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I'm sick to the back teeth of my Galaxy S7 Edge.
My battery life has taken a nosedive in the last year, and I hate the 'edge' screen which is more of a nuisance than anything. Performance isn't anything to write home about either, considering the hardware inside it - it lags and jitters occasionally (although it is generally quite fast).
Every time I get a Samsung phone I end up wanting to go back to a vanilla Android one. And I don't want to root this S7E because unlocking the bootloader trips a firmware fuse, permanently breaking your ability to use Android Pay and voiding the warranty,. I wouldn't care if I was keeping the phone but I want to sell it.
So the reason I'm in this forum is to find out whether the Le Pro 3 is going to be a good fit for me. The hardware specs I am happy with. But I need to know if stock Android ROMs are fully 100% stable & able to be used as a daily driver? I've looked at a few of the ROMs in the dev forum and they all seem to mention IR not working and 4K recording not working. If that's all that's wrong then I could live with that. I am well past the stage of wanting to flash my phone every week, I want to 'set and forget'.
So if you could give me your honest opinion of the phone itself with an AOSP ROM that you use and any drawbacks, then I would really appreciate it.
4k is working now. TBH even the leeco's EUI isnt half bad once you flash one of the debloated rom's that you can find on here, and is incredibly smooth/and battery efficient.
Regarding nougat, from my own exp., it's been my daily for a month now. I find it extremely stable, havent had a single crash, suddenr reboot or whataoever. My personal favouritr is Omni, smooth as can be, but have tried Lineage and RR, no complaints there either. I use my phone all the time, charge it over night, and get regularly over 10h SOT thnx to @darkobas, some kernel tweaks, and leeco of course for jamming in 4000mah of battery lol.
I have Lex720 3-4 months, never find single issue with this phone. Roms, I flashed many of them, atm i am on stock 6.0 TARS 23S by Steve Mars I like this one everything works good, good battery life.
But I don't use my phone a lot, no game, everyday I got over 50% juice left can use it for another day. It's comparable to Oneplus3/3t for performance, battery life maybe better. If you don't care about headphone jack it's as good as any phone I think and it's 300$, can't beat it.
Best phone at its price you can get!
Great hardware specs, jack isnt even needed tbh you can get cdla earphones and everything will be good. Especially with dolby+viper you will be amazed.
Only con i find is camera at low light conditions (day light its fine) but thats fixable if leeco updates the software regarding img processing and i believe we will se improvements with EUI Nougat. Also no OIS but it has EIS.
Regarding rom, tora 23s,debloated 20s and now miui that is been worked on by also tora and turbo are great roms.
I dont like CM roms but as far as i have seen in postsk omni rom is great.
Seriously the phone is a beast and if we give it a little more time all roms will be finalized.
Point is, are you going to buy it with the launch of mi6 plus? If i were you i would wait to see the full specs and price.
I am using latest stock 21s with root and underclock. Performance good and battery life is also insane.
testreaper said:
Best phone at its price you can get!
Great hardware specs, jack isnt even needed tbh you can get cdla earphones and everything will be good. Especially with dolby+viper you will be amazed.
Only con i find is camera at low light conditions (day light its fine) but thats fixable if leeco updates the software regarding img processing and i believe we will se improvements with EUI Nougat. Also no OIS but it has EIS.
Regarding rom, tora 23s,debloated 20s and now miui that is been worked on by also tora and turbo are great roms.
I dont like CM roms but as far as i have seen in postsk omni rom is great.
Seriously the phone is a beast and if we give it a little more time all roms will be finalized.
Point is, are you going to buy it with the launch of mi6 plus? If i were you i would wait to see the full specs and price.
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What he said. Also, I use the provided USB-C to 3.5 adapter with my sony earphones, the sound is excellent!
I bought the Lepro after 3 years of Nexus 5 ownership, and while I adore that thing to death and though it was going to be near impossible for me to find a phone who I'd find a worthy replacement, it was riddled with battery issues/wakelocks and crap from day 1. The lepro just blew me away, and still does.
trizex said:
4k is working now. TBH even the leeco's EUI isnt half bad once you flash one of the debloated rom's that you can find on here, and is incredibly smooth/and battery efficient.
Regarding nougat, from my own exp., it's been my daily for a month now. I find it extremely stable, havent had a single crash, suddenr reboot or whataoever. My personal favouritr is Omni, smooth as can be, but have tried Lineage and RR, no complaints there either. I use my phone all the time, charge it over night, and get regularly over 10h SOT thnx to @darkobas, some kernel tweaks, and leeco of course for jamming in 4000mah of battery lol.
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What tweaks did you do?
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What tweaks did you do?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/how-to/advanced-interactive-governor-tweaks-t3476589
OP3T ones work on our phone, same SOC. I used them as a basis to make my own two scripts that I toggle via a QS tile
I've had this phone for a while and everything is great except the camera quality, you will see a huge difference compared to S7 Edge.
Phone is running very stable with LineageOS 13, i use it as my daily driver and i don't have any problems so far.
Not interested in Xiaomi phones. I did consider the Mi5+ (i think) before i got my S7E but when i read about the hoops you have to jump thru to unlock the bootloader then i lost all interest.
testreaper said:
Best phone at its price you can get!
Great hardware specs, jack isnt even needed tbh you can get cdla earphones and everything will be good. Especially with dolby+viper you will be amazed.
Only con i find is camera at low light conditions (day light its fine) but thats fixable if leeco updates the software regarding img processing and i believe we will se improvements with EUI Nougat. Also no OIS but it has EIS.
Regarding rom, tora 23s,debloated 20s and now miui that is been worked on by also tora and turbo are great roms.
I dont like CM roms but as far as i have seen in postsk omni rom is great.
Seriously the phone is a beast and if we give it a little more time all roms will be finalized.
Point is, are you going to buy it with the launch of mi6 plus? If i were you i would wait to see the full specs and price.
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I've read all the replies and I'm still on the fence. Mainly because I'm one of those people who doesn't like buying a phone unless it's brand new, ie right at the start of its life-cycle!
I held off to see what the Le Max 3 would be like when it was announced, but I assume no Snapdragon processor = no dev interest and no ROMs.
You guys are knowledgable about Chinese phones - what else is coming out soon? I would wait for the OnePlus 5, but I've read that they're going with an edge screen (that I'm desperate to get away from). I like the idea of a Snapdragon 835 and 6GB RAM though.
Is there anything else on the horizon that I should be considering?
if you dont need a phone right now then you can wait a couple of months, the axon should be announced soon, also the honor pro 8 is already out
If u want support and great specs just go for mi6, period. The only phones i would buy would be either huawei or xiaomi from chinese brands. Leeco was the only exception because at that time nothing compared to its specs plus i am not a heavy-camera user so it was just the phone i needed.
If i were you right now i woudlnt go for it to be honest. Just my personal thoughts though.
Edit; If i was given again the opportunity to buy out of all 821sd phones i would still go LP3. I am not dissapointed at all. But right now i dont think its worth it with the launch of 835. Although the diffence is not great its better to have the latest phone.
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If u want support and great specs just go for mi6, period. The only phones i would buy would be either huawei or xiaomi from chinese brands. Leeco was the only exception because at that time nothing compared to its specs plus i am not a heavy-camera user so it was just the phone i needed.
If i were you right now i woudlnt go for it to be honest. Just my personal thoughts though.
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For Xiaomi phones no development, for me right now the best buy is Oneplus 3t
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I'm sick to the back teeth of my Galaxy S7 Edge.
My battery life has taken a nosedive in the last year, and I hate the 'edge' screen which is more of a nuisance than anything. Performance isn't anything to write home about either, considering the hardware inside it - it lags and jitters occasionally (although it is generally quite fast).
Every time I get a Samsung phone I end up wanting to go back to a vanilla Android one. And I don't want to root this S7E because unlocking the bootloader trips a firmware fuse, permanently breaking your ability to use Android Pay and voiding the warranty,. I wouldn't care if I was keeping the phone but I want to sell it.
So the reason I'm in this forum is to find out whether the Le Pro 3 is going to be a good fit for me. The hardware specs I am happy with. But I need to know if stock Android ROMs are fully 100% stable & able to be used as a daily driver? I've looked at a few of the ROMs in the dev forum and they all seem to mention IR not working and 4K recording not working. If that's all that's wrong then I could live with that. I am well past the stage of wanting to flash my phone every week, I want to 'set and forget'.
So if you could give me your honest opinion of the phone itself with an AOSP ROM that you use and any drawbacks, then I would really appreciate it.
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I hope I'm not late to this thread. Please do not buy this phone. There is no UNBRICKING support for this device whatsoever.
Please look around in this matter. There are about 5 threads of sudden deaths of this phone on Leeco.re, 3 more threads of sudden death of this device on leeco official forum where they will make u a bouncing ball and about 4 or 5 bricked threads over here on xda. This device is highly unreliable and shady after-sale support.
Until you live in a country where leeco officially retails (like india, HK, china) please refrain from buying this phone. I really hope you do not end up into a trashcan like I did when I bought Le Pro 3 without my ground work. I loved the phone until it lasted.
Your best bet is to get One Plus 3T which despite its expensiveness, has extended AOSP support and genuinely amazing community so far.
Hey folks:
I know about Lecco b/c I got my mom one and it seems like really good bang for buck (she has a Le Max 2).
as far as i can tell there's no more warranty support; so what's the point of paying the premium for a new device? so I was thinking of picking up a used le pro 3 (ideally 64gb) b/c prices seem to be pretty good (can get one ideally for $130 USD or so shipped).
i've flashed phones before including my mom's lecco le max 2 without issue. would likely put lineage os on it.
problems i can see with this plan:
1) I was reading a lot on this forum and it seems like there are a lot of problems with charging and burning out the charging port. from what i can tell though as long as i don't use the leeco charger or cables i'd be fine. correct?
1.5) i've seen some listings that say something like "Works well, though 50% of the time will not charge until you restart the phone plugged in. Have read that it could be fixed by rooting, but I'm running stock. Some scratches on the front, back and edges, as well as a small dent on the back." ... would this be a red flag to avoid? or were they just using the wrong charger/cable?
2) i'd ideally be looking for a dual sim model (720 only i believe). any advantage to 720 over 727 or vice versa? as i understand, sim2 is data only.
3) do you like your le pro 3? would you recommend buying one?
4) anywhere besides ebay/swappa i should be looking?
5) how much longer will the le pro 3 be supported on lineage os? looks like there are builds every couple weeks for v15.1 (nightly builds)
6) is lineage os the best rom for this phone if i just want reliable service/use minimal tweaking? or something else? i'm running a nightly from 14.1 on my samsung s5 and seem to like it pretty well
I have an X727 but bought it new at the time, at no point do I regret buying this smartphone. For the sake of the benefit he offers I have nothing to complain about.
Enviado de meu LEX727 usando o Tapatalk
Yeah it's pretty weird at first i was using the stock ROM and it wouldn't charge unless i reboot the phone n then i switch to lineage os 16.0 and it would charge extremely slow then i installed nitro os still was charging slowly about 500 mah and i was having random reboots with the stock kernel so i installed bs 4.5 and now my phone charge like new again so it was a weird experience
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Hey folks:
I know about Lecco b/c I got my mom one and it seems like really good bang for buck (she has a Le Max 2).
as far as i can tell there's no more warranty support; so what's the point of paying the premium for a new device? so I was thinking of picking up a used le pro 3 (ideally 64gb) b/c prices seem to be pretty good (can get one ideally for $130 USD or so shipped).
i've flashed phones before including my mom's lecco le max 2 without issue. would likely put lineage os on it.
problems i can see with this plan:
1) I was reading a lot on this forum and it seems like there are a lot of problems with charging and burning out the charging port. from what i can tell though as long as i don't use the leeco charger or cables i'd be fine. correct?
1.5) i've seen some listings that say something like "Works well, though 50% of the time will not charge until you restart the phone plugged in. Have read that it could be fixed by rooting, but I'm running stock. Some scratches on the front, back and edges, as well as a small dent on the back." ... would this be a red flag to avoid? or were they just using the wrong charger/cable?
2) i'd ideally be looking for a dual sim model (720 only i believe). any advantage to 720 over 727 or vice versa? as i understand, sim2 is data only.
3) do you like your le pro 3? would you recommend buying one?
4) anywhere besides ebay/swappa i should be looking?
5) how much longer will the le pro 3 be supported on lineage os? looks like there are builds every couple weeks for v15.1 (nightly builds)
6) is lineage os the best rom for this phone if i just want reliable service/use minimal tweaking? or something else? i'm running a nightly from 14.1 on my samsung s5 and seem to like it pretty well
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1. Yes you are right, do not use leeco charger/cable if You want your Pro3 to serve you well.
2. If you really use dual sim on regular basis then go for x720 though they both have almost same config. if i'd want to purchase a leeco device now a day it'd be x950(more storage n Dual cam)
3. Yes i like it very much and i did recommend it to my frnds/family.
4. M frm india so no experience of both, i'd suggest you to buy it from aliexpress (saw brandnew x720 at $148)
5. Support is depend on dev's here but i think it can handle android Q pretty well.
6. If you are not much into tweaking lineage and PE are the one you should go for. Hope i helped you in making decision.
These phones are great. It seems that you already know what to look out for. There are additional things you can do to improve the lifespan. I highly recommend Leeco's phones they are awesome. The issue is that parts have recently skyrocketed in price, ( due to their bankruptcy, and the fact that Leeco is just barely still in business) If you buy it you should be able to get at least 2 years of usage.
Tips for Longevity
1. Keep the phone charged between 20% to 80%,
2. Don't charge overnight ( will shorten lifespan see
3. Stay away from brand new Roms, that popup, until there are established and well-reviewed by the community.
4. Don't overclock to processor, its powerful enough as it is. ( trust me on this one, my phone has core damage)
4. Buy a good quality case and stay away from the thin ones. I have a black version of this these
Finally, although the phone is great and extremely powerful. ( But, its from 2016)
If you look you can find other phones, the same age and with the exact same specs, such as ZTE, Pixel, Oneplus etc. for around $200-$250
There are some great 2018 phones that are similarly priced
such as
Xiaomi Redmi 6
Xiaomi A2
Xiaomi Redmi Note 6 Pro
Moto X
To add to tsongming's post, I had a Le Max 2 for about 2 years but got a Redmi Note 5 Pro (Essentially the 6 without a notch) because on paper the performance was on par and battery upgrad would be amazing. However while the battery lived up to my expectations the performance did not. The SD820/821 single threaded performance is far better than what you get out of the SD636 and in day to day use it felt sluggish in comparison. Even underclocked, the SD820 still felt far smoother than my Redmi and I'd bet with such tweaks and the bigger battery of the Le Pro 3 you'd have a nicer user experience overall. Camera is probably better on the phones tsongming mentioned though... My Le Max 2's autofocus especially in video was pretty bad.
Hi,
i'am looking forward to buy me a new smartphone. Is the A2 a good choice especialy when i want to have good LOS support?
I could get it for about 170 Euro in germany (4/64GB)
Thanks
Don't go for it
tobben said:
Hi,
i'am looking forward to buy me a new smartphone. Is the A2 a good choice especialy when i want to have good LOS support?
I could get it for about 170 Euro in germany (4/64GB)
Thanks
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Not fot LOS now but u get install PE or etc. now
Also i guess it will get LOS support later
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Don't go for it
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What else can you suggest?
I'm using the mi a2 for a month now, and I love it, it's fast, the bugs are minor (and it was fixed for me in the january update) so there is no reason to not buy it.
I recommend it!
tobben said:
Hi,
i'am looking forward to buy me a new smartphone. Is the A2 a good choice especialy when i want to have good LOS support?
I could get it for about 170 Euro in germany (4/64GB)
Thanks
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For me, it's worth it, although some user reported some issues but mine is good so far, almost 4 months now..
About LOS, A2 still doesn't have official build or official support yet, maybe soon.. But A2 already got official Pixel Experience rom which is better than stock in my opinion.. You can try other rom like Havoc or Pixys, if you want more customization
And I think you should wait a bit more for Redmi Note 7, it's a bit better than A2, based on the spec sheet
https://m.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_redmi_note_7-9513.php
Thanks. I dont want to wait - i need a new phone now. Redmi 7 global is not aviable yet and when its aviable community roms will also take time.
What is with security level in the a2 - is it possible for me to use the tan generator app from my bank ... n ooted phones the app dont starts ....
I am baffled 2irh the idiotic replies here. Nothing to back them up just don't go for it and put.
I change my phone's about 2 times a year and I love the latest Galaxy phone's as of the s7 and s8 with the latter being my favorite phone of all time, but I also like to use budget phone's of time to time to see how they compare. I have used one plus one, OnePlus 3, xiaomi mi a1 mi a2 some Huawei mate series the max series etc. And let me tell you that this phone is equals in terms of quality to most of the phone's I have used sometimes it even exceeds my expectations.
The phone one flaw is the camera, BUT if you are not a camera head you won't notice the difference that much in your day to day casual photos. Now I do notice it but I also use DSLR and come off a expensive phone with amazing camera, but even in my case I don't mind it it is not bad it is ... Just meh or ok.
The software is amazing, it is not perfect as montly security updates slowly become less and less with time, but it is Android ... What can you expect. Yet I have rearlt expiriqnced any bugs or problems with my xiaomi mi a1 or mi a2.
Build quality is equals with all yestaryear high end smartphones (I am saying yestaryear because it is a metal phone not a glass phone). To be fair there is zero difference with a 1000 USD USD phone at all.
These phones are amazing. I don't understand how ppl can sit here and complain about anything about these phones. And when you add in the price... Pffff. Best bang for buck.
I'd recommend to get the 6GB ram version phone for longer future proof if you like to keep your phone snappy for longer and/or to keep your phone longer in general.
Go foe it mate
tobben said:
Hi,
i'am looking forward to buy me a new smartphone. Is the A2 a good choice especialy when i want to have good LOS support?
I could get it for about 170 Euro in germany (4/64GB)
Thanks
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Yeah get it, it won't disappoint you
Hello
No worries on my side with this phone
tldr: if you plan for custom roms get a redmi or poco f1. mi a2 is meant to be used stock.
it's biggest problem for banking apps is the lack of nfc.
with mi a2 you pay extra for android one (included in the phone price). if you dont want the official support(stock) then get a phone that doesnt include this.
if you want a better android one go for a nokia
Using this phone for 4-5 months and it's been pretty good. However one downside I would say is the battery. If you're a heavy user it will be pretty tough to make it to a day without charging (especially gaming). Otherwise no issues.
AB_98 said:
Using this phone for 4-5 months and it's been pretty good. However one downside I would say is the battery. If you're a heavy user it will be pretty tough to make it to a day without charging (especially gaming). Otherwise no issues.
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I second that. Battery for me has been a killer with light use of 3 days no charge and heavy use a day with zero issues. Optimisation is key but you can easily get 5+ sot easy.
PS: I do not game on my phone I work on it and with it. So that might be something I cannot comment on.
I can recommend this for the price if you like android one. If you can pay more pick a pocophone (it's day and night)
As almost everyone has said, it is a good phone, specially for the price. Coming from a Nexus 6P I was happily surprised by the performance, I can play quite a few GameCube games on Dolphin and games like Tekken, FIFA, Asphalt 9 and Horizon Chase run really well. I haven't tested Fortnite nor PUBG, cause those are not my type of games, but I've seen videos where those run fine. The only downsides are the battery (could be bigger, but it can last a day with moderate use) and the lack of Camera2Api support out of the box. If you value Android One, this is a great phone, you could check some Nokia phones but those tend to be a bit more expensive. If you don't care about MIUI, you can get a Redmi Note 5 Pro or 6 Pro, or the Mi 8 Lite. Those have similar specs, bigger batteries and might be cheaper or the same price.
It's awesome phone for that price ... Especially if you flash some custom rom and root ...
I'm not thrilled. using it for a few months now. general speed is ok. unfortunately bug fixes (including maxed out CPUs) and updates are not xiaomi's priority. you get what you pay for i guess. (even though the hardware is ok for that price)
also: hands off Nokia of you ask me. check out the anger in their Nokia 8 forum for example. they are treating their customers worse than any other company.
Recently my current phone (Leeco LeTv Max 2) died on me, therefore, I am currently looking looking for a new phone, and after searching online for a good Android phone, I found that brand name phones like Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus, Google Pixel 3, and Huawei P30 Pro are expensive and the only phones that meet my budget are OnePlus 6T and Xiaomi Mi 9, the problem with OnePlus 6T that its camera is not that good as Xiaomi Mi 9, but when I search for the best Android phones online I found that OnePlus 6T is one of at leas the best 5 phones while Xiaomi Mi 9 is not even there, maybe it is new and it is not reviewed for most of rating website, so would you please recommend one for me in you know these phone, I have to buy one ASAP, thanks in advance.
Personally I'd say go for Mi 9 just an all round better device or even wait for OP7 at this point OP6T is not worth it.
Mi 9 Has SD855 More Efficient, Better Display (HDR10 Certification), Camera Sensors/Software, Better Speaker, 20w Wireless Charging, 27w Fast Charging.
But if you have a chance try both devices and see which suits you the most.
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Recently my current phone (Leeco LeTv Max 2) died on me, therefore, I am currently looking looking for a new phone, and after searching online for a good Android phone, I found that brand name phones like Samsung Galaxy S10 Plus, Google Pixel 3, and Huawei P30 Pro are expensive and the only phones that meet my budget are OnePlus 6T and Xiaomi Mi 9, the problem with OnePlus 6T that its camera is not that good as Xiaomi Mi 9, but when I search for the best Android phones online I found that OnePlus 6T is one of at leas the best 5 phones while Xiaomi Mi 9 is not even there, maybe it is new and it is not reviewed for most of rating website, so would you please recommend one for me in you know these phone, I have to buy one ASAP, thanks in advance.
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As far as specs go, I'd say the Xiaomi MI 9 is better. Does it matter buying new or used? You can get barely used 6T for 300-400 now. 7T will be out in a few months. I think the MI 9 is $600 or so. I was in the same position didn't want to spend a lot. So I picked up a 6T and a MI 8. MI 8 should arrive tomorrow. I'm going to compare the two for a daily. I have a brand new P20 PRO which I think is better than both that I need to get rid of. If you need now right now and cant wait then MI 9. If you can wait I say 7T. Or find a cheaper used 6T or MI 8 and wait for the 7T to compare to the MI 9.
I was thinking either to go to MI 9 (which I like a lot) or wait for the 7T, then I decided to wait, but now the 7T is released and the price is high, then suddenly while I was searching for a deal in our local online shopping site, I found a new Google Pixel 3 XL with only 700 CAD, which I found I deal that couldn't be rejected, so I bought it and so far I am happy, but my heart is still with the MI 9 which I think if will buy another phone in the future it would be it.
Get the Mi 9, it has better camera, better SOC, better GPS, faster charging, wireless charging, etc. The only cons are MIUI (depends on your taste), smaller battery, and slightly slower FP.
I'm starting to regret my OP 6T purchase, i got this phone 2 months ago. Now I can get a Mi 9 for $150 cheaper.
Op7
Does the Mi work in Verizon? Not sure where you are located....I really need to get away from them, VZW sucks.
I'm pretty impressed with the Mi phone and specs.
If xiaomi mi9, only 12 GB version (that might worth because of later-coming custom roms), 6 Gb will be a pain to use in some years. I had a xiaomi phone and I loved it because of the good hardware and the great developers of xda who made amazing roms and tweaks for my device, but it was not even a week old when I rooted and changed miui to stock android. When it comes to xiaomi, os is the weakest point, so even with the newer hardware mi9 performs on the same level as oneplus 6t just because op has a great software. You see the difference of chipsets when you are rendering videos, but on daily usage and gaming they are on the same level.
Mi9 is good, but if you want to buy a phone for longer time, oneplus is more future-proof than xiaomi.
One more pro thing for oneplus compared to mi9: battery life. 6t has much better SOT than mi9 or even op7 pro (90hz, max brightness -> disappointing battery life).
Mi9 for the price, for the harware. Many users love Miui.
6T for hardware, second hand price is great, but most important os & soft updates.
7 pro. awesome phone. Good hardware & software. Expensive. And of course, better screen = uses more baterry.
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If xiaomi mi9, only 12 GB version (that might worth because of later-coming custom roms), 6 Gb will be a pain to use in some years. I had a xiaomi phone and I loved it because of the good hardware and the great developers of xda who made amazing roms and tweaks for my device, but it was not even a week old when I rooted and changed miui to stock android. When it comes to xiaomi, os is the weakest point, so even with the newer hardware mi9 performs on the same level as oneplus 6t just because op has a great software. You see the difference of chipsets when you are rendering videos, but on daily usage and gaming they are on the same level.
Mi9 is good, but if you want to buy a phone for longer time, oneplus is more future-proof than xiaomi.
One more pro thing for oneplus compared to mi9: battery life. 6t has much better SOT than mi9 or even op7 pro (90hz, max brightness -> disappointing battery life).
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1. 12 GB worth for future custom roms?
Why are you saying that? This is absolutely not true.
2. Did you ever compare development of a mi 8 vs a oneplus 6t?
Xiaomis mi and the main redmi series are one of the most developed devices on XDA.
They have a big dev community from India.
3. The battery of the 6t is clearly not much better than the mi9.
Maybe you can show some adequate test results for comparison to proof that.
They are equal when it comes to battery life.
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1. 12 GB worth for future custom roms?
Why are you saying that? This is absolutely not true.
2. Did you ever compare development of a mi 8 vs a oneplus 6t?
Xiaomis mi and the main redmi series are one of the most developed devices on XDA.
They have a big dev community from India.
3. The battery of the 6t is clearly not much better than the mi9.
Maybe you can show some adequate test results for comparison to proof that.
They are equal when it comes to battery life.
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Who knows what future android versions will need? Apps and android are growing, they want more space, more ram, and so on, and I am not thinking in one-two year term, rather 4-5 and be honest: noone want their great flagship to be a laggy piece of crap 3-4 years later. Most people buy flagships because they are designed to be future-proof. 12 GB will guarantee fluid multitasking for years and you don't have to worry about anything. 6 GBs is only enough if you want to upgrade in 1-2 years and if you are paying monthly for the device yes this is an option, but I am not one of those. I just said if I woulf buy a mi9, which version would I choose (and if we see that even this is cheaper than OP, than yes this is an option). Why didn't I choose that? Software and battery.
I said also that I had a xiaomi phone and I know that this brand (not only mi, also redmi series) has the most developed topics in xda (that is why I used my redmi for 3 years because the devs ported great roms and on the forums even noobs like me found actual support) and to be honest migrating to oneplus forums full of crying was a huge disappointment after that. But facts are facts, Mi9 has a smaller battery with not-so-well optimized ROM (3300 mAh is not more, not less and MIUI is a heavy os), result: it will not last as long as the 6t and I am one of those who want their phone to last till the end of the day even with heavy usage.
I did not say one is better than the other, because everyone has their personal preferences what decides which one fits better for someone. They are on the same level when it comes to performance, I mentioned the differences pro and contra both, so I don't understand why are you complaining. Facts are facts: OP has a bigger battery, a better software, and this software keeps it future-proof in my eyes. Mi9 has newer hardware, wireless charging and a good developer community. It depends on people what they choose.
I tell you what was my problem with xiaomi and why I won't buy that brand again: stock software updates. When I see that even OP3 gets android Pie from the company, and xiaomi cannot upgrade even their last year midrange phones' android version (even if the hardware would be fully capable), that is disappointing.
I am talking about this: https://www.theandroidsoul.com/xiaomi-android-9-pie-update/
And this: https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-redmi-6-6a-s2-y2-android-pie-cancelled/
Mi series are on different level, but scroll down to redmi series. Most of "not eligible" phones have the capable hardware if not all of them. Mine is not even on the list, it was released with MM and cancelled at MM (!!).
Two years later Mi9 owners will know that, but maybe that is why they are so well supported on XDA. I came to custom roms because of xiaomi, and I started to love these forums because of xiaomi.
But I want what normal people want: when I buy a phone, I want real software support from the company, and I want every single component of the software working in my country. Miui cannot give me that (although I had global version), most of the features were useless bloatware in my area. Different people in different countries will have different experiences. I just told you mine. Maybe I want too much. Sorry for that.
Sophia92 said:
Who knows what future android versions will need? Apps and android are growing, they want more space, more ram, and so on, and I am not thinking in one-two year term, rather 4-5 and be honest: noone want their great flagship to be a laggy piece of crap 3-4 years later. Most people buy flagships because they are designed to be future-proof. 12 GB will guarantee fluid multitasking for years and you don't have to worry about anything. 6 GBs is only enough if you want to upgrade in 1-2 years and if you are paying monthly for the device yes this is an option, but I am not one of those. I just said if I woulf buy a mi9, which version would I choose (and if we see that even this is cheaper than OP, than yes this is an option). Why didn't I choose that? Software and battery.
I said also that I had a xiaomi phone and I know that this brand (not only mi, also redmi series) has the most developed topics in xda (that is why I used my redmi for 3 years because the devs ported great roms and on the forums even noobs like me found actual support) and to be honest migrating to oneplus forums full of crying was a huge disappointment after that. But facts are facts, Mi9 has a smaller battery with not-so-well optimized ROM (3300 mAh is not more, not less and MIUI is a heavy os), result: it will not last as long as the 6t and I am one of those who want their phone to last till the end of the day even with heavy usage.
I did not say one is better than the other, because everyone has their personal preferences what decides which one fits better for someone. They are on the same level when it comes to performance, I mentioned the differences pro and contra both, so I don't understand why are you complaining. Facts are facts: OP has a bigger battery, a better software, and this software keeps it future-proof in my eyes. Mi9 has newer hardware, wireless charging and a good developer community. It depends on people what they choose.
I tell you what was my problem with xiaomi and why I won't buy that brand again: stock software updates. When I see that even OP3 gets android Pie from the company, and xiaomi cannot upgrade even their last year midrange phones' android version (even if the hardware would be fully capable), that is disappointing.
I am talking about this: https://www.theandroidsoul.com/xiaomi-android-9-pie-update/
And this: https://www.xda-developers.com/xiaomi-redmi-6-6a-s2-y2-android-pie-cancelled/
Mi series are on different level, but scroll down to redmi series. Most of "not eligible" phones have the capable hardware if not all of them. Mine is not even on the list, it was released with MM and cancelled at MM (!!).
Two years later Mi9 owners will know that, but maybe that is why they are so well supported on XDA. I came to custom roms because of xiaomi, and I started to love these forums because of xiaomi.
But I want what normal people want: when I buy a phone, I want real software support from the company, and I want every single component of the software working in my country. Miui cannot give me that (although I had global version), most of the features were useless bloatware in my area. Different people in different countries will have different experiences. I just told you mine. Maybe I want too much. Sorry for that.
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I asked you for a solid proof (but please no useless youtube noob video or something) that 6T's battery is lasting much longer. If you tell me something about battery sizes, then I can clearly say, that you don't understand how a phone is working.
Even when it comes to the RAM thing, with more is better, etc. Your phone won't get more 'laggy' just because you have 4 or 6 GB RAM nowadays. This won't change in 3-4 years either, if you have 6 or 12 GB RAM. You can have 12 GB RAM today and your phone will not be able to hold all apps in the RAM, if the RAM management and the application is not optimized.
I did not say anything against the longtime support by the company, but if he is willing to use custom ROMs (at least he is already here on XDA) the support with newest android updates won't be much different, especially when it comes to flagship devices.
Finally I did not argue against your recommendation. That is your personal thing.
I had a problem with your arguments.
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I asked you for a solid proof (but please no useless youtube noob video or something) that 6T's battery is lasting much longer. If you tell me something about battery sizes, then I can clearly say, that you don't understand how a phone is working.
Even when it comes to the RAM thing, with more is better, etc. Your phone won't get more 'laggy' just because you have 4 or 6 GB RAM nowadays. This won't change in 3-4 years either, if you have 6 or 12 GB RAM. You can have 12 GB RAM today and your phone will not be able to hold all apps in the RAM, if the RAM management and the application is not optimized.
I did not say anything against the longtime support by the company, but if he is willing to use custom ROMs (at least he is already here on XDA) the support with newest android updates won't be much different, especially when it comes to flagship devices.
Finally I did not argue against your recommendation. That is your personal thing.
I had a problem with your arguments.
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Ok, so I turn the question: can you give me a solid proof that I am wrong and the solid numbers are lying? I used miui, I know that the standby tim is great but what about actually using the phone? That one just melts away.
About the ram thing: check the ram usage on your device. On mine it is averagely more than 4 gbs, if there is less than one gb free ram on a 6 gbs phone it becomes laggy because it deaperately wants to free some space while you just want to use your phone. Also that is my 10 years experience in Android phones.
About the support difference: I just told you above, read again.
Just happened to see this thread and realize it's a bit old now but anyways...
I have a OnePlus 6 currently, long story short several weeks ago the screen shattered and I needed a new phone. Thought about just fixing the 6 but decided to pick up the global mi 9 as spec wise and cost it was a great deal. Fast forward>>>> the mi 9 is currently on swappa and I'm waiting for my oneplus 6t, using a shattered 6. After waiting 360 hours to unlock the bootloader and get root so I could actually comfortably use the phone (not getting into a debate on privacy, I didn't care for all the intrusive crap on the mi 9) it was a let down but the final straw was really my fault for not really checking what lte bands TMobile was using around me, but besides that I, personally couldn't get adjusted to MIUI as it's anything but intuitive. The cameras were not really that great, the speed difference even between my 6 wasn't really noticable and I just wanted out. I thought about waiting for the Asus Zenfone 6 but I couldn't, not with the mi 9. I'll make due with the older 6t until I decide to upgrade again. From software, actual usage of the phone, weight, and tho it's still fairly new, lack of any development (I'm pretty sure that will change shortly) the mi 9 was not for me.
I would take op7 even it has worse camera. I cant work with miui
The "budget model" OP7 will be released soon.
In my opinion a perfect choice since OP7 iron out the few flaws of OP6t: better camera, stereo speakers and also benefit from OP7Pro: fastest CPU, 3.1 storage, better fingerprint sensor, etc.
Well, you don't get the fancy resolution in OP7pro, but you will get a much better battery life, and even greater battery SOT than OP6t (due to 855 use less energy than 845) and the price is 25% less the pro version.
In my opinion the optimal choice.
Main question in topic title… (new or used devices)
How to unlock the bootloader? What's the best maintained and stable ROM out there?
Or should I avoid it?
The device is now currently selling for ₹9000 (presuming you are in India). If you spend a little more the current gen Redmi and Realme devices offer much better specs.
If you still want this phone I would recommend ResRemix, DOT OS, Havoc OS or Pixel Experience.
Nope no never even not in your nightmare..if you want it to became more than worst nightmare
Depends on how much price you're getting, In some websites it goes under 7k with Bank offers and all that, It's a nice device for that price range. If you're going above 8.5k, then look aside, there are better devices in that segment of 10k or under. Hope that helps
Do not buy any Asus phone in 2019 because they do not have LTE band 41 (Sprint / Vodafone In) and even though the SD636 660 and 865 support LTE A, CA does not work. There are software glitches in M1, fewer on 340.
Yes, with discounts and offers it goes around 7k or so right? can anyone suggest better phone in this range? with 5kmah batt full hd screen 3/4gb ram, sd 636 or better
If you NEED big battery AND you live in a well signal area = yes, otherwise, the phone simply sucks.
If you choose this phone, use Havoc, Dot OS for M1 is slow af, and buggy (Titanium backup doesn't work after a while, lots of gcam also force stop), also not so good battery life, just tried it yesterday. Oh, and it's a clean flash, not dirty.
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Dot OS for M1 is slow af, and buggy (Titanium backup doesn't work after a while, lots of gcam also force stop), also not so good battery life, just tried it yesterday. Oh, and it's a clean flash, not dirty.
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Thanks for the review,
no
go for vivo z1 pro
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Main question in topic title… (new or used devices)
How to unlock the bootloader? What's the best maintained and stable ROM out there?
Or should I avoid it?
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For 8k it's a good Device...with decent development
If you are not particular about custom rom and development, skip this phone. Otherwise it is a good buy.
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go for vivo z1 pro
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you're SERIOUSLY recommending a phone thats almost DOUBLE the price?
are your eyes and brain working normally?
hey OP, ignore everything in this thread, go for a gold plated iPhone with diamond touchscreen.
because screw budgets, right?
I would say it depends upon your needs.
I am a person who prefers small to medium sized phones, but wanted a slightly bigger device for reading and media consumption that could still be operated via single hand. Max Pro M1 fit the bill pretty well.
Its got a nice screen, reasonable specs, lightweight stock UI, nice build quality and is affordable.
I found is the camera to be lacklustre, which can somewhat be improved via Google Camera app.
YMMV.
I got 4gb max pro m1 for 7.6k
And running miui10 benchmark 124000
Is it good buy or what?
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I got 4gb max pro m1 for 7.6k
And running miui10 benchmark 124000
Is it good buy or what?
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For 7.6k its definitely good buy,redmi note 6 pro with same SoC is 11-12k.
I bought the 3/32GB variant for Rs 6,066 after all the Bank Discounts and an exchange. So far, it's proving to be a good purchase. I'm really impressed with the battery life on it. The UI is smooth being stock Android. I've added a 64GB Micro SD card. It works than my brother's Redmi Note 5 Pro. The Front Camera is where it lacks but apart from that it's great.
Bought this phone in February this year for my mother, the price itself in Indonesia is quite a good deal if we consider its mid-class spec.
But... turns out it is a big disappointment. My mom only uses this phone for about 2 months and after that, she doesn't want to use it anymore, even she beg me to have her old Redmi Note 4 back instead of continuing using it (too bad, I already sold her old RN4). She said, this phone is too minimalist, the camera is very bad, no convenient features and the stock UI is simply boring.
So, she handed it back to me and I bought her the Galaxy M20 for a replacement and she is very happy with it. Now, this phone becomes my test phone to play with several custom ROM from our talented dev here in XDA community. Currently, I am using Pixel Experience Plus Edition with Darkonah Kernel. Sometimes, I also use this phone for a hotspot device when I have to travel overseas (i just have to put the local 4G sim card in it), so I can connect my primary phone and laptop while I'm roaming in the city.
However, if you consider buying this phone in 2019, my advice is, just DON'T... Except, you can get it with a very cheap price and forget the stock ROM, it is just BAD.
Did you try flashing the MIUI10 ROM, which makes it exactly like a Xiaomi phone? I come from Mi Max 2, got this phone for 3 main reasons
1)5000mah battery
2)2 sim and sd card
3) multi colored led notification light
I am quite happy with it. However the new Mi9T/k20 pro has AMOLED screen which are quite nice for decent price. Smaller battery and no rgb notification though.
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motherninja said:
Bought this phone in February this year for my mother, the price itself in Indonesia is quite a good deal if we consider its mid-class spec.
But... turns out it is a big disappointment. My mom only uses this phone for about 2 months and after that, she doesn't want to use it anymore, even she beg me to have her old Redmi Note 4 back instead of continuing using it (too bad, I already sold her old RN4). She said, this phone is too minimalist, the camera is very bad, no convenient features and the stock UI is simply boring.
So, she handed it back to me and I bought her the Galaxy M20 for a replacement and she is very happy with it. Now, this phone becomes my test phone to play with several custom ROM from our talented dev here in XDA community. Currently, I am using Pixel Experience Plus Edition with Darkonah Kernel. Sometimes, I also use this phone for a hotspot device when I have to travel overseas (i just have to put the local 4G sim card in it), so I can connect my primary phone and laptop while I'm roaming in the city.
However, if you consider buying this phone in 2019, my advice is, just DON'T... Except, you can get it with a very cheap price and forget the stock ROM, it is just BAD.
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Did you try flashing the MIUI10 ROM, which makes it exactly like a Xiaomi phone? I come from Mi Max 2, got this phone for 3 main reasons
1)5000mah battery
2)2 sim and sd card
3) multi colored led notification light
I am quite happy with it. However the new Mi9T/k20 pro has AMOLED screen which are quite nice for decent price. Smaller battery and no rgb notification though
Iam planning to tell my friend to buy one from his trip to India. There is nothing even half good i can buy for that price ( around 80 Pound) here in the UK . Dear Indian friends do you have any other phones to suggest for that budget ?
@rkoforever90 Hi,
Only lack luster thing in this phone is- its camera performance. Ignore the trolls here, they might be just some teens, accustomed to Chinese vendors.
Slow battery charge is intentionaly done by Asus to keep its massive battery healthy.
Very few devices comes with sd636 in your budget.
I'll recommend moto one device if you want to compensate for camera and performance.
Skip realme, oppo, Mi etc. (You know why )
Htc u12+ and Nokias in budget but lacks battery power. Also upcoming month is festive month in India so may be some good device launch will follow.
Overall for an elderly I think its good device with good resolution and screen quality. With no lags. Stock rom is not as bad as this forum made it look like.