Related
Hi. I'd like to completely image my wildfire before rooting so that I have an image of it before I did anything. Just in case. Is it possible with soft root or unrevoked?
Bump......
Hi. I used androot to get a soft root. Any way to backup rom?
You could use adb to extract the whole tree, but it won't preserve permissions so will be useless.
Short answer: no. Do a proper root.
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
Yes, but the thing is that I want the ROM preserved completely as-is, with no custom recovery or anything. Say, something got broken in hardware, so to get the phone serviced I'd need to flash the stock ROM back on. I heard they don't even check the recovery, but if someone did I'd be in trouble.
On my Linux, I used "dd if=/dev/sda of=/root/hddimg" to get the byte-for-byte copy of my HDD. Will that work in Android as well?
EDIT: Of course I didn't mean /dev/sda, the ROM device is another one, right?
i don't think you can with soft root, you can dl titanium backup and save all your apps and settings on your sd card, but that won't backup your entire rom. i would just do a full root, im not that clumsy enough to kill my phone
you can also use the ruu to go back to your stock rom, but use the right one in case you lose root
I'm looking for a way of backing up my Vodafone Rom so when I install a sim free one I can restore all settings if I ever need to send if off for warranty, it won't void it.
Anything I can do???
Sent from my HTC Wildfire using XDA App
This doesn't make sense.
You can't ROOT a device, surely, without flashing the ROM?
So... ROOTING the device, by flashing the ROM, and THEN you want to backup the entire device? This sounds useless, as as soon as you ROOT the device, you've overwritten the original ROM! So how can you backup the Original ROM if you've overwritten it?
Which came first? The Chicken (ROM) or the Egg (Root)?
I didn't flash a ROM to get a root. I used Universal androot which does soft root on wildfire as well. Soft root means just getting root without modifying the system files permanently (ie. Changes disappear at reboot). Secondly, full root like unrevoked only write-unlocks the phone and flashes custom recover y. What I want is to have full backup of the phone WITHOUT the custom recovery so that when I flash it, it is the actual stock ROM. I know this is quite hard to do but I'm sure it is doable one way or another.
Can someone please link me to a thread on step by step Rooting
and backing up my entire device
its my first android phone and took me a long time to install apps n games n contacts a backup would help me a lot.
kindly help thank u
realxception said:
Can someone please link me to a thread on step by step Rooting
and backing up my entire device
its my first android phone and took me a long time to install apps n games n contacts a backup would help me a lot.
kindly help thank u
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
if you did a search of the forum or looked around the wildfire threads you'd easily find it... anyway here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=788776
to backup your rom you need to do a nandroid backup, to backup apps and data dl titanium backup
I know about nandroid. Don't you have to flash a custom recovery to use it? If so, then the original aim of preserving the ROM completely the way it is becomes broken, right?
xc1024 said:
I know about nandroid. Don't you have to flash a custom recovery to use it? If so, then the original aim of preserving the ROM completely the way it is becomes broken, right?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nandroid backs up your original rom, there is no other way to back up without root... unless you use a ruu to return to stock
Aren't RUUs a bit risky to use?
Yes if you use the wrong one. But rooting and flashing a custom rom is not , very simple and not hard
Wildfire is also my first android phone but I easily learnt by reading and searching around the forum.
So I just got my N4 two days ago, and I already installed all my apps, downloaded my files etc, now I want to root like I did on my previous phone (galaxy s3) but now im reading that it will full wipe the phone! WTF? why is that? In my s3 i just downloaded a file, pushed a button and BAM it was rooted, now here im seeing that the proccess isnt that easy and that it will also wipe everything in the phone, is there a way to keep my stuff the way it is and get rooted? and if not, can someone explain to me why is that wipe needed? and will it ever be possible to root without having to wipe?,
Thanks in advance, I've just been on android for like 4 months so Im no expert, when i read all the crazy stuff about the bootloader etc i get scared we've all been noobs right?... right...?
LRC1710 said:
So I just got my N4 two days ago, and I already installed all my apps, downloaded my files etc, now I want to root like I did on my previous phone (galaxy s3) but now im reading that it will full wipe the phone! WTF? why is that? In my s3 i just downloaded a file, pushed a button and BAM it was rooted, now here im seeing that the proccess isnt that easy and that it will also wipe everything in the phone, is there a way to keep my stuff the way it is and get rooted? and if not, can someone explain to me why is that wipe needed? and will it ever be possible to root without having to wipe?,
Thanks in advance, I've just been on android for like 4 months so Im no expert, when i read all the crazy stuff about the bootloader etc i get scared we've all been noobs right?... right...?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It isn't obtaining root that wipes the phone, it happens when you unlock the bootloader. Yes the bootloader must be unlocked to root.
LRC1710 said:
So I just got my N4 two days ago, and I already installed all my apps, downloaded my files etc, now I want to root like I did on my previous phone (galaxy s3) but now im reading that it will full wipe the phone! WTF? why is that? In my s3 i just downloaded a file, pushed a button and BAM it was rooted, now here im seeing that the proccess isnt that easy and that it will also wipe everything in the phone, is there a way to keep my stuff the way it is and get rooted? and if not, can someone explain to me why is that wipe needed? and will it ever be possible to root without having to wipe?,
Thanks in advance, I've just been on android for like 4 months so Im no expert, when i read all the crazy stuff about the bootloader etc i get scared we've all been noobs right?... right...?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
There may very well be an exploit that can be run from within Android to gain root privileges, but no one has bothered to look for one because it's immensely easier to just unlock the bootloader, throw on a custom recovery, and flash a zip to install root.
I know its frustrating having to setup your phone and redo it all over again. To make it easier on yourself I used MyBackupPro since I was not rooted, it restored pretty much everything including app data, and home screen icons. Try it out.
Then when you root backup with Titanium
I'm about to take my baby steps and root my Nexus 4 for the first time. I've read the sticky's and have a good idea of what I'd be doing, but I don't see much in the way of backing things up before root and as I understand, rooting wipes your data. Can anyone help me on this or at least better understand what I should do?
I'm also having difficulty understanding the whole bootloader and custom recovery too but not too much trouble. I'd just like to know how to install a custom recovery and how much risk I'm at of messing up my bootloader.
PGvossman said:
I'm about to take my baby steps and root my Nexus 4 for the first time. I've read the sticky's and have a good idea of what I'd be doing, but I don't see much in the way of backing things up before root and as I understand, rooting wipes your data. Can anyone help me on this or at least better understand what I should do?
I'm also having difficulty understanding the whole bootloader and custom recovery too but not too much trouble. I'd just like to know how to install a custom recovery and how much risk I'm at of messing up my bootloader.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Rooting does not wipe data, the unlocking process does. There is no really good way to backup everything prior to unlokcing, you could use My Backup but you should really use the Pro version which is $4.99 (Many people swear by it for unrooted phones, I have no real experience with it). Wugfresh's toolkit has a backup and restore when doing unlock, but honestly, it messed up my phone and I had to factory default anyways.
As long as you are syncing stuff to Google (contacts, pictures, videos, etc), have Android Backup& Restore enabled (handles apps and common system settings), SMS Backup & Restore (text and pix messages), and you pull of the other files you want, there is no real need to backup at all. I swap ROMs all the time, and this is all I do to go from one ROM to another.
As far as the actual rooting process, ie. flashing SuperSU, there is no need to backup prior to that... all that is going to do is add a few files in some system directories and that's it.
The greatest thing about a Nexus device is it's ability to be modified... and within normal means it is virtually unbrickable, so give it a shot, and if you screw it up ask for help, thousands of people here have done it and can help, and if you still can't figure out a problem just restore the Google system images and whoalla... your phone is back to out of box condition.
You are able to root and unlock without wiping any data. Just check out my guide (the link is in the stickies, too)
mihahn said:
You are able to root and unlock without wiping any data. Just check out my guide (the link is in the stickies, too)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I opened your links but they all seem to be about Xperia devices.
I don't quite understand. Isn't the unlocking process needed to root the phone, thereby loosing all the data?
easy
before rooting, you hav to unlock bootloader and it wipes your all pics videos etc so better backup in your pc and thn try root. foloow guide ,its easy, or search on youtube for videos...
parveen75 said:
before rooting, you hav to unlock bootloader and it wipes your all pics videos etc so better backup in your pc and thn try root. foloow guide ,its easy, or search on youtube for videos...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OK I guess that makes sense. Does that include phone contacts, SMS and passwords?
And I suppose my final question is the danger of the bootloader. Is it possible for a newbie like myself to ruin something accidentally?
PGvossman said:
I opened your links but they all seem to be about Xperia devices.
I don't quite understand. Isn't the unlocking process needed to root the phone, thereby loosing all the data?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah I meant the one in the stickies here, I'll add the guide to my signature later
But I meant this guide. It'll root before unlocking the bootloader and you are able to unlock without wiping then. Check it out
PGvossman said:
OK I guess that makes sense. Does that include phone contacts, SMS and passwords?
And I suppose my final question is the danger of the bootloader. Is it possible for a newbie like myself to ruin something accidentally?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I m also a newbie earlier . lol.. Only follow guide corectly for rooting.. U wl b good to go
Sent from my Nexus 4 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
mihahn said:
Yeah I meant the one in the stickies here, I'll add the guide to my signature later
But I meant this guide. It'll root before unlocking the bootloader and you are able to unlock without wiping then. Check it out
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks. Where does the whole custom recovery and such come into play on this though?
PGvossman said:
Thanks. Where does the whole custom recovery and such come into play on this though?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's not necessary to flash the recovery, but you may flash it if you want to and if you need it
Couple ways to do a backup without root.
Use adb,
eg. adb backup -all -apk -nosystem
Then pull files you want to backup
eg. adb pull /sdcard/
Or use helium app available from play store which is basically a gui for the adb backup command.
Thanks. I notice the -nosystem command, does that mean it won't back up system details?
I suppose my final question is Windows 8 support. I saw a thread a while back when you have to do something extra for the drivers and I can't seem to see it in the sticky threads.
ok that's the story. (sorry for bad english )
iv'e upgrade my android 4.4 to 5.0.1 and now i got no root , and my bootloader is locked.
i have pictures,apps,sms,whatsapp conversations that i want to keep , and i understaned that if i unlock my bootload so all the data will be removed.
in 4.4 kitkat i used TowelRoot to root my phone and it worked like magic without delete anything.
theres a way i can root my 5.0.1 nexus 4 without lose any data ?
Thanks !
No, there is no way to root without unlocking first.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Free mobile app
No, there is no way to unlock with it wiping. Why not just copy the data off the phone onto some other device and copy back once you are unlocked?
Just use AndroidSDK to backup your device. You can root and then restore your phone to its state just as it was. Even your offline games progresses will keep.
If root is working without problems, you could try to unlock it using BootUnlocker
EDIT: Sorry, I've overseen that you're on 5.0.1 without root. veketash's tip is the best you can do, then.
you can't do root before unlock...
Everyone saying you cant root without unlock is wrong. I have rooted my N4 with towelroot and then unlocked my bootloader without wiping any data at all using BootUnlocker. So you technically can unlock it without wiping data.
EDIT: Nevermind I didnt see he was using 5.0.1 yeah then there is no way of unlocking without wiping data.
veketash said:
Just use AndroidSDK to backup your device. You can root and then restore your phone to its state just as it was. Even your offline games progresses will keep.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well im gonna try this now .. i hope it will work good and all the data will keep in the phone.
thanks..
edit :
well i backup using guide that i found in google
and the backup file size is 196MB.
my phone has like 10GB of data
edit 2:
i tried again do the same thing and now the file is more then 300MB and its keep growing.
Just trying to save some time If I unlock the bootloader and it gets wiped, but every nandroid guide seems to indicate root is a requirement. Is there anything that can be done via the stock recovery in terms of creating a backup of all my data or is copying what visible files there are over USB as good as it gets?
(Not sure it still works on the last versions of Android)
You can root without unlocking the bootloader (see here)
This way you can use any app to backup, copy the backup to the PC, and then proceed to unlock the bootloader. Note that while technically you could live without unlocking the bootloader, you should do it anyways, since it makes much easier to create whole-system-backups and to fix your phone in case something goes wrong.
You could use adb. This guide tells you how: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
theminikiller said:
You could use adb. This guide tells you how: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1420351
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Exactly what I was looking for, thank you!