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I am interested in high quality bluetooth audio and aptX /aptX HD are preferred codec protocols for that. Now that Qualcomm acquired CSR, they own the aptX technology. On their web page there is an aptX compatibility link, where, for Motorola Phones we can see listed Moto G and Moto X, but the pictures are from the first generation phones.
For "aptX HD" I found only the latest flagship LG phones and Luna.
Is there a way to include support for aptX in our phones?
SoNic67 said:
I am interested in high quality bluetooth audio and aptX /aptX HD are preferred codec protocols for that. Now that Qualcomm acquired CSR, they own the aptX technology. On their web page there is an aptX compatibility link, where, for Motorola Phones we can see listed Moto G and Moto X, but the pictures are from the first generation phones.
For "aptX HD" I found only the latest flagship LG phones and Luna.
Is there a way to include support for aptX in our phones?
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I don't believe there is. Sometimes I'm amazed at some of the simple and cheap things they left off these phones. At the manufacturer's level we're talking pennies on some things.
I have asked Qualcomm about the Moto G4 Plus and Moto X Pure (2015) and they where nice to answer this:
"Hi, yes Moto phones should support aptX, although we haven’t done any testing on these devices."
Since Qualcomm bought CSR in 2014, I don't see any development in that direction.
LE: New email from Qualcomm support:
"We do internal IOP testing on customer products but they have not provided us with Moto devices sorry."
Makes sense, only the real Moto cared to send their devices for testing. The following owners of the Moto brand (Google and Lenovo) are not interested in quality testing as much.
Capturing the bluetooth communication between phone and some aptX capable headphones and, after that, Wireshark that file, resulted in the information that Moto G4 is aptX capable!
Kudos to AlphaDog: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Moto-G4-Moto-G4-Plus-Moto-G4/Bluetooth-aptX-support/m-p/3488442#M10779
If this is aptX compatible, it should be aptX HD compatible as well.
Try flashing this mod
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/software/mod-aptx-hd-bluetooth-hi-res-audio-t3501991
That mod seems to have worked on my G4 Plus. Now I just need a Bluetooth sink device (speakers headphones) capable of aptX HD, to verify.
SoNic67 said:
That mod seems to have worked on my G4 Plus. Now I just need a Bluetooth sink device (speakers headphones) capable of aptX HD, to verify.
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Did you have a chance to verify if aptX is working after applying the fix?
AptX it works. Checked it with a few soundbars at BestBuy. Now, the AptX HD is a different story since there is only one type of LG headphones that supports it, nothing else on market. So I couldn't find a pair to test it.
Hi, are there any results?
Do we have any reliable sources if new Galaxy S smartphone support AptX HD Bluetooth codec.
Thanks.
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HD, not sure. Regular apt x, yes. Samsung has been using apt x since the s3 if I remember correctly.
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all we know is that SD835/Bluetooth 5 officially supports it so there's a chance.
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mannequin said:
all we know is that SD835/Bluetooth 5 officially supports it so there's a chance.
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What about exynos variant does also support it or not.
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paatha13 said:
Do we have any reliable sources if new Galaxy S smartphone support AptX HD Bluetooth codec.
Thanks.
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Hey paatha13,
I have been wondering the same thing. I e-mailed [email protected] and didn't get any response, however, I noticed today that they have updated their website to list the Galaxy S8 and S8+. Unfortunately, while they are listed under aptX devices, they are not listed under aptX-HD devices.
Source: aptx.com
Click aptX Solutions-->aptX, then scroll down and select "See all products": the Galaxy S8 and S8+ are both listed.
Click aptX Solutions-->aptX HD, then scroll down and select "See all products": no Galaxy phone is listed.
This is disappointing since the chipset used by the S8 supports aptX HD. I know Samsung uses their own high-quality proprietary codec (they call it Hi-Fi) so that may be their justification for not implementing the new codec, however, that does not help in the likely scenario where the sink device does not support Samsung's codec but does support aptX HD.
Hope that helps,
Stevie Wonder
Can you output music to one device using the APT X codec while also sending music to an older A2DP device without issues? I am worried that the higher quality APTX device will dumb down to match A2DP with dual streaming. Anyone know if that is the case or not?
My car's bluetooth does not support APT X unfortunately and the audio quality isn't very good. Was hoping to buy a standalone APT X bluetooth receiver and stick it in my car somewhere connecting to my car with the AUX cable, and still retain vehicle controls for next/previous track. Figured I would dual stream to my car (with the volume off/low) and to my APTx receiver through aux to accomplish this. Also can both devices automatically pair and go into dual audio mode?
Stevie Wonder said:
Hey paatha13,
I have been wondering the same thing. I e-mailed [email protected] and didn't get any response, however, I noticed today that they have updated their website to list the Galaxy S8 and S8+. Unfortunately, while they are listed under aptX devices, they are not listed under aptX-HD devices.
Source: aptx.com
Click aptX Solutions-->aptX, then scroll down and select "See all products": the Galaxy S8 and S8+ are both listed.
Click aptX Solutions-->aptX HD, then scroll down and select "See all products": no Galaxy phone is listed.
This is disappointing since the chipset used by the S8 supports aptX HD. I know Samsung uses their own high-quality proprietary codec (they call it Hi-Fi) so that may be their justification for not implementing the new codec, however, that does not help in the likely scenario where the sink device does not support Samsung's codec but does support aptX HD.
Hope that helps,
Stevie Wonder
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I'm wondering if this will change with Android 9 release since I believe it is the only android os that supports the newer codec
Hi, there is a way to enable aptx or aptx HD on this device? And then how check if it really works? Thanks.
Djoe9778 said:
Hi, there is a way to enable aptx or aptx HD on this device? And then how check if it really works? Thanks.
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aptx is a proprietery algorithm that the manufacturer has to pay to enable. It cant be enabled by end users. It would be illegal even if someone figured out how to do it.
adfds said:
aptx is a proprietery algorithm that the manufacturer has to pay to enable. It cant be enabled by end users. It would be illegal even if someone figured out how to do it.
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Sorry I didn't know that. Thanks you for the answer.
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Sorry I didn't know that. Thanks you for the answer.
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I was wrong. Oreo should support aptX according to this article.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/03/21/feature-spotlight-android-o-looks-like-it-will-add-support-for-aptx-bluetooth-streaming/
But I dont know if the Mi A1 Oreo supports this.
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I was wrong. Oreo should support aptX according to this article.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/0...ill-add-support-for-aptx-bluetooth-streaming/
But I dont know if the Mi A1 Oreo supports this.
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Perfect, i'll test with Oreo if is supported.
Djoe9778 said:
Perfect, i'll test with Oreo if is supported.
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Enable developer options and look for bluetooth related settings. There are few codec supported but not sure if they work.
sandrocks said:
Enable developer options and look for bluetooth related settings. There are few codec supported but not sure if they work.
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In this week I'll buy a pair of aptx headphones, thanks for the reply, I'll do the tests and let you know if it works.
Waiting for the results
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Its there in Dev settings
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Djoe9778 said:
In this week I'll buy a pair of aptx headphones, thanks for the reply, I'll do the tests and let you know if it works.
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Try to get a ldac headphone. ldac is even better than aptX but only Sony headphones support ldac
I dont think theres any chance the xiaomi supports ldac
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adfds said:
Try to get a ldac headphone. ldac is even better than aptX but only Sony headphones support ldac
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Really interesting information, unfortunately I have a limited budget. But it's great news to know that our smartphone supports Ldac codec. Thanks you
Djoe9778 said:
Really interesting information, unfortunately I have a limited budget. But it's great news to know that our smartphone supports Ldac codec. Thanks you
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No it does not support ldac. The list is part of Oreo, showing oreo's available options
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amitliss84 said:
No it does not support ldac. The list is part of Oreo, showing oreo's available options
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So the list of codecs in the developer options does not mean the hardware compatibility of the codec?
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So the list of codecs in the developer options does not mean the hardware compatibility of the codec?
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Well the hardware support it, but these are licensed codecs and if Xiaomi didnt pay Sony to use Ldac than Ldac will not be available
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amitliss84 said:
Well the hardware support it, but these are licensed codecs and if Xiaomi didnt pay Sony to use Ldac than Ldac will not be available
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No all oreo devices support ldac. Sony and Google worked together to provide ldac support. ldac, aptx dont need hardware support on the phone side because the phones processor can do the coding and decoding. All of these can be done through software and sony has enabled ldac on all phones running oreo
It is the headphones that need hardware support for aptx and ldac.
ldac is sony's proprietary algorithm and since all oreo phones support ldac now, if anyone wants to use ldac headphones, they have to buy sony headphones.
Other manufacturers dont support ldac.
Consequently none of Sony's headphones support aptx since qualcomm owns aptx.
It is important to note all these ldac and aptx are different ways of transcoding music. The actual bluetooth hardware does not change. Only a software or hardware transcoder is added.
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No all oreo devices support ldac. Sony and Google worked together to provide ldac support. ldac, aptx dont need hardware support on the phone side because the phones processor can do the coding and decoding. All of these can be done through software and sony has enabled ldac on all phones running oreo
It is the headphones that need hardware support for aptx and ldac.
ldac is sony's proprietary algorithm and since all oreo phones support ldac now, if anyone wants to use ldac headphones, they have to buy sony headphones.
Other manufacturers dont support ldac.
Consequently none of Sony's headphones support aptx since qualcomm owns aptx.
It is important to note all these ldac and aptx are different ways of transcoding music. The actual bluetooth hardware does not change. Only a software or hardware transcoder is added.
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Oh wow ok
So...do all Oreo phones also support aptx??
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amitliss84 said:
Oh wow ok
So...do all Oreo phones also support aptx??
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I dont know about aptX.
All Oreo phones could support it if Qualcomm allowed free use of aptX just like Sony does with LDAC on any device running Oreo.
It could be enabled with a simple software update.
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I dont know about aptX.
All Oreo phones could support it if Qualcomm allowed free use of aptX just like Sony does with LDAC on any device running Oreo.
It could be enabled with a simple software update.
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Thats my deal-breaker regarding this phone
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amitliss84 said:
Waiting for the results
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Ok i tested with aptx headphones and mi A1 does not support this codec, only AAC. What a pity.
In fact I found out that the Snapdragon 625 does not support it, so it's a hardware limit before the software
Aptx for for Fire Tv devices? "[Port][Magisk] AptX & AptX-HD for All Oreo 8.0+"
So i randomly stumbled on this forum thread, that supposedly enables aptx for android devices.
I couldnt test it myself as i own only a fire stick 4k (mantis) and as the title says, its for oreo8.0+ and theres no 8.0+ rom available for the 4k right now.
But im aware that a few other fire devices does have lineage roms and that sort of stuff so perhaps someone might be able to try it and maybe get lucky with working aptx on their fire device.
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AFAIK aptX and aptX-HD can only be enable if regular apt is on board. And apt isn't available from fire tv stick
fredsky2 said:
So i randomly stumbled on this forum thread, that supposedly enables aptx for android devices.
I couldnt test it myself as i own only a fire stick 4k (mantis) and as the title says, its for oreo8.0+ and theres no 8.0+ rom available for the 4k right now.
But im aware that a few other fire devices does have lineage roms and that sort of stuff so perhaps someone might be able to try it and maybe get lucky with working aptx on their fire device.
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aptX is designed by Qualcomm. That's not available with this device because has no onboard Qualcomm aptX chips, Fire TV Stick 4K is only using MediaTek chips.
AmznUser444 Dev said:
aptX is designed by Qualcomm. That's not available with this device because has no onboard Qualcomm aptX chips, Fire TV Stick 4K is only using MediaTek chips.
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yeah after a bit more research i thought the magisk module would work only on non-licensed devices but that had qualcomm socs
but on this thread it seems that they were able to get it working (and on a mediatek soc) so idk
Does ONEPLUS 8 pro Support LDAC?
My Sony WH-1000XM3 connect and show that they use LDAC codec.
Yes. LDAC supported.
I read some news at 8 Pro release, and it was listed in spec's...