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While charging and streaming TuneIn radio app through Bluetooth speaker. It's pretty hot though..
Here's mine, ambient temp is 28c. Not charging only TuneIn Radio dreaming on data.
46 degree c now. It's not that bad considering it was 64 earlier when charging and I live in Singapore
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That is nothing, my GS2 would get to 80c.
It's the battery I worry about as 25c is peak operation 40c it's already lost half of its life before recharge. The batteries get hot during charge though isn't probably a bad thing because it increases capacity.
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That is nothing, my GS2 would get to 80c.
It's the battery I worry about as 25c is peak operation 40c it's already lost half of its life before recharge. The batteries get hot during charge though isn't probably a bad thing because it increases capacity.
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This is what i am worried about too. Since the battery are not removable. Hopefully the heat won't cause any damage to the battery. :fingers-crossed:
Terrorantula said:
That is nothing, my GS2 would get to 80c.
It's the battery I worry about as 25c is peak operation 40c it's already lost half of its life before recharge. The batteries get hot during charge though isn't probably a bad thing because it increases capacity.
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Batteries are made to withstand much hotter than 40c If it wasn't the case, batteries would just die in ambient temp in some summer countries
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This is what i am worried about too. Since the battery are not removable. Hopefully the heat won't cause any damage to the battery. :fingers-crossed:
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It wont do damage to the battery as long as the battery doesn't go over 60c. It just means it'll discharge quicker and you'll have to put it through another cycle. Modern phones have like 2 years of cycles in them in you charge each day before until the life starts to become noticeable that it dropping off. I think I saw something where they're at about 80% after a year of charging per day. At the same time not using the battery is bad for it too..
So tbh I wouldn't worry about it as contracts last 2 years.
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Batteries are made to withstand much hotter than 40c If it wasn't the case, batteries would just die in ambient temp in some summer countries
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Yeh but they discharge quicker as they become hot, usually the battery doesn't get hot on a summers day unless you leave it out in the sun. That is why they die so quickly under heavy use because they get really hot.
I've seen my battery hit 47 degrees. I asked HTC tech support about this. The guy clearly had no idea but went away and asked someone and came back with the answer that, so long as it's below 55, you should be okay. I hope he's right.
Terrorantula said:
That is nothing, my GS2 would get to 80c.
It's the battery I worry about as 25c is peak operation 40c it's already lost half of its life before recharge. The batteries get hot during charge though isn't probably a bad thing because it increases capacity.
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get kernel tuner and look at the "battery temperature". Some apps like GSAM takes the processor temperature and not the battery temp.
Or also dial *#*#4636#*#* and go to the battery statistics page. You should see there your real battery temperature. It's kinda strange about you guys reaching 40c on battery temperature as I live in a tropical country and this month is peak of summer season. And I only get like 27c on my battery temperature right now with regular use.
Here's me playing need for speed most wanted. Burn baby burn!
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Here's me playing need for speed most wanted. Burn baby burn!
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I thought that temperature scale was in Celsius for a moment...
His phone is going over 110F, so he's probably hitting about 44C
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I thought that temperature scale was in Celsius for a moment...
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Lol yeah. Shoulda snapped a different picture.
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This is the most puzzling issue for me so far
I fully agree with @Terrorantula the problem is at hot temps it consumes battery quicker
i was using my uncle's unit for a while and i reported it doesnt get hot easily, my own unit is different though, its around 40C all the time during ordinary use as well
im worried about both drain and throttling in gaming
now i have a like an OCD about the previous unit
definitly we need to look into this, the funny part my own unit is supposed to consume less since its PVS3 vs PVS2, im even thinking we got it all wrong about PVS maybe the lower PVS is the better one?
How is the temperature while playing heavy games like DH4
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I get 40-41 on DH4. Maybe a few moments hit 42.
Right now, I'm charging my phone and using some low-demand apps and I'm sitting at 38. I believe it usually sits a little lower than that.
PVS4 here.
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I get 40-41 on DH4. Maybe a few moments hit 42.
Right now, I'm charging my phone and using some low-demand apps and I'm sitting at 38.
PVS4 here.
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DH4?
Dungeon Hunter 4. It's a decent looking game, so I imagine it pushes the phone fairly hard. I've come across times when it has noticeably slowed down. But that may be due more to lack of optimizations for the S600.
It's a gameloft game though, so you know they will try to screw you for money. And that is definitely the case with this game. Really good game, but you gotta be patient.
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I get high temps very often, I guess this is the cost of the premium aluminum build.
I'd think the aluminum build would help keep temps lower as it transfers heat more easily. I'm guessing the S600 and the battery combination are the cooker in this one.
...how the hell does Samsung get away with it's faster clocked s600?
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hello all.. I just wanted to understand how z5 compact cpu Temps are under normal usage (basic phone usage messaging, youtube video, basic camera usage, browsing and reading articles).. for example my oneplus one running on snapdragon 801 typically hovers between 33-38 for majority of the tasks.. I understand no phone is the same.. different people have different experiences...Through this thread I would like draw some patterns and conclusions.. thanks!
Just installed a cpu temperature monitoring app to check.(cpu temperature by mooncakes from playstore)
From what I can see (if it shows the correct sensor) it hovers between 28 - 33.
Using a "regular" Z5, though.
While browsing/messaging/youtube for prolonged periods I am usually at around 35-40c.
Gaming with 2d usually stays at around 40c and 3d is at around 50c.
Installing and updating apps usually generates most heat with temps of around 50c+ but fortunately its not something that happens often.
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While browsing/messaging/youtube for prolonged periods I am usually at around 35-40c.
Gaming with 2d usually stays at around 40c and 3d is at around 50c.
Installing and updating apps usually generates most heat with temps of around 50c+ but fortunately its not something that happens often.
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Maybe u could add which app you use, I edited my post too.
Also, I think while shooting 4k video and using the AR effects for prolonged time the temp wil go above 50°c (I'll have to test) but the sd810 probably handles more.
At my old Z running a snapdragon s4 pro shutdown temperatures are around 78°c or so.
thanks guyz.. again.. just to clarify.. we can exclude the extreme cases.. like shooting 4k and prolonged gaming.. these are known to stress the cpu.. I am curious to understand how bad it is during normal usage.. hopefully this will allow others to make informed decisions.. I have mine coming tomorrow!
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thanks guyz.. again.. just to clarify.. we can exclude the extreme cases.. like shooting 4k and prolonged gaming.. these are known to stress the cpu.. I am curious to understand how bad it is during normal usage.. hopefully this will allow others to make informed decisions.. I have mine coming tomorrow!
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Well, under normal conditions nothing to worry about. (in my opinion not even under heavy load, Z5 is supplied with a dual heatpipe - but that you'll probably already noticed lol)
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Well, under normal conditions nothing to worry about. (in my opinion not even under heavy load, Z5 is supplied with a dual heatpipe - but that you'll probably already noticed lol)
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z5c doesn't have the heat pipe based cooling.. hence the worry
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z5c doesn't have the heat pipe based cooling.. hence the worry
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? It obviously has.
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z5c doesn't have the heat pipe based cooling.. hence the worry
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Oh I thought it had.
Then I understand
only the z5 and z5p have the heat pipes.. z5c doesn't unfortunately.
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Maybe u could add which app you use, I edited my post too.
Also, I think while shooting 4k video and using the AR effects for prolonged time the temp wil go above 50°c (I'll have to test) but the sd810 probably handles more.
At my old Z running a snapdragon s4 pro shutdown temperatures are around 78°c or so.
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I'm using the Cputemp app which has a cool option that adds the cpu temperature to the header of the phone (where the time and battery life reside) so the temperature is constantly under check.
I'll add also that battery temperature is usually at around 30-35c and if you're doing something heavy for a long while it will rise to 40-43c
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only the z5 and z5p have the heat pipes.. z5c doesn't unfortunately.
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What **** are you talking? It has, for gods sake.
Premium has dual heat pipes as rest has only single i guess.
My temps are between +17 - +38 last 5 days (no gaming)
Idle temp at night usually +20 or little bit under.
Web browsing get temp usually up to +35
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Premium has dual heat pipes as rest has only single i guess.
My temps are between +17 - +38 last 5 days (no gaming)
Idle temp at night usually +20 or little bit under.
Web browsing get temp usually up to +35
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No, all 3 models have dual-heatpipes. Seriously, what the **** is up with you guys? The last model with 1 heatpipe was Z4.
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No, all 3 models have dual-heatpipes. Seriously, what the **** is up with you guys? The last model with 1 heatpipe was Z4.
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Don't be like that
guyz.. easy.. let's keep the discussion civil... its okay... if a person is right or wrong.. there is absolutely no need for cursing.. I went through https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Sony+Xperia+Z5C+Teardown/53206 and there is no sign of it.. you can look at z5 or z5p on the other hand and you'll find it.
check out step 12 through 14.. https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Sony+Xperia+Z5+Teardown/52300.. this one uses it.
I already posted it in a an thread, but here it seems more relevant.
I made a small video showing my Xperia z5 compact overheating.
Just with browsing the CPU can reach temperatures of 50 - 60° in 7 minutes.
This happens while browzing at other sites too. CPU throttles bit by bit and it gets really warm.
This makes the back of the phone very very uncomfortable to hold and i can't imaging how hot it will get in the summer or under the sun.
Can you please give me a feedback on that because I am thinking of returning it.
There is something wrong with the cpu temp app that you are using..I just tested two apps simultaneously on my oneplus one...The app you used reported 46C while the "cooler master" app reported 33.3c attached is the screenshot!
There is no way my phone was at 46 because..the phone pretty cool..So I suspect the app is not reporting it right...not sure where it's getting the info from.
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Okay.....I performed extensive testing in the past two days regarding the temps to understand the behavior....Here are the details..
I used my old oneplusone and z5 compact to compare 1. perceived heat (based on touching the device) and 2. actual temp readings from the app devcheck pro.
Regarding temp readings, I monitored both CPU as well as battery temps. I generally felt, the "perceived heat" comes into play only once battery heats up as this lines up along the back of the phone.
Test performed: Used flipboard and news republic apps for 5-6minutes. Then opened chrome dev browser app and loaded "cricinfo.com" website. This web-page is flash intensive and has tons of content. I kept repeatedly navigating through the webpages and accessing links. The idea was to perform intensive web-browsing.
Note that both phones had TPU cases on them.
Here are my findings:
-Both the phone's CPUs start off at 37-40c and gradually hit 55-65c. Interestingly, I noticed that oneplus one at times hit almost 73-75c!! whereas z5c never hit this limit (perhaps due to thermal throttling???).
-The battery temps steadily rose from 27c to 38-40c.
Attached is a screenshot for your reference.
-On both phones, the temps rose almost around the same time (about 7-10mins into the test). I felt at some-point z5c was being throttled to maintain temp thresholds. However, I did not notice any "visible" performance drops.
The key thing to note: The back of the oneplus one was slightly warm. Whereas z5c was pretty warm (although not uncomfortable). I think this is exactly where the user gets worried, thinking the phone is overheating. The problem is the glass back as opposed to the padded material of the oneplus one. The glass surface of z5c almost immediately starts conducting heat and quickly heats up.
After letting the phones cool, almost within 10minutes, both the phone temps dropped pretty quickly.
Hey guys,
Everybody knows the snapdragon 810 runs too hot, and quick charging doesn't help. But with this year's hot summer it's getting to a point where I can barely use my phone because it's throttling and what's worse, it can't even charge correctly because the battery is too hot. It's just crazy, it's topping off at 300mA with a battery at 39°C, and if I put the phone in the fridge it's charging at 2.8A again.
So my question is: how do you guys cool it down? I can't be the only one in this situation. I'm to the point where I could try a gentle hack like a USB powered fridge you could put under the case, or something similarly ridiculous.
Any ideas?
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Hey guys,
Everybody knows the snapdragon 810 runs too hot, and quick charging doesn't help. But with this year's hot summer it's getting to a point where I can barely use my phone because it's throttling and what's worse, it can't even charge correctly because the battery is too hot. It's just crazy, it's topping off at 300mA with a battery at 39°C, and if I put the phone in the fridge it's charging at 2.8A again.
So my question is: how do you guys cool it down? I can't be the only one in this situation. I'm to the point where I could try a gentle hack like a USB powered fridge you could put under the case, or something similarly ridiculous.
Any ideas?
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Time your charging to your commute, with a vent-mounted clip, AC blasting it. I've done that with my Note4 "optimizing" apps, even while charging, phone's ice cube cold.
Also, charging any Lithium battery under high temperatures shortens its lifespan. Not a big deal with a removable battery, but with the 6P you want to avoid that as much as you can.
Funny, I did that with the note 4 too (did nobody tell you that flashing while driving is dangerous? ^^)
The thing is now I commute by bike. Anyway, I charge the n6p at least twice a day (sigh) so that would still be a problem.
Also, I forgot to mention it but of course the loss of longevity associated with overheating is what worries me most.
To be honest i never recognized this and the lifetime is for me not a killer feature anymore,
i know ill buy every two years a new phone (even if i try not to ).
Its so hot in your room?
Well I'm definitely not buying a phone to keep it more than a year / a year and a half either. But the thing is a hot battery may die on you very quickly. My note 4 battery died after 8 months (quick charge and QI charge cooked it). But it was removable...
And it's not *that* hot in here, but you can reach 30°C inside so it's fairly easy to get a 40°C battery.
I usually keep my (naked) 6P on a slate or marble surface while it's charging, so that the good conductivity and high thermal capacity of the surface completely absorbs the generated heat. My phones battery is about 30-31° with 28° room temperature.
Also, I rarely charge it with its bundled charger, and use a 1.2A one whenever I'm not in a hurry
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I also keep mine on a cool granite floor while doing a full charge and it keeps it a little cooler!
I used a ice pack whenever I wipe the dalvik and cache and the phone has to optimize all my apps. Ice pack keep the back of the phone cold, i avoid resting it on the camera though.. don't want to risk cracking.
Mine gets warm to the touch but you guys really have phones that get so hot you feel you need to actively cool them? That seems, well, a little over the top...
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Mine gets warm to the touch but you guys really have phones that get so hot you feel you need to actively cool them? That seems, well, a little over the top...
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Same here. Just a bit warmer when optimizing apps, but that happens once a month (when I install google updates)
The rest of the time is just a bit warmer, when heavily used.
I've had the 6P for 3 months now and I've experienced zero overheating or the need to cool it down. Does it get warm? Yes when playing games or running many apps like any phone would but I never have to do something like that and go out of my way to bring it down, just let it sit and it cools itself.
I feel your pain. LA has been warm lately and my apt is usually a few degrees warmer than it is outside. My 6P is burning up sometimes.
My solution has been to use a 3D printed phone stand that I have (I'm sure most phone stands would help) and place it front of a small desk fan that I have while it charges. I noticed that it gets most hot when it's charging and lying flat on a surface (desk, my bed, etc.), so I prop it up in the stand and that seems to help.
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Mine gets warm to the touch but you guys really have phones that get so hot you feel you need to actively cool them? That seems, well, a little over the top...
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Well no, I just made up everything so you guys have something to talk about. XDA has been so quiet lately...
Subiegsr said:
I used a ice pack whenever I wipe the dalvik and cache and the phone has to optimize all my apps. Ice pack keep the back of the phone cold, i avoid resting it on the camera though.. don't want to risk cracking.
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Yep, I'm tempted to do that when it's really too hot but I'm afraid it could to as much damage as too much heat. Definitely works though. It's just fun to watch the amps go back up in the Ampere app when the phone is cooling down.
I run the phone in Hexamode (core 6 & 7 offline). Seems to help keep the phone temps lower. No real life performance impact. The reduced number of cores won’t adversely affect performance, as Android, and the majority of its apps, still aren’t optimised, nor demanding enough to need octa-core power. Give it a try!
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Mine gets warm to the touch but you guys really have phones that get so hot you feel you need to actively cool them? That seems, well, a little over the top...
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It all depends on your ambient temperature. Battery capacity is notably reduced over time if it experiences temperatures over 35°C, and since the 6P is not that easy to take apart it is worth finding a solution to keep the battery cool.
The room temperature can easily be over 30°C in most places during summer, therefore it is common for batteries to overheat while charging.
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microcox said:
Yep, I'm tempted to do that when it's really too hot but I'm afraid it could to as much damage as too much heat. Definitely works though. It's just fun to watch the amps go back up in the Ampere app when the phone is cooling down.
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Low temperatures cannot cause any permanent harm to batteries instead. They might temporarily shorten battery life, but it is always good for batteries to be stored in cold environments (they are kept at around 8°C in labs to maximize their endurance).
So no problem from this point of view! just avoid condensation of humidity, which can actually kill your phone
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Well no, I just made up everything so you guys have something to talk about. XDA has been so quiet lately...
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Oh Ok. Thought so. Thanks.. :silly:
If anyone is worried about heat definitely don't create a backup in TWRP with compression on lol. I have a lot of data so it takes a while and wow does it get hot. I'd imagine thermal throttling is shut off while in twrp so the cpu just blasts away full speed.
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It all depends on your ambient temperature. Battery capacity is notably reduced over time if it experiences temperatures over 35°C, and since the 6P is not that easy to take apart it is worth finding a solution to keep the battery cool.
The room temperature can easily be over 30°C in most places during summer, therefore it is common for batteries to overheat while charging.
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Low temperatures cannot cause any permanent harm to batteries instead. They might temporarily shorten battery life, but it is always good for batteries to be stored in cold environments (they are kept at around 8°C in labs to maximize their endurance).
So no problem from this point of view! just avoid condensation of humidity, which can actually kill your phone
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Very interesting, thanks! Here in summer we are always between 25 and 35°C, and my battery is at least at 37°C (idle phone in the morning). So I'm pretty much guaranteed to destroy my battery
I live in place where in summer the avg temp is 40°c so it is hot and if i use outdoors i can definetly feel my device is warm even in my pocket
Also whenever it throttles i just keep it untouched for about 5 to 10 mins and it gets relatively cool again
Cheers
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So, I purchased a replacement battery for my V20 from Amazon. I wen't with the Perfine 3,200mAh as I couldn't trust that the "original OEM" batteries were genuinely original. However, I've noticed (as one other review on amazon mentioned) that the temperature sensor in the battery isn't working. It constantly seems to read around 22°C no matter what. The other day my V20 became very hot during use, possibly dangerously hot (I don't think this was related to the battery, it was a fairly hot day). I checked the temps using Aida64. One of the temperature sensors, "tsens_tz_sensor11" read 71.4°C!! I immediately shut the handset down to be on the safe side. I don't think I've ever had a phone get this hot. Is that normal? Or even safe? And how dangerous is a battery without a temp sensor? - I'm guessing not very safe at all
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So, I purchased a replacement battery for my V20 from Amazon. I wen't with the Perfine 3,200mAh as I couldn't trust that the "original OEM" batteries were genuinely original. However, I've noticed (as one other review on amazon mentioned) that the temperature sensor in the battery isn't working. It constantly seems to read around 22°C no matter what. The other day my V20 became very hot during use, possibly dangerously hot (I don't think this was related to the battery, it was a fairly hot day). I checked the temps using Aida64. One of the temperature sensors, "tsens_tz_sensor11" read 71.4°C!! I immediately shut the handset down to be on the safe side. I don't think I've ever had a phone get this hot. Is that normal? Or even safe? And how dangerous is a battery without a temp sensor? - I'm guessing not very safe at all
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I've read the opposite that most of the knock off after market batteries are crap and you're best off sticking with a genuine oem battery.
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I've read the opposite that most of the knock off after market batteries are crap and you're best off sticking with a genuine oem battery.
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Sorry, I didn't really make that clear enough. There are a ton of fake "Genuine LG OEM" branded batteries out there. They're all skinned like the official battery that came with the V20, with a few minor differences. This make it really hard to know whether you're actually buying a genuine LG product or not.
The battery I bought isn't a knock off, it's a third party battery. The capacity of this replacement is great, actually slightly better than the genuine one that came with my V20. The only issue is the dud temperature sensor.
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Sorry, I didn't really make that clear enough. There are a ton of fake "Genuine LG OEM" branded batteries out there. They're all skinned like the official battery that came with the V20, with a few minor differences. This make it really hard to know whether you're actually buying a genuine LG product or not.
The battery I bought isn't a knock off, it's a third party battery. The capacity of this replacement is great, actually slightly better than the genuine one that came with my V20. The only issue is the dud temperature sensor.
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71C is high, is that after running a benchmark or something?My note 4 used to go over 73c sometimes .My cpu idles around 28-30c ( i changed the thermal paste) and goes to around 60c under max load.I'd recommend changing the thermal paste for sure. Regarding the battery, it's probably the temp sensor on the Battery IC that's not compatible with V20?
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71C is high, is that after running a benchmark or something?My note 4 used to go over 73c sometimes .My cpu idles around 28-30c ( i changed the thermal paste) and goes to around 60c under max load.I'd recommend changing the thermal paste for sure. Regarding the battery, it's probably the temp sensor on the Battery IC that's not compatible with V20?
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I was on 4G at the time, and only checking Reddit and reading the news. Nothing intensive at all, which is why I freaked out a little. Room temp was probably around 30°C at the time.
I reckon you're right about the temperature sensor. It does seem to get some sort of reading but always hovers around the 22/23°C mark. Should I be worried about that? The battery obviously has a temp sensor for a reason. I really don't want a note 7-esq experience any time soon...
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I was on 4G at the time, and only checking Reddit and reading the news. Nothing intensive at all, which is why I freaked out a little. Room temp was probably around 30°C at the time.
I reckon you're right about the temperature sensor. It does seem to get some sort of reading but always hovers around the 22/23°C mark. Should I be worried about that? The battery obviously has a temp sensor for a reason. I really don't want a note 7-esq experience any time soon...
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yeah you never know.When charging batteries( especially non-oem) best to have fully functioning one especially from a safety standard.Yes, there are good reasons for battery temperature sensor.It says a lot about the health of the battery , like if its prone to failure in the near future.This is a wild scenario but say if your battery starts expanding rapidly it's gonna be very hot and phone will be made aware(99% chance this isn't gonna happen but just an example).You may have noticed if you use Fast charge, the battery gets hot, nothing crazy but hot nonetheless.So if your device is fast charging, it may send false battery temp readings and fast charge may keep sending higher voltage or current(i think fast charge is like 9v) because as far as it knows battery is not at temp threshold. Obviously voltage threshold comes in to play primarily, but you get the the idea.That's just another scenario i could think of as an example.Have you tried checking temps with other apps like cpu-z for consistency? Yeah i see why your temp is so high 30C room temp, that's so hot lol Mine is probably 14C .
My battery definitely goes above 23c so yeah something is wrong there.
Interestingly i once made my phone reach 90c with lineage os running kernel auditor and cpu on max speed. I could not touch the fingerprint se sor. Im not sure if it was really 90 or kernel auditor was wrong. Battery and everything was stock.
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Thanks a lot for the feedback, I reluctantly returned it today. It's a shame because it really was a huge improvement over the stock V20 battery. I've taken a punt on another third-party replacement. Fingers crossed!
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Interestingly i once made my phone reach 90c with lineage os running kernel auditor and cpu on max speed. I could not touch the fingerprint se sor. Im not sure if it was really 90 or kernel auditor was wrong. Battery and everything was stock.
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Holy moly! That's ridiculous! haha. I know CPUs can withstand very high temps, but 90°C in a smartphone is pretty nuts!
Is there any way to disable the automatic over heat screen dimming? I'm tired of the screen dimming in the middle of my game.
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Is there any way to disable the automatic over heat screen dimming? I'm tired of the screen dimming in the middle of my game.
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Sorry but if it's overheating then it's a safety feature.
I'm sure you wouldn't prefer to be playing whilst you're phone is on fire.
I'm short, no it cannot be disabled, which I'm glad of as people would just point their finger at OnePlus.
*removes screen overheat dimming"
after 20 minutes of heavy gaming screen dies
*blames oneplus saying very bad phone bad quality etc.*
been there, seen that. to this day many indian users remove thermal configs on their oneplus/xiaomi devices and eventually ends up with dead batteries, ghosted screen, hell some just burn their phones (x3 nfc)
Cool the phone. A fan on it and/or a damp microfiber cloth. Avoid overheating the device.
It's possible for hysterious to cause the thermal protection to fail to adequately protect the device especially in direct sunlight.
The display's thousands of semiconductors are vulnerable to thermal damage, not just the chipsets.
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*removes screen overheat dimming"
after 20 minutes of heavy gaming screen dies
*blames oneplus saying very bad phone bad quality etc.*
been there, seen that. to this day many indian users remove thermal configs on their oneplus/xiaomi devices and eventually ends up with dead batteries, ghosted screen, hell some just burn their phones (x3 nfc)
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Hahah.
Do this with a PC when it's throttling.
Call the fire brigade first just incase
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Cool the phone. A fan on it and/or a damp microfiber cloth. Avoid overheating the device.
It's possible for hysterious to cause the thermal protection to fail to adequately protect the device especially in direct sunlight.
The display's thousands of semiconductors are vulnerable to thermal damage, not just the chipsets.
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Yep was thinking this too.
Slap a nice big heat sync on the back of the phone.
Problem is the battery is still going to take a massive hit every time anyway.. so you can't win really
dladz said:
Yep was thinking this too.
Slap a nice big heat sync on the back of the phone.
Problem is the battery is still going to take a massive hit every time anyway.. so you can't win really
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Meh, yeah pretty much born to lose
The problem is the long game jerk off sessions on a micro laptop with very limited heat dissipation.
Limit to 5 or 10 minutes or use a gaming PC.
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Turn down the brightness...
its not like i leave it dim when it automatically dims., i raise the brightness right away and do this until im done with my gaming session. Phone doesnt catch fire. Thanks for the thermal tip.
blackhawk said:
Meh, yeah pretty much born to lose
The problem is the long game jerk off sessions on a micro laptop with very limited heat dissipation.
Limit to 5 or 10 minutes or use a gaming PC.
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Turn down the brightness...
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Or a handheld fan made for phones...think theres a few on Amazon.
dladz said:
Or a handheld fan made for phones...think theres a few on Amazon.
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It's getting around a 100F ambient here, I use a damp microfiber cloth plus fan when charging and otherwise as needed.
I just watch the battery temp as the chipset runs cool (>120F) for browsing.
blackhawk said:
It's getting around a 100F ambient here, I use a damp microfiber cloth plus fan when charging and otherwise as needed.
I just watch the battery temp as the chipset runs cool (>120F) for browsing.
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That's insane... Have you under locked or played about with CPU speeds? They don't always stick but may help.
I've seen a difference.
Are you using a case on your phone?
It'd be nice if a cooling vent was possible so we could point a solution at it, almost like a latch then have a pass through fan.
Or even plug in and stop using the lithium battery, that should eliminate a bunch of heat.
dladz said:
That's insane... Have you under locked or played about with CPU speeds? They don't always stick but may help.
I've seen a difference.
Are you using a case on your phone?
It'd be nice if a cooling vent was possible so we could point a solution at it, almost like a latch then have a pass through fan.
Or even plug in and stop using the lithium battery, that should eliminate a bunch of heat.
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A stock N10+ snap running on Pie, brightness 30-40%, power setting: optimized, it's in a Zizo Bolt case. Optimized; no cloud storage, wifi, Google play Services, Playstore are normally disabled, and no social media apps. When I first got it it was a hot running power hog... a real menace.
At >95-98F if streaming vids* I need to cool it or give it a rest by browsing after 20-30 minutes. At 100F ambient that's getting near the 102F limit I try to stay below on the battery for best lifespan. That's what's limiting me, not so much the cpu core temp.
It's a clean running machine that's gorgeous, and gets good SOT. Samsung has given me zero incentive to upgrade it... so I bought a second new one about a year and a half ago.
*streaming vids uses almost twice the power as just surfing on the browser. Watching downloaded vids uses less as surfing.
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A stock N10+ snap running on Pie, brightness 30-40%, power setting: optimized, it's in a Zizo Bolt case. Optimized; no cloud storage, wifi, Google play Services, Playstore are normally disabled, and no social media apps. When I first got it it was a hot running power hog... a real menace.
At >95-98F if streaming vids* I need to cool it or give it a rest by browsing after 20-30 minutes. At 100F ambient that's getting near the 102F limit I try to stay below on the battery for best lifespan. That's what's limiting me, not so much the cpu core temp.
It's a clean running machine that's gorgeous, and gets good SOT. Samsung has given me zero incentive to upgrade it... so I bought a second new one about a year and a half ago.
*streaming vids uses almost twice the power as just surfing on the browser. Watching downloaded vids uses less as surfing.
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They're extreme temps, how hot is it where you are?
dladz said:
They're extreme temps, how hot is it where you are?
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It's 84F at 9AM, but should hit 104 today.
But it's a dry heat
Being inside is roughly 5° cooler by the time the ambient outside temperature peaks.
W Texas, is not Death Valley by a long shot.
blackhawk said:
It's 84F at 9AM, but should hit 104 today.
But it's a dry heat
Being inside is roughly 5° cooler by the time the ambient outside temperature peaks.
W Texas, is not Death Valley by a long shot.
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Bit toasty that mate, it's 25c here (celcius)
Would a case make a difference? Maybe underclock as well.
dladz said:
Bit toasty that mate, it's 25c here (celcius)
Would a case make a difference? Maybe underclock as well.
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It's already 91F here, the only reason it's not hotter yet was it's a bit overcast. That's burning off, no rain forecast for the next week, just heat.
I never use the power saving mode as it's a pain.
Oddly using peak cpu performance doesn't really add more speed than in the optimized mode.
Using max resolution you take about a 4-6% hit per hour. Even with 20/10 vision the difference is hard or near impossible to spot, mostly pointless to do.
Without a case the N10+ is hard to handle and would get destroyed. Not sure how much of a difference in heat dissipation no case makes as I never tested it. Not worth the risk.
The only bad thing with a case is spotting a failed swelling battery is hidden. Had that happen 2 years ago. Was very lucky the display wasn't damaged. Normally I take the case off every 2-3 months for cleaning as it attaches very little dust and dirt.
Always watch for changes in battery capacity and fast charging performance. If fast charging fails to engage or doesn't stay engaged within its normal temperature and charge % ranges it maybe a battery failure in progress. Batteries can fail at any time but is more likely to happen once a Li is degraded (80% or less of its original capacity).
This current Li has been hovering around 80-84% of it's original capacity for 6 months now. It's a little over 2 years old... I need to change it out soon. Lol, it's outlasted the OEM battery by over 6 months In all fairness though when I first got the phone it was a power hungry hog, took a few months to figure out how to tone it down. Another reason you want to always optimize a new Samsung; battery lifespan, not just for SOT/heat/performance.
Night and day difference.
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It's already 91F here, the only reason it's not hotter yet was it's a bit overcast. That's burning off, no rain forecast for the next week, just heat.
I never use the power saving mode as it's a pain.
Oddly using peak cpu performance doesn't really add more speed than in the optimized mode.
Using max resolution you take about a 4-6% hit per hour. Even with 20/10 vision the difference is hard or near impossible to spot, mostly pointless to do.
Without a case the N10+ is hard to handle and would get destroyed. Not sure how much of a difference in heat dissipation no case makes as I never tested it. Not worth the risk.
The only bad thing with a case is spotting a failed swelling battery is hidden. Had that happen 2 years ago. Was very lucky the display wasn't damaged. Normally I take the case off every 2-3 months for cleaning as it attaches very little dust and dirt.
Always watch for changes in battery capacity and fast charging performance. If fast charging fails to engage or doesn't stay engaged within its normal temperature and charge % ranges it maybe a battery failure in progress. Batteries can fail at any time but is more likely to happen once a Li is degraded (80% or less of its original capacity).
This current Li has been hovering around 80-84% of it's original capacity for 6 months now. It's a little over 2 years old... I need to change it out soon. Lol, it's outlasted the OEM battery by over 6 months In all fairness though when I first got the phone it was a power hungry hog, took a few months to figure out how to tone it down. Another reason you want to always optimize a new Samsung; battery lifespan, not just for SOT/heat/performance.
Night and day difference.
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Yea defo don't use qhd it's pointless..
Also wouldn't use power saver, I meant actually underclocking in Franco kernel
manager.
I knock them down a few notches, definitely helps.
Also with heat your phone will charge a tonne slower.. first step is 37c then 39 then 40 and so on...
Under 37c and you're getting the full 80 watts.
I think a case with some space In it would help with heat dissipation..
Android 12 also seemed to be much more efficient than 13, I've contemplated going back again and have done a few times.
Certainly shouldn't have to but needs must.
dladz said:
Yea defo don't use qhd it's pointless..
Also wouldn't use power saver, I meant actually underclocking in Franco kernel
manager.
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The N10+'s are both snaps, locked bootloaders.
dladz said:
I knock them down a few notches, definitely helps.
Also with heat your phone will charge a tonne slower.. first step is 37c then 39 then 40 and so on...
Under 37c and you're getting the full 80 watts.
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With a damp microfiber cloth it charges under 95F even when it's insanely hot.
dladz said:
I think a case with some space In it would help with heat dissipation..
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There's a very small airspace on back. It actually does quit well.
dladz said:
Android 12 also seemed to be much more efficient than 13, I've contemplated going back again and have done a few times.
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I'm still running on 9 and 10. Pie seems to run the best and is more functional. 10 has some nice tricks but has many dozens of new system apps for the UI. Oddly my disable list is nearly identical for both phones right now. That may change as I play with it more... but I really like Pie.
No plans to upgrade either. No malware on this phone (Pie) in over 3 years so it's relatively secure as configured/used.
blackhawk said:
The N10+'s are both snaps, locked bootloaders.
With a damp microfiber cloth it charges under 95F even when it's insanely hot.
There's a very small airspace on back. It actually does quit well.
I'm still running on 9 and 10. Pie seems to run the best and is more functional. 10 has some nice tricks but has many dozens of new system apps for the UI. Oddly my disable list is nearly identical for both phones right now. That may change as I play with it more... but I really like Pie.
No plans to upgrade either. No malware on this phone (Pie) in over 3 years so it's relatively secure as configured/used.
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Android 9 and 10 lool root them both mate and install an efficient kernel unless you can't, in which case that sucks.
dladz said:
Android 9 and 10 lool root them both mate and install an efficient kernel unless you can't, in which case that sucks.
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The Snapdragon variants are notoriously hard to root. They also have a good vapor phase heatpipe on the SOC.
Not worth it as they run well now