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Only thing I've done is root with Gingerbreak.
Anyone else seen random lockups? Mine's frozen twice today. Do I have a dud?
It's unlikely it's a dud if lockups are the concern. (though one shouldn't necessarily rule that out as far as HW issues are concerned - bad ram, flaky cpu, loosened solder etc)
But it does happen from time to time. Ideally, try and stick with Honeycomb apps (or those that have recently been updated to work on HC) and definitely do not install any 'questionable' apps from 'shady' sources.
If you can rule those out as not being the source of the instability then look at the 'market' apps you've installed - it's not unheard of for free or paid apps from the Android Market not playing very well at all.
Not everybody should be coding.
oddly enough I unrooted and my Tab got more stable.
I have posted and used numerous Lp5-5.1 roms with different modifications. After using them for a few months, I have decided to try Kitkat just to refresh my memory. What a pleasant surprise I got: My Z1 turned in a different device, which is faster, lighter, more fluid and virtually bugless. No overheating issues, which exist on 100% of lollipop roms. No memory leaks, no screen problems, no lagging, no freezing, no limited features...
Note that Lollipop has been around for over 6 month and there is still not one stable version. And there won't be one, as each bug fix introduces a new one. I can't blame developers: LP is simply bad in design, it can't be fixed. Art is a layer that burdens the device and is a step backwards. It burdens CPUs, hence you always have overheating and no tinkering with voltage will help. After using a web browser for 10 min (just browsing, no video), cpu temp goes up over 65 and even fixed thermanager, tweaked to not kick in until 60-65, starts to work resulting in flickering. Using camcoder for about 5 minutes results in display, the app and literally the phone shutting down, as CPU temp goes to 85-90. To fix overheating, you have to get rid of art. Art also burdens ram, while it was supposed to do the opposite. What else do you need: your phone overheats, lags, freezes, crashes, apps f/c, ram is under pressure, battery won't properly charge and none of it can be fixed in over 6 months.
Bye bye, LP, for good.
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I have posted and used numerous Lp5-5.1 roms with different modifications. After using them for a few months, I have decided to try Kitkat just to refresh my memory. What a pleasant surprise I got: My Z1 turned in a different device, which is faster, lighter, more fluid and virtually bugless. No overheating issues, which exist on 100% of lollipop roms. No memory leaks, no screen problems, no lagging, no freezing, no limited features...
Note that Lollipop has been around for over 6 month and there is still not one stable version. And there won't be one, as each bug fix introduces a new one. I can't blame developers: LP is simply bad in design, it can't be fixed. Art is a layer that burdens the device and is a step backwards. It burdens CPUs, hence you always have overheating and no tickering with voltage will help. After using a web browser for 10 min (just browsing, no video), cpu temp goes up over 65 and even fixed thermanager, tweaked to not kick in until 60-65, starts to work resulting in flickering. Camcoder results in display, the app and literally the phone shutting down, as CPU temp goes to 85-90. To fix overheating, you have to get rid of art. Art also burdens ram, while it was supposed to do the opposite. What else do you need: your phone overheats, lags, freezes, crashes, apps f/c, ram is under pressure, battery won't properly charge and none of it can be fixed in over 6 months.
Bye bye, LP, for good.
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Let's hope, that these bugs also exist on nexus devices and are not device specific, so that google fixes them in Android M.
Could you tell us which kitkat bulid you are actually using?
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mischa_martin
Slimkat.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z1/development/rom-slimkat-final-edition-built-source-t3045435
I keep reading about these issues plaguing a lot of devices, but I simply can't share the same experiences. And believe me, I'm a power user... I'd notice.
I listen to music while downloading zips, while browsing the forums and my device stays at a comfortable temperature. And it's summer here... 30 Celsius every day at least.
Then, the touch screen freezes is something I know nothing about. Only had it once, on build 5.4.4. of RR.
The memory leak and screen light flickering is something I encounter only on stock...
I don't know what it is about my device, but I'm nothing but thrilled with lollipop.
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I keep reading about these issues plaguing a lot of devices, but I simply can't share the same experiences. And believe me, I'm a power user... I'd notice.
I listen to music while downloading zips, while browsing the forums and my device status at a comfortable temperature. And it's summer here... 30 Celsius every day at least.
Then, the touch screen freezes is something I know nothing about. Only had it once, on build 5.4.4. of RR.
The memory leak and screen light flickering is something I encounter only on stock...
I don't know what it is about my device, but I'm nothing but thrilled with lollipop.
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The stock lollipop roms have driven me to root and install a custom 4.4.4 rom after sticking with stock for the first 18 months or so. Rubbish battery life, heat, redraws in action launcher. Hopefully a good lollipop will appear, and I might flash that through recovery once it's proven. Or maybe with 5.1. But returning to 4.4.4 with customisation is like night and day. Fast, cool, no redraws. Keeping a watch on 5.x
I agree all the custom 5.0.x and 5.1.1 ROMs have countless issues and bugs, heating, poor RAM management but I'd like to appreciate Sony's work with Lollipop. Sony's stock Lollipop is pretty good even for power usage. Though KitKat was definitely one of the better versions of Android. At least our stock Lollipop isn't that bad. As for me I'm going to stick to a rooted stock Lollipop until a stable AOSP ROM comes out, which will take some time, considering KitKat also took ages to fix.
I would like to see BeanStalk with shields up, like Dirty Unicorns and Slimkat :angel: Please! Slimkat is good but Beanstalk has more features.
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I would like to see BeanStalk with shields up, like Dirty Unicorns and Slimkat :angel: Please! Slimkat is good but Beanstalk has more features.
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Edit: Thanks for new Slimkat 10 build, I am still hoping for secured Beanstalk, no chance? Best Regards
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So, I brought this phone two months ago, and have been using it since. However, I find it not very fun to use as there's always frustrating amounts of lag. (Especially in the UI)
On stock 6.0, the UI is a tad bit laggy, but bearable. However, games stutter. On the other hand, running stock 7.0, the UI is horrendously laggy, while games run fine.
I've tried every custom ROM that I could, but this device still seems to be very laggy when it comes to using it, almost to the point of being completely unusable. I do not leave apps open, and clear the cache often, so I don't know what the issue is. It's too late to return it now, too.
Anything I could do to make my phone usable?
This is disappointing, as even my old Moto E ran faster than this phone.
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So, I brought this phone two months ago, and have been using it since. However, I find it not very fun to use as there's always frustrating amounts of lag. (Especially in the UI)
On stock 6.0, the UI is a tad bit laggy, but bearable. However, games stutter. On the other hand, running stock 7.0, the UI is horrendously laggy, while games run fine.
I've tried every custom ROM that I could, but this device still seems to be very laggy when it comes to using it, almost to the point of being completely unusable. I do not leave apps open, and clear the cache often, so I don't know what the issue is. It's too late to return it now, too.
Anything I could do to make my phone usable?
This is disappointing, as even my old Moto E ran faster than this phone.
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What defines lag in your book? Sure, there are a couple micro stutters when pulling the notification shade or switching apps, but lag is generally nonexistent. If you've come from a Pixel, S7, 6P, OP3, etc., then yeah, there's definitely a massive difference.
Also, it's definitely possible that your touchscreen may have issues as well.
Finally, I recommend the following ROMs (I've tried nearly all the ROMs here on XDA) for smoothness/battery:
- Beanstalk 7.1.2
- AOSP-CAF (discontinued but still very good)
- JX's Creampie (stock with mods)
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What defines lag in your book? Sure, there are a couple micro stutters when pulling the notification shade or switching apps, but lag is generally nonexistent. If you've come from a Pixel, S7, 6P, OP3, etc., then yeah, there's definitely a massive difference.
Also, it's definitely possible that your touchscreen may have issues as well.
Finally, I recommend the following ROMs (I've tried nearly all the ROMs here on XDA) for smoothness/battery:
- Beanstalk 7.1.2
- AOSP-CAF (discontinued but still very good)
- JX's Creampie (stock with mods)
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The lag is mostly long UI stutters, but sometimes it gets really bad, especially on Lineage OS based roms. I have a feeling it's something related to single handed mode, though. I might try beanstalk soon.
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The lag is mostly long UI stutters, but sometimes it gets really bad, especially on Lineage OS based roms. I have a feeling it's something related to single handed mode, though. I might try beanstalk soon.
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I've recently installed Lineage on my brand new G4, and I honestly think the phone was better off on stock 7.0, as opposed to the custom rom. I'll agree i think the phone i just a bit stuttery/laggy at times.
I managed to make stock a lot faster by removing Greenify. Battery life seems to be better as well.
The problem does still stick around in Lineage-based roms, and I feel like One-handed mode causes this, since you can't turn it off.
EDIT: I prefer having root and all that.
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I managed to make stock a lot faster by removing Greenify. Battery life seems to be better as well.
The problem does still stick around in Lineage-based roms, and I feel like One-handed mode causes this, since you can't turn it off.
EDIT: I prefer having root and all that.
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Just found your post after searching for stutter in connection with one-handed mode. I only recently bought the G4 Plus as a temporary replacement for my broken Pixel and was a bit frustrated. I felt the G4 was quite stuttery, even tried a standard G5 in a store yesterday and thought "wow, that is a lot smoother.. well it just seems the G4 is a bit more stuttery. Today i compared it to my sisters G4 Plus, which was a lot smoother. You could really see the difference in scrolling and i thought it must be the digitizer or something. So before repackaging to return it to Amazon i tried a factory reset, voila, stutter gone. I tried activating one-haded mode again -> stutter. Deactivate one-handed mode -> stutter gone. So i guess that's the cause.
Disable any night-light app/setting and UI will run fine
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Disable any night-light app/setting and UI will run fine
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It was (reproducible if i activate/deactivate it) actually the one-handed mode, but thanks anyways!
Since quite some time I am having some peculiar performance problems on my Motorola Moto X Force. Sometimes any interaction (like just opening Chrome for example) takes incredibly long until it responds. This also happens after clearing all apps in the task switcher and it can also happen pretty soon after rebooting the phone. Imho a phone with a 4x 2.00GHz Cortex-A57 + 4x 1.50GHz Cortex-A53 (Qualcomm MSM8994 Snapdragon 810, 64bit) and 3 GiB RAM should not have such problems.
Thinking some app might hog the CPU in the background (though I do not have any battery problems - it can go for over 48 hours without charging) I installed some system monitoring apps in order to get to the bottom of this. One app, System Monitor Lite has the ability to log in the background, when enabled. I wanted to check if I can correlate CPU or RAM usage with the periods where the phone runs slow.
However once the background logging of that app is active, the phone immediately runs noticeably smoother! And it runs smooth as long as the background logging is active. Once I turn it off, the phone will get slow again after some time. This makes me think now that this phone (or Android 7.0) has a power management problem. i.e. letting the CPU(s) run in a low performance state, when it should not.
Has anyone else ever experienced something like that or any ideas how to combat this?
Dude that thread is not for moto x force, just the moto x 2013! search the right thread for ur device.
Thread? Do you mean the Moto X General sub forum? There is no Moto X Force sub forum as far as I can see.
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Thread? Do you mean the Moto X General sub forum? There is no Moto X Force sub forum as far as I can see.
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Moto X droid turbo 2 is the name in another variants -- https://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-turbo-2
Thank you, I did not realize that. I only used the Search on the front page. The thread has been moved now.
Hello, friend! I am having problems like yours too. That´s annoying me. I just used this phone from about 1 and a half year without performance issues, but from 2 months until now it started with stock rom, so i rooted and flashed Lineage OS. It runned smoth for a little time (3 weeks), but after that the phone got slower and slower no matter what i did. Got heating problems too, A LOT heating.
So i clean flashed Ressurrection Remix, and it was a charm at beggining! Very smooth, but after a few days it started the same thing as always, but the heating got lower.
So, i´m finished with this phone, i think the "Planned obsolescence" got us. It´s a 2015 phone and makers wants us to move on and buy another.
But, while i dont buy a new phone, i´m accepting the challenge to make my XForce runs smooth again. I´ll try this monitoring app you said and then i´ll flash another rom, the "Stock L!ite" from CrashXXL here on XDA.
I´ll post my feedback here.
Yeah, I'll also just get rid of it soon.
Hi all,
as the title says, what would be the snappiest rom to use today (not necessarily the bleeding edge Android) that is still quite speedy to use on this unit, while not being ancient at the same time?
Difficult question, i know. I resurrected my own unit yesterday (new screen assembly, new battery, new USB pcb. It basically turned out as a brand new device ) and i rooted it, increased the partition size and installed LineageOS 17 on it (tried 18 but had issues).
But would i be better off using Lineage/Android 9 or 8 here? From a snappy-ui perspective, but without going all old-school...?
Hello,
I would also love to know this, I found mine after a couple of years, still working great!! And I would like to maybe update the system as it's still using the stock Android 6. Would it be beneficial to update it? And if so, to which version would you recommend?
Cheers.
While awaiting some nice pointers, i installed LineageOS17.1 + TWRP on mine, and also installed the ElementalX kernel (in order to bump up the cpu speed a notch + undervolt a bit). It surely did help quite much to reduce the sluggishness that it had when i used L.OS18, but its still not 100% perfect. Perhaps Android 8 or even 7 would be the perfect balance??
I'm also in the same position - I've been using Timur's as my Nexus is an indash install but it's so painfully slow if you try and do anything beyond play a song - Maps is near impossible.
Is LineageOS17 stable and quick enough for light usage these days?
Idk man. I finally went all the way down to Nougat (LineageOs14.1) to get it quite smooth (with ElementalX). And it is very fluent mostly, BUT...
If i leave the tablet for a whole day, i have severe issues getting the touch to recognize my fingers to start with (i have to press quite hard for it to register). As the CPU starts heating up (from using it), that sensation vanishes gradually and after a while (10 minutes or so, when i can feel the heat from the CPU from the back-cover) it actually is quite fluent. I have no clue why this is, i just know thats how it is.
I overlocked it to 1.7GHZ and undervolted it one step in elemental.
I'll be following this one with interest. Didn't have high hopes for anything modern, but Lineage sounds nice. Nine year old hardware inside, that's ancient, isn't it. Mine's still all original inside and out, including OS, but I found it in a drawer the other day and it was such a perfect formfactor, size and weight perfect for holding in one hand for reading, etc.
Haha, a timely post for me, as well. Just today I got mine charged for use as a budget desktop "nest hub" now that I got a new Nest doorbell.
It's been a trip reviving this tablet... and seeing it sitting next to my pixel 6 pro, it amazes me to think of how android and these devices have evolved over the years.
I can't even remember what (if any) rom and/or kernel I have installed on it, but it appears to be rooted. If there's something out there that's at least as good as this marshmallow rom to breathe new life into this tablet, that would make my day!
Well, I find that for being such an old device, with LOS18.1 it is working almost flawless. The gyroscope isn't working properly, but with some apps (not root) it is still manageable.
It is still great to play videos and as a docking station. It is a bit slow, but far way better than all 2013 devices, I had almost no stutter with VLC (only once when started, it lost some frames but it was acceptable).
The main drawback I have is that there is no charging+otg, even with QI charge. It could be used as a very cheap and efficient network storage but nope :\
Bumping this thread a bit. I have two wifi units, one running 11 and the other running 6 and while android 6 is quicker, it lacks in the "support" department (i.e running some applications that requires newer software). The 11 unit on the other hand is sluggish as #¤#" (to be expected on such an old device). But as a middle-ground, are there any flavour of (say) Android 9.x that runs somewhat smooth on this device (maybe with some booster such as elementalx on-board)?
So i went and installed Lineageos 16 on the previous Android 6 tablet and it works decently well (its a little bit more sluggish of course). But then i remembered back in the day i was running the ElementalX kernel on some older version in order to overclock the CPU a bit and went looking for some current version of it.
I bought it on the playstore and tried it out (also tried to flash it beforehand) but it seems to stop its support at Android 8
Next up, i bought the "setcpu for root" users (im running Magisk) but it just hangs and does nothing (unfortunately). Are there any "goto" ways to bump the cpu frequencey a tad bit nowadays with Android 9+ OS on this tablet?
Lineage OS 18.1 latest + the LOS18.1 compatible anykernel3 flashable elememtalx + fstrim performed on system + data + cache and its reasonably snappy. If any older android device is running slowly, I always suspect emmc needing a trim personally. Did you let it sit overnight on a charger while powered on before deciding it was too slow (or run the fstrim batch file in cross to make sure you're clean)
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Lineage OS 18.1 latest + the LOS18.1 compatible anykernel3 flashable elememtalx + fstrim performed on system + data + cache and its reasonably snappy. If any older android device is running slowly, I always suspect emmc needing a trim personally. Did you let it sit overnight on a charger while powered on before deciding it was too slow (or run the fstrim batch file in cross to make sure you're clean)
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Which kernel is compatible with latest lineage 18.1?