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The amount of RAM seems to have fallen to 1100 MB since 4.3. Is this also taken up by the GPU? Or what else could explain this?
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I think it is taken up by system and other system staff. BTW, is the memory leak issue solved in 4.3?
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The ram is not bogging up due to the surface flinger fix by driver correction. Yes the main problem is fixed, no more random reboot or freeze up. Let's party like its 1999!!!
drewskee said:
The ram is not bogging up due to the surface flinger fix by driver correction. Yes the main problem is fixed, no more random reboot or freeze up. Let's party like its 1999!!!
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Thx for Great news!! My manta could finally work like a true monster device!
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Koopa777 said:
The amount of RAM seems to have fallen to 1100 MB since 4.3. Is this also taken up by the GPU? Or what else could explain this?
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Yes but the amount of free RAM I have available actually seems to have gone up.
Either way the device is working worlds better!
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Is anyone else finding that apps are reloading more frequently? What's the standard limit? I had about 6 apps in my recent and a few of them had to reload upon selecting them from the list. A quick look at the free RAM is somewhere in the 700 MB ballpark. I don't recall this happening before as much.
User space ram was cut down to 1100mb with the 4.2 update by reserving 800mb for the gpu. The surfaceflinger plague seems to be fixed, we'll have to wait and see if that was the only culprit causing instabilities on our Nexus 10. So far, and this might be a placebo because I did a factory reset, things seem to run fairly OK, there are a few glitches and minor freezes, and yes even though there is plenty of ram, the min free values might need a bit tweaking because apps seem to get killed off for no apparent reason.
I'm guessing that it even might be possible to revert the decision to increase such a huge amount of ram for the gpu, which would leave more free ram for background apps. That is if Google doesn't abandon support for the device all together.
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We really need to complaint about this. Advertised 2gb of ram, 1.1gb out of the box. Not fair!
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They need to give us more space. 1.5gb at least!
Free ram is waste ram.
The people complaining - when do you have an issue due to lack of free ram?
ultim said:
Free ram is waste ram.
The people complaining - when do you have an issue due to lack of free ram?
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The only thing I'm complaining about is the abundance of free RAM and the fact that apps are getting killed off. I've only got a few running and I'm getting redraws after like.. 20 minutes.
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The only thing I'm complaining about is the abundance of free RAM and the fact that apps are getting killed off. I've only got a few running and I'm getting redraws after like.. 20 minutes.
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Same here. Its quite annoying. That RAM is being totally wasted right now. I wouldn't care if I had 300MB left if my recent applications were actually KEPT in memory!
I experienced the issue initially after flashing the odexed version. even with 650mb+ tabs were reloading (all two if them) when accessing any other app. reflashed the zip and supersu and all is well here. though allocating another 100mb to the GPU seems questionable to me on Google's end.
all you experiencing the redraws update via ota?
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vasili0s said:
I experienced the issue initially after flashing the odexed version. even with 650mb+ tabs were reloading (all two if them) when accessing any other app. reflashed the zip and supersu and all is well here. though allocating another 100mb to the GPU seems questionable to me on Google's end.
all you experiencing the redraws update via ota?
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Yeah I sideloaded the OTA. I'd rather not lose my data. Thinking of trying the supercharge script to alter the min free values.
These values work really well on 4.3:
MinFree
12288,16384,51200,61440,71680,102400
oom_adj
0,1,4,7,10,15
Google is learning, with every release they keep getting closer to the ones I have been using for years. LOL
If you don't have init.d active you can adjust them in init.rc without any scripts. I haven't checked but they might be overwritten by ActivityManagerService.java at boot though. That is why I use init.d.
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vasili0s said:
I experienced the issue initially after flashing the odexed version. even with 650mb+ tabs were reloading (all two if them) when accessing any other app. reflashed the zip and supersu and all is well here. though allocating another 100mb to the GPU seems questionable to me on Google's end.
all you experiencing the redraws update via ota?
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It actually makes sense to have around 1 GB allocated for the GPU considering the resolution of this tablet. The framebuffer alone could saturate most of that in a 3D application running at full res. The Nexus 7 v.2 just about doubled the res and doubled the RAM along with it.
brees75 said:
These values work really well on 4.3:
MinFree
12288,16384,51200,61440,71680,102400
oom_adj
0,1,4,7,10,15
Google is learning, with every release they keep getting closer to the ones I have been using for years. LOL
If you don't have init.d active you can adjust them in init.rc without any scripts. I haven't checked but they might be overwritten by ActivityManagerService.java at boot though. That is why I use init.d.
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It actually makes sense to have around 1 GB allocated for the GPU considering the resolution of this tablet. The framebuffer alone could saturate most of that in a 3D application running at full res. The Nexus 7 v.2 just about doubled the res and doubled the RAM along with it.
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I'll try out those values. Thanks.
Any of you successufly ran supercharger script on 4.3? Its not working on my factory image, rooted, deodexed, busybox from the starter kit.
Hi everyone,
I am to new to XDA forums sorry if i posted this on on section recently i bough my powerful beast grand 2 gaming was very smooth on this phone even on high graphics no matter what was the game it do quite awesome i have problem games like asphalt 8 when i move to sd card only 18.21 MB something move to sd card and additional game data of 1.32 GB something stays on phone memory it happen wid all big game like shadowgun
wether small apps of 8 MB 6.82 MB goes to sd card if i manually move data file to sd card game doesnt detect files i dont wanna root my grand little bit afraid of bricking so any other way to get rid of this problem without rooting
plzz Help friends
No Solution
Only The Apk Of The App Can Be Moved To SD Whereas The Data File Of The Game Will Remain In Android/OBB Folder In Internal Memory .....So Theres Nothing Can Be Done To Move The Data Of The Game !
what about rooting is cf root method safe as too manysaying that wid this grand 2 bricked or setting stop unfortunately
not Recomended
i wont recommend you to root ! Grand 2 is an Awesome Phone and has all the features like high ram and speed ! y do u wanna root it and spoil it !
plzz tell me only onthing that hardware of grand 2 good to support all games in market on high graphics is andreno 305 goo gpu for gaming
Bro I have played modern combat 4 without any lag in my G2 ! We have one of d best phone out there in our hand ! Only thing make sure while playing high games u have alot of ram free ! if u have ram under ur control u can do anything wid it ! But ya i did find a bit of lag in San andreas but it worked smooth when I lowered the graphics
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Tips
× clear ram as much as possible
× delete unused apps
× don't use widgets
× disable system apps
× drain ur battery to 0% once every month
× Avoid usin Facebook or clean master app
× use cache cleaner
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Bcuz though Facebook and clean master are awesome they still eat alot of ram ! 100 my will be eaten by both of en
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My friend has s3 and sanandreas on max graphic run smoothly why not grand 2 andreno 305 is way better than mali400 mp4
Maybe
Maybe Its Bcuz It Has Quad core, 1400 MHz, ARM Cortex-A9 Whereas
Grand 2 Is Quad core, 1200 MHz, ARM Cortex-A7 !
maybe whatever thanks for your help is there themes for stock ROM grand 2
Not themes but ya there is a custom rom but I don't recommend bcuz soon we will get d kitkat update but there is a themer launcher it's awesome
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mycolorscreen.themer
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I have a thread in Themes and apps .... check it out I have listed awesome apps in it and I keep updating it as soon as I find new apps
Hello,
I'm a Senior-Moderator in the biggest german speaking Android community. A user has discovered a way how you can optimize the RAM management and multitasking on the LG G3 2GB RAM version. More and more users are reporting about apps, that are closed to fast. Also for me, this was very depressing.
We are not responsible for any damages to you, your device or your data!!!!
Of course you will ned root for this.
When you look at a Nexus you can see, that multitasking works much better. This isn't only the fact, that on Nexus devices don't runs any OEM software. The main problem is, that the 3GB and 2GB versions often run with the same ROM. When you start the G3 about 1.3 GB of RAM is used. When you start the Nexus 5 for example, only about 800-900MB is used.
LG defines these values, how much RAM should be used by the system, in the "build.prop". If we change these values, we can reduce force closes at multitasking.
You have to change following values:
"ro.sys.fw.mOomMinFree1"
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"ro.sys.fw.mOomMinFree6"
To change these values, you can use this tool for example: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.jrummy.apps.build.prop.editor
When you use Lollipop klick on the PENCIL right on the bottom! Don't edit it with the UI you get presented first!
These are the recommended values (the values are given in KB):
Code:
ro.sys.fw.mOomMinFree1=49152
ro.sys.fw.mOomMinFree2=61440
ro.sys.fw.mOomMinFree3=65000
ro.sys.fw.mOomMinFree4=70000
ro.sys.fw.mOomMinFree5=80000
ro.sys.fw.mOomMinFree6=100000
NOTE!!!! These values are not final and you can test other values. We would appreciate that! So we could find the perfect values for our G3!
Credits:
The analysis and the recommended values goes to this user here: @systemstress
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tried but seems not working never ending reboot...
Same config :laugh: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56228170&postcount=1259
Important!
This is not working on Lollipop, phone will restore defult valute after reboot (if you are unluckey bootloop?)
Settings stick for me on AN 3.3. Dont know if they are better or not at the moment
The values remained after reboot for me, so I guess does work on Lollipop
robalm said:
Important!
This is not working on Lollipop, phone will restore defult valute after reboot (if you are unluckey bootloop?)
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It works just fine on mine (2GB D855) and I'm on Chupachubs Lollipop rom. I used the suggested tool and no bootloop and changes are persistent.
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Okay this REALLY makes a huge difference on my phone!!
I have debloated the rom as much as I could, but it still wasn't good.
With this fix it's simply perfect!!
Like my good ol' Nexus 5!
Thank you sooooo much!
Running Facebook, Maps, Chrome and Google Inbox and no apps close down on 2 GB version!
i have 3gb G3. will these settings work? thanks
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robalm said:
Same config :laugh: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=56228170&postcount=1259
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As I said. I took the settings from a user in our german speaking board.
It works definitely on Lollipop. I have configured my build.prop like this and more RAM is available for multitasking now.
will this drain battery faster if apps aren't closed?
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Nope. RAM is always under voltage. It is doesn't matter if the RAM is full or not.
@ phankhi ....you dont need this settings with 3gb ram
@systemstress Discovered something. When you use the build.prop Editor App, you have to click on the pencil right on the bottom. Then it will be saved after a reboot. Otherwise there can be problems.
You can also use any app that lets you change OOM values, like tricksterMOD or 'memory manager' by JRummy.. This will change the value just after boot and leave the build.prop unchanged.
Works!
Can feel and see it directly.
There is a big difference with those values :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-build-prop-tweaks-free-ram-t2825693
What will it change and what is supposed to be the best?
Rafael1000 said:
There is a big difference with those values :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-build-prop-tweaks-free-ram-t2825693
What will it change and what is supposed to be the best?
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The values in that thread are just plain idiotic, even on the 3GB model. You need to free up sufficient RAM so that any app can run, but not so much that you close everything.
Not working for me... D851 3gb version.
Reposted thread
I already make this thread on July 2014
See here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-build-prop-tweaks-free-ram-t2825693
I'm on 2gb ram 16gb roms..
The ram usage is very very iritating
spiderio said:
Reposted thread
I already make this thread on July 2014
See here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/lg-g3/general/guide-build-prop-tweaks-free-ram-t2825693
I'm on 2gb ram 16gb roms..
The ram usage is very very iritating
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Your 'tweaks' are the exact opposite to this. As has already been said, we dont want more free RAM, we want less, we want the RAM to actually be used, which is the point of it being there..
Does anyone notice that on the latest build .185, the GPU is at 510mhz?
but when you use kernel tweak tools, you can set it to 630mhz
question is, is there any other way to raise the clock to 630mhz permanently without using any apps?
worth noting !
Maybe this is the way Sony to reduce heat for Z3.
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krusir said:
Maybe this is the way Sony to reduce heat for Z3.
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120mhz difference, it will take 15 more seconds till it starts throttling?
i though the A57 cores were the main cause of overheating there
Well after gaming,browsing and everything else you do with your phone. I dunno what the fuss is about anymore.
zemetal said:
Does anyone notice that on the latest build .185, the GPU is at 510mhz?
but when you use kernel tweak tools, you can set it to 630mhz
question is, is there any other way to raise the clock to 630mhz permanently without using any apps?
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Thanks for the info. I have noticed that the performace goes bad in this version. Now i already fix it. I thing that only way to perform this is creating a custom 185 kernel with full speed by default.
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LMcR92 said:
Well after gaming,browsing and everything else you do with your phone. I dunno what the fuss is about anymore.
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How you could get more than 80k no antutu. I get only 70k....
Back up of DRM keys, unlock bootloader, debloated and using a script mod by K1ks and on Google plus search project skynet join test etc. Best performance and battery boost we can get on our device.
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LMcR92 said:
Back up of DRM keys, unlock bootloader, debloated and using a script mod by K1ks and on Google plus search project skynet join test etc. Best performance and battery boost we can get on our device.
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Oh I missed install twrp and SuperSU systemless root.
Guys, it's a phone, not a tablet to play with. Even if it's underclocked the performance is fine. More power means more heat.
Hello, I own the 6 GB ram version, and I think multitasking could be seriously improved.
I'm using ex kernel manager with stock ROM and kernel, and when I check the ram use it is always MAX 75%.
No matter how many apps I open, I can't use more than my 75% total or ram.
It means that I'll have always at least 1400 mb of ram which is huge!
Does anyone know how to be able to use more ram?
I think having 500-600 free ram is enough...