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HD ram,problem?

OSMonitor tells me i have 638 meg total ram,watchtower the same.
I thought the desire hd had 768 meg ram,where has 130 meg gone?.
Is the ram used for the os?.

maybe some is used for the gpu?

jamieeeee said:
maybe some is used for the gpu?
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Maybe ,would just really like to know what its used for.

Locked perhaps?
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i have exactly the same. i wouldnt worry though, its still got more ram than any other phone.

squalllion1uk said:
Locked perhaps?
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I think only 11 meg is locked.
Task manager is saying memtotal is 638244 kb and MLocked is 10892.
So still 120 meg short lol.

rossysaurus said:
i have exactly the same. i wouldnt worry though, its still got more ram than any other phone.
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True ,some will come up with an answere though at some stage.

ciderz said:
True ,some will come up with an answere though at some stage.
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and here it is!
it uses that 100ish for the fast boot feature i would imagine so anyway.
so on shut down it stores the os in the ram this way only a small amount of power is needed to keep it stored, removing the battery clears this ram area forcing a normal boot.
this is similar to how a pc does stand by. so really id imagine that the os and main launcher is probably always loaded in this invisible bit of ram, a custom rom without fast boot would probably show all of it.

Says I have only 623mbs :s
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noobdeagle said:
and here it is!
it uses that 100ish for the fast boot feature i would imagine so anyway.
so on shut down it stores the os in the ram this way only a small amount of power is needed to keep it stored, removing the battery clears this ram area forcing a normal boot.
this is similar to how a pc does stand by. so really id imagine that the os and main launcher is probably always loaded in this invisible bit of ram, a custom rom without fast boot would probably show all of it.
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Are those 100ish mb permanent reserved for the fastboot feature, or will they be released if i uncheck fastboot in phone and remove battery and put it back in again and boot up, will i have all my 768mb then ?

boarne71 said:
Are those 100ish mb permanent reserved for the fastboot feature, or will they be released if i uncheck fastboot in phone and remove battery and put it back in again and boot up, will i have all my 768mb then ?
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no idea uncheck it and see, im still waiting for my DHD to ship from handtec so it was purly speculation however it seems logical that this is what it is used for.
disable it reboot then check ram usage.

@noobdeagle I didnt think about fastboot you'r prolly right.
I would try it but with the latest patch to visionary restarting the phone will play havok with the overclock.
If anyone else could try this i would be greatfull.

Well, i did remove the silicon case and power off the phone, removed the battery and inserted it again and started up the phone..... hmm, it's still 638xxx total using os monitor So there is no easy way to get hold of all the 768mb. My guess is also that those missing mb is dedicated for the fastboot.

Does the 'missing' 100MB matter?

SiliconS said:
Does the 'missing' 100MB matter?
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Short answer: No. The total amount it has is reduced by the OS. That's the bottom line. It would be nice if manufactures gave the actual usable amount instead of total. Same with storage. They say 1.5 GB, but even before I add anything, it says only 1.1 GB because of the stuff they put there first. Anyway I'm using Mini Info, and after all my apps I need they are only using 241 MB out of the 638 MB available, so I'm good.

Ok, the system take some from the 638, but i guess its not the mainprogram and that the 100+ mb is reserved for the main program and fastboot, anyways it isnt available to anything else, and really the phone works fine as it is... but as with pc more is better
They should tell us what space we have on the phone AFTER the main program and basics programs from manufacturer is installed, not the ammount there is on a totally clean phone, that info is pretty useless to the consumer.
In short as said before, it does not matter and this phone has more memory to use then any other on the market, so nothing to reflect on if you ask me.

Duplicate storage?

So I am cleaning up my phone when I notice I have these two folders that are identical.
Main question is, which one is safe to delete without making my phone go crazy?

Ckamc said:
So I am cleaning up my phone when I notice I have these two folders that are identical.
Main question is, which one is safe to delete without making my phone go crazy?
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Definitely not. Leave it alone; everyone has those folders and I assure you they do not exist twice.

What makes me scratch my head is that both folders are the exact same size with the same content so I just don't understand why my phone needs double since it shows my storage at 17GB and want to free up some more space

One is a link to the other. They are not duplicated, they are one and the same files
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Ckamc said:
What makes me scratch my head is that both folders are the exact same size with the same content so I just don't understand why my phone needs double since it shows my storage at 17GB and want to free up some more space
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Alright, think about it this way. Open your file explorer and check the size of either of the folders by looking at their properties. For instance, mine both show that they add up to 10GB. I've also got about 3-4GB of space being used for backups and my system partition, and even more for apps. So my guess? Probably using at least 20GB of my storage. Keep in mind that I have a 32GB phone. Now if I go to settings > storage, it shows that I have 12GB of free space, so it all adds up. If you do the math, I couldn't possibly be using 20GB total for both of those folders, so they have to just be different paths to the same location, and yours probably is, too.
My conclusion: if you delete one of those folders, nothing good can come of it. Look elsewhere and account for your system itself (I see you are using the stock firmware, which is quite large due to LG bloatware) and the apps you use. Check Settings > Storage and see what's using so much space.

Thanks for confirming everyone. I guess I need to browse my phone system with my PC to find where the real bloat is at. Yes the LG apps do take up a bit of space.

Ckamc said:
Thanks for confirming everyone. I guess I need to browse my phone system with my PC to find where the real bloat is at. Yes the LG apps do take up a bit of space.
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You might consider finding an AOSP ROM that fits your needs if you're looking for a bit more space. They tend to be a lot smaller than stock roms. Also, try clearing your cache.

alone-together said:
You might consider finding an AOSP ROM that fits your needs if you're looking for a bit more space. They tend to be a lot smaller than stock roms. Also, try clearing your cache.
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Cant live without Knock on or even the remote app since I stopped buying batteries for my remotes

Ckamc said:
Cant live without Knock on or even the remote app since I stopped buying batteries for my remotes
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Knock on and the remote app have been ported and work very well. Check out Mahdi ROM, it works great on my G2. You can find the ported remote app in the Themes and Apps forum. Good luck!
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Nexus 6 5.1 Encryption Performance

It seems that Encryption has got a big performance boost in 5.1.
I ran Androbench on my stock Nexus 6 running LMY47M.
My results using stock androbench settings.
Sequential Read|Write
161.53 MB/s | 74.75 MB/s
Random Read
20.0 MB/s, 5187.28 IOPS (4KB)
Random Write
7.98 MB/s, 2052.08 IOPS (4KB)
These numbers are actually higher than the unencrypted numbers AndroidPolice and Antutu reported back when the Nexus 6 first came out.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...us-6-encrypted-vs-unencrypted-its-not-pretty/

Yeah I'm not even gonna mess with unencrypting mine. It's as fast as me already. I don't care about benchmark numbers.

Here's my androbench decrypted.
Sent from my Nexus 6 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2

Using NEON instructions now. Should help a lot, though it's still not hardware accelerated.

neyenlives said:
Yeah I'm not even gonna mess with unencrypting mine. It's as fast as me already. I don't care about benchmark numbers.
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Since I have my work email on mine I've had mine encrypted from the beginning. Now I don't feel any performance hit though. I just ran the benchmark to make sure it was more than placebo.

donatom3 said:
Since I have my work email on mine I've had mine encrypted from the beginning. Now I don't feel any performance hit though. I just ran the benchmark to make sure it was more than placebo.
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Same here. I had to enable a pattern to be able to access exchange server. There are exchange security bypass hacks out there you can load to remove that dependency (was for the Note 3 anyways) but I'm gonna leave it be.

I'd like to see someone check how the CPU is hit during heavy I/O now.
Remember that it could be pegging the CPU in order to keep the data transfer fast, which would have an impact on CPU intense applications and battery life. Real world use includes I/O *simultaneous* with CPU. Benchmarks only test them separately.

This is good to see. Once 5.1 or whatever settles in, I'm going back to encrypted and locked down

treIII said:
Here's my androbench decrypted.
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Also decrypted, results are pretty similar. Staying decrypted, phone is flying. Barely no stutters or lag.

wietse1988 said:
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Also decrypted, results are pretty similar. Staying decrypted, phone is flying. Barely no stutters or lag.
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Random write is almost double as the decrypted phone hmmm , maybe it's still worth it to decrypt the phone

Chad_Petree said:
Random write is almost double as the decrypted phone hmmm , maybe it's still worth it to decrypt the phone
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I can't take that decision for you. I don't really care about encryption. If they steal my phone, and don't know my password they only can get data off my sd card. Which I don't really bother.. What bothers to me is how the phone feels. And I decrypted it on android 5.0.1 And the phone did feel allot faster. On 5.1 decrypted the phone feels just as fast, I haven't used 5.1 encrypted, so I can't tell the differnce on 5.1. But I think the phone wil feel faster decrypted. So you could give it a try.

wietse1988 said:
I can't take that decision for you. I don't really care about encryption. If they steal my phone, and don't know my password they only can get data off my sd card. Which I don't really bother.. What bothers to me is how the phone feels. And I decrypted it on android 5.0.1 And the phone did feel allot faster. On 5.1 decrypted the phone feels just as fast, I haven't used 5.1 encrypted, so I can't tell the differnce on 5.1. But I think the phone wil feel faster decrypted. So you could give it a try.
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I will, I'm actually waiting for the whole drama with the different 5.1 builds to be solved and then I will decrypt the phone

I was in the decrypted camp on 5.0... Didn't bother on 5.1 and honestly it's fast. No lag or stutters

My N6 still sucks opening apps. I'm so tired of this phone feeling slow. I still have my N5 because I'm procrastinating selling it but its running stock 5.0.1 and all the apps open instantly. I tested it against my decrypted N6 running 5.1, and my N6 is way behind.. Androbench says my sequential read speed is 187.72MB/s. Now if I reboot my phone it'll probably clear some apps from memory and do better idk I'll go try but either way sometimes it does better after a reboot, but it is nowhere near as fast as loading apps on my N5 and that bothers me so bad..
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OK after reboot its sequential read is at 192.84MB/s. Its performing a little better but this wears off for me. I can't keep rebooting my phone to get a little speed increase. Is that a bad result? Should my phone do better being decrypted? I can't stand it.
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Does the encryption go away once you root the device or is there a thread on how to decrypt the device?

KappaAce2010 said:
Does the encryption go away once you root the device or is there a thread on how to decrypt the device?
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Encryption and root are independent of each other. You can do either, or both in any combination.
Here's on thread on how to decrypt > http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/development/disable-forced-encryption-gain-root-t2946715

italia0101 said:
I was in the decrypted camp on 5.0... Didn't bother on 5.1 and honestly it's fast. No lag or stutters
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This. It cant get much better!

I really hope Google comes out with a new Nexus 5 soon. I was hearing they were gonna do that. I'd rather get that and sell this phone if that phone ends up having faster storage speeds with similar specs. This phone is terrible.
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sionicion said:
I really hope Google comes out with a new Nexus 5 soon. I was hearing they were gonna do that. I'd rather get that and sell this phone if that phone ends up having faster storage speeds with similar specs. This phone is terrible.
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Any new phone will still use encryption and if Goog doesn't want to shell out the fees to Qualcomm it is still going to be software like it is now. Maybe a newer proc would be better at handling it though? Not sure.

Evo_Shift said:
Any new phone will still use encryption and if Goog doesn't want to shell out the fees to Qualcomm it is still going to be software like it is now. Maybe a newer proc would be better at handling it though? Not sure.
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Its not encryption. My Nexus 6 is decrypted and still my Nexus 5 outperforms my N6 at opening apps.
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Root partition 4% free

Is this normal?
why would it be so full?

Yes, it is. Why would you make system partition larger than needed?

davfiala said:
Yes, it is. Why would you make system partition larger than needed?
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Yeah.. I'm happy they hard caped it at 3gb.. On the 32gb moto z play its up all the way at 6gb

I find it quite irritating... I have only 50mb free left and am removing system apps now. I wonder what happens with the next update (rooted so full zip). I will run out of space!

exis_tenz said:
I find it quite irritating... I have only 50mb free left and am removing system apps now. I wonder what happens with the next update (rooted so full zip). I will run out of space!
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After the OOS v4.5.8 OTA I have such little space (110Mg in /system) that V4ARISE doesn't have enough room to flash its core and just Viper4Android anymore. I'm currently looking for an easy, long term, solution as Viper4Android alone is actually ~5Mg but V4ARISE comes with too much overhead I will never use or want. Deleting /system bloat wear is a pain after each OTA so I'll seek a simple 1 or 2 flash file solution with the minimum of overhead and bother. I'm still sticking with OOS rather than a custom ROM as they usually interface with all the hardware better than custom solutions and OOS is already feature rich and dam responsive.

Maximum micro SD port speed for this model?

I tried to use some micro sd cards I haven't used for a while, but when I switch my micro SD as internal storage the OS says: the speed is too low and my phone would become pretty slow. Before I to find some high speed micro SD card in amazon my question is this:
What's the maximum reading and writing speed the micro SD port in this port can handle?
Which micro SD card model should I buy as internal storage for this phone if the speed supported by the port is beyond 20 mbs/s while reading?
Thanks in advance.

Never use a SD card for running apps.
Use as a data drive only.
Use a V30 rated card from a reliable manufacturer.

blackhawk said:
Never use a SD card for running apps.
Use as a data drive only.
Use a V30 rated card from a reliable manufacturer.
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the sad thing is the apps won't use the SD card as data storage since android 6.0, my internal storage cannot hold all my apps and runs 90% storage full all the time :´c.

hunkdorlian said:
the sad thing is the apps won't use the SD card as data storage since android 6.0, my internal storage cannot hold all my apps and runs 90% storage full all the time :´c.
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Move the DCIM folder to the SD card.
Weed out the trash apps if any.
Find better coded freeware apps that use less memory.
Clear browser data as needed.
Clear any large caches as needed.
You need at least 1 gb of free space.
I have a S4+ that has 16gb internal memory so I know the feeling. Probably getting to be upgrade time.

blackhawk said:
Move the DCIM folder to the SD card.
Weed out the trash apps if any.
Find better coded freeware apps that use less memory.
Clear browser data as needed.
Clear any large caches as needed.
You need at least 1 gb of free space.
I have a S4+ that has 16gb internal memory so I know the feeling. Probably getting to be upgrade time.
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thanks for the tips these will help me greatly, by the way, which ROM would you suggest me to use for this old good phone?

hunkdorlian said:
thanks for the tips these will help me greatly, by the way, which ROM would you suggest me to use for this old good phone?
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Don't know. If you were on Pie, which I doubt, stay there. I personally stick to stock for more predictable results.

blackhawk said:
Don't know. If you were on Pie, which I doubt, stay there. I personally stick to stock for more predictable results.
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yeah i'm still in pie =0. sadly my bank apps won't support stock android firmware anymore.

hunkdorlian said:
yeah i'm still in pie =0. sadly my bank apps won't support stock android firmware anymore.
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Leave it there. Pie is the best version in my opinion. Android 10 would screw it up.
My 10+ is still on Pie, deliberately.

blackhawk said:
Leave it there. Pie is the best version in my opinion. Android 10 would screw it up.
My 10+ is still on Pie, deliberately.
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hopefully Pie will be still valid some years more.

hunkdorlian said:
hopefully Pie will be still valid some years more.
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I'm getting my second new 10+ N975U today.
One reason a searched high and low for a new one was a guarantee it be loaded with Pie not Q!
Twins. Hell yeah. I will see how fast I can load the new one up. Give SmartSwitch a test run.
With the way Android is going downhill with scope storage and bloating, Pie will remain viable for years to come unless you're into gaming perhaps. Older valuable apps that can't run right on Q and above will continue to be usable.
No gross security issues at all... I know as I've ran with this OS on some of the worst websites there are using Brave and Samsung browser. Various adblockers are running.
No malware has made it through in over a year in spite of its "security issues". There have been a over a dozen maybe two of app samplings that were uninstalled with no damaged.
I'm careful with bt and keep wifi disabled... other than that I use it without concern.
At 16 months old it's my longest running OS load ever. It's been heavily used.
Still fast and very stable... no need to reload it yet. That impresses me as well as the fact it continues to fullfill it's mission and remains 100% functional.
Upgrading it would only cause trouble and lots of lost time.

blackhawk said:
I'm getting my second new 10+ N975U today.
One reason a searched high and low for a new one was a guarantee it be loaded with Pie not Q!
Twins. Hell yeah. I will see how fast I can load the new one up. Give SmartSwitch a test run.
With the way Android is going downhill with scope storage and bloating, Pie will remain viable for years to come unless you're into gaming perhaps. Older valuable apps that can't run right on Q and above will continue to be usable.
No gross security issues at all... I know as I've ran with this OS on some of the worst websites there are using Brave and Samsung browser. Various adblockers are running.
No malware has made it through in over a year in spite of its "security issues". There have been a over a dozen maybe two of app samplings that were uninstalled with no damaged.
I'm careful with bt and keep wifi disabled... other than that I use it without concern.
At 16 months old it's my longest running OS load ever. It's been heavily used.
Still fast and very stable... no need to reload it yet. That impresses me as well as the fact it continues to fullfill it's mission and remains 100% functional.
Upgrading it would only cause trouble and lots of lost time.
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My only real trouble with my S4 is the battery, in my country original batteries are long gone and the generic ones my mobile turns off at 30% and increasing over the year. I wonder which generic battery is the best of the market nowadays.

hunkdorlian said:
My only real trouble with my S4 is the battery, in my country original batteries are long gone and the generic ones my mobile turns off at 30% and increasing over the year. I wonder which generic battery is the best of the market nowadays.
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Try to find batteries made in Vietnam not China.
If your SOT has diminished greatly, replace the degraded Li before it fails.
If you get a newer phone don't get one running on Adroid 11, it's a dog.
Unfortunately the new 10+ was loaded on Android 10. That OS doesn't seem bad but caused me scramble to accommodate it. I should have seen that coming