I'm looking for something that will let me access all my music and movies from my nexus 10. Something that won't need any PC set up our access. I gave my laptop to my girlfriend and use my nexus 10 and galaxy nexus exclusively. I bought a GoFlex 3TB Home yesterday thinking that I could plug it in to my router and a ton of storage fit music and movies. I returned today because after a day of trying to set it up I could not get anything close to a smooth experience. It took me half the day just to register it with seagates servers (the drive is unusable until registered) and the go flex android app is a joke.
Does anyone have a Wi-Fi hard drive set up that doesn't go through a PC? I thought about picking up a go flex satellite but after the goflex home I have no faith in seagates system.
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I'm looking for something that will let me access all my music and movies from my nexus 10. Something that won't need any PC set up our access. I gave my laptop to my girlfriend and use my nexus 10 and galaxy nexus exclusively. I bought a GoFlex 3TB Home yesterday thinking that I could plug it in to my router and a ton of storage fit music and movies. I returned today because after a day of trying to set it up I could not get anything close to a smooth experience. It took me half the day just to register it with seagates servers (the drive is unusable until registered) and the go flex android app is a joke.
Does anyone have a Wi-Fi hard drive set up that doesn't go through a PC? I thought about picking up a go flex satellite but after the goflex home I have no faith in seagates system.
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I was looking at these. They have a bridged mode as well so you can maintain the Internet connection.
http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Wi-D...id=1356746901&sr=8-3&keywords=wifi+hard+drive
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I just picked up one of the Kingston 64gb with drives. Really liking it so far and have had a good experience streaming movies from it, not a ton of storage but would recommend. I got it mainly for traveling with the kids for them to watch movies.
My router has some sort of DLNA thing and a USB port; not entirely sure if it would be usable for storage though, but it should be fine for media streaming.
I use BubbleUPnP to stream media from my PCs to my nexus 10. Its available in the Google Play Store
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Maybe this is what you're looking for :
Sorry - wasn't allowed to post a link. But look out for CloudFTP.
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I picked up the seagate goflex satellite for $100 during the holidays. Stock, It's definitely hindered by the lousy software/firmware, but you can replace it, either on your own or for $35 you can get a package from www.hackseagatesatellite.com. Essentially, you are installing a linux server system on it. You can run SMB, webDav, FTP, iTunes server, or DLNA system. Multiple devices can also stream from it simultaneously.
I haven't tried it, but it also has dropbox and eyefi integration.
The hardware is not fast enough to stream a 30 gb 1080p mkv file. But if you transcode it with handbrake to a reasonable size, it streams well with only an occasional stutter with the stock player.
If you use BS player in LAN mode, and set the buffer to large, It plays the entire 1080p movie without any hiccups or pauses. (Avatar plays beautifully. I am also undervolted and underclocked with the KTmanta kernel)
I'm not quite sure if this would fit your situation but try using a NAS (Network Attached Storage). Then just find an app on the play store that supports streaming from one and viola! You can even take it a step further and download movies onto your N10, then transfer them to the NAS, allowing anyone with access to view/stream content.
I know Newegg has a dedicated section for NAS setups, but I'd consider buying a NAS enabled hard drive bay and tossing in a few old drives. Upgrade-ability + Customization :good:
An additional bonus to using NAS is you do not need a router that supports it in comparison to DLNA /USB support.
I would agree with this, I have the same setup - using an old version of Dlink's DNS-323.
Instead of new comers squandering around looking for solutions to set up the nexus player for gaming and media streaming. Lets simplify things a bit to see what accessories to get and what software to use to get our nexus player to its maximum capability.
Lollirock 1.5 rom (OTG micro usb cable and a usb mouse or keyboard are required during first bootup. It will not detect nexus remote during first bootup)
Stick mount pro(Play Store) Make sure it's the pro version or else it won't work!-
- A must have for external storage. This app enables storage drives to mount into a specific location using symbolic link option which isn't included in the free version. By default, it will mount storage devices under sdcard/usb folder instead of usb:// mount location (apps like emulators or xbmc that uses file explore do not search to this location usb://)
- I have tested it on xbmc, my boy, fpse, and ppsspp.
Known issue: external storage formatted under ntfs will not mount properly. Files will not show up under mount folder.
I'm currently using exFAT format and it seem to work fine so far.
For those who uses stock Nexus Player rom, you have to download stick mount pro from a third party site since the license won't transfer(I'm assuming that you paid for it)
Sixaxis controller(Play Store)
- Can pair up to 2 controllers for two players games. There's also a setting to set dual shock 3 or 4 to run as native android controller, so you don't have to deal with mapping everything manually.
My suggestion
Accessories : Rii 8 wireless touchpad keyboard(Amazon) mini keypad with track pad and qwerty keyboard.
Logitech keyboard k700
Ps4 controller
Inateck card reading+Hub(Amazon) -
- It very important to choose the right otg micro usb cable because it can effect read/write speed for external storage drives, including low power consumption drives such as usb flash drives and sd cards. This hub can run with or without a secondary power source.
I thought something like a flash drive with a low power consumption didn't require a decent otg cable, but it does. I was testing a psp rom off my usb storage with a much simpler micro usb otg cable and the frame rate wasn't that great also the loading time. Transfer files were also very slow. So keep that in mind, make sure to get a decent micro usb otg hub or card reader. At least get one that you can supply power to from an outlet.
For those who are looking to run Amazon prime video, download Kodi (xbmc) and Amazon prime video add-on zip.
-Amazon instant video app is crappy on android to begin with compare to IOS version which has a more user friendly UI similar to Netflix. Kodi improves that with cover arts and tv-friendly user interface.
I couldn't get sixaxis to pair my stupid ps3 controls I don't know what I did wrong...
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I couldn't get sixaxis to pair my stupid ps3 controls I don't know what I did wrong...
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Have you used sixaxis before? I'm just wondering., so I can help you figure out the issue.
I have but I think the problem is I didn't see a Bluetooth address when I set it up on the Nexus player maybe I have to fix the zoom setting in the overscan setting on my Nexus player to see it
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Hello there peeps!
Im thinking of getting rid of my old laptop as my torrentbox/Kodi and fileserver. Its noisy, draws lots of power and it can barely handle 1080p HEVC movies. So Im really longing to buy a Nvidia Shield TV 16GB
Im thinking of buying the 16GB version, putting a 128GB micro-sd card in it and use a powered usb3.0 HUB to connect my current 3 external HDDs to it.
My plans is to let the 128GB micro-sd card act as the torrent partition and storage for the games and apps. When the apps are finished Im moving the stuff to the three external NTFS HDDs and store it on them. All this would be nice to be able to manage with my Android phone. Im thinking that it might be hard on the unit to handle torrents at the same time we watch movies or play games. Is there an app to paus the torrents if the rest needs more resources, or make some kind of script?
Will all this work? Ive read that the Shield TV cant handle more than two external USBs thanks to the limitatons of Android but this can be fixed by rooting it. Is it correct?
You need to get a SMB server app working on it. Google: Funkyfresh Samba
uTorrent has an Android version.
I think Android can handle more than two ext HDD's. My sister has 4-5 HDD's connected to her AFTV, same with my cousin. Try StickMount.
I don't know but I think it's going to be hard to do what you want. I'd buy an Asus ChromeBox, put Win10 on it and use that for Kodi MySQL server, torrent, media, etc.
Ive been curious about this, when you say your sister had 4-5 HDDs connected to AFTV, im assuming she has them connected via some sort of usb hub?
I wouldn't use an SD card for long-term torrenting as they're not very good at handling frequent writing.
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Hello there peeps!
Im thinking of getting rid of my old laptop as my torrentbox/Kodi and fileserver. Its noisy, draws lots of power and it can barely handle 1080p HEVC movies. So Im really longing to buy a Nvidia Shield TV 16GB
Im thinking of buying the 16GB version, putting a 128GB micro-sd card in it and use a powered usb3.0 HUB to connect my current 3 external HDDs to it.
My plans is to let the 128GB micro-sd card act as the torrent partition and storage for the games and apps. When the apps are finished Im moving the stuff to the three external NTFS HDDs and store it on them. All this would be nice to be able to manage with my Android phone. Im thinking that it might be hard on the unit to handle torrents at the same time we watch movies or play games. Is there an app to paus the torrents if the rest needs more resources, or make some kind of script?
Will all this work? Ive read that the Shield TV cant handle more than two external USBs thanks to the limitatons of Android but this can be fixed by rooting it. Is it correct?
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So heres my experience so far: Currently I have 1 external usb 3.0 HDD connected to my shield tv. using an android app called servers ultimate pro, I was able to create multiple file servers. The nice thing is that shield tv is already low powered, but can even go into sleep mode and still run the server (i have a feeling sleep mode just turns off the screen). with servers ultimate, you can get lots of configuration options, limiting the amount of users, ip addresses that can access, you can set up basic rules, and notifications for things like if the server stops or starts, to email, text, pop up a notification, etc. Its pretty nice.
But heres the catch: I've been searching for a solution for over a month now, but transfer rates are slow im getting 5-10MBps on average, but i know the network is capable of more. after searching, it seems to be a limitation of either android, or the protocols the app is using. Another user on here pointed out to me that the SMB protocol for instance, seems to be running SMB v1 (which is already up to like V3- or V4, which are more feature rich and capable of much faster speeds)
then theres the issue of what devices will be accessing it. So far, ive tried my android phone, my windows 10 PC, and an iphone. the android phone can see the servers just fine when configured properly, iphone didn't seem to want to work without any sort of specialized app (which honestly i didn't even try after that point), and windows 10 works, but if you want to map a network drive, your going to need the SMB protocol, and even then it took several weeks of google searching until several tweaks, registry settings, etc finally allowed windows 10 to see my server.
I don't torrent, so unfortunately can't help you on that front, but like another user pointed out, using the sd card will just wear out the amount of times it can read/write. if it does work out for your needs, why not just save directly to the external HDDs?
For the record, I was able to stream using things like kodi or another media player, but i do notice that any initial loading takes several seconds. for example, initial playback will take several seconds to load, but once the video plays, it plays smooth and doesnt stutter or pause, UNLESS i were to try fast forwarding or skipping to another section, then the video takes several seconds again. this all works for my personal needs (for now) but other users might want more demand.
hope any of this helps.
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Ive been curious about this, when you say your sister had 4-5 HDDs connected to AFTV, im assuming she has them connected via some sort of usb hub?
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Yea, both my sister and cousin have the 10 port USB 2.0 hub from Amazon working fine on their Amazon Fire TV's.
Cool, thats good to know. I've been kind of curious about this for in the future (i don't see myself using more than 4 HDD's for whatever server setup i use) Hopefully the shield wont have an issue with this, either. Now just trying to figure out my transfer speed issue. lol
Thank you very much for the experience and help!
This certainly learned me very valuable points
what is the point of putting a server on shield tv?
can you download torrents directly to the shield (hd)?
and would plex be able to see these files?
I have personally done exactly what you are looking for with one of my shield boxes. I installed a Linux chroot on my shield tv (I ended up flashing foll android as it was easier), installed transmission-cli in there, and ran kodi on top then enabled media sharing, and put an ssh server on the machine. Works fantastically.
what does this all enable to do?
This is pretty close to my plans, minus the torrent box and fileserver.
my plan is to load up my new external drive and copy everything from my laptop and existing externals into one location (so I can eliminate duplicates) and then move it to the SHIELD TV and setup KODI so it sees all my files and use it for playback (I can always routinely plan file transfers to it manually thru the USB and computer when I need to add new content), but it would be nice to be able to access the external over the network if possible.
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I have personally done exactly what you are looking for with one of my shield boxes. I installed a Linux chroot on my shield tv (I ended up flashing foll android as it was easier), installed transmission-cli in there, and ran kodi on top then enabled media sharing, and put an ssh server on the machine. Works fantastically.
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Uhm so you are running some kind of Linux or what is foll Android?
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So heres my experience so far: Currently I have 1 external usb 3.0 HDD connected to my shield tv. using an android app called servers ultimate pro, I was able to create multiple file servers. The nice thing is that shield tv is already low powered, but can even go into sleep mode and still run the server (i have a feeling sleep mode just turns off the screen). with servers ultimate, you can get lots of configuration options, limiting the amount of users, ip addresses that can access, you can set up basic rules, and notifications for things like if the server stops or starts, to email, text, pop up a notification, etc. Its pretty nice.
But heres the catch: I've been searching for a solution for over a month now, but transfer rates are slow im getting 5-10MBps on average, but i know the network is capable of more. after searching, it seems to be a limitation of either android, or the protocols the app is using. Another user on here pointed out to me that the SMB protocol for instance, seems to be running SMB v1 (which is already up to like V3- or V4, which are more feature rich and capable of much faster speeds)
then theres the issue of what devices will be accessing it. So far, ive tried my android phone, my windows 10 PC, and an iphone. the android phone can see the servers just fine when configured properly, iphone didn't seem to want to work without any sort of specialized app (which honestly i didn't even try after that point), and windows 10 works, but if you want to map a network drive, your going to need the SMB protocol, and even then it took several weeks of google searching until several tweaks, registry settings, etc finally allowed windows 10 to see my server.
I don't torrent, so unfortunately can't help you on that front, but like another user pointed out, using the sd card will just wear out the amount of times it can read/write. if it does work out for your needs, why not just save directly to the external HDDs?
For the record, I was able to stream using things like kodi or another media player, but i do notice that any initial loading takes several seconds. for example, initial playback will take several seconds to load, but once the video plays, it plays smooth and doesnt stutter or pause, UNLESS i were to try fast forwarding or skipping to another section, then the video takes several seconds again. this all works for my personal needs (for now) but other users might want more demand.
hope any of this helps.
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Thanks for the all the valuable info!
Using the Shield TV as a torrentbox/fileserver/NAS is only temporary until I can afford a real NAS, or preferably get a mini Linux box running as a VPN server and router but that's in the future, in fact Shield tv is also in the future since I can't afford it now =)
But back to your comments, I checked out Ultimate Pro and it seems it's dead but maybe some of its servers works good Regarding SMB I'm thinking of getting another app for SMB sharing.
Another thing I'm wondering is the multitasking abilities of the Shield TV, sure it's by far the most powerful Android TV box but how can it handle torrenting, SMB sharing, running Kodi at the same time? Or do you have to manually manage it? Or get some apps that let you set up certain priorities? And will it be able to game on the Shield while Kodi/SMB/torrents running in the background?
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Thanks for the all the valuable info!
Using the Shield TV as a torrentbox/fileserver/NAS is only temporary until I can afford a real NAS, or preferably get a mini Linux box running as a VPN server and router but that's in the future, in fact Shield tv is also in the future since I can't afford it now =)
But back to your comments, I checked out Ultimate Pro and it seems it's dead but maybe some of its servers works good Regarding SMB I'm thinking of getting another app for SMB sharing.
Another thing I'm wondering is the multitasking abilities of the Shield TV, sure it's by far the most powerful Android TV box but how can it handle torrenting, SMB sharing, running Kodi at the same time? Or do you have to manually manage it? Or get some apps that let you set up certain priorities? And will it be able to game on the Shield while Kodi/SMB/torrents running in the background?
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I don't torrent, so unfortunately I can't help you there, but I have tried using my file server in multiple ways: file transfers & streaming video, while running another app, even streaming games. Here are a few examples of things i've tried:
file transferring a big file to my pc, while gamestreaming on the nvidia shield tv at the same time (worked great. I saw no issues during this time)
file transferring a big file to my pc, while running a local app such as netflix, emulators, youtube, (as you can see i tried both maximizing bandwidth, while even testing lag with cpu intensive tasks. again, worked great)
streaming a 1080p movie from the shield tv, to my pc, while gamestreaming from the same pc, back to the shield tv (seemed to work fine. honestly didnt test this for extended period.)
streaming a 1080p movie from the shield tv to my pc, while running local apps on shield tv such as netflix, emulators, youtube, etc (once again, seemed to work fine)
So as you can see, the shield tv seemed to handle everything i threw at it rather well. i even tried multiple apps for multitasking on the shield and i just honestly did not see any performance hints with the media server, aside from anything youd normally expect on the shield tv. keep in mind i am running on a gigabit ethernet network, wired on both ends, from the shield tv to the router, and router to the pc.
my only issue with it all is as mentioned before: transfer speeds are just barely fast enough, even though i know my network and the device is capable of much faster speeds, but the cpu and ram on the shield tv seemed to handle everything i tried rather well.
as for your comment about trying other smb apps, ive gone through several, and the ones i was able to manage to get working, all ended up with the same speeds as with ultimate servers pro. :\ If you can find something that gives you faster speeds, i would love to hear about it so i can try it. i tried ftp server, smb server, webdav server, etc and all seem to max out at about the same speed.
Thanks for your reply!
It really seems the Shield is awesome and powerful to handle multitasking! I'm longing to get my own!
Crappy about the SMB speeds, let's find solutions to that problems
Hm I havent found any real data on the speed between a computer and an Android device when it comes to SMB...
When I transfer between my old gaming laptop from the external usb2.0 HDDs to my Xperia Z3, I get between 700KB/s to 1100KB/s.
The laptop is connected with Ethernet cable to the Netgear CG3799 router and the Z3 is connected with full connection on 802.11N 5Ghz. Altho the laptop is pretty sweaty atm, its converting old DVDs to HEVC and downloading around 15 torrents
Ill compare speeds later when the laptop isnt as busy
What kind of speeds do you peeps get when transfering between Android devices other devices?
Which Samba app are you using?
Hey folks,
I'm trying the same now. Had an Odroid XU4 as file and MySQL Server and try to replace it for an all in one Shield TV Solution.
I'm running a rooted Shield with SambaDroid for the SMB Share which works fine. And KSWEB Server for MySQL and ftp.
Sometimes it seems like the apps are closing in the background, I don't know why, seems to be a android multitadking problem to free up RAM.
But my biggest problem is the transfer speeds. No matter what protocoll (smb/ftp) I'm not getting more then 8 MB/s read out of the box. I tried to read from internal memory, sdcard and my external HDD. All came out with the same speed connected over GBit LAN to my PC.
Write side it much faster with 20 MB/s what I do not really understand but you need root to write to external memory like sdcard or usb.
So far it works, but it is less then optimal compared to my Ordoid XU4 what did 80MB/s but has no HDMI 2.0 output :/
Maybe Android 6.0 brings more speed for the network because It has to be bottlenecked somewhere in the OS, FTP and SMB showing the same speeds.
What's funny is I was actually doing the reverse of what you're doing. I got my Shield as an Android media center device since my Odroid U2 never seemed up to my standards with Kodi. When HardKernel came out with the XU4 I scooped it up and made it my webserver, after seeing an Android TV rom out for it, I flashed it and now Kodi's UI will lag like crazy after about a half hour of usage.
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I recently bought a Samsung Smart TV and I am trying to create a media hub to attach my external hard drive to so I can watch them on my TV. I want to know if I can use Shield to attach 8 TB hard drive with all my movies and shows on it and watch them on the samsung tv in 4K. I also want to be able to wireless transfer files to/from my external drive using laptop. I tried watching with my laptop (connected via HDMI) and it buffers when it comes to 4K. So does shield help me with this or do I need a different device for this?
I thought the purpose of "smart" TVs was that they could do streaming and such by themselves?
It can stream but content such as 4K buffers because there just isn't CPU power inside them.
The Shield should be able to do that, but I haven't tried it so I can't say for certain. You'll need to connect it to your laptop by the micro-USB cable or install a server app to transfer files.
I want to stream it using content on my external usb drive. So that way I don't have to keep my laptop on all the time. Can I just plug my external drive to one of the USB ports on to the shield and stream it directly? Will there be any buffering or any type of lag when doing this? (Again this is with 4K content)
I can't answer that because I don't have a 4K TV, but it has a fast processor and plays 1080p content just fine. A quick benchmark put the USB3 read speed at about 95 MB/sec.
It can definitely handle 4K media, it is even somewhat future proofed with support for HDR 4K video. There isn't really an easy way to share files from your laptop to it with the Harddrive plugged into the SHIELD TV. I would recommend buying a NAS and connecting your drive unto that since all the NAS will do is send the files over your network to the SHIELD TV. As long as you either have an AC router or gigabit ethernet you should be fine.
Do you recommend any cheap NAS that works? Does it need to have processing power for encoding streams? Or that is done via Shield?
Synology products are nice. You order the hard drive(s) separately.
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Hi,
I have a couple questions about the Shield TV writing to NAS, if anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated.
My network set up is gigabit. I have Virgin Media 350MB Vivid cable connection and all my mains fed devices are wired.
My VM Hub 3 is set in modem mode, connected to an Asus RT-AC87U AC2400 gigabit router (all ports used) which feeds 2 Netgear gigabit 8 port switches, my Asustor AS5002T NAS, and another router set up as a switch for Wi-Fi extension upstairs.
One of the 8 port switches feeds my media devices (TV, TiVo V6 (with LAN), AV Receiver, Blue ray, Droidbox T8, WDTV Live , Mede8er MED800X3D) with no problems - everything works great.
I'm looking to buy the Shield TV 16GB which should make the WDTV Live, Mede8er streamer and Droidbox T8 redundant (hopefully). I think most things on the Shield will work fine but I'm not sure about it being able to write to my NAS.
My NAS is an Asustor AS5002T and has 2 internal 6TB WD Reds set as separated drives and formatted as EXT4, these hold everything (all media, backup for everyone in the house, PC backup images for all my PC's and Laptops). My Media (Movie, TV series, Pictures, home movies etc) is stored in 2 folders on 1 6TB Red (Media 1 and Media 2) I also have 2 4TB WD My Passport's connected to the USB3 ports with NTFS formatting which I use to back up my Media 1 and 2 folders only.
Both Media locations (WD Red and WD Passport) are shared and accessible via my WDTV Live and Mede8er but I only use the Mede8er to scrape metadata information which is then stored on my NAS.
Q1 - can the Shield write this scraped information to the NAS, I use NFS sharing for both my streamers and have had no problems saving scraped data to the relevant folders once scanned with them?
I only scrape my Media1 and Media2 folders on the WD Red drive (with Ext4 formatting) I then have some file comparison backup software to backup onto the WD Passports. All works well.
I have read that the Shield (Android) is unable to write to NTFS partitions over the network and was wondering if Ext4 is any different?
If I can't write data over the network from the shield to the NAS it looks like the only option would be to use the inbuilt movie and picture app, SPMC or Kodi to write the scraped data to an onboard memory location if this is possible (I have no experience with the built in app and very little experience with SPMC and Kodi) but if this is an option I don't mind the learning curve ahead.
Question 2 - all my devices are connected through my Onkyo AV Receiver, is there any issue with the Shield and AV Receiver connections?
sorry for long post, though it better to give as much info as possible...
Hello friend of ShieldTV
Did you get this fixed @greig2000uk ?
I have similar problem:
I have two ShieldTV (2017 / 16GB / 8.0.1) and both are rootet with Magisk.
But i can not WRITE to my attached network storage (NAS) for security reason.
Did you (or anybody) know how to get this fixed?
Some apps (handled by plex) should be allowed to write to my NAS (i did not test this, because this would not solve my problem).
I need WRITE ACCESS for ALL of my installed apps (or even choose some specific apps for myself).
So - if you get this problem managed, pls let us know how to fix this limitation
thank you !!
Hi
Format your NAS drives as EXT4
Set shared folders to allow admin privelages under "Access Control" for read and write
Set apps or network places accessing the NAS with static IP's in your LAN DHCP server
Set NFS priveleges (for the above devices) with the static IP's of your LAN DHCP server for read and write access
hope this helps