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http://mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-shift.shtml
you can see shift review unfortunetly (for most of us) that is in russian
but usually mobile-review.com put english translated version of it's own reviews in english side of their web site in afew days after russian version
recently pawel and his body (boy genus) said shift delayed until febuary
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1811480#post1811480
pawel can you contact mobile-review.com and ask them to try your ways
for calling and phone capablity like removing snap view,etc
sorry for my bad english
god bless
boygenius also has one. so does bangelboy. boy genius im going to i believe send instructions on opening full wm6 tomm. last email said he would hit me up later which probably means tommorow.
That looks like a great review with a lot of info about the shift. I liked the photos
I hope there´ll be a translation soon.
Google language tools are your friend
http://translate.google.com/transla...htc-shift.shtml&langpair=ru|en&hl=en&ie=UTF-8
Dear HTC,
I will buy the shift if a full Windows Mobile GSM PHONE AND GPS capabilities are included. Yes, I am shouting PHONE AND GPS.
Tim
gps is a 100% ,phone htc cant decide on. i sent boygenius the files to make wm6 full. i haven't gotten a reply yet if that did the trick or not.
here's some more "inside" of shift review....
http://jkkmobile.blogspot.com/2008/01/htc-shift-umpc-dissected_15.html
so much fun!!! but It says har to change ram.n looks like easy to change to SSD if shift can boot from other place.
HTC Shift is here..
I was in Taiwan today, I called HTC and they said they have the HTC Shift. I told him I wanted want, but they said they cannot sell it yet. So much for getting me excited during the few seconds
hi greatest kelvin
anything about phone capablity?making calls?
no voice calls
they told me it does not have voice calls.
We do know that is does in fact have the Qualcomm MSM7200 correct? If so then unless they altered the chip(unlikely) it has quad band voice capabilities. Just needs to get "unlocked". I'm confident our XDA hackers can figure it out and make the rest of us happy as clams.
I don't really care about voice capabilities. I use my loptop on the road with wirless card all the time, and I have a phone to make a voice call, but if you could open WM to full extend, and make it to access files stored on harddrive and SD card. That would be very helpful. So I wouldn't have to sync my cell (PPC) phone with computer all the time. Otherwise Shift has a nice forms and size, but that's it! At advertised prices it is MORE than just overpriced
juiceppc said:
We do know that is does in fact have the Qualcomm MSM7200 correct? If so then unless they altered the chip(unlikely) it has quad band voice capabilities. Just needs to get "unlocked". I'm confident our XDA hackers can figure it out and make the rest of us happy as clams.
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I have read on many website that the SHIFT is A REAL PHONE ... but I think that it will be different depending on the country .. I think that France and Belgium could have phone, while Spain , England and USA will have only SMS.
Not sure about it, just trying to put the things together !
I'm a bit confused whether this has a phone or not. In this HTC Shift Review it says that the phone is not working.
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I'm a bit confused whether this has a phone or not. In this HTC Shift Review it says that the phone is not working.
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the review is right.. the shift IS NOT A PHONE and there is no voice capabilities right now... you can only send and receive SMS nothing else.
but we think that we will be able to use it as a phone when we will have been able to make cooked roms
Thanks. It would be pretty odd when you're walking and you have a 7 inch phone on your ear. Of course there's always the head phones but I guess HTC is right in taking out the phone function on this one. Then again, there's always skype.
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Thanks. It would be pretty odd when you're walking and you have a 7 inch phone on your ear. Of course there's always the head phones but I guess HTC is right in taking out the phone function on this one. Then again, there's always skype.
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I think that they are totally wrong ... phone is what we all need in a computer .. have you never been listening to music with head phones and then get a call on you mobile phone ?
Sure, the shift is not a MOBILE PHONE... but it could be a computer WITH phone capability ... I will bring the SHIFT in my pocket and I would really love to use it as a phone .. They could have let the choice to the user ... why the user is just a buyer and not a customer ?
After reading a lot of threads i am quite confused with the "phone" issue as it is not clearly described anywhere.
Ok, i've understood that phone functionality is possible but...
Can we make calls?
Does it work well?
What issues do we have with making calls?
Is it fully working?
Josasp said:
After reading a lot of threads i am quite confused with the "phone" issue as it is not clearly described anywhere.
Ok, i've understood that phone functionality is possible but...
Can we make calls?
Does it work well?
What issues do we have with making calls?
Is it fully working?
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Yes, yes, none, yes.
Only problem is that you cannot use any headset.
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Yes, yes, none, yes.
Only problem is that you cannot use any headset.
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Can we make calls in a phone-ish way (device to ear) or do we need to use speakerphone?
Forgive me if my questions sound stupid but i dont have a shift yet.
There is no internal speaker
WHen using the HTC Shift to make calls, you must always enable speakerphone (some roms do it automatically)
So there's no way of having a private conversation with your Shift,
unless you really are alone in the room, train, planet.
There were some people trying to get the earphone working, but since
GSM calling was released, nothing happened above the surface.
The headphone + mic is important as it completes GSM calling feature.
phoneless almost
Josasp said:
After reading a lot of threads i am quite confused with the "phone" issue as it is not clearly described anywhere.
Ok, i've understood that phone functionality is possible but...
Can we make calls?
Does it work well?
What issues do we have with making calls?
Is it fully working?
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so the answer to this becomes yes, no, some, no
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so the answer to this becomes yes, no, some, no
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Too bad would really to use it as a primary phone.
Where are we on headset connectivity?
Do we have any clue on how to implement it?
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Too bad would really to use it as a primary phone.
Where are we on headset connectivity?
Do we have any clue on how to implement it?
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I was working on it, but then some kind of bounty bounced for doing this, so I gave up to leave the team of bounty hunters work for this.
Seriously, I might have some time for this in september.
Is that really a reason you stopped ? If so , I will put out a bounty to stop all other bounties... So I'll pay everyone off to let you do your magic
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Is that really a reason you stopped ? If so , I will put out a bounty to stop all other bounties... So I'll pay everyone off to let you do your magic
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No, I just started a huge project for work that I'll finish in two weeks.
I can do it all!!!
Hey i could make calls, using a headset, and even using a bluetooth headset!!!
My Shift takes no more then 400mb ram and can even play back 720HD movies.
Music sounds great on it and the battery! well what can I say, the battery lasts for 9 hours on a single charge!!!!!
I am also using the SD card on the WM side and running Tomtom7!!!!
oh wait
then i woke up with a wet patch on my PJ's damn it was only a wet dream!!!!!!
thaihugo said:
I was working on it, but then some kind of bounty bounced for doing this, so I gave up to leave the team of bounty hunters work for this.
Seriously, I might have some time for this in september.
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Any news on this thaihugo? I'd slip a fiver into your paypal account if you got this working!
EDIT: Ok so bounty at the moment is:
vinokirk: £5
Josap: £5
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Total £10
Come on Thaihugo, imagine that £10 burning a hole in your paypal account!
word, same here
Josap, maybe you can change the title of this thread to:
'Headset phone function, do we have it or not? !!!Bounty now £10!!!'
or something!?
last time there was a bounty, I decided NOT to work on the subject
I would hate seeng someone grab it before me...
Seriously, I have no more time for this anymore, But if somebody makes a breakthrough, I can help.
Well in my case could donate you for the work you put in and promise i woulnt give it to someone else
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last time there was a bounty, I decided NOT to work on the subject
I would hate seeng someone grab it before me...
Seriously, I have no more time for this anymore, But if somebody makes a breakthrough, I can help.
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Could you at least tell us how far you got?
Do you still have your Shift?
So let me get this right. At the moment we can:
a)Use the loudspeaker of the Shift to hear people, and
b)Use the mic to speak to people.
Basically its like a regular phone on loudspeaker, am I right? Can you plug in headphones and hear the person your speaking to and talk to them with the mic
And the ultimate goal would be to either:
a)get a wired 3.5mm earpiece+mic working,or
b)get a bluetooth headset+mic working
Now some questions:
1)Thaihugo when you said 'i might have some time for this in september', were you going to look at wired or Bluetooth headset conectivity? Where were you going to start looking?
2)Is the 3.5mm socket a plain 3.5mm socket that will just outputs sound or is it the special type that also allows the input of audio?
3)Is the 3.5mm socket useable for audio output on the WM side? i.e. if you listen to an mp3 thru WMP on the WM side, can you hook up some headphones and the sound will come out.
If you could have a look at my questions and answer them to the best of your knowlege that would be great! I havent got my Shift yet but I am serious about trying to improve it. The main thing for me is SD card access. I woud like to know as much info about that as possible, to find out where people have got with it.
The connector supports a mic/headset as it is also included. However it is only usable on Vista side for apps ie Skype.
SD access is unlikely but in the unlikely event that it would be possible we would most likeley get WiFi too since as it is a SDIO card.
As I said in another post, I still have the shift but no time for this. And also, I'm not part of the people who received more than 3000$ for this job. And no, I don't want any bounty, I'm just fed up to take the interim for a shift project that never delivered a think, and just complained when I released anything before their supposed "nearly ready" roms.
If you start a group of your own, and make signficant breaktrough, I will happily jump in it and help. But searching alone, for Saiweb or me, has it's limit. Cmonex is not a rom developer, she is more on the SPL radio side, pof seems to be off the shift forum. This product is aging. Try and think if you really want to involve in it's customisation.
I've posted some other post recently where I state that Shift team has delivered beyond expectation. Reading this, I'd say : Due to many efforts from many people , the Shift got functionality beyond expectations. Dunno who's who anymore.
The Shift deserves SD access and BT. Like BattleStar Galactica deserved a remake.
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As I said in another post, I still have the shift but no time for this. And also, I'm not part of the people who received more than 3000$ for this job. And no, I don't want any bounty, I'm just fed up to take the interim for a shift project that never delivered a think, and just complained when I released anything before their supposed "nearly ready" roms.
If you start a group of your own, and make signficant breaktrough, I will happily jump in it and help. But searching alone, for Saiweb or me, has it's limit. Cmonex is not a rom developer, she is more on the SPL radio side, pof seems to be off the shift forum. This product is aging. Try and think if you really want to involve in it's customisation.
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Yes I am sure i want to start developing for the Shift! Imagine if I and other said the same thing you did about old cars, take my dads 1949 Cadillac Coupe DeVille, if we had said that about them then there woud be none left!
Could you perhaps PM me how far you got. Were you looking at the bootloader, hardware etc. Seriously any help would be appreciated
Is this a deal breaker for anyone?
http://androidcommunity.com/sprint-evo-4g-wont-do-simultaneous-voice-data-20100329/
I think it's only a big deal in Iphone commercials
Well I guess 4g data and 3g talk is a go not sure how to change the thread title. PM me if you know how.
if this holds up it is not cool. Ive been drooling over this phone for 2 weeks, but with this question in the back of my mind the whole time. ive been an AT&T customer for 5+ years and didnt even know this was an issue untill AT&T came out with the commercials a while back. I was like "what, not everyone can do this??"
I read online that this is not a hardware limitation and could be fixed with a future OTA update.
http://www.androidcentral.com/sprint-clarifies-voice-data-evo-4g
Voice + Wifi = Yes.
Voice + 3G = No.
Voice + 4G = TBD, testing.
I actually never realized I couldn't use data while talking until those commercials ... and I've been using Sprint pda-phones since 2001.
Sprint tweeted that it's still testing so it's possible by the time the phone is released we will be able to do both. But frankly 4g is in so few areas that I doubt it's going to make much of a diff to most ppl. It will be good for the hotspot feature.
can someone name a use for using data while on a call?
I've use Voice and Data at the same time all the time on my G1. I'm either talking to my wife and she needs directions or a phone number and I look it up using Google Maps. Really easy and fast.
Yea AT&T isn't the only one that can do it. I do it on T-Mobile all the time with my Nexus, used to do it with my G1. I'm on a phone call and I get a text. I'm on the phone and I can just launch my browser or Google Maps or Gmail right away and do whatever I want, pretty cool.
Actually Sprint and Verizon can do SMS and voice at the same time too. It's voice and data that they can't handle.
I guess it helps working in the tech industry, if I ever get a call I'm usually around a computer which is faster for looking stuff up anyways...
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can someone name a use for using data while on a call?
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REALLY? many uses but here is one: my phone is tethered to my laptop. a phone call comes in i am in the middle of sending out emails to clients i can talk and do that at the same time but on sprint you cant. basically tons of reason when im on the phone with someone and a topic comes up i may Google it while we are talking. What do you use your phone for?
You must be a very busy person. Emailing while talking to people at the same time, also that the email must go out immediately during the call instead of after. Must be like a CEO of some company or something =P
I guess I must be getting old, I use my phone for talking on the phone, and when I'm not talking I'm doing the other stuff on it... I'm sorry if that was surprising to hear I was questioning what others are doing while they're talking.
I somewhat laughed at the att&t commercial when a person popped out and downloaded monopoly while talking to someone... are people so uninteresting that you must entertain yourself while you talk to them? And why didn't he just download it before... I don't know, it just seems like a gimmick to me, I can honestly say I've never wished I had that functionality. I guess that's why I asked.
its not a deal breaker for me but honestly if I'm in the car I tend to turn gps on just because I'm a nerd and like looking at new places or not having to find a way looking at traffic and such. and when I'm going to new places I tend to GPS it and not being able to make or take a call when I'm on the road with a chance of losing my barrings is well, bad.
I just realized, idk if other phones use data and voice for video calling but with it being a front facing camera for video calling, I would think they will def offer the data+voice.
-Charlie
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You must be a very busy person. Emailing while talking to people at the same time, also that the email must go out immediately during the call instead of after. Must be like a CEO of some company or something =P
I guess I must be getting old, I use my phone for talking on the phone, and when I'm not talking I'm doing the other stuff on it... I'm sorry if that was surprising to hear I was questioning what others are doing while they're talking.
I somewhat laughed at the att&t commercial when a person popped out and downloaded monopoly while talking to someone... are people so uninteresting that you must entertain yourself while you talk to them? And why didn't he just download it before... I don't know, it just seems like a gimmick to me, I can honestly say I've never wished I had that functionality. I guess that's why I asked.
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yes i do run two companies and i am on the phone for an hour at a time during conference calls that can get boring.
Not even a bother for me and has never been in my 11 yrs on Sprint.
I have a Verizon Blackberry as my company phone and AT&T as a personal phone. The only time not being able to use data and voice at the same time is waiting for an email to send or recieve. It has never been a big issue for me. Annoying sometimes.
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can someone name a use for using data while on a call?
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Anyone that likes to do 3 things at once, like myself, would really like this feature!!! I assume Sprint will realize that this is important to people and enable it on 4G only. Technically / theoretically no barrier exists and the hardware and software could be designed to support this feature going forward... I guess we need to wait to see what Sprint decides to do. Please don't be penny wise & pound foolish Sprint, yeah I know... wishful thinking!!!!
It's a big difference between GSM and CDMA, GSM can do voice + data, but CDMA can not
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its not a deal breaker for me but honestly if I'm in the car I tend to turn gps on just because I'm a nerd and like looking at new places or not having to find a way looking at traffic and such. and when I'm going to new places I tend to GPS it and not being able to make or take a call when I'm on the road with a chance of losing my barrings is well, bad.
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I thought I was the only geek doing this.
I don't need for my phone to be able to do both at the same time but, heck, I joined this forum to make my phone do things it wasn't originally supposed to be able to do.
Since it was mentioned that this is a software issue, it would only be a matter of time before someone could get it to work.
is there a way to enable camera flash while talking on the phone???
I would love this idea! Anyone know how to enable it? I'd love to have this!
is there a way to enable camera flash while talking on the phone???
You could try the HTC flashlight app. Search these forums for that.
I recommend this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581382
i think the idea we are looking for is that when you are on a call, the led flas on the camera is automatically activated. lol. you guys are hilarious providing an app i must, myself activate during an in call.. lol
can anyone help?
I cant think of a single reason you would want to have this? Maybe its just me, but what's the point, am i missing something obvious?
The only thing that would happen is you blind people walking past you and basically inviting thieves to the presence of a hi tech device.
lol, no, it wont be THAT bright. lol. being an avid ex-japanese keitai user, their devices have an led in the front that indicates a lot of things.
damn, come to think about it i miss keitais. they are so functional that anyone outside of japan would never understand their technology.
1) talk about 3g right? i mean, they've have it light-years much before we (USA) got it. and still today, it is not even that popular.
2) Felica chips - who carry cash or credit cards any more?
3) and the list goes on and on and on...
anyone can make a program that can light up the led (ever so dimly) when on call?
Hello Peeps
I'm gunna b going to the island Antigua soon in January and would like to know if there's anyone out there that can flash an EVO 4G so I can use my phone while im in the islands. FYI: im gunna b there for quite sum time in case ur wondering
P.S. Also I heard there's a service called lime that's offered there i know this is a cdma fone and that only GSM phones work there I'm not retarded, I'm also aware that CDMA fones are no good there but I would pay u if u can find me a way , like I always say when there's a will there's always a dam way.
(DAM EVO 4G Y WON'T U WORK WITH MY DAM WII REMOTE STUPID BLUETOOTH STACK)
You answered your own question. CDMA phones are no good there. There is no way around that.
On a side note, PLEASE use punctuation and spelling correctly. It doesn't make you look very bright when you talk like that. It could be just me, but I find stuff like that REALLY annoying. ._.
Instead of paying someone for a solution that won't appear anytime soon, why don't you just spend that money on a gsm phone and buy the sim cards for service over there? Is it the 4G service that you want or the wifi tethering you were hoping to utilize?
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You answered your own question. CDMA phones are no good there. There is no way around that.
On a side note, PLEASE use punctuation and spelling correctly. It doesn't make you look very bright when you talk like that. It could be just me, but I find stuff like that REALLY annoying. ._.
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When I went to Antigua this year I bought an unlocked Blackberry and took it down with me. Just buy a prepaid sim while down there. I was there for 2 weeks so I don't know if you will find it worth your while.
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And about you Wii remount question, CyanogenMod 6 will find it.
ualeem said:
Hello Peeps
I'm gunna b going to the island Antigua soon in January and would like to know if there's anyone out there that can flash an EVO 4G so I can use my phone while im in the islands. FYI: im gunna b there for quite sum time in case ur wondering
P.S. Also I heard there's a service called lime that's offered there i know this is a cdma fone and that only GSM phones work there I'm not retarded, I'm also aware that CDMA fones are no good there but I would pay u if u can find me a way , like I always say when there's a will there's always a dam way.
(DAM EVO 4G Y WON'T U WORK WITH MY DAM WII REMOTE STUPID BLUETOOTH STACK)
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Do a search for a VOIP solution in these forums. I remember reading where someone went to Belize and was able to mod their EVO to work there. Similar situation to yours.
To the lame people who commented that it's impossible: Advancement is only made when it is believed that there is an answer and that is possible. Then you have to keep searching until you find that answer. Don't expect it to be handed to you. Saying something is impossible without trying is just plain lazy. Let go of your mother's tit!
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I always use brightroam.com whenever I go overseas.
You can rent everything and have a blackberry or cheapo phone already setup to use over there. It's signficantly cheaper then getting service when you arrive. They mail you the phone, you set it up and take it with you. Plus you can always google coupon codes w/ them. "15AEREWARD" gets you $15 off.
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Do a search for a VOIP solution in these forums. I remember reading where someone went to Belize and was able to mod their EVO to work there. Similar situation to yours.
To the lame people who commented that it's impossible: Advancement is only made when it is believed that there is an answer and that is possible. Then you have to keep searching until you find that answer. Don't expect it to be handed to you. Saying something is impossible without trying is just plain lazy. Let go of your mother's tit!
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Even with VOIP he's regulated to only WiFi which is a pretty shoddy solution. But hey, that might be good enough for him.
As far as saying it's lame to think it's impossible, unless you open the EVO and physically change the radio, and then update the software to reflect that change, it is. So sure it's not 100% impossible, just impracticable and almost impossible. But hey, now I know who to go to when I want my XBox 360 to play PS3 games.
Lol @ thetakara yea it may be annoying but dis ain't no english class, @ sombdy I like ur enthusiasm im behind u 100%, lmao let go of ur mother's tit lol, i'll look into dat website rutter09. as for bb...yea blackberries not my thing but mite as well go 4 a gsm fone
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Do a search for a VOIP solution in these forums. I remember reading where someone went to Belize and was able to mod their EVO to work there. Similar situation to yours.
To the lame people who commented that it's impossible: Advancement is only made when it is believed that there is an answer and that is possible. Then you have to keep searching until you find that answer. Don't expect it to be handed to you. Saying something is impossible without trying is just plain lazy. Let go of your mother's tit!
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that has got to be the dumbest response i've ever seen.. str8 up its impossible, regardless of how lazy you think ppl are.. it was an easy call.. its the very reason u havent seen iphones on the verizon network.. its not possible. we're talking two diff technologies (cdma vs gsm) in antigua, all cell companies are gsm..
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that has got to be the dumbest response i've ever seen.. str8 up its impossible, regardless of how lazy you think ppl are.. it was an easy call.. its the very reason u havent seen iphones on the verizon network.. its not possible. we're talking two diff technologies (cdma vs gsm) in antigua, all cell companies are gsm..
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So don't pursue running cdma on a gsm network. You can run a VOIP hack. That has been done. The point is I see people respond frequently with "that's not possible" when the truth is they just don't know the answer. People are hacking their phones to run on Verizon and boost mobile. What if people had said "that's impossible" before someone found the answer? Pretty dumb.
The point of my post was that it is not constructive to say that it is impossible. The reason for these forums is to help each other find the answers we need.
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Award Tour said:
But hey, now I know who to go to when I want my XBox 360 to play PS3 games.
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lol......that's a funny and accurate analogy.
Considering your grammar errors and complete arrogance when called out on those errors, I sincerely hope your reasoning for going to Antigua for an extended period of time is not for the purpose of attending medical school.
sombdy said:
Do a search for a VOIP solution in these forums. I remember reading where someone went to Belize and was able to mod their EVO to work there. Similar situation to yours.
To the lame people who commented that it's impossible: Advancement is only made when it is believed that there is an answer and that is possible. Then you have to keep searching until you find that answer. Don't expect it to be handed to you. Saying something is impossible without trying is just plain lazy. Let go of your mother's tit!
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You are correct. It can be done.