The LG G6 phone I purchased in may 2017 fell face first and damaged the front glass, so I sent the phone for repair and got it back somewhere in October. Three weeks later the phone suddenly switched off when it had 15% charge left and refused to charge again. So I sent the phone back for repair and just got the repair quotation.
According to the company that will be repairing the phone, the repair won't be covered by the phone warranty, as it has internal liquid damage and that I will have to pay $400.
Now I don't agree with this for a few reasons,
1. The phone never fell into the water, let alone do I remember having any water on it.
2. Even if the phone had any water on it, how could an IP68 certified phone let water go inside the internals? If it wasn't properly sealed, how could the consumer be penalized for it?
3. After the first time repair, I had used the phone close to three weeks, how could there be corrosion in that time?
Now I spoke to both the company that will be repairing and LG, the customer service agents are both useless, as they have no answers for me. So I am going to try writing some emails.
Has anybody else had this issue? And does anybody feel I am being unrealistic here?
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Water resistant NOT water proof.
Barely any manufacturers cover liquid damage.
Been fixing phones for 15 years now and don't think I no any company that covers water damage.
Corrosion will happen quickly. With a drop of liquid and a current flowing through it.
Phones that are liquid resistant just have a thick sticky seal that the screen and back glass stick to really well stopping liquid getting in.
Plus all ports and holes have rubber seals inside.
Just take it apart and clean all parts with alcohol spirit cleaner. Let it dry and test phone.
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so yesterday i spilled coke on the speaker went to sleep(WAS ULTRA DRUNK) woke up speaker sounds like a dying bird
ive put it in rice now is there anyway it will get back to normal ? cuz coke is not water its sugary and ppl say here on forums that it survived water just need to dry out
Probably all stuck up with the sugar in the coke.
I'd put the phone under some running warm water (not hot!) to try and dissipate some of that sugar from the speaker then leave it to dry off some - of course ensure you have the back cover and USB cover fitted properly!
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Paul
What if it was a Diet Coke.
Trying to rinse a phone under running water is risky and could possibly ruin your entire phone. Your phone is water resistant to occasional water exposure, not water proof. Certainly not Coke proof.
You can try "cleaning" the speaker by using a small syringe or kid's water pistol to gently splash a small amount of water on the speaker, then let it dry out thoroughly before turning your phone on. Blot any excess water and put the phone in a sealed plastic bag with silica gel packets to speed drying. No guarantees, but it may improve or even resolve the problem.
If you are willing to open the case or it's outside of warranty anyway, remove the speaker and clean it while it's separated from the phone. Or even better just replace it. The part is cheap on the internet if you can replace it yourself. If you're not mechanically inclined, then bite the bullet and have it professionally repaired. Probably $75 - $100, most of which is labour. Probably no more than you spent at the club or bar that led up to this anyway.
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well i actually bought it only a week ago so its under warranty but i dont think they will do anything except charge me for a new speaker after i say a drop of coke hit it and killed it
so spraying the speaker it self with some water may clean out that sugar stuff?
the water doesent go further in the phone through the speaker enclosure?
orbit3r said:
well i actually bought it only a week ago so its under warranty but i dont think they will do anything except charge me for a new speaker after i say a drop of coke hit it and killed it
so spraying the speaker it self with some water may clean out that sugar stuff?
the water doesent go further in the phone through the speaker enclosure?
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Your phone will be water resistant to mild water exposure most of the time. But that isn't guaranteed and if water somehow gets into your phone it won't be covered under warranty. Unpressurized water shouldn't go through the speaker but if your phone is damaged or the case is loose, it could seep around the speaker. So be gentle with water. It's questionable whether water will remove the Coke residue and restore the speaker but worth a try if you are cautious.
If it doesn't work or you simply don't wish to try, then make a warranty claim. Samsung may fix it for free if you are lucky. Or they may charge you for the repair if they figure that bathing in Coke is negligent. But your warranty should remain intact even if you end up with a $75 repair because they decide that Coke repairs aren't covered.
Good luck
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Your phone is water resistant to occasional water exposure, not water proof.
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Samsung GALAXY S5 is IP67 Certified:
6: Dust tight No ingress of dust; complete protection against contact (dust tight)
7: Immersion up to 1 m Ingress of water in harmful quantity shall not be possible when the enclosure is immersed in water under defined conditions of pressure and time (up to 1 m of submersion).
You can use it in a pool or on the beach without problems.
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You can use it in a pool or on the beach without problems.
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This is very bad advice. The IEC Standard 60529 IP67 rating is for fresh water, not salt water that you may find at the beach. Nor does it rate any protection against chlorine found in most pools which is a known corrosive to most rubber seals. The rating also limited in depth and exposure time e.g. only to 1 meter, which is less than most pools and seashores.
Aside from all of those caveats, the rating simiply does not mean that your phone is waterproof in any way. It means that your phone, in perfect shape, is resistant to shallow immersion in fresh water for a limited time. Routinely subjecting a $600 phone to water is foolish. Over time most people drop phones, parts may wear or a owner may not completely seal the battery door which can quickly lead to catastrophic water damage.
Being water resistant is a big plus and will save a lot of us. But it is not an iron clad guarantee of anything anyone foolish enough to routinely tempt fate is likely to find that out the hard way. In particular there is no assurance that your phone will survive repeated exposure to salt water or chlorine in pools. Or if it falls down to the bottom of a pool that is more than a meter deep. And yes, there is a big difference between 1 meter and two, three or four meters.
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Your phone will be water resistant to mild water exposure most of the time. But that isn't guaranteed and if water somehow gets into your phone it won't be covered under warranty. Unpressurized water shouldn't go through the speaker but if your phone is damaged or the case is loose, it could seep around the speaker. So be gentle with water. It's questionable whether water will remove the Coke residue and restore the speaker but worth a try if you are cautious.
If it doesn't work or you simply don't wish to try, then make a warranty claim. Samsung may fix it for free if you are lucky. Or they may charge you for the repair if they figure that bathing in Coke is negligent. But your warranty should remain intact even if you end up with a $75 repair because they decide that Coke repairs aren't covered.
Good luck
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i gave it to a samsung store and they didnt even ask questions
got a call today to go pick it up tomorow i guess i was lucky
asked the guy if the phones fine and he said that if i didnt get call before from the tech dep. then its all good as new
i hope not to see a 100$ bill tomorow
Hello,
My girlfriend has owned a Moto X Style for 3 months, which she was unfortunate to drop into the ground outside. It had the original bumper that came with the phone and a tempered glass screen protector on, so there were no visible damage to the phone. As it was slight rainy, the phone got a little wet and when she picked it up, there was already a little water behind the screen, and she turned it off and dried it off and let it sit in rice for about 19 hours to get the moist out. After 19 hours she tried to use it and it looked fine as all the water was gone, but about 1-1,5cm of the screen now does not register touch.
The phone was only on the ground about 20 seconds, so is it covered by the warranty?
The phone does have that nano-coating that is supposed to protect it from water spray.. I believe dropping your phone into the ground once is considered normal wear and tear, or am I wrong?
Hard telling what will happen, I have had zero luck with Moto warranty work. My wife was told 5 weeks for her phone to be replaced on a warranty claim and my moto 360 was denied warranty work for blue spots on the led. So, my guess is if none of the moisture detectors/stickers if it has them are smeared then you might do okay just telling them it stopped working. Don't tell them about the water or the drop. You can see what happens, but moto warranty center in U.S. is now being looked at for a class action lawsuit due to terrible warranty work. I am never buying moto again because of this.
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Dropping, especially in water is not normal wear.
jabobo said:
Hello,
My girlfriend has owned a Moto X Style for 3 months, which she was unfortunate to drop into the ground outside. It had the original bumper that came with the phone and a tempered glass screen protector on, so there were no visible damage to the phone. As it was slight rainy, the phone got a little wet and when she picked it up, there was already a little water behind the screen, and she turned it off and dried it off and let it sit in rice for about 19 hours to get the moist out. After 19 hours she tried to use it and it looked fine as all the water was gone, but about 1-1,5cm of the screen now does not register touch.
The phone was only on the ground about 20 seconds, so is it covered by the warranty?
The phone does have that nano-coating that is supposed to protect it from water spray.. I believe dropping your phone into the ground once is considered normal wear and tear, or am I wrong?
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You can try. I've owned 2 moto x phones (1st gen and style) and both have been through far worse situations with no damage to screen. It looks like that fall must've damaged her screen somehow. I don't think this is covered under warranty.
No damage, as a result from water or drops, is covered under the standard warranty. If you have insurance, then you can file a claim. If you wish to try and do a warranty claim, be prepared for it to be denied should any evidence show water damage internally. State it quit working and leave it at that.
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Thank you all for answers. I have been in contact with Motorola customer service and the warranty does not cover it. They sent me details for a repair shop in my country.
My only chance now is my insurance, which takes for ever to process..
I am considering to buy a new screen + digitizer and change it myself as it does not cost too much and it is relatively easy. My only concern is that the phone stops working in the long haul because it is impossible to know how much was damaged by the water.. The phone is usable and is in use now, and the only problem is the touch still.. Is it worth a try?
If I send it in for repairs they may probably say it's unrepairable because I believe there are sensors in the phone that detect water damage, and I will have to pay for them to ship it back unrepaired...
If you have insurance on your phone you should read through it to see what is covered. Most cover water damage and cracked screens (lost/stolen usually not). If water damage is covered, most insurance companies will either give you a reconditioned model or in select few cases give money to replace it. If you are really lucky you will get a new one.
This is assuming you took out insurance specifically on your phone. If you are referring to homeowners or renters insurance, you will have to check your policy. Many cover the phone as a result of "acts of nature" or theft/robbery but may not cover accidents of your own doing.
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Did it work?
I have similar issue and wondering if you replaced the front screen did it work?
jabobo said:
Thank you all for answers. I have been in contact with Motorola customer service and the warranty does not cover it. They sent me details for a repair shop in my country.
My only chance now is my insurance, which takes for ever to process..
I am considering to buy a new screen + digitizer and change it myself as it does not cost too much and it is relatively easy. My only concern is that the phone stops working in the long haul because it is impossible to know how much was damaged by the water.. The phone is usable and is in use now, and the only problem is the touch still.. Is it worth a try?
If I send it in for repairs they may probably say it's unrepairable because I believe there are sensors in the phone that detect water damage, and I will have to pay for them to ship it back unrepaired...
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I ended up buying a new screen with the frame and I changed it. It was pretty straightforward as I followed some youtube guides. Phone works perfectly now. I recommend that you buy the new screeen with the frame and everything because it's a real pain to change without the frame.
I dropped my phone in the water and the water damage sticker turned red. Does anyone know where you can purchase them.
no idea. but can you answer us something...
how long it was in the water, did the device go under as in submerged, and does it still work, thanks.
Changing those stickers is considered fraud. Best to just leave it. I do recommend taking it to highly rated repair shop to have the board cleaned of all corrosion so it doesn't die in you randomly later on.
I have a question, it seems both LG and Samsung say they won't warranty the phone for water damage even though its supposed to be waterproof for up to 30 minutes or whatever. But if its waterproof and falls in water and gets damaged, would't that qualify as a defective phone?
I've been dying to get a waterproof phone as it is just easier when I'm in the pool with the kids and can keep the phone near by, in the jacuzzi etc, but does no good if the phone could be defective out of the box and the companies won't cover it.
It's not waterproof, it's water resistant. That's why they won't warranty for water damage.
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The below is a quote from a Samsung PDF I just found on their site about the S7 series. Clearly they are made to survive being dropped in water same as the s8. But what if I or you or anyone else gets the one that isn't completely sealed?
"The Samsung Galaxy S7 and S7 edge devices
have been certified to an IP68 rating. The Samsung Galaxy S7 and S7 edge are built to do
more, in more places. With an IP68 rating, they’re water resistant to a maximum depth of 1.5m
for up to 30 minutes, and are protected from dust, dirt and sand - all without the need for extra
caps or covers. Now there’s less to worry about. You can enjoy more freedom to explore, stay
connected, and capture the adventure."
Nota-joke : I'm wondering if OEMs are not just anticipating people who would daily wash their phone with soap (detergent)...
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Nota-joke : I'm wondering if OEMs are not just anticipating people who would daily wash their phone with soap (detergent)...
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**** we're not supposed to do that now???
I have a Sony that's IP68 and this has always been a perplexing question. Sony changed their warranty terms a couple of years ago to make it worthless. If water intrudes through the port seals, then it must be user error. But what if the seals are defective?
I don't blame them for not warranty water proof. You can only go so deep in the water for this phone and there is no proof of how far the person put it
My son was watching the sexy Sax man video in the tub last night underwater on the s8+... No problems at all but wifi starts having trouble while in the water lol
Don't worry about if if you have insurance, enjoy.. I'm ready to take off the case as well to enjoy the phone ad the designers intended..
If you want to live in fear and not enjoy the device go right ahead.. But life life.. Its only a phone.
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I don't blame them for not warranty water proof. You can only go so deep in the water for this phone and there is no proof of how far the person put it
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Exactly, they'd just open the floodgates for all sorts of dubious claims.
Just be sensible. It's not like Samsung are just making it up, it's rated by an independent body. You'll be fine with it next to the pool, just don't start putting it in salt water (or chlorine?) or going deep sea diving with it.
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robl45 said:
I have a question, it seems both LG and Samsung say they won't warranty the phone for water damage even though its supposed to be waterproof for up to 30 minutes or whatever. But if its waterproof and falls in water and gets damaged, would't that qualify as a defective phone?
I've been dying to get a waterproof phone as it is just easier when I'm in the pool with the kids and can keep the phone near by, in the jacuzzi etc, but does no good if the phone could be defective out of the box and the companies won't cover it.
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I fixed phones for Samsung and I can tell you, liquid damage does not fall under the warranty. Even if the phone is in perfect state.
They even make commercials with people jumping in a pool with an S8, but I wouldn't risk it if it's not insured.
I am talking mainly about S7 and S7 edge here because there are more S7 owners. But that one also has a water resistant label on it. Yet I always had to charge people for it. Not sure about the S8. Most S8 with liquid damage I fixed had cracked screens. They did seem more protected on the inside and thicker tapes.
Biggest thing I tell people is just because it is dont mean you have to...
Think about repeated water contact on the usb ports I dont care all metals will eventually oxidize or corrode which will lead to usb problems at minimum..I have a rubber plug in mine as I live in a near 6 months out of the year winter area means loads of salt and snow or moisture....
The whole idea rite now of water resistant phone is basically if you get soaked in the rain or somethin you phone is not destroyed...
1.5 m means standing water...No showers no pool showers are jets of pressurized water and can compromise the water seals...
Most swimming pools public at least are more than 1.5 meters deep.....
Why risk a 5 6 7 hundred dollar device to Go swimming or stuff like that...
*Galaxy S8 and S8+ are rated IP68, meaning they were tested to be resistant to dust and up to 1.5 meters of water for 30 minutes.
As advertised on there website.
My S8 fell into a bowl of cold fresh water about 5 inches deep for about 5 seconds, now its stopped working and Samsung telling me manufacture warranty is void for liquid damage.
My Note 8 had a few dead pixels in bottom left corner. I sent in for warranty repair (11 months old). The phone has never been near water. I got phone back from service center with a water damage note saying warranty was void. Its a Standard Samsung reply to void all warranty claims. They included a photo of a mother board with my IMI number hand written on it. In my experience tearing down older phones the IMI number is clearly labeled on the Motherboard which it wasn't in the case of the photo sent to me.
I expect dead pixels on the screens are going to be a big warranty Item for Samsung and they are trying to mitigate using the water damage clause. I will never by a Samsung product again.
S8 plus water resistance issue
I m the owner of an s8 plus and Samsung says that the phone comes with ip68 and my question is since I was in water park and after coming from water my phone's display got colour damage there is not even a single dent in screen or in the phone but when I do the brightness low the phone start's becoming like rainbow and now I'm in the service centre of the Samsung and know they are saying the warranty of of ip68 is only stands for 1 year
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I m the owner of an s8 plus and Samsung says that the phone comes with ip68 and my question is since I was in water park and after coming from water my phone's display got colour damage there is not even a single dent in screen or in the phone but when I do the brightness low the phone start's becoming like rainbow and now I'm in the service centre of the Samsung and know they are saying the warranty of of ip68 is only stands for 1 year
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Samsung does not cover water damage. The phones warranty is only 1 year salt and pool water are devastating to the seals. Samsung is being sued in Australia over this on the s10
Is this device water proof or water resistant if so how deep and how long. Im on ls997
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Is this device water proof or water resistant if so how deep and how long. Im on ls997
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Although the girl at the AT&T store told me it was, the product specs (water proof/resistant is normally listed in "Body" section) doesn't list anything about being water proof/resistant. Only way to find out is drop it in water and see what happens. But for me, I'll just trust the specs and conclude that it isn't...
Even if it was listed as water resistant(which its not) because of the way the removable battery is there would be maybe 3 seconds before the phone shorts out. The back cover has no water protection and there are warranty pads(the little things that turn pink with water damage) under the back cover
I dropped my v20 in a puddle at work yesterday. It's isn't water resistant at all. I quickly removed the battery and put it in front of an air conditioner. I got home and dropped it in a bag of rice overnight. The only thing that is wrong now is a dime sized dark area when the screen is lit up just above the headphone jack. I fear of it was in the puddle any longer than 5 seconds it would have been toast.