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I need a solid (tmobile) phone off contract. I am aware the g2 is almost a year old... on ebay good units are going for $230-ish, and I'm unwilling to shell out $400+ on a device that'll depreciate by 50% within a year. This leaves the G2 and the samsung vibrant, and the vibrant subforums tell me that development is all but dead for that device. If you have any other suggestions for phones in my price range (<300ish) then please do let me know.
I've been a long time user of the OG G1/dream, so I'm looking for something with an active dev community and some choices when it comes to fast and stable roms. How are the roms that you folks are running on your G2's?
Any common hardware issues with roms (like gps)?
Are some units unrootable? What should I look for when I'm buying a used device? What's S-off?
Please excuse all the questions. I appreciate your help.
Yes, I would reccomend the HTC Vision (G2). S-OFF means security off, or on (S-ON), as the case may be. Development is anything but dead for this device, IMHO. There exist rooting guides regardless of your current Android version and plenty of different ROMs. Although you will have to downgrade from the official 2.3 update, if need be. But again, there are excellent guides here on XDA. That's my 2 cents.
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Just as stated above the downgrade guide worked for me I traded a g2x for a g2 plus cash due to developement being almost non existant and as its a downgrade in performance its an upgrade in developement. This phone is great you might wanna look into buying a new spring for whatever usedg2 you buy I ordered mine today and you can pick up a used g2 for as little as 80$ with no battery or back cover on craigslist. But they run for around 100 to 200 in houston I wouldn't spend more than 200 for this phone just cause its a tad old my opinion hope I helped
I own a G2 and a vibrant, but I use my G2 because it is a bit more compact, has keyboard, has better call quality and slightly better battery life. I keep the vibrant as backup (we use it on wifi and call it the mini tablet)
The G2 is more complicated to root than vibrant (needs adb), but I've succesfully rooted mine from 2.2 and my wife's from 2.3.4. The samsung merely required downloading a couple things on my computer, then a one click root. We both currently run MIUI ROM because we like the abundance of themes, options and better than stock battery life.
My wife's phone did succumb to the black screen issue known with G2s, luckily it was still under HTC 1 year warranty. That was how I had to learn to root 2.3.4 once we got the phone back.
The biggest issue I've had with the samsung was missing calls. It was having issues maintaing signal in my house. My G1 had no issue, and my G2 is better than the vibrant. The vibrant is very thin, amazingly thin.
Hope that helps.
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i downgraded my Desire Z about 2 days ago and its all rooted now, im definatly no expert on the subject but the guides i used worked fine for me as long as you can follow instructions
oh and as a tip from a noobie
* copying items per usual CTRL + C will take you out of shell remember that copying in CMD can be done by pressing the ENTER key.
that was the reason i screwed up first time xD
desire Z is great only the battery life has bugged me so far.
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I need a solid (tmobile) phone off contract. I am aware the g2 is almost a year old... on ebay good units are going for $230-ish, and I'm unwilling to shell out $400+ on a device that'll depreciate by 50% within a year. This leaves the G2 and the samsung vibrant, and the vibrant subforums tell me that development is all but dead for that device. If you have any other suggestions for phones in my price range (<300ish) then please do let me know.
I've been a long time user of the OG G1/dream, so I'm looking for something with an active dev community and some choices when it comes to fast and stable roms. How are the roms that you folks are running on your G2's?
Any common hardware issues with roms (like gps)?
Are some units unrootable? What should I look for when I'm buying a used device? What's S-off?
Please excuse all the questions. I appreciate your help.
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$230 is too much. I see them on craigslist frequently in the $150-180 range. it's still worth it, but why pay %50 more if you don't have to ?
the g1 is a great device. reliability has been great for ours. my son uses a g1 and it might get reboot once every 3 months, constant wifi, and used mostly for youtube and as a camera. the g2 is a better device. much much faster, in every way.
i don't know of a gps issue. both of ours pick up GPS in 3-4 seconds unless we're in a canyon. takes longer then.
all units are rootable. there is a section here http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=HTC_Vision#Rooting_the_G2 that should be exactly what you need to complete root.
i would suggest checking the camera lense with a bright light very carefully. mine has a hairline crack, and it effects some photos depending on orientaion. i bought it USED, as I do everything. exchanged a couple of them for different hardware problems, but most likely related to hard use (women).
i use cyanogenmod 'nightlies' on mine. they're very fast, stable, and feature packed.
also, the reasons we'll be sticking with G2's for the extended future:
excellent camera
dedicated camera button
dedicated volume rocker
sensible headphone jack placement
very good cellular signals
very good wifi signals
very good bluetooth (map transfers in the woods with no data available on cellular)
the hardware keyboard is EXCELLENT < this alone is a deciding factor, it's very very good, and we are hardware people. no touch screen keyboard can compare in our opinion.
very good battery life: EDGE and underclocking agressively means no charging needed on camping trips, and LOTS of pictures
also 720p HD video capable. it's very good quality.
excellent noise cancelling
excellent call quality
loud external speaker
good luck !
If you're buying a used one, test everything you can before you lay down the cash!
Bring along some earphones, plug them in and make sure you can hear audio (tests the audio jack)
If possible, Bring along a microUSB cable and plug the phone into a PC. Make sure the phone charges and is recognized by the PC. Put the phone into USB mode and make sure you see the contents of the phone's SD Card (tests the USB connector)
If an micro SD card isn't included, bring one alone and test it on the phone. Somethimes the connector gets trashed.
Test the physical keyboard, make sure each key registers.
If possible, test the SIM slot too -- plug in a good SIM card and make sure there's no error.
Slide the keyboard open and closed repeatedly. make sure the screen doesn't act strangely (flickering could be a sign of a bad connector cable)
What else?
I don't think "women" are responsible for hardware issues with your phone, ohgood.
And to the OP, there are known GPS issues. Not everyone has them, and there are fixes out there. So, although it is a known issue, it should not be a deal breaker. I just upgraded radios, installed the stock HTC GPS drivers (on an AOSP ROM), and GPS locks in 5 seconds and stays that way for hours while using navigation. Granted all these things were not necessary, but they have improved my cell & GPS signals.
It is truly a great phone, had mine since january and don't regret it one bit
PROS-fast,never lags,now has android 2.3,good screen size & quality,every app I ever dl works great with the G2,great camera and video,battery can be great if u add apps such as an app killer & 2g-4g switch(I can easily go a full day on heavy use switched on 2g then I just switch it to 4g when using internet browing) & an awsome keyboard.
Only CONS in my opinion are- kinda on the heavy side & thick (advantages of having a hardware keyboard) & I feel it lacks a front facing camera
Hope this helps
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Great phone, had mine for about a week. I like the keyboard and once you get used to it you can type pretty fast, overall the device is pretty snappy and works well. The z hinge is okay, there is a bit of shake when the device is closed and youre using the touch screen, and my device has a bit of dust under the screen. I paid 320 AUD for mine brand new, I haven't rooted it and I'm running stock gingerbread with HTC sense
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A perfect phone.... I donno why but I feel the keys a bit harder... and the missing front camera.
Hi,
I'm a fresh user of this device (bought it new a week ago on contract) and I absolutely love the keyboard. I was a G1 user that switched to iP4 but lasted only 7 months. Physical keys are a must I do agree that front cam would be nice but since it's not a feature I would use on a daily basis then I agreed to the fact. Battery isn't awesome but lasts a day. Great signal strenght, wifi locks and holds nicely, havent had a chance to test GPS.
So far on stock 2.3.4 but dunno for how long
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Beyond worth it phone. To my knowledge, its the fastest single core phone with the best battery life. U heard the guy testimonial on taking it camping. On an AOSP rom, 4g/3g, bluetooth, gps, wifi off, it uses next to no power. I mean its sick. Ive tested it and left it sitting alone for 2days and came back to it saying 99% battery.
Pros:
Its safely overclocked to 1.2GHz because Processor was designed to run at 1GHz
Keyboard (Includes 3 shortcut buttons. +2more if ya use the search button too)
Camera quality
Huge active developing community
Quality materials, I mean its solid built, no denying that.
Runs every app I throw at it with no issues.
Superb wireless quality (Signal (3g/4g/Calls), wifi, gps, bluetooth are just AWESOME)
Rocker is the right size, sensitivity (Mentioned because its perfect for at work and changing songs w/o the need to take it out my pocket ^_^ )
Headphone jack is solid (Had a Moto Cliq that was iffy)
Cons:
No front facing camera (Honestly those who have it, rarely use it cause U can just call the person)
Only 2 Color indicator
Hefty/Weight (To me a benefit cause it dont fall out or drop)
Lil outdated manufactor wise.
I honestly dont feel its outdated tho because any experienced android user will tell ya. Getting the first batch of a new technology has downfalls 1/2 - 1year later. Case in point, all the buyers of the first Dual-Core phones envy those who got the Dual-Core and 3d after less then a year later. My thing is, Ill wait until the 3d been fine tuned a bit and I bet it will be perfected.
2more things. It has a KEYBOARD. The wireless in it is beyond great. I never had a dropped call, problem with gps, wifi or bluetooth. In fact I hook my bluetooth up to my radio and can walk 15 feet away w/o a problem. I enjoyed it when I can go in my trunk, adjust my "thump in the trunk" and change the volume/song wirelessly.
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I would like to know your opinion. I really want to upgrade my phone. As most of you know Nexus 5 battery and camera are not great and after 2 years I own it battery is getting bad. We have 2 new Nexuses out but for some reason I`m not a big fan of them. I already studied threads on XDA and it seems N5X isn`t a big upgrade for N5. Ofc camera is better but the rest is a bit disappoiting. N6p is too expensive for me as I live in Europe. Paying 649 euro for 32 GB is too much for me. Also there is a lot of concerns about the build quality.
So I came up with idea to give a chance to OPT. I already got an invitiation but still can`t make the decision wheater to buy it or not. Specs looks amazing so the build quality. Camera is fine and battery seems to be a lot better than my N5. The only concerns are the finger print sensor that is not as accurate and fails sometimes to read the print and software that comes with it. I read that a lot of apps crashes, some of them like Google Maps only works in horizontal mode etc. Is it really that bad ? Should I avoid coming from Nexus device to chinese brand ? I also heard that Oneplus support is really poor. Waiting for weeks to get the answer through the ticket system.
I would like you to share your opinion about that matter please. Still have 24h before invitation expires. Thank you !!
Hey,
I had a similar problem. I changed the N5 on the OPT and my impressions are these:
+ Battery is much better.
+ Fingerprint reader works well.
+/- Dual sim is an advantage, but to automatically identify, with the sim card I want to call and write text messages are annoying and every 1-2 days I have to re-adjust to manual selection (I use a personal phone number and buisness phone number).
+/- Camera takes good photos, but there are problems with slow autofocus.
+/- In everyday use I do not see much difference in performance between the OPT and N5 (everything running smoothly).
- Lack of NFC and QI charge (although I admit that in N5 did not use these features).
- I suggest you immediately buy a case or backcover, because the back of the phone has an unpleasant structure of sandpaper.
I'll hope I helped you. I apologize in advance for grammar
Coming from a nexus 5 myself. I love the OPT. I have no complaints about the phone itself.
My only concern is development, hopefully that will change once the phone is released to the masses, dropping the invite system.
With the OPX now released I wonder will many people who were going to buy the OPT now purchase the X instead... Will have to wait and see.
For me everything except the heating of device because of SD 810 and bugs in OxygenOs here and there works nice. If you don't care about heating issue this will be a good buy.
ralph78 said:
HI
I would like to know your opinion. I really want to upgrade my phone. As most of you know Nexus 5 battery and camera are not great and after 2 years I own it battery is getting bad. We have 2 new Nexuses out but for some reason I`m not a big fan of them. I already studied threads on XDA and it seems N5X isn`t a big upgrade for N5. Ofc camera is better but the rest is a bit disappoiting. N6p is too expensive for me as I live in Europe. Paying 649 euro for 32 GB is too much for me. Also there is a lot of concerns about the build quality.
So I came up with idea to give a chance to OPT. I already got an invitiation but still can`t make the decision wheater to buy it or not. Specs looks amazing so the build quality. Camera is fine and battery seems to be a lot better than my N5. The only concerns are the finger print sensor that is not as accurate and fails sometimes to read the print and software that comes with it. I read that a lot of apps crashes, some of them like Google Maps only works in horizontal mode etc. Is it really that bad ? Should I avoid coming from Nexus device to chinese brand ? I also heard that Oneplus support is really poor. Waiting for weeks to get the answer through the ticket system.
I would like you to share your opinion about that matter please. Still have 24h before invitation expires. Thank you !!
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I came from a nexus 4 then had a oneplus one and now a OPT. The phone is great. Oxygen OS sucks but I'm running hydrogen OS with trebuchet launcher. Fastest phone I've ever used and the camera is great. I never have issues with the fingerprint reader. The only issue is there is no quick charge so it takes 2+hours to fully charge but the battery lasts me all day so that's not an issue.
I did the same cange and the OPT with oxygen OS is way slower than N5 with marshmallow, and it is sometimes buggy, sometimes the camera is super slow... The battery is waaay better and the camera takes much better pictures on the OPT. The screen and the audio is also much better on the OPT. The speed problem is a software problem, with cyanogenmod it is super fast. I am happy, but for not flashers you need to trust oneplus and Oxygen updates if you want this phone.
I also came from the Nexus 5. The N5 was my all-time favorite device. I did my research, gave it some thought, weighed my options and decided to take a chance with the OPT.
I have no regrets, at all now.
Reading of other OPT owner experiences, I was reluctant and at first regretted my decision, but that passed once I got my hands on it.
I have rooted my OPT and have tried all the available roms and kernels for it. While the OPT doesn't yet have as many roms available, it has enough to satisfy my mod addiction for now. I'm confident that developers will put out more and more over the next while.
Currently I'm back to using OxygenOS (2.1.1) and the Beoffla kernel. I also use coolify and disable the "keep awake" permission on pretty much everything. In the kernel settings I use the Impulse governor and the row scheduler.
I don't have a screenshot available, but I generally get around 4.5 hours SOT, unless I was playing games or something intensive. Sure charging takes a couple of hours, but I stay on top of it and it never becomes a problem for me.
Is OxygenOS perfect? Nah, but no rom is "perfect". It is stable enough to use as a daily driver and has enough options to tweak things a bit. People often complain that OxygenOS isn't stable or doesn't offer enough built in mods. I think that's horse****. It's a matter of knowing what you're doing. I use Tasker for nearly anything that isn't built in to the OS. No worries.
The camera on the OPT is pretty decent. Again, you will read complaints about speed and whatnot, but I really don't think it's that slow. I mean, I'm rarely shooting something that requires super high speed reaction. Know what I mean? See the attached picture of my cat. That's not bad in my opinion.
That was just a quick shot, no set up, just point and shoot.
Besides, a good photographer can take a good picture with a crappy camera. There's far more to taking a picture than resolution and speed of software.
The only time my OPT feels hot is when I'm flashing roms. Even then its not abnormally hot or anything. During normal useage even while playing games the temp never gets unusually hot. Of course it's going to feel hot if you plug it in and play Need for Speed for an hour. Any phone would get hot.
The only roms currently which allow you to use the fingerprint sensor are OxygenOS and HydrogenOS. I think it works very well. The only time it doesn't respond is when I don't put my finger on the sensor properly. It works every time i do it right.
I love the notification slider. It's convenient.
I bought an official OPT flip cover. I think it looks and feels great.
The speaker works sufficiently well for a small speaker. Again, I don't have much need for using the external speaker. I prefer headphones, however, on the occasions I've used the speaker, it was loud and clear. That's all I need.
Dual sim... I only need/use one sim. Using one works properly as expected. The sim I used in my N5 was of course a micro sim, but the OPT uses nano sims, so I just trimmed my micro sim to fit the nano slot. Never had any problems.
So, overall, I'm very happy with the OPT.
My single real complaint is that I like to use an OTG cable and flash drive. The generic USB c OTG does not work on the OPT. You have to use the USB c to microsd adapter. I mean it's not the end of the world, its just an inconvenience.
Get the OPT. You won't regret it.
I've owned this great Nexus 6 since shortly after it was introduced. I've loved it since day 1. Lately I've been having problems with the USB connector. It was loose and the charging cable was constantly falling out. So I figured it was time to move on to a new phone. I hastily ordered a new Pixel 2 XL on Swappa without a second thought... it was was afterall the newest "Nexus".
I anticipated its arrival for a week. When it arrived I opened it up and did just a very minimal setup, just so I could see the settings. I was underwhelmed and immediately realized there was nothing about it that was better than the Nexus.
It had great specs, but nothing that was very exciting. It is said to have a spectacular camera, but that isn't a priority. I was thinking about unlocking the bootloader, flashing a rom and rooting. But I would end up with nothing better than the Nexus. So I did nothing but put it back in the box, list it on Swappa, sold it, and shipped it.
I found someone who said they would fix the USB connector, so I took it to his shop, he fixed it and I paid him $25 for his trouble even though he didn't charge me for a minute's work.
Even though the purchase and sale cost me some money, I am so pleased to have a renewed appreciation for my Nexus. There isn't a better phone on the market for me. I'm running Nitrogen 8.1 ROM and couldn't be happier.
The other man's grass is always greener.
I recently "upgraded" from my N6 to the OP5T 128GB version. My USB charge port is loose as well. I also have some screen burn starting from the bottom of the screen fading up. Mine pretty much needs a complete overall to make it like new again. I mainly use it for gaming. So, after some thorough research I chose the OP5T. I couldn't be more pleased with the OP5T. I did a minimal setup at first just like you did. I tested everything out first before customizing it. I then decided that I liked it enough to proceed with customization. Unlocked BL, rooted, running AICP 13.1 w/ EX Kernel. Dam this thing is lightning fast. Good camera. Excellent battery life. Excellent SOT. Still got to keep the 3.5mm jack. Quick charging with that Dash Charger. I do miss the front-facing speakers.
AS I 've said in many threads Phone makers have not made phone as good since
Over Priced and they always missing something
Headphone jacks Dual Speakers 2K Screen no NFC or Wireless changing
why just bought a new Battery Will run my another 2 years.
Bought it used in late 2017 and can't believe how much I missed out - terrific compared to devices I previously owned such as the mate 7 and note 4, direct ompetitors
Onknight said:
AS I 've said in many threads Phone makers have not made phone as good since
Over Priced and they always missing something
Headphone jacks Dual Speakers 2K Screen no NFC or Wireless changing
why just bought a new Battery Will run my another 2 years.
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2014 was the peak in terms of hardware enhancement for me, you had 1080p screens standardizing after 2013, emphasis on battery life from lots of manufacturers, much more efficient chipsets particularly the 801. Phablets started to become a bit more accessible after the note 3 monopoly. Stock android still had some official love with M8/S5 google play editions. I've traded a lot of phones for AOSP Roms but almost all 2013/2014, perfect combination of hardware and software
After that and the Iphone 6 the competition centered around niche devices emulating it. Additions that are so insignificant and obviously made to entice people away for the Iphone's juicy profit margin. The S9 is the saddest example of this. Its high time someone breaks through with a major innovative product like the N-series days and Iphone.
Agreed!
almahix said:
I've owned this great Nexus 6 since shortly after it was introduced. I've loved it since day 1. Lately I've been having problems with the USB connector. It was loose and the charging cable was constantly falling out. So I figured it was time to move on to a new phone. I hastily ordered a new Pixel 2 XL on Swappa without a second thought... it was was afterall the newest "Nexus".
I anticipated its arrival for a week. When it arrived I opened it up and did just a very minimal setup, just so I could see the settings. I was underwhelmed and immediately realized there was nothing about it that was better than the Nexus.
It had great specs, but nothing that was very exciting. It is said to have a spectacular camera, but that isn't a priority. I was thinking about unlocking the bootloader, flashing a rom and rooting. But I would end up with nothing better than the Nexus. So I did nothing but put it back in the box, list it on Swappa, sold it, and shipped it.
I found someone who said they would fix the USB connector, so I took it to his shop, he fixed it and I paid him $25 for his trouble even though he didn't charge me for a minute's work.
Even though the purchase and sale cost me some money, I am so pleased to have a renewed appreciation for my Nexus. There isn't a better phone on the market for me. I'm running Nitrogen 8.1 ROM and couldn't be happier.
The other man's grass is always greener.
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I have Nexus 6 in mint condition I was facing some lag and general slow performance on stock Nougat 7.1. but then I installed Nitrogen OS Oreo 8.1 and boy it's fast!
Sorry, but the pixel 2 is miles better than the N6 performance wise. I only returned mine because it had GPS issues otherwise I never would have looked back. The pixel 1 however was only a minor upgrade.
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Sorry, but the pixel 2 is miles better than the N6 performance wise. I only returned mine because it had GPS issues otherwise I never would have looked back. The pixel 1 however was only a minor upgrade.
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Pixel suck here a few reasons why .
No headphone Jack Display Problems Burn-In Concerns 2-Year Warranty
Quality Control Issues at Factory and I could go on
What peace of crap for $1000 CND DOllars + tax
They made nothing better then Nexus 6 yes you lose some speed but the upgrade is not worth a $1000 CND
I like Nexus Program it showed people how phone could made well and not break the bank
The more bells and whistle the higher the Price and less Quality Control
No headphone jack I am sorry I like my headphone Jack
I'll keep this phone atleast 2 more years.
Nexus 6 was one phone done right. Even today it still looks pretty awesome.
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I found someone who said they would fix the USB connector, so I took it to his shop, he fixed it and I paid him $25 for his trouble even though he didn't charge me for a minute's work.
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You had a USB port replacement? Is that even possible? I know soldering is involved, but did you lose fast charging & usb otg capabilities? I'm just wondering. I have a bad usb port as well.
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93zx7 said:
I recently "upgraded" from my N6 to the OP5T 128GB version. My USB charge port is loose as well. I also have some screen burn starting from the bottom of the screen fading up. Mine pretty much needs a complete overall to make it like new again. I mainly use it for gaming. So, after some thorough research I chose the OP5T. I couldn't be more pleased with the OP5T. I did a minimal setup at first just like you did. I tested everything out first before customizing it. I then decided that I liked it enough to proceed with customization. Unlocked BL, rooted, running AICP 13.1 w/ EX Kernel. Dam this thing is lightning fast. Good camera. Excellent battery life. Excellent SOT. Still got to keep the 3.5mm jack. Quick charging with that Dash Charger. I do miss the front-facing speakers.
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Exactly what I'm thinking for upgrade. How do you compare the speakers though?
Just dug out my shamu and flashed the latest linage OS. Still love the phone. It was years ahead of its time! I have had every single Nexus and pixel since and while the camera is vastly improved as is battery life on the pixels, Little else is all that impressive over the good ole shamu. I will say however that my daily drivers are now OnePlus devices, had the 5, 5T and now the 6. Very impressed and like them a lot. Much better replacement choice for the shamu user.. At least if you don't have Verizon...
Kind of in the same dilemma as you guys, I have a Nexus 6 right now and am considering an upgrade when the Pixel 3's come out, I was considering the 3XL, or possibly the 3 but then gave some thought to going with the 2XL and saving a bunch of cash. The 3XL is looking to be at least $1,000 or around $43/month added to my Fi bill, while the 2XL will likely drop significantly in price, possibly around $400 or about $17/month.
My biggest issues with my N6 right now are battery life and the USB port has been problematic for a couple years but I have dealt with it, but it's getting to the point where's it's extremely difficult to get it to recognize the cable being plugged in. So, I got a wireless charger for the house and the car, I think because the curve of the phone they're both a little finicky but I think I have found the "sweet spot" in where to set the phone so they both work, so that helps a lot with the USB port issue. I could spend about $20 and replace the battery and it likely would be very worth it, might do it even if I upgrade the phone just to have a backup or one to play music off of in the garage.
My daily usage mostly consists of a little web browsing, playing music quite a bit,GPS when needed, couple of games when waiting for Dr appointments and stuff like that but not much otherwise. I don't take many pics, just some here and there and would like the speed to be better but for the amount I use it the camera isn't a big selling point to me. With that said what are your thoughts on just getting a new battery, upgrade to the 2XL or one of the 3's when they come out?
bolus14 said:
Kind of in the same dilemma as you guys, I have a Nexus 6 right now and am considering an upgrade when the Pixel 3's come out, I was considering the 3XL, or possibly the 3 but then gave some thought to going with the 2XL and saving a bunch of cash. The 3XL is looking to be at least $1,000 or around $43/month added to my Fi bill, while the 2XL will likely drop significantly in price, possibly around $400 or about $17/month.
My biggest issues with my N6 right now are battery life and the USB port has been problematic for a couple years but I have dealt with it, but it's getting to the point where's it's extremely difficult to get it to recognize the cable being plugged in. So, I got a wireless charger for the house and the car, I think because the curve of the phone they're both a little finicky but I think I have found the "sweet spot" in where to set the phone so they both work, so that helps a lot with the USB port issue. I could spend about $20 and replace the battery and it likely would be very worth it, might do it even if I upgrade the phone just to have a backup or one to play music off of in the garage.
My daily usage mostly consists of a little web browsing, playing music quite a bit,GPS when needed, couple of games when waiting for Dr appointments and stuff like that but not much otherwise. I don't take many pics, just some here and there and would like the speed to be better but for the amount I use it the camera isn't a big selling point to me. With that said what are your thoughts on just getting a new battery, upgrade to the 2XL or one of the 3's when they come out?
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This is where I am at as well. Minus my USB seems to be working. I feel changing the battery would help me out as well. The more reading I do, the more apprehensive I am. I see reports of no change after battery change, or wireless charging no longer works, or cutting the power button cable. I just don't even want to deal with that. I also read that a user took his phone into a battery place and they broke his phone. Ended up giving him $250 for the device. So I am dealing with my Nexus 6. I am also debating on a Pixel XL 2. The Pixel 3 is way out of my price range.
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This is where I am at as well. Minus my USB seems to be working. I feel changing the battery would help me out as well. The more reading I do, the more apprehensive I am. I see reports of no change after battery change, or wireless charging no longer works, or cutting the power button cable. I just don't even want to deal with that. I also read that a user took his phone into a battery place and they broke his phone. Ended up giving him $250 for the device. So I am dealing with my Nexus 6. I am also debating on a Pixel XL 2. The Pixel 3 is way out of my price range.
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I've swapped batteries recently, and I can tell You that only damage You can do is basically when removing backcover, and thats easily avoidable if You're careful. Under the backplate only thing that might get damaged is the volume/power ribbon and it goes from height of volume/power buttons up till around top of the phone. Oh, and the frame can get damaged too, but thats extreme case, since the mid section of the frame (under where the battery and wireless charging coil sits) can survive bending, just something to keep in mind when separating the backcover (If it sticks hard to the cover, just warm it up some more and separate with plastic card/carefully with something made from metal). After the backcover is gone You're basically set .
Looks like a lot of N6 users have this problem with the USB connector. Mine charges only under a certain angle but i'm not buying a new phone
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Hoantjes said:
Looks like a lot of N6 users have this problem with the USB connector. Mine charges only under a certain angle but i'm not buying a new phone
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I had this issue and thought it was toast. Got a toothpick and whittled it down so it fit around inside the entire port. Cleaned a whole lot of crap out of it and now it charges like it was brand new.
Phone is still functional with lineageOS for normal activities. youtube and browsing. I still prefer the 16:9 even if it makes the phone wide. The games i play on the n6 vs the pixel xl 2 are sluggish in comparison. I'm about to use it and slap a sprint BYOD sim into it.
I think those complaining about the price of the Pixels are forgetting that the Nexus 6 was very expensive when it came out. Having bought a Nexus 4 previously I was interested in a Nexus 6 but I could not justify the expense to myself. Eventually after the release of the 6P a local store had some remaining 6s and reduced the price to where I could justify buying one. But they were as expensive as flagships of the time.
The same has happened with the Pixel, a couple of months ago the last few new ones on sale locally were reduced and I bought a Pixel XL. I wanted something new, with developer support and with a headphone socket.
But in some ways the Pixel XL is less than a Nexus 6, notably there is no notification LED and the screen is smaller and especially narrower. I am a Linux server admin and one of the things I occasionally do is SSH to a server, and the Pixel XL screen isn't as good for that. Sure it's faster but I don't really need a faster CPU.
The whole trend to make narrower screens and remove useful features like notification LEDs and headphone sockets is making newer smartphones worse. So I hope to keep using the Nexus 6 for a while yet. I bought a wireless charging pad so that I would not wear out the USB socket as quickly. I use double tap to wake in order to not wear out the power/wake button (my Nexus 4 suffers from a power button which now needs a good push to work).
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This is where I am at as well. Minus my USB seems to be working. I feel changing the battery would help me out as well. The more reading I do, the more apprehensive I am. I see reports of no change after battery change, or wireless charging no longer works, or cutting the power button cable. I just don't even want to deal with that. I also read that a user took his phone into a battery place and they broke his phone. Ended up giving him $250 for the device. So I am dealing with my Nexus 6. I am also debating on a Pixel XL 2. The Pixel 3 is way out of my price range.
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Yeah I just purchased a nexus 6 this year, and it had a bad battery. So being I have a little experience in the field of phones, I ordered a battery and I carefully opened it up. - I got it all apart and changed the battery out, when I had finished all worked as intended. It isn't too difficult to do. :good:
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I've owned this great Nexus 6 since shortly after it was introduced. I've loved it since day 1. Lately I've been having problems with the USB connector. It was loose and the charging cable was constantly falling out. So I figured it was time to move on to a new phone. I hastily ordered a new Pixel 2 XL on Swappa without a second thought... it was was afterall the newest "Nexus".
I anticipated its arrival for a week. When it arrived I opened it up and did just a very minimal setup, just so I could see the settings. I was underwhelmed and immediately realized there was nothing about it that was better than the Nexus.
It had great specs, but nothing that was very exciting. It is said to have a spectacular camera, but that isn't a priority. I was thinking about unlocking the bootloader, flashing a rom and rooting. But I would end up with nothing better than the Nexus. So I did nothing but put it back in the box, list it on Swappa, sold it, and shipped it.
I found someone who said they would fix the USB connector, so I took it to his shop, he fixed it and I paid him $25 for his trouble even though he didn't charge me for a minute's work.
Even though the purchase and sale cost me some money, I am so pleased to have a renewed appreciation for my Nexus. There isn't a better phone on the market for me. I'm running Nitrogen 8.1 ROM and couldn't be happier.
The other man's grass is always greener.
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I nearly agree. The Nexus 6 was a great phone. Well ahead of its time in many/most respects. In some ways, I did find the pixel2xl a bit of a downgrade, in particular, while both are called a "6 inch", the Nexus 6 is most definitely bigger. Especially its width, which is the most important dimension since width dictates the utility of the on screen keyboard. I found the on screen keyboard on the N6 to be "adequate", and on the P2XL, I find it to be "very challenging". Also the lack of wireless charging.
You mention the camera. To be honest, I can't much tell the difference between the cameras, except that the p2xl is ***FASTER*** and more stable (mostly affects video). The image quality is roughly the same. N6 was way ahead of its time in that respect as well, even throwing in OIS, which wasn't repeated until... P2XL. The P1's EIS makes your brain hurt -- motions are very unnatural on it. The EIS+OIS combination on the P2 really is incredible though.
But the big issue with the N6? No more support from Google, and I just don't have time to keep it up myself, nor the desire to wade through buggy "kitchen sink" system images hacked up by high school kids who want to bloat it out with completely useless and half baked "features". The phone has to actually work reliably, and so from that point of view, it was time to move on. My service provider has also upgraded from HSPA to LTE, but the N6 only supports LTE on a band that they're barely using for LTE.
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I think those complaining about the price of the Pixels are forgetting that the Nexus 6 was very expensive when it came out.
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That. $700 for the N6 at launch. That's $750 with 4 years of inflation factored in.
But in some ways the Pixel XL is less than a Nexus 6, notably there is no notification LED
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Eh.... you got that backwards. Nexus 6 is the one that didn't ship with a working notification light. Some hacks have partially enabled it, but to my knowledge, nobody ever got the blinking hardware working for it (since the blink function is simply not implemented in the firmware). The pixel's *ALL* have a working notification light, you just have to turn them on, which (unlike N6) you can do from the settings menu.
Settings --> Notifications --> Advanced --> Notifications --> Blink light. At least that is where it is on Android 9.
The whole trend to make narrower screens
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Agreed. Wider screen is more useful. Give me a 6" 16x10 and I'll be much happier than the bullpoop 6" on the P2XL.
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Addressed above. Still there.
and headphone sockets
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How is that a useful feature? The last thing I ever would want to do, is fumble around with tangled and probably broken wires when I'm trying to use my phone. Good riddance to the dirt sucking water injection port!
I bought a wireless charging pad.
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Miss that.
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Eh.... you got that backwards. Nexus 6 is the one that didn't ship with a working notification light. Some hacks have partially enabled it, but to my knowledge, nobody ever got the blinking hardware working for it (since the blink function is simply not implemented in the firmware). The pixel's *ALL* have a working notification light, you just have to turn them on, which (unlike N6) you can do from the settings menu.
Settings --> Notifications --> Advanced --> Notifications --> Blink light. At least that is where it is on Android 9.
How is that a useful feature? The last thing I ever would want to do, is fumble around with tangled and probably broken wires when I'm trying to use my phone. Good riddance to the dirt sucking water injection port!
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Yes the N6 LED wasn't enabled in stock firmware, but it is there and works with the LineageOS ROM I have installed.
Thank you for helping with the setting on the Pixel XL. I am amazed that it wasn't set to on when new out of the box. A person would never know it was there.
I think I prefer the steady light over the blink as I know I will see it when I glance at the phone. Yes I know it would use more power.
Both my cars, one 10+ years old and the other 20+ years old don't have bluetooth inputs but do have 3.5mm inputs, so the audio out on the smartphone is useful for music while driving. I use that more often than using headphones. It is more expensive to replace the car stereo or the whole car than finding a smartphone with a 3.5mm socket. Also I sometimes plug in one of the sets of computer speakers I have lying around. I don't need to go out and spend more money on the silly bluetooth speakers which are mostly not even in stereo.
So i had my lg v20 since launch and I kept thinking should I upgrade or still keep it. I was hoping you guys could shed some light and give me advice, as I love my phone but feel like i want something different such as huawei p20 Pro or Google pixel 2.
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So i had my lg v20 since launch and I kept thinking should I upgrade or still keep it. I was hoping you guys could shed some light and give me advice, as I love my phone but feel like i want something different such as huawei p20 Pro or Google pixel 2.
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3 of my last 4 phone purchase were V20s
(We have 7 lines)
My wife got an S9 and I don't see any need to get one or spend three times the price on anything that's been released this year.
The pricing has gotten ridicules and really the one plus 6 is the only other phone that has sparked any interest here. And even it is just not worth double the price of a V20 to me.
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matas17 said:
So i had my lg v20 since launch and I kept thinking should I upgrade or still keep it. I was hoping you guys could shed some light and give me advice, as I love my phone but feel like i want something different such as huawei p20 Pro or Google pixel 2.
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V20 stock is running low, mostly refurbs and used ones out there. If you got the itch, scratch it if you want, but based on the horrible non support of the V20 by LG I'd move on from LG altogether
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My V20 does everything I want/need it to do. Including the removable battery that I've upgraded to the 10k mAh from ZeroLemon. [emoji106][emoji16][emoji367]
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I am keeping mine until I can get the Asus ROG Phone.
Stay with it until the phone dies. No way to upgrade. Not all all! This phone is amazing. Good DAC, good camera, good microphones, 3,5mm in, swappable battery, wide angle camera. I'll stay with mine hopefully for years! But I have to admit that I don't give a **** about updates. Had my galaxy note 4, which unfortunately died, for 2,5 years running with kitkat.
I've got the 918. With the LAF root method, FM radio, removable battery, IR Blaster, wired headphone option... I'm not upgrading anytime soon.
Best phone I've had since the HTC Evo Supersonic.
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I've got the 918. With the LAF root method, FM radio, removable battery, IR Blaster, wired headphone option... I'm not upgrading anytime soon.
Best phone I've had since the HTC Evo Supersonic.
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What about battery backup.... I m planning to buy it... Please give some advise
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What about battery backup.... I m planning to buy it... Please give some advise
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Not sure what you mean about battery backup.
I am still using stock battery but have a zero lemon extended battery for when it starts to go.
The zero lemon bicycle and windshield mounts are great if you use a protective case with the stock battery btw.
I'm now on my second V20, which just had the vibrato motor die on it, but otherwise works perfectly. My ONLY bones to pick: it can't be rooted because of the last OTA update to Oreo, and if you happen to test a lot of apps as I do, it's a power-hungry beast. If I were to upgrade at this point, I would probably go back to a Note 9, since my V20 replaced my rooted Note 4.
The thing I love most about this phone, however - and its a "biggie", for me - is the fact that it's the last flagship phone on the market with a removable battery. I don't care that it's already two gens behind, simply because it quite capably does everything I need it to do, including music player, photography and video recording, casting, and NFC functions, so until someone comes out with an embedded battery, feature-rich phone that REALLY wows me, I see no reason to upgrade. Hope this helps.
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The removable battery is one of the major reasons why I'll use the V20 indefinitely. Too many people have had to buy a new phone after 2 years because the battery died... or pay a lot for a battery replacement.
Same here on the notion of the removable battery. Maybe it's what you grew up with that determines your preference, but I like a phone that I can work on even if I don't need to. I really love the IR blaster. In fact, that's the reason I went back to it. I fancy controlling the TV in whatever restaurant I go! My only issue is the charging port is going bad and I'd like to de-bloat all Sprint's crap. Currently seeking a "How To" if there is one to be found.
I went from a note 4 to this and I'm very happy.
For me... it was the removable battery, screen ratio and I love the second screen.
Love the fact I can see the time while watching Netflix. Or turn on the flashlight with out messing with the phone.
Screen ratio... Movies/tv shows work without wasted space.
Sure, it's not lightening fast like my wife's s8... But the milliseconds I wait don't add up to much. Except the the big bucks I saved. Camera is pretty good, so much to love about this phone.
Also love the flat screen, so much less prone to breaking. Most of the bloatware can be disabled, even without root. Working hot-spot on sprint (with hack) is priceless too.
Apart from battery being changeable, I like that it is easy to repair. I shifted the thermal paste, and that was an easy task. I don't know any other phone where that would be the case. On top of that, I use the audio on high quality headphones. What a shame that LG stops updating, and then also make it difficult for our developers, too.
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Apart from battery being changeable, I like that it is easy to repair. I shifted the thermal paste, and that was an easy task. I don't know any other phone where that would be the case. On top of that, I use the audio on high quality headphones. What a shame that LG stops updating, and then also make it difficult for our developers, too.
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Tell me more of this thermal paste shift. Why would you do it, where, how... all that good stuff. Or a link
the link is here
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/how-to/changed-thermal-paste-h910-t3782765
It did not make a huge difference for me since I am not using my phone for gaming, but the existing paste in my phone were definitely upon for being removed
Thanks for the link. I followed it and several other articles that it links to. It's not really definitive on if it's a good idea or not. Like you, I don't use it for gaming so I think I'll pass on it. At least until I decide to replace the screen. Saw a post about rooting and altering the profile so it can't run that hot... also not doing that.
Despite the short-coming of the V20 such as battery life and say...CPU Throttling for battery/temps (just delete Thermal-engine-8996.conf), and some weird episodes of LCD burn-in (solvable with KCAL kernels like mk2000), this phone still works well. The only hard-limit that can't be solved, through tweaking, is the fact the SD820 only has 4 CPU threads to execute tasks on. Other than that, the day-to-day of the V20 competes with other phones well-enough.
I agree with everybody else in here. In terms of features, the following phone finder search gives you a good idea about what the current alternatives are:
https://www.gsmarena.com/search.php3?nRamMin=4000&chkCameraUltrawide=selected&chk35mm=selected&chkNFC=selected&chkInfrared=selected&chkFMradio=selected&idCardslot=1&idBatRemovable=1
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...and I'd like to de-bloat all Sprint's crap. Currently seeking a "How To" if there is one to be found.
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I haven't seen any Sprint-specific bloat discussions here, probably since most of the old Sprint-based ROMs are already de-bloated. If you are on an unrootable LS997, then here is a brief discussion on the V20 Subreddit about using adb or a package disabler app to remove bloatware.
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I haven't seen any Sprint-specific bloat discussions here, probably since most of the old Sprint-based ROMs are already de-bloated. If you are on an unrootable LS997, then here is a brief discussion on the V20 Subreddit about using adb or a package disabler app to remove bloatware.
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Thanks for this. I'll have to try it out soon.
OK considering getting a op6t later this week.
Overall is it good?
Currently I've a HTC u11 weird choice I know but the screen is mint.
With the lower res on the oneplus would you buy again after owning one?
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OK considering getting a op6t later this week.
Overall is it good?
Currently I've a HTC u11 weird choice I know but the screen is mint.
With the lower res on the oneplus would you buy again after owning one?
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Best phone I've owned.
I like the fact that it is dual SIM and works on Verizon.
OnePlus 7 is right around the corner. I'd wait for that if I were you.
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OK considering getting a op6t later this week.
Overall is it good?
Currently I've a HTC u11 weird choice I know but the screen is mint.
With the lower res on the oneplus would you buy again after owning one?
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I just got this phone and it's the best phones I've had. I've only had all Galaxies but even with Ron's on my galaxy this phone is soooooo buttery smooth and very fast. It's basically everything I'd try to get my Samsung to be. This is a great choice but the OnePlus 7 is coming out soon so it's up to you.
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I've seen the standard op7 specs its not much different to be fair. Unless your going pro. Thanks for the responses. I'll get my op6t
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OK considering getting a op6t later this week.
Overall is it good?
Currently I've a HTC u11 weird choice I know but the screen is mint.
With the lower res on the oneplus would you buy again after owning one?
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Okay, so, after going through many brands and various experiences these are my 2 cents on the 6T: :fingers-crossed:
Camera is very good, but there are better options if you're purely focusing on photography
The performance is absolutely magnificent. Dominates the charts.
The UI experience is one of the best. OxygenOS not only instigates a fully seamless and stock experience, it offers a wide range of personalization options and really helps the user experience.
It is a stable OS, updated consistently and unlikely to experience unprecedented hard resets and bootloops.
Connectivity is brilliant, apart from the Bluetooth. I have been having some trouble with the automatic connection to eg wireless headsets and the instance of remaining connected or switching between audio sources, also had some issues with connecting to other devices.
Screen is great, yet I feel they could've done better with the resolution, than just 1080p.
Other features like the notch and the fingerprint sensor are huge pluses and good conversation starters, as they not only make the device an actual beauty but are recent innovations.
The build quality is great. Sturdy, durable, slick.
Lack of a headphone jack is a bit asinine, but does not in anyway overweight the advantages. Would still like to see a jack on the upcoming 7.
Great price. Value for money.
The lack of a stereo speaker and poor placement not only makes it easier for one to cover it up accidentally but also makes for an okay audio experience, which is unsatisfactory by my standards.
I love my 6T, but would sell it in a minute and buy a 7, if the 7 brings back a notification LED.
I got the OP6T McLaren edition in January and it has been a fun device. I agree with everything others said above.
For lack of notification LED light, there are a few apps you can use that work very well. And for the lack of stereo speakers, there is a magisk module that turns the earpiece into a second speaker which works well. :good:
I bought one because it seemed like the best value locally. My wife bought at the same time one of those $1400 apple doo hicky things after playing with my phone for 37 minutes she made me return her fancy designed in California apple and buy her a one plus 6t.
Well I got it. Brilliant phone
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I love my 6T, but would sell it in a minute and buy a 7, if the 7 brings back a notification LED.
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Lol anything that has been removed during the span of 6 and 6T will not ever return. Led is going away in almost every smartphone coming out this year even Samsung removed it in the s10 and it's all to make more screen and OnePlus will follow that trend just like with the notch...... And they're definitely not bringing back headphone jack.... Both 7 and 7 pro are going to be using an optical in display demerit similar to the one used in the 6T... Maybe the pro will have something better since it's the pro though (ultrasonic?) Maybe but I don't think so.....
This is the first device in a long time I'm not overly bothered about rooting. Very odd
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This is the first device in a long time I'm not overly bothered about rooting. Very odd
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Exactly. Everyone says to root it an get more, but in reality, unless you use a lot of magsik moduels then there is no reason to. Only thing g I did was turn my TMobile variant into an international one.
I only use root to block ads but there are solutions for that these days. Root is also use full to get rid of gapps.
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Exactly. Everyone says to root it an get more, but in reality, unless you use a lot of magsik moduels then there is no reason to. Only thing g I did was turn my TMobile variant into an international one.
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I switched mine to international. Rooted with magisk to block ads, enable dual speaker, also used swift installer to completely black out everything so I conserve battery. Viper 4 android. Installed TWRP as well. I agree though I was very impressed with everything stock. I've always had Samsung phones and this was everything I'd try to get my Samsung to be.
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Weirdly I did root but literally for the kernel. I'll not be changing the ROM..probably ever on this. Oxygen is sweet
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This is the first device in a long time I'm not overly bothered about rooting. Very odd
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Same here