S8 has been my secondary to my Pixel XL 2 since I got it, but as soon as I received the Honor 7X I put the S8 in the drawer. The 7X runs naked and I'm not worried about dropping it. It has enough of what I need. I run package Disabler and remove most of EMUI and Huawei's bloat, with Pixel launcher installed, I have a very close to stock Android on a rugged unit that's as tough as a 90s Nokia!
Just overall question to evrerybody...omce we Get Stock Oreo...I am giving away this device to a relative and I will buy a new one than can ensure to me I will get Android P by Dec.18 or Jan19....sooooo the question in...if we can rate from top to bettom which company we may go with.....
LG
Sony
Samsung
Xiaomi
****ty Motonovo
HTC
Google.
Huaweii
Any other else.....
Lets help us all....brother!!!
Personally I think I will go back to HTC mid range or high end.
In this moment, I would say Nokia is the best company giving updates, almost pairing to the Google pixel devices, but since it's not In your list I would go with Google, Sony or HTC, but if you can buy a Nokia device it would be better (than Sony or HTC I mean)
Nokia right now is probably the best and of course Google as well, but Sony gives a really good support to their devices, I had the xperia xa1 and they gave me update every month and oreo update in february of this year... but then I got rid of the phone because it has some touchscreen problems... Anyway, you can choose this three brands... and HTC for me it's dead in mid range, probably you will have to buy high end for getting a good support...
cheers!
Just be aware that, at the moment, Nokia Android devices do not appear to have an official bootloader unlocked method. I do not know if this may change as some devices reach the end of support (in about 2 years time), but something to be aware of if you prefer custom ROMs.
What about any of the devices on the Android One program? (e.g. Moto X4 - Fi version, Xiaomi Mi A1) as regardless of OEM, they should be providing you with 2 OS updates/3 years of security patches as standard?
Nokia is the best option. Sadly no bootloader unlock But atleast you get updates pretty fast, so for ME it shouldn't be a problem.
Go with android one or oneplus
Nokia or Xiaomi
Android One is available with both- All Nokias, some Xiaomis (Mi A1)
Miui update support is also great, never out of security patches or features
Sometimes they dont update Android Version but features,security updates are good enough
LLegion said:
Just overall question to evrerybody...omce we Get Stock Oreo...I am giving away this device to a relative and I will buy a new one than can ensure to me I will get Android P by Dec.18 or Jan19....sooooo the question in...if we can rate from top to bettom which company we may go with.....
LG
Sony
Samsung
Xiaomi
****ty Motonovo
HTC
Google.
Huaweii
Any other else.....
Lets help us all....brother!!!
Personally I think I will go back to HTC mid range or high end.
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Stay away from Huawei! Horrible customer service. Lied about providing updates. Terrible company.
tomlogan1 said:
Stay away from Huawei! Horrible customer service. Lied about providing updates. Terrible company.
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Seems that Huawei and honor by extension do not offer bootloader unlocking on new devices anymore (with a grace period for existing devices to get your unlock code). https://www.xda-developers.com/huawei-stop-providing-bootloader-unlock-codes/
I don't know if this will get reversed, though I would not be surprised if more OEMs decline to offer bootloader unlocking in the future.
In the same boat.
I'm not buying another Motorola phone, they've lost me as a customer.
Anyhow as above.
Google pixel phones are best, albeit expensive.
Nokia Android One 2018 phones
Sony give good updates too.
Also see this list
https://androidenterprisepartners.w...-1829312490.1522349976#!/results/browse-all/2
As Huawei stops their bootlader unlocking program and also is worse in case of updating their devices and Nokia doesn't have an unlocking program at all there are only two OEMs I would buy a device from:
Google and One Plus. But both are above my budget, I'm the kind of person that is not willing to pay for a brand and has an upper limit for something like a smartphone. Motorola was the best choice for me. And if Xiaomi starts to sell their devices in Europe (they do atm) and delivers better quality and more vanilla like android they could be a choice too in the future.
UntiI than I stay with Moto and hope that Lenovo don't decide to cancel their bootlader unlocking service too. A non rootable device is the Nr.1 deal breaker for me.
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Wolfcity said:
As Huawei stops their bootlader unlocking program and also is worse in case of updating their devices and Nokia doesn't have an unlocking program at all there are only two OEMs I would buy a device from:
Google and One Plus. But both are above my budget, I'm the kind of person that is not willing to pay for a brand and has an upper limit for something like a smartphone. Motorola was the best choice for me. And if Xiaomi starts to sell their devices in Europe (they do atm) and delivers better quality and more vanilla like android they could be a choice too in the future.
UntiI than I stay with Moto and hope that Lenovo don't decide to cancel their bootlader unlocking service too. A non rootable device is the Nr.1 deal breaker for me.
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I'm in a similar position - though I don't need a bootloader unlock, having the option there for the eventual day when support/patches ends is a considerable bonus for a certain purchase in my view.
Despite the patchy update schedule, Motorola is still an OEM I'd still consider - my XT1642, a G4 Plus, is still going strong and is proving durable. The updates I've received for my device have been stable, if slow to arrive. I can live with that - I rather prefer having a reliable working device rather than the very newest updates (might explain why I grew tired of custom ROMs...). Might be worth considering the One Power being an Android One platform and the Z series, as they appear to have regular updates.
I am considering the Samsung Galaxy A6+ (AMOLED screen, hopefully good camera, though Samsung Touchwiz), the Sony Xperia XA2 (good updates, the camera appears to give images a cool tint? Also unlocking seems to destroy the DRM keys so your camera quality declines), Nokia 7 Plus (Android One and good feature set, though as previously discussed no bootloader unlock) and Moto Z2 Play at the moment (don't need Moto mods!). Of these devices, the Z2 Play appears to have pretty good support on XDA - the Galaxy is too new and the XA2 appears to not have a dedicated XDA page...
I'm amazed at the obsession level expressed regarding updates for our phones, whether stock, oreo and custom roms supplying oreo.
The disrespectful behaviour demanding updates, not even bothering to search or read threads, a great example is volte, browsing the G5 plus forum should sound alarm bells ringing for anyone who relies on that system for communication, why would you risk installing a custom rom if there is a good chance you will not have telephony working, that's why they are called phones, that also applies to the imei lost issues.
And getting it into every ones head, backing up is the first thing to be done if thinking of modifying any computer system as a fail-safe.
For me there are way too many noobs, who cannot be arsed to read anything bar a direct answer to their "asked many times questions", gone are the days when xda was for enthusiastic testers, who could specify and isolate bugs in collaboration with developers.
Last but not least, the forums are a mess, multiple cross posting, duplicating existing, no faq's the list is endless.
Anyway I like my G5 plus, think its a great value phone, especially with nfc for payment, which does get used daily.
Regards
Ray
Nokia Google or Sony....think Google the best option thanks to everybody