As the title states, my SD currently runs an EXT4 partition, however after reading around on these forums not all roms support EXT4 yet and most want EXT3 in order to work properly.. Upgrading EXT is easy im using RA Recovery Image, however how do you go from an EXT4 back to an EXT3?
I would think you'd have to repartition the card, well thats how I went about it.
It's tricky. usually, once you upgrade to ext4 you can't go back to ext3 without repartitioning.. but there's a work around...
you can turn off the ext4 "features" from a ext4 partition and mount it as ext3....
"mount -t ext4 /dev/yourpartition /mnt"
that would be the basic command. Needs to be rewritten for your particular situation.
You're better off just repartitioning lol.
There seems to be a lot of confusion or pr people aren't being clear enough. At the moment there's one build found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65193930&postcount=1302 that has F2FS as an option to change to. But I recall there being a problem with the /cache partition too small for F2FS to work, and if you look into F2FS's internal operation a bit, if /cache isn't F2FS then it's pointless.
So I'm asking, is there any TWRP build that supports formatting system/cache/data partitions as F2FS? Is there a way to fix whatever the problem is with /cache unable to be formatted to F2FS? The error I get when I try to format with F2FS is this:
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mkfs.f2fs -t 0 /dev/block/mmcblk0p38 process ended with error: 255
Unable to WIpe Cache
Error changing file system.
Do we need ROM/kernel makers to specifically make their projects with F2FS support? What is the technical issue with getting /cache formatted as F2FS?
bobbarker2 said:
There seems to be a lot of confusion or pr people aren't being clear enough. At the moment there's one build found here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=65193930&postcount=1302 that has F2FS as an option to change to. But I recall there being a problem with the /cache partition too small for F2FS to work, and if you look into F2FS's internal operation a bit, if /cache isn't F2FS then it's pointless.
So I'm asking, is there any TWRP build that supports formatting system/cache/data partitions as F2FS? Is there a way to fix whatever the problem is with /cache unable to be formatted to F2FS? The error I get when I try to format with F2FS is this:
Code:
mkfs.f2fs -t 0 /dev/block/mmcblk0p38 process ended with error: 255
Unable to WIpe Cache
Error changing file system.
Do we need ROM/kernel makers to specifically make their projects with F2FS support? What is the technical issue with getting /cache formatted as F2FS?
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Old post, but F2FS requires a minimum of 100 MB to be used on a drive. Ours is 99 MB.
I was wondering that with TWRP 3.0, it is possible to convert the file system to f2fs. The performance in f2fs seems to be far greater when compared to ext4. Has anyone tried converting the x play to f2fs? If so, what all ROMs are compatible with it?
varounmirchi said:
I was wondering that with TWRP 3.0, it is possible to convert the file system to f2fs. The performance in f2fs seems to be far greater when compared to ext4. Has anyone tried converting the x play to f2fs? If so, what all ROMs are compatible with it?
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I don't think it's possible to convert a filesystem to another, you'll probably need to format your partition in f2fs, so make a backup first.
Also, note that f2fs is designed to take advantage of nand-based storage. Have a look at http://www.xda-developers.com/f2fs-put-to-the-test-against-ext4/
claudineimatos said:
I don't think it's possible to convert a filesystem to another, you'll probably need to format your partition in f2fs, so make a backup first.
Also, note that f2fs is designed to take advantage of nand-based storage. Have a look at http://www.xda-developers.com/f2fs-put-to-the-test-against-ext4/
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As far as I know, you do need to format in order to convert. I don't think any kind of conversion tool exists at this point, or may ever exist. I remember reading that there's only really a benefit to making the data partition f2fs (and perhaps the cache as well? I'm pretty tired atm so I can't confirm that.) If so, you should be able to format Data without reinstalling the ROM. Correct me if I'm mistaken!
Be aware that while f2fs is definitely faster, filesystems are relatively simple things that wind themselves into complex knots when put into action. So, despite f2fs being optimized for NAND, it hasn't been thoroughly tested the way EXT4 and others have. You could always run into some issues with data loss or other confusing bugs. Because of this, it's probably also safer to leave the System partition as EXT4, if you even can/would want to make it f2fs.
I'd also like to know if anyone has gotten f2fs working on the Moto X Play, @squid2 has f2fs driver updates listed in the changelog for his kernel, although it may also take support in the ROM to fully implement. Please let us know if you get it running! The performance is significantly faster, and it's also less wear-and-tear on the memory, if I understand correctly.
JohnHorus said:
As far as I know, you do need to format in order to convert. I don't think any kind of conversion tool exists at this point, or may ever exist. I remember reading that there's only really a benefit to making the data partition f2fs (and perhaps the cache as well? I'm pretty tired atm so I can't confirm that.) If so, you should be able to format Data without reinstalling the ROM. Correct me if I'm mistaken!
Be aware that while f2fs is definitely faster, filesystems are relatively simple things that wind themselves into complex knots when put into action. So, despite f2fs being optimized for NAND, it hasn't been thoroughly tested the way EXT4 and others have. You could always run into some issues with data loss or other confusing bugs. Because of this, it's probably also safer to leave the System partition as EXT4, if you even can/would want to make it f2fs.
I'd also like to know if anyone has gotten f2fs working on the Moto X Play, @squid2 has f2fs driver updates listed in the changelog for his kernel, although it may also take support in the ROM to fully implement. Please let us know if you get it running! The performance is significantly faster, and it's also less wear-and-tear on the memory, if I understand correctly.
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Actually TWRP allows to convert the file system to f2fs (yes by formatting it obviously). Its usually recommended to convert the /data and the /cache partitions for optimum results. I had a Yu Yuphoria before this, and I had converted the file system to f2fs, and the performance was whooping fast.
And I did see that @squid2 has mentioned f2fs support in his kernel (i guess it comes directly from CAF) but I wanted to know which ROMs do support it? So far I don't see "f2fs supported" mentioned in any of the ROMs for our device and thats why I am still on hold.
We're already using f2fs. Even the stock ROM uses f2fs for the userdata partition.
So can we use f2fs with your Kernel and CM13? Data and cache partitions?
squid2 said:
We're already using f2fs. Even the stock ROM uses f2fs for the userdata partition.
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Cache shows up as ext4 in TWRP, for me at least. Would that benefit from switching to f2fs?
Edit: Tried formatting the cache as f2fs, no boots.
F2fs does use a log, but still, it took up 128MB of the cache partition, seems kinda weird unless the partition actually grows to accomodate that. Maybe I did something wrong, idk.
Which partitions should be formatted in f2fs ?
And what difference does f2fs make?
Please explain in simple words.
Thank you.
/data and /cache
Supposedly it's more efficient and faster, although the difference in real-life scenarios is negligible.
epraes said:
/data and /cache
Supposedly it's more efficient and faster, although the difference in real-life scenarios is negligible.
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Why can't we use f2fs on system and internal memory partition?
I'm no expert at this, just a regular user. But my understanding is that f2fs is suited best for read/write filesystems. As /system is a read-only partition, it makes no sense to use f2fs instead of ext4. There may be some technical reasons behind it apart from this that I'm not aware of, though.
As for the internal storage, you can indeed format it with the f2fs filesystem. In fact, it's just a part of the /data partition. If you format /data, you format /data/media and your internal storage becomes f2fs.
That's all I know. Maybe some ROM developers or experts can give you some more insight about it.
After converting ext4 to f2fs there is less memory (27110MB vs 3457MB). Any solution?)