Hey Guys,
am am very new to the scene.
Currently I am messing around with some OP2 roms but cant decide which way to go.
Since I don't want to start a big discussion nor messing around with all roms available. All that installation and configuration process making me nuts.
Therefore I will give a statement what features the rom should have.
First of all the rom should be stable, meaning no reboots.
The rom should be very smooth without any hiccups.
The rom should also be very battery efficient while screen on and off (but I think this is more related to a proper kernel and configuration).
Additionally the rom should allow some customization, like a theme-engine.
That's all I need.
Currently I've tested out Paranoid with the default kernel and I think that it is very hungry on battery. Were screen off is fine, due to Greenify, PowerNap and Amplify, the screen on consumption is pretty high (~4h SOT).
I am thinking about giving CM13 a try, but I feel, that there are some bugs left (Slow GPS, Vector bug,...). Therefore I don't see a reason to install a rom which might be pretty awesome, but due to an additional configuration task and buggy features turns out to be not suitable.
p.s. sorry for dat english :silly:
are you desi ?
Official cm13 with boeffla kernel and v7's "optimized" profile. Both performance and battery friendly. Gonna switch to the first "stable" nougat build soon tho. All op2 builds are good just pick one that tickles yer fancy.
I use Beanstalk with Boeffla kernel
Official cm13 with boeffla kernel and v7's "optimized" profile. Both performance and battery friendly. Gonna switch to the first "stable" nougat build soon tho. All op2 builds are good just pick one that tickles yer fancy.
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Do you use the latest stable or nightly CM13 build? And what is v7's?
are you desi ?
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I dont get you, sorry. Guess no is the answer.
Hey guys, first post on the XDA forums so I'm hoping i don't duck this up or post in the wrong sub-forum.
I'm looking for the best gaming/performance centered ROM available for the Samsung S4 -i9505. I've used THOR for a while, but moved onto WizCyan to test it out and I had the same lingering feeling of a lack of RAM that caused stuttering in-game, especially with WizCyan. I'd like to ask what you guys use for gaming/your daily driver and how good it is performance-wise. The most intensive stuff I do on the phone is usually NFS No Limits on High-Medium graphics settings. I'd love to get some community input on what is valued as a primarily performance centered ROM. If said ROM also had a feature or way to switch to a more battery centered mode,that'd be fantastic too but I understand if such a unicorn does not exist. Any and all input is appreciated, thank you!
Side Note: I have read some of the suggested threads, but they're all quite old and lots of ROMs have been created and updated, so I wanted to see what the scene is like now.
If you're looking for gaming performance, an AOSP-based ROM such as the ROMs from JDCTeam is probably best. The ROMs you've tried, while they all have had much of the annoying software from Samsung stripped out of them, all have the Touchwiz skin still applied, which has been demonstrably proven to have a negative effect on performance.
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
If you're looking for gaming performance, an AOSP-based ROM such as the ROMs from JDCTeam is probably best. The ROMs you've tried, while they all have had much of the annoying software from Samsung stripped out of them, all have the Touchwiz skin still applied, which has been demonstrably proven to have a negative effect on performance.
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Thank you for the reply! I'll definitely check out some of the JDC team releases, hopefully Shark Jungle has some reviews on them. Have you tested any? If so, which one did you prefer most? Thanks again for the advice!
Coleh said:
Thank you for the reply! I'll definitely check out some of the JDC team releases, hopefully Shark Jungle has some reviews on them. Have you tested any? If so, which one did you prefer most? Thanks again for the advice!
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Yes, Shark Jungle did test some. But he thinks TouchWiz ROMs have better gaming performance than CM or AOSP ROMs.
I would take that with a grain of salt, but it's up to you to decide.
Anyway, there aren't many JDCTeam ROMs, it's just Android versions that differ. The main branches are Optimized CM and AOSP.
I would recommend the AOSP branch, as it seems generally faster than CM. It may be because AOSP is less cluttered, while CM has lots of CM stuff that may bog down the ROM.
JDCTeam ROMs come bundled with a custom kernel. It has 5 predefined profiles, ranging from extreme battery to extreme performance (that's the profile names). The extreme performance profile is almost the same as setting your CPU Governor to Performance. You get the same speed, but with the advantage of your CPU not being stuck on the max frequency.
And then there's Slim ROMs. Similar to the AOSP described above, minus the custom kernel. But you can use Kernel Adiutor to adjust some of the stock kernel settings and create a performance profile similar to the one found in the JDCTeam kernel.
GDReaper said:
Yes, Shark Jungle did test some. But he thinks TouchWiz ROMs have better gaming performance than CM or AOSP ROMs.
I would take that with a grain of salt, but it's up to you to decide.
Anyway, there aren't many JDCTeam ROMs, it's just Android versions that differ. The main branches are Optimized CM and AOSP.
I would recommend the AOSP branch, as it seems generally faster than CM. It may be because AOSP is less cluttered, while CM has lots of CM stuff that may bog down the ROM.
JDCTeam ROMs come bundled with a custom kernel. It has 5 predefined profiles, ranging from extreme battery to extreme performance (that's the profile names). The extreme performance profile is almost the same as setting your CPU Governor to Performance. You get the same speed, but with the advantage of your CPU not being stuck on the max frequency.
And then there's Slim ROMs. Similar to the AOSP described above, minus the custom kernel. But you can use Kernel Adiutor to adjust some of the stock kernel settings and create a performance profile similar to the one found in the JDCTeam kernel.
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Thank you for your help mate! I went AOSP, the RAM availability is great. After switching to F2FS boot times and game loadup times are also incredibly fast. NFS Gameplay is smooth too. Thanks for everything!
Coleh said:
Thank you for your help mate! I went AOSP, the RAM availability is great. After switching to F2FS boot times and game loadup times are also incredibly fast. NFS Gameplay is smooth too. Thanks for everything!
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I would be careful with F2FS. I had data loss while using that format. And random phone wipes, including internal storage.
This happened only occasionally during a reboot.
If you don't reboot very often, chances are lower of it happening, but there still is a small risk.
Hi guys which Rom is good for gaming Thor or wizcyan? Thx
Neither, as Touchwiz affects gaming performance.
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Neither, as Touchwiz affects gaming performance.
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Which rom do you prefere for me?
Read the thread.
I have been using custom rom on this device since i bought it and took it out of the box (4-5 months ago).
To be honest and coming from other "superior" device, in terms of performance this device never disappointed me, for me it's like a "diesel car", you'll not have the power that maybe you are able to get whether you have a device powered by a Snapdragon 800-35 series. But this device ever performs very decently in every task, without major troubles.
Today i used my girlfriend's G4 Plus Dual-SIM XT1641 (totally stock, non-rooted, no anything, besides the lot of trash apps/games and Google bloatware that she has installed) and surprisingly i felt it much more "light/fast", for example when scrolling. So, i decided to make comparissions using the so much hated benchmark test (Geekbench 4 specifically, and AnTuTu 3D).
My results were:
Stock Nougat (7.0 June security patch):
Single-core: 742
Multi-Core: 3081
Stock LineageOS 14.1 (without modifications):
Single-Core: 662
Multi-core: 2314
The stock G4 plus did the test 5 minutes more quickly than the other one (mine XT1641 Single-SIM).
Then, i did the same test with AnTuTu, the result was similar, the stock one scored like a 20% better, and ended the test 3-4 minutes first. But the important thing for me was in the graphics test (GPU), honestly the stock one destroyed my device (running 14.1) in terms of graphic smoothness (FPS). The graphics in my device were really slow and i could see this slowdown in real time (running the test in both devices side to side, in the same time) [5/7FPS less than the stock one].
I use LineageOS 14.1 with his stock kernel, as it comes.
The obvious question:
[Question]: Why this happens?
I ask this because in every device that i owned the results were the opposite, i mean: CyanogenMod/LineageOS was pretty superior than the Stock rom (in terms of performance and even in benchmarking tests).
Don't get me wrong and think that i am complaining about the custom rom performance, in fact, i love (and i'm currently using) custom roms. I am just curious about the reasons of these results.
Your opinions are really welcome.
I never use or trust benchmarks. I always go off by what feels better to me.
reCoded said:
I never use or trust benchmarks. I always go off by what feels better to me.
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Definitely that's te way to go. :good:
I can also say that stock is alot smoother than the custom ROMs. Gaming performance is also better and I've even tried asking why custom ROMs gaming performance suffers compared to stock but no one seems to respond
I've tried LOS and ViperOS on my G4 Plus (XT1640 2gb RAM). The performance was much better with both custom ROM's, It was very snappy, held more apps in memory and was a more pleasant experience. Stock ROM perfoemance is not bad, but I see very clearly that the apps won't stay im memory for long and often I have scrolling lag when using facebook on chrome. For gaming I havent noticed any diference whatsoever.
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I've tried LOS and ViperOS on my G4 Plus (XT1640 2gb RAM). The performance was much better with both custom ROM's, It was very snappy, held more apps in memory and was a more pleasant experience. Stock ROM perfoemance is not bad, but I see very clearly that the apps won't stay im memory for long and often I have scrolling lag when using facebook on chrome. For gaming I havent noticed any diference whatsoever.
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What games have you tried?.
I've tried bleach brave souls and I get seriously bad lag compared to stock.
Although you are right about stock having bad memory management
yes even i feel the same in custom roms while scrolling or even while pulling the quick settings bar there is a lag but stock rom is pretty smooth and even the battery backup on stock is better than many custom roms but for most of the people thats ok and they dont care about these things and they like the customizations and theme support and many other features that are not available in stock
i personally feel like i can literally see the battery percentage going down in custom roms too fast
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yes even i feel the same in custom roms while scrolling or even while pulling the quick settings bar there is a lag but stock rom is pretty smooth and even the battery backup on stock is better than many custom roms but for most of the people thats ok and they dont care about these things and they like the customizations and theme support and many other features that are not available in stock
i personally feel like i can literally see the battery percentage going down in custom roms too fast
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Try the aosp one's like omni, aosp extended, ultra-caf, du, cypher (btw official 4.1 is out), pure nexus, cosmic they are smoother than most of the lineage based one's.
In my opinion, I'm thinking that if you root the phone the performance decreases. The more you do, the more the performance decreases. Stock roms all always better for me.
Will you install an stock rom or stay in linage??
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In my opinion, I'm thinking that if you root the phone the performance decreases. The more you do, the more the performance decreases. Stock roms all always better for me.
Will you install an stock rom or stay in linage??
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I am on stock right now, rooted with EX. I obtained the same results as the post (with Geekbench 4). I know that the score isn't really important, anyway, i will use this rom a couple of days, to take better conclusions.
I notice that on stock, I get 5-7 hours of SoT, but on any ROM, even stock aosp, I get 3-4 hours. Quite strange.
I am by no means an expert on this but maybe the Moto stock rom is just much better than most stock ROMs. Where a custom rom may show performance improvements over other custom ROMs, they aren't an improvement over other stick ROMs? I don't know . I think the developers of ROMs for our device have done a fantastic job and I enjoy the customizations the ROMs offer. After having hard bricked my last phone twice (unable to bring back to life the last time), I am sticking with a locked bootloader and stock for awhile. Don't want to have to replace my phone again.
Multi-core: 2330 with Cypheros 7.1.2
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I am by no means an expert on this but maybe the Moto stock rom is just much better than most stock ROMs. Where a custom rom may show performance improvements over other custom ROMs, they aren't an improvement over other stick ROMs? I don't know . I think the developers of ROMs for our device have done a fantastic job and I enjoy the customizations the ROMs offer. After having hard bricked my last phone twice (unable to bring back to life the last time), I am sticking with a locked bootloader and stock for awhile. Don't want to have to replace my phone again.
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Totally agreed, developers like Silesh.Nair, Jleeblanch, vache, and others did amazing jobs here. We are lucky to have devs of that level, because we have ROMs of quality and variety for this device. Thanks for your great opinion.
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Try the aosp one's like omni, aosp extended, ultra-caf, du, cypher (btw official 4.1 is out), pure nexus, cosmic they are smoother than most of the lineage based one's.
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I installed OmniROM yesterday, used it for a while, and yes, it runs much more smoother than the LOS based ROMs i've tried, also i did the Geekbench 4 test, the results were: Multi-Core: 3081, Single-Core: 738, hence, the test is not lying (same results as the stock rom).
Still i do not know why the performance of the LOS baseds rom is not like the AOSP ones. I am not saying this only based in the results of a test.
I am currently on RR because i love his customization and features, but i see the difference when i try AOSP in terms of overall performance.
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I installed OmniROM yesterday, used it for a while, and yes, it runs much more smoother than the LOS based ROMs i've tried, also i did the Geekbench 4 test, the results were: Multi-Core: 3081, Single-Core: 738, hence, the test is not lying (same results as the stock rom).
Still i do not know why the performance of the LOS baseds rom is not like the AOSP ones. I am not saying this only based in the results of a test.
I am currently on RR because i love his customization and features, but i see the difference when i try AOSP in terms of overall performance.
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Which ROM did you recommend for more battery and performance? Based on your device and your experience.
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Which ROM did you recommend for more battery and performance? Based on your device and your experience.
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OmniROM, without a doubt. I tried plenty of roms, it's seems to be the only purely AOSP based. This rom performs like the stock one but whit the plus of a better battery life.
The only bad thing about Omni could be that is has not all the features that the LOS based ones offers, like Invicta or RR.
well, that's right. for me stock rom also feels a lot smoother faster and battery life is incredible. best stock software i've seen from motorola. i like custom roms and all the possibilities they bring, and we already have some very stable like invicta, or LOS. but i love this phone on stock (and debloated hehehe)
I haven't followed touchwiz roms for a very long time now.. I have been using lineageos nougat/oreo based roms.
But I want to try a touchwiz rom again mainly for the camera and battery life.
What is the best one?
in my World of understanding all this Android-Verse. Not a single TouchWiz can be called optimized or good for this Phone - TouchWiz from the old Days already sucked almost 700MB of the only 2GB RAM - just for being loaded...
so in my opinion best you can do is what i do - CFW RR or CFW DotOS (RR with Android 9) and DotOS very Soon with Android 9) best Batterylife - i run atleast 2 Days without charge @normal usage
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I haven't followed touchwiz roms for a very long time now.. I have been using lineageos nougat/oreo based roms.
But I want to try a touchwiz rom again mainly for the camera and battery life.
What is the best one?
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Try unique v 3.1. in my case even fingerprint works
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in my World of understanding all this Android-Verse. Not a single TouchWiz can be called optimized or good for this Phone - TouchWiz from the old Days already sucked almost 700MB of the only 2GB RAM - just for being loaded...
so in my opinion best you can do is what i do - CFW RR or CFW DotOS (RR with Android 9) and DotOS very Soon with Android 9) best Batterylife - i run atleast 2 Days without charge @normal usage
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Hello zoidberg i see u are a futurama fan
There are many Pie based roms for redmi 3s and there were many threads asking for best/stable Pie roms! And as anyone would guess and expect, there were many (different) replies further increasing the confusion. This poll will help aggregate the individual responses
So go ahead fellow land users, tell me which Pie based ROM according to your usage is stable in terms of performance, most of the features are working, have good bb along with some customization.
Pixel experience is pretty much stable and well performance
I have been here on this forum since 3 years and the roms with difr,nichcream and teammex sources(not with us now) are the best.....
currently using havoc os unofficial by weritos and this is arguably one of the best roms i have ever used on this device...it is just like liquid remix unofficial by difr but with added goodies of android pie and havoc os....Go for this rom and you wont have to look anywhere else...roms with other sources are slow..especially the reloaded roms and still they give average battery backup..i dont know why some sources follow standard miui cpu management and turn off 2 cpu big cores all the time....it is useless and just lags the system overall...there is no core turning off in nichcream sources..all the cores are active all the time except when battery percentage falls below 5-10%...just install kernel auditor and set min frequency to 422 and 345 for big and little cores and enjoy smoothest,stable and a good battery (8 hours sot)oriented rom!
Sidenote: If you are looking for a bugless,battery oriented rom (with double tap to wake) go for dot os by K7jhin..it is giving regularly more than 9 hours of sot..but ram management sucks
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Pixel experience is pretty much stable and well performance
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I tried PE but volte wasn't working.. I had to install jio4gvoice to do and receive calls n text. Now that is deal breaker for me coz jio4gvoice do not provide smooth n rich experience not to forget the battery it drains by running all the time
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I have been here on this forum since 3 years and the roms with difr,nichcream and teammex sources(not with us now) are the best.....
currently using havoc os unofficial by weritos and this is arguably one of the best roms i have ever used on this device...it is just like liquid remix unofficial by difr but with added goodies of android pie and havoc os....Go for this rom and you wont have to look anywhere else...roms with other sources are slow..especially the reloaded roms and still they give average battery backup..i dont know why some sources follow standard miui cpu management and turn off 2 cpu big cores all the time....it is useless and just lags the system overall...there is no core turning off in nichcream sources..all the cores are active all the time except when battery percentage falls below 5-10%...just install kernel auditor and set min frequency to 422 and 345 for big and little cores and enjoy smoothest,stable and a good battery (8 hours sot)oriented rom!
Sidenote: If you are looking for a bugless,battery oriented rom (with double tap to wake) go for dot os by K7jhin..it is giving regularly more than 9 hours of sot..but ram management sucks
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Thanks for your suggestion. I will try havoc os but I have not yet tinkered with kernel and overclocking cpu so will try that later after reading lil bit about them. If you know of any good thread/article providing prerequisites and step by step process of doing it, can you send that to me