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FAT32 File Limitation

I have many movies that I want to put on my tablet to watch. Most are over 4 GB in size since their HD. You cant transfer them to the SD because of the FAT32 size limitation. Since Android doesn't recognize SD cards formatted to EXT3, you cant format the SD that way to allow the higher size file transfers.
I got myself an adapter on ebay so I could hook my portable 1TB drive to the tab. It connects the usb end of the tab cable and makes it into the micro usb end that goes into the drive. Only problem is that it didn't work. The tab doesn't put out any power to run the drive.
Is there an app or tweak that can be made to have the tab push power out to do this?

dubie76 said:
I have many movies that I want to put on my tablet to watch. Most are over 4 GB in size since their HD. You cant transfer them to the SD because of the FAT32 size limitation. Since Android doesn't recognize SD cards formatted to EXT3, you cant format the SD that way to allow the higher size file transfers.
I got myself an adapter on ebay so I could hook my portable 1TB drive to the tab. It connects the usb end of the tab cable and makes it into the micro usb end that goes into the drive. Only problem is that it didn't work. The tab doesn't put out any power to run the drive.
Is there an app or tweak that can be made to have the tab push power out to do this?
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Link to said device?

natious said:
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Doesnt matter because it doesnt work........

USB Host Adaptors do not put out power of any decent level on the TAB, this is not a software limitation as I understand it but actually a Hardware Limitation in the pinouts. Most USB Host/USB On The Go portable devices don't put out the sort of power required for a HDD.
At any rate, said device should work with an externally powered HDD, instead of a USB powered one.

Whether the videos are mkv or avi. You can get a splitter software.
Splitting is much faster than Transcoding. You can split your files within seconds and then copy them over.
Trust me. I know it's inconvenient, but it's just so stupid how manufacturers keep ignoring USB host.

USB Hard Drive connection

Has anyonebeen able to connect successfully an hard drive to TP?
I've tried by all manners without success,even with the docking ... no luck.
Would thisbe possible if we root TP?

for your usb drive to be mounted by the thinkpad, it has to be formatted in fat32. not fat or ntfs.
Ive got 2 hard drives (1terabyte and 500GB) with loads of data on them and are both formatted ntfs. I connected them to my thinkpad, they powered up but did not mount. I wasn't ready to reformat my hard drives with data on them so i didn't try.
However, I think I've got a 2GB usb stick lying around somewhere . I'll format it to fat32 and post some feedback here later.
oh and before trying, go to settings-->storage and enable usb storage devices. otherwise no device would mount on the tablet. even when formatted properly

as darkhandsome18 mentioned, yes but the harddrive has to be formatted in Fat32. Windows XP, Vista, and 7 don't allow you to format harddrives over 32GB within windows. However, you can use a thirdparty utility to format drives that are over 32GB in size to Fat32.
i personally use Fat32formatter (its commandline based) to do this w/my drives.
http://www.softpedia.com/get/System/Hard-Disk-Utils/FAT32format.shtml
i did verify that my 1TB external usb harddrive did mount on the TPT, i have not tried to run any videos or music from it though.

darkhandsome18 said:
for your usb drive to be mounted by the thinkpad, it has to be formatted in fat32. not fat or ntfs.
Ive got 2 hard drives (1terabyte and 500GB) with loads of data on them and are both formatted ntfs. I connected them to my thinkpad, they powered up but did not mount. I wasn't ready to reformat my hard drives with data on them so i didn't try.
However, I think I've got a 2GB usb stick lying around somewhere . I'll format it to fat32 and post some feedback here later.
oh and before trying, go to settings-->storage and enable usb storage devices. otherwise no device would mount on the tablet. even when formatted properly
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i have tried 4 ext HDD (ntfs and fat32), and all of them is not working.... (except for draining my battery for powering the HDD.. )
but for usb flash drive, that is a different matter, is it easily recognized by my TPT..
there is 1 unique problem that occurred to me, while trying to copy files from/into my TPT, there's a notification that file copy is successful, but when i check the file, it's size is 0 bytes..
this has happened to me 3-4 times, unfortunately, i dont know where's the "glitch" is coming from, as i can't replicate the problem anymore (i haven't got any update at all)

I have 2 different 500gb 2,5" drives. My samsung drive works fine playing music on the TPT. The WD drive I have only works sometimes strangly enough.
Normally when I use playback from hdd I use my supercharger power which connects throught the docking port or else the TPT just gets sucked dry of power as the hdd draws almost 500mA's.

External Drives
zeb crs said:
I have 2 different 500gb 2,5" drives. My samsung drive works fine playing music on the TPT. The WD drive I have only works sometimes strangly enough.
Normally when I use playback from hdd I use my supercharger power which connects throught the docking port or else the TPT just gets sucked dry of power as the hdd draws almost 500mA's.
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If your external drive is formatted at fat32 and has its own power source, you will have success using it with the TPT. But if you are depending on the tablet's USB port to supply enough power to spin the disks in the external hard drive, you will get varying results, depending on the power requirements for your external drive. USB flash drives work fine because they have no moving parts and a low power requirement. As zeb crs stated, you see a huge power drain on your tablet when trying to use an external hard drive without its own power source.

have anyone tried to insert a san disk SDXC 64G SD card into the tablet?

flss01001 said:
have anyone tried to insert a san disk SDXC 64G SD card into the tablet?
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XC is not supported . just HC

Skateddy from the Lenovo forums got a Komputerbay 64GB SDXC Class 10 card to work properly: http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-slate-tablets/Max-SD-size/td-p/524571

Moved to Thinkpad General
No questions in the development section please. Once sorted out feel free to post a [Tutorial] thread. That can go in the dev section.
Take it easy
O_G

Just to share that yesterday, after waiting +/- more than 1m, my TPT has recognize an external 1TB HD formated in FAT32
Good news for travelers, right?!

Update 2
Drive Mount
https://play.google.com/store/search?q=drive+mount&c=apps
For those who have root this app even mounts nfts!
Hope you find this use full.
Cheers,
Paulo

Connecting to drives larger than 32GB

heya...
Not sure if this is the right place to list this, but....
I found a tool that formats any drive larger than 32gb to fat32.
With it I formatted a 1TB hdd in an external, self powered enclosure and connected it to the tablet.
Holy crap it worked like a charm
The tool is called FAT32 Format...google it its free

Yeah. I was pleased to see the USB 3.0 hard drive charger cable port.

Nice find......that really opens up the possibilities.....with a hard drive that stores the stuff on my mac....I can actually use the pro as my main device. I have a 500GB laying on the shelf to play with.
Can you confirm that any pics would show in the gallery?

You can do this from diskpart too (built in Windows tool). Use the FS=FAT32 option.
http://blog.powerbiz.net.au/fixes/using-diskpart-to-create-a-bootable-usb-of-windows-8/

I seem to remember some of the later Samsung devices have exFAT support. It does not have the max 4GB size per file limitation associated with FAT32.
Not sure about the Note Pro though
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Can you give some more details. I want to connect a powered 3.0 hub to my 12.2 with an osg to 3.0 usb adapter so that I can use an external (non powered) hdd. I'd also like to try an external dvd drive.
Thanks

I used an OTG cable and plugged in my 500 MB external to it, no problem, no formatting. Do some need to be formatted to work?

USB OTG Max Drive Size?

Anyone know the max size of drive attached to MXPE USB OTG?
I verified an old 320GB FAT32 2.5" external USB 2.0 drive works.
However, a new 2TB FAT32 2.5" external USB 3.0 drive does not work. It crashes the phone hard to a self-inflicted reboot every time it starts to mount it.
Both drives "mount" OK to a WinXP system. Both drives have enough extra power through a Y-cable and/or powered USB hub when connected to the phone, so power is not the problem. Both drives were partitioned and formatted to FAT32 using GParted (on Parted Magic boot CD).
Update on power: Newer 2.5" external drives don't need additional power using Y-cable or powered hub.
Any info would be appreciated.

Here I go again, replying to my own queries on XDA Developer.
The phone will happily mount the 2 TB drive formatted to exFAT. And no external power needed either - the phone has enough power to run it with just an OTG cable.
The first attempt using GParted to partition and format the drive to exFAT did not work to get the phone to mount it. Not sure why.
However, using Windows XP command (DOS -like) shell to format it to exFAT worked, with the /FS:exFAT and /Q parameters. Had to install the WinXP patch to add exFAT support too.
Now, time to fill this sucker up.

Why would you need 2 Tb connected to a phone anyway ?
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patt2k said:
Why would you need 2 Tb connected to a phone anyway ?
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Streaming is OK for convenience, but quality is only so-so, and sometimes there is no available network connection sufficient to stream.
This phone has outstanding audio quality (with Audio Effects OFF), it really comes out with lossless audio like FLAC. High quality video and lossless audio files take a lot of storage. 50-something GB on phone plus 128 GB mSD card are not enough by themselves for the amount of media I have. A 2 TB drive to carry along for USB OTG provides a workaround, I can put my ENTIRE audio and video library on it and it will always be available in lossless quality wherever I am.
I wouldn't run the OTG drive to listen/watch directly, that uses too much power. Use it to copy on to phone them unmount.

Just ordered my shield and accessories have a few questions. PLEASE HELP!

So I just ordered my shield, remote, and micro sd. I'm really curious as to if I made a good combination of hardware. I picked up the 16gb version, nvidia remote, and the new fastest sandisk Mico sd. Here's my questions.
-I got the brand new sandisk uhs-ii u3 micro sd, I know the bus speed for micro SD on the shield is only rated uhs-1. Can I format it as adoptable storage using the USB 3.0 adapter so I can get the high speed the card is rated for or will I have to use the micro SD slot for adoptable storage and have my card speed throttled to the slower r/w bus speed. If this is the case should I have opted for a uhs-1 card for half the price
-I also have a USB 3.0 4TB external hard drive full of movies that I currently plug into my LG TV. It is formatted NTFS, will I be able to plug it into my shield and use it as my new media player since the one on my TV is kinda clunky. Can I read and write to NTFS on my shield?
- I also have an Samsung 840pro 250GB SSD in a USB 3.0 enclosure which is formatted exfat. Could this drive be used as adoptable storage via USB 3.0? Pretty much the same as question 1. Can adoptable storage be configured threw USB instead of micro SD, if this is the case do I really need the Micro SD card?
- Will a USB 3.0 hub work on the shield so I can plug in a dongle for a wireless keyboard, my 4TB drive, my SSD, and Micro SD in 3.0 adapter?
- Are the gaming controllers and remote Bluetooth or do they also require a USB receiver.
- Will rooting and installation of custom recovery and rom enable some of the features above that can't be achieved stock?
My needs for the device will be for gaming and playing my local video files and some kodi, so I would like enough storage to install many games. All of my large video files will be stored on my 4TB external. I was hoping to have all my games installed on device threw adoptable storage but would like to get the high speed from my SD card to run games
All answers and suggestions welcomed.
Should I have just opted for the 500GB pro shield?
Here's what I ordered
-also can I use a Xbox or Dualshock 4 controller instead of the included Nvidia one?

AndroiderM said:
So I just ordered my shield, remote, and micro sd. I'm really curious as to if I made a good combination of hardware. I picked up the 16gb version, nvidia remote, and the new fastest sandisk Mico sd. Here's my questions.
-I got the brand new sandisk uhs-ii u3 micro sd, I know the bus speed for micro SD on the shield is only rated uhs-1. Can I format it as adoptable storage using the USB 3.0 adapter so I can get the high speed the card is rated for or will I have to use the micro SD slot for adoptable storage and have my card speed throttled to the slower r/w bus speed. If this is the case should I have opted for a uhs-1 card for half the price
-I also have a USB 3.0 4TB external hard drive full of movies that I currently plug into my LG TV. It is formatted NTFS, will I be able to plug it into my shield and use it as my new media player since the one on my TV is kinda clunky. Can I read and write to NTFS on my shield?
- I also have an Samsung 840pro 250GB SSD in a USB 3.0 enclosure which is formatted exfat. Could this drive be used as adoptable storage via USB 3.0? Pretty much the same as question 1. Can adoptable storage be configured threw USB instead of micro SD, if this is the case do I really need the Micro SD card?
- Will a USB 3.0 hub work on the shield so I can plug in a dongle for a wireless keyboard, my 4TB drive, my SSD, and Micro SD in 3.0 adapter?
- Are the gaming controllers and remote Bluetooth or do they also require a USB receiver.
- Will rooting and installation of custom recovery and rom enable some of the features above that can't be achieved stock?
My needs for the device will be for gaming and playing my local video files and some kodi, so I would like enough storage to install many games. All of my large video files will be stored on my 4TB external. I was hoping to have all my games installed on device threw adoptable storage but would like to get the high speed from my SD card to run games
All answers and suggestions welcomed.
Should I have just opted for the 500GB pro shield?
Here's what I ordered
-also can I use a Xbox or Dualshock 4 controller instead of the included Nvidia one?
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Can anyone help with some of these questions? I canceled the 16gb version and opted for the pro. I also canceled the sandisk micro sd. Can I use my Samsung ssd in usb 3.0 enclosure as adoptable storage? Would I benefit any from it as far as load times on games or should I just install to internal 500gb drive? What are the advantages of a custom rom over rooted stock rom. With stock rooted rom can I install all the same apps from Google play or will I have more options with a custom rom? Also I see custom roms of full android 6.0 without nvidia skin overlay. Are there any real benefits this and will I lose any functionality? Any help is appreciated, responses please! I get my shield Tuesday.

Look through the forum and most of your questions will be answered, also, should have stuck with the 16gb

AndroiderM said:
So I just ordered my shield, remote, and micro sd. I'm really curious as to if I made a good combination of hardware. I picked up the 16gb version, nvidia remote, and the new fastest sandisk Mico sd. Here's my questions.
-I got the brand new sandisk uhs-ii u3 micro sd, I know the bus speed for micro SD on the shield is only rated uhs-1. Can I format it as adoptable storage using the USB 3.0 adapter so I can get the high speed the card is rated for or will I have to use the micro SD slot for adoptable storage and have my card speed throttled to the slower r/w bus speed. If this is the case should I have opted for a uhs-1 card for half the price
-I also have a USB 3.0 4TB external hard drive full of movies that I currently plug into my LG TV. It is formatted NTFS, will I be able to plug it into my shield and use it as my new media player since the one on my TV is kinda clunky. Can I read and write to NTFS on my shield?
- I also have an Samsung 840pro 250GB SSD in a USB 3.0 enclosure which is formatted exfat. Could this drive be used as adoptable storage via USB 3.0? Pretty much the same as question 1. Can adoptable storage be configured threw USB instead of micro SD, if this is the case do I really need the Micro SD card?
- Will a USB 3.0 hub work on the shield so I can plug in a dongle for a wireless keyboard, my 4TB drive, my SSD, and Micro SD in 3.0 adapter?
- Are the gaming controllers and remote Bluetooth or do they also require a USB receiver.
- Will rooting and installation of custom recovery and rom enable some of the features above that can't be achieved stock?
My needs for the device will be for gaming and playing my local video files and some kodi, so I would like enough storage to install many games. All of my large video files will be stored on my 4TB external. I was hoping to have all my games installed on device threw adoptable storage but would like to get the high speed from my SD card to run games
All answers and suggestions welcomed.
Should I have just opted for the 500GB pro shield?
Here's what I ordered
-also can I use a Xbox or Dualshock 4 controller instead of the included Nvidia one?
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techjunky90 said:
Look through the forum and most of your questions will be answered, also, should have stuck with the 16gb
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Yeah ended up swapping for 16gb again and gonna use my Samsung ssd adopted. Found the answers to most questions just trying to decide rather to flash full android m or just root factory firmware.

Why not the 500gb with adoptable though. Isn't it a hybrid drive or just a regular 5400rpm hdd

AndroiderM said:
Why not the 500gb with adoptable though. Isn't it a hybrid drive or just a regular 5400rpm hdd
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I think the drive is a Hybrid. Pretty good chance that NVIDIA just used a USB 3.0 to SATA chip to service that 500gb drive. So I see no reason why you couldn't have just done it yourself.
How do you know the device did not come with the remote already? I purchased the 16gb and decided I did not want the remote so I didn't buy it, yet surprisingly it was in the retail box anyway.

As far as I know it's just the shield and the controller in the box according to the Amazon description and pictures. They do sell a bundle that has the remote included but I'm pretty confident mine has no remote. You cannot add, change, or remove storage internally on the shield nvidia made sure of that.

Weather to Pro or not to Pro, you can find some more opinions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/shield-tv/help/buying-16gb-128gb-sdcard-500gb-t3399659
It all comes down to what you want to use the Shield for. If your installed games are not going to exceed those 16GB of flash (which of course will be less) I see no reason to get the Pro. Another valid point is the price difference: for the 100€ difference, I could get a 2-4 TB HDD.
On another note, I think you can find more answers around here: https://forums.geforce.com/default/board/159/shield-android-tv/

Yeah I was talking about getting a bigger usb 3.0 drive and using one of the included usb 3.0 ports. That's actually why they are there.

SkOrPn said:
Yeah I was talking about getting a bigger usb 3.0 drive and using one of the included usb 3.0 ports. That's actually why they are there.
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Gotcha I plan on it, I have a 256gb ssd in enclosure I want to use as adopted storage and a 4tb wd external for media storage

Personally speaking, for my family anyway I just add drives to the home server, or retire them for bigger ones. Building a Windows home server 5 years ago was the best thing I ever did for media consumption. Sadly I only have 3 SATA ports so I am limited to the amount of drives I can add
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One thing I forgot to mention: adding USB devices through a USB port will limit the speed and latency at which they are accessed.

OK how would you guys setup this is what I now have ordered and has already shipped so no going back. Idc if I use adoptable storage or not unless it benefits me. My usage will be downloading large torrent files and copying them to 4tb drive using shield as player, lots of large file gaming, kodi, Internet browsing and that's about it. Maybe hangouts
What I ordered:
Shield pro 500gb
Remote
Controllers
Bluetooth keyboard
Whatever I already have:
Samsung 256gb ssd
4tb wd my book
500gb hdd out of ps4

I wouldn't worry about adaptable storage. keep your external drives mounted as removable storage and have your apps and games all installed on your internal drive, keep the external drives just for media. I can't see you filling up 500gb with android apps and games any time soon.

Mr Creosote said:
I wouldn't worry about adaptable storage. keep your external drives mounted as removable storage and have your apps and games all installed on your internal drive, keep the external drives just for media. I can't see you filling up 500gb with android apps and games any time soon.
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Edit: I think I've got it figured out just gonna root stock rom and sideload whatever I can't get directly through playstore.