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Root, OTA, Market update

Hi guys, after a 6 months period with HTC Wildfire S, i decided it was time to upgrade my device, so here i am, a newbie Nexus S user.
The first things i did with my new toy were unlocking the bootloader, gaining root permissions and installing CWM.
But i noticed that Market isn't updating, it's stuck to THIS version (i think it's 2.13)
Has this anything to do with root and cwm? Or it's just a matter of time and i'll eventually get the update?
Same thing with firmware: at the moment i'm running 2.3.3: looking for updates, and even using the *#*#checkin#*#* code, provided the same result: no FOTA available. Is this due to the root+cwm or i just need to wait?
I know this has already be discussed in the faq, but i find them quite confusing.
I mean, i know i could do a manual update, but i'd like to know whether if i'll ever receive a fota update or if i've lost this chance after root.
Q: I'm rooted with Clockwork and can't install the OTA! I updated to 2.3.1 and lost root! What gives?
most of the time, official OTAs will not install through custom recoveries because of their tendency to break root or restore things like the stock recovery. Also if you've made any modifications to the system files such as replacing the default Mms.apk(messaging) with the custom Black Mms.apk found in the Themes & Apps section, or deleted any .odex files from the system partition, it will not install. The easiest way to update to 2.3.1 is to flash a custom rom such as one of the custom ROMs or use the 2.3.1 Stock NANDROID backup found in the development section. And yes, 2.3.1 "broke root." To regain it, simply follow the steps in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884499 (All credit goes to the original author(s) of the linked thread!). The aforementioned procedure is only needed on the Stock Nandroid Backup, not any of the custom ROMs.
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Thanks in advance for the answers!

There is no update due to the root, i advice you to manually update your phone to the latest version 4.0.3 using cwm, after that root again. finally you will have rooted ics on your nexus s.

uhm, you say i won't receive updates.
FAQ says most of the time i won't receive them.
THIS thread says i will receive them.
I am confused.

from what I can make sense of, it sounds like you should be getting updates. The FAQ you posted says that if you try to install one of the official OTA updates through CWM, it will fail most of the time.
i don't know how reliable that "checkin" trick is, and it may depend on your carrier as well.
if you've already rooted your device, then i would just flash one of the custom roms, you won't want to go back to the OTA after...

Root/cwm recovery/unlocked boot loader etc has nothing at all to do with your device receiving the ota update notification

albundy2010 said:
Root/cwm recovery/unlocked boot loader etc has nothing at all to do with your device receiving the ota update notification
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Thats correct. It has only to do with the install. (It will fail).. if you dont get the notification for an ota i dont know whats wrong...
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Ok, finally tonight something started to move.
I received a message saying "A software update is available. Reboot the device to begin the installation" or something like that.
I rebooted and a CWM screen appeared, saying that the update could not be installed due to problems with the signature, sorry i can't remember word by word.
So... how can i know what the update was? I tried to browse the root folder in search for a .zip, but with no success. Any clue?

SavageButcher said:
Ok, finally tonight something started to move.
I received a message saying "A software update is available. Reboot the device to begin the installation" or something like that.
I rebooted and a CWM screen appeared, saying that the update could not be installed due to problems with the signature, sorry i can't remember word by word.
So... how can i know what the update was? I tried to browse the root folder in search for a .zip, but with no success. Any clue?
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If you had 2.3.3 the update was probably the 2.3.6 and after that you would have received the 4.0.3 update....anyway from what I remember the version of the ota update is showed in the notification bar...isn't it?!
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SavageButcher said:
Ok, finally tonight something started to move.
I received a message saying "A software update is available. Reboot the device to begin the installation" or something like that.
I rebooted and a CWM screen appeared, saying that the update could not be installed due to problems with the signature, sorry i can't remember word by word.
So... how can i know what the update was? I tried to browse the root folder in search for a .zip, but with no success. Any clue?
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1. I assume it was the a step up from 2.3.3 to a max of 2.3.6 as OTA updates to 4.0.3 are currently on hold due to battery drain issue
2. your OTA install is failing because you have custom recovery (CWM) but the OTA updates require the stock recovery (3e)
if you really really want to install OTA updates, you gonna have to go back to stock recovery (do a nand restore, hope you have one) then flash the OTA updates for your device

[Q] How Do I Prevent OTA 4.3 Update

So my Nexus 7 has downloaded the OTA firmware before I realized that Google was doing a roll-out. The Nexus 7 want me to reboot and do the FW upgrade but I don't want to upgrade the tablet. There does not appear to be a easy way to retain Root, and i'm not interested in teh steps for CFW, etc so it easier for me to stay on v4.2.x. Is there a way to prevent the upgrade? can I delete the downloaded OTA update or something? What is the path to the OTA update files? I would like to know before rebooting as I'm not sure if rebooting will just force the update. I have rooted the tablet but no other hacks such as unlocked boot loader have been performed on the device. I did a web search but did not see a in dept conversation on how to refuse the update once it has been downloaded onto the device

You could try a root keeper app that will retain root after the update. As for preventing the update, I'm not sure how that would work. Should be easy enough to keep root though.
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A RootKeeper does not work with 4.3 due to the way that secuirity is implemented in the new FW. This has been noted in the description of the RootKeeper app on the Play store

The OTA file is in /cache and should be called ab67ca07c4b2e03eca795ada10ff041b77fbb7bf.signed-nakasi-JWR66V-from-JDQ39.ab67ca07.zip (that is, if you're using wifi-only device, otherwise the name will be slightly different)
But in another thread it came up, that at some time the update will spring up again, so you should keep an eye on it
p.s. that should be the update file, but still take this with a grain of salt, i don't have much experience messing with ota updates.

Sound Anarchist said:
The OTA file is in /cache and should be called ab67ca07c4b2e03eca795ada10ff041b77fbb7bf.signed-nakasi-JWR66V-from-JDQ39.ab67ca07.zip (that is, if you're using wifi-only device, otherwise the name will be slightly different)
But in another thread it came up, that at some time the update will spring up again, so you should keep an eye on it
p.s. that should be the update file, but still take this with a grain of salt, i don't have much experience messing with ota updates.
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I checked the cache folder using es explorer and it showed no data files(zip) in that folder. maybe the file was not downloaded yet or was already applied and the device is just waiting for a reboot to consummate the upgrade

Or you could just flash CleanROM and have 4.3 and root.
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u could take a look at this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1998378

Thanks for all of the input. I resolved this issue. I just enabled root in es explorer which showed the hidden OTA zip file in the Cache folder. I renamed the file, but the OS deleted it after the rename so I could not even save a copy of the file. I have since rebooted and the OTA did not re-download (which is a good thing) although I still get an icon in notification indicating that the OTA is ready to install.
I'm just not interested in updating to the latest 4.3 build due to lack of time. I have many Android devices and spending the time to Root and or unlock the boot loader on each device is just taking to much of my time. So I'll just stay on the current build until I have time to tinker again. Thanks again everyone for your input

I clicked the update (stupid I know) and because I was stock 4.2.2, but rooted, got bootloop. I had to use fastboot to update to the stock 4.3, now hunting for root instructions. I post this so folks running anything non-stock don't blindly accept the OTA update or headaches will ensue.

downwiththebanksters said:
I clicked the update (stupid I know) and because I was stock 4.2.2, but rooted, got bootloop. I had to use fastboot to update to the stock 4.3, now hunting for root instructions. I post this so folks running anything non-stock don't blindly accept the OTA update or headaches will ensue.
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It's a shame I saw your warning too late, couldn't resist the OTA update.
Now I'm stuck at logo.
Do I have to use fastboot as well to manually update to 4.3? What instructions did you use?
Thanks.

timnik said:
It's a shame I saw your warning too late, couldn't resist the OTA update.
Now I'm stuck at logo.
Do I have to use fastboot as well to manually update to 4.3? What instructions did you use?
Thanks.
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I wish I had seem this warning earlier too. I blindly accepted the OTA update yesterday thinking "Oh hey Android 4.3! Awesome!" and now I'm running in a whole load of problems and glitchs. I'm also not rooted yet which makes another problem because I can't find anything to root 4.3 yet. Also can't find anything on how to restore back to stock Android 4.2.2. Does anyone know anything about this? Will factory reset do the trick? I have all my stuff backed up.

OTA update message appeared and dissapeared

Hello,
I might be a moron, but 1 hour ago I received the notification of Android 5.0 OTA update on my Nexus 4 running stock Android 4.4.4. I said I might be a moron because due to the lack of space on my 8GB Nexus 4 I decided to make a factory reset before updating to the new OS. I did it, but I have no update notification anymore. My apps are still updating, but it says the system is up to date when I check for updates.
Please help me, can you tell me if the update dissapeared forever or will it reappear? I waited too long for this.
PS: I want the over-the-air update, I don't want to install it manually.

It will reappear, but as the update rolls out step by step the devices are randomly chosen and you'll have to wait some more time now

mihahn said:
It will reappear, but as the update rolls out step by step the devices are randomly chosen and you'll have to wait some more time now
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Oh, I guess I'll have to facepalm myself for a week or maybe more.

veketash said:
Oh, I guess I'll have to facepalm myself for a week or maybe more.
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But why don't you flash the ota zip in the recovery? There's no difference if you wait for the ota or if you flash it in the stock recovery as it's the same package

mihahn said:
But why don't you flash the ota zip in the recovery? There's no difference if you wait for the ota or if you flash it in the stock recovery as it's the same package
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Well...will I still receive updates like I would if I install it in ota-mode? I mean, for example, if I flash the OTA zip and after a month the Android 5.1 is released, will the update appear like 5.0 appeared this evening, or I'll have to flash that manually too? I have not many aknowledge about this.

veketash said:
Well...will I still receive updates like I would if I install it in ota-mode? I mean, for example, if I flash the OTA zip and after a month the Android 5.1 is released, will the update appear like 5.0 appeared this evening, or I'll have to flash that manually too? I have not many aknowledge about this.
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Yes, later updates will still show up on your phone
There are some guides about it. You simply download the ota zip (there are some threads with the link to download the file from Google's servers) and then you sideload it using adb on your PC. You shouldn't have any issues with it

Sideload and ota are the same. The only difference is that your sending the file to the phone through a computer (manually) instead of downloading on the device itself (automatically)

11..0.4.4 IN11AA

Can someone please paste a link to the 11.0.4.4 global installation file. My Oneplus8 pro is rooted and as such I cannot download it from system updates. I tried to fastboot an unpatched boot but I couldn't get WiFi to turn on. Accordingly, I'd like an alternate download option for 11.0.4.4 global.

Being rooted should not prevent the update. Otherwise download "oxygen updater" from the play store.

shorty1993 said:
Being rooted should not prevent the update. Otherwise download "oxygen updater" from the play store.
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In my experience being rooted does prevent updates especially if you've flashed the patched boot image to both slots. In the past I've had his name issue. I got the update to stick when I fastboot flash Boot the original stock boot Image.

Have not seen the full 11.0.4.4 global zip anywhere yet....

I uninstalled Magisk, took the update and then reinstalled Magisk before rebooting. Seems to have worked OK.

PieceKeepr said:
I uninstalled Magisk, took the update and then reinstalled Magisk before rebooting. Seems to have worked OK.
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Tried that. No joy.

State.of.mind said:
In my experience being rooted does prevent updates especially if you've flashed the patched boot image to both slots. In the past I've had his name issue. I got the update to stick when I fastboot flash Boot the original stock boot Image.
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I tried that, but when I did I couldn't get wifi enabled. I tried to download on cellular but it repeatedly failed. I rarely use cellular and I only have 2gb/mo. (If it were stable I'd be fine.)

shorty1993 said:
Being rooted should not prevent the update. Otherwise download "oxygen updater" from the play store.
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Oxy updated still has 2 2 not 4.4

PieceKeepr said:
I uninstalled Magisk, took the update and then reinstalled Magisk before rebooting. Seems to have worked OK.
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No joy.

I think I'll just live with 2.2 until oxy updated has 4.4. From what I've read 4.4 doesn't really do much. OnePlus sucks anymore.
PS I was finally able to download 2.2 again and I install it (via system update) which got rid of root so I downloaded and installed 4.4. Haven't rooted it yet.

almahix said:
PS I was finally able to download 2.2 again and I install it (via system update) which got rid of root so I downloaded and installed 4.4. Haven't rooted it yet.
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Please post here if magisk worked on 4.4? And where did you get the stock boot.img?

following.

devsk said:
Please post here if magisk worked on 4.4? And where did you get the stock boot.img?
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Yes Magisk works on 4.4. There's a 4.4 Boot image thread in the Guides. You should be able to find it

almahix said:
I think I'll just live with 2.2 until oxy updated has 4.4. From what I've read 4.4 doesn't really do much. OnePlus sucks anymore.
PS I was finally able to download 2.2 again and I install it (via system update) which got rid of root so I downloaded and installed 4.4. Haven't rooted it yet.
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4.4 has improved my battery life somehow.. Seemingly a lot better than it was.
In regards to there updates, I'd say (if you're rooted or not) to use oxygen updater, it's an absolutely rock solid app.
Plus they tend to release way before OnePlus do for each device.
Installation isn't affected by root, simply disable your modules then when prompted to reboot just don't, click install to inactive slot and you're done.
If you've taken an incremental update then I couldn't help you, personally I'd only stick to full updates.
4.4 has definitely improved things for me.
I'm on BA /2023

dladz said:
4.4 has improved my battery life somehow.. Seemingly a lot better than it was.
In regards to there updates, I'd say (if you're rooted or not) to use oxygen updater, it's an absolutely rock solid app.
Plus they tend to release way before OnePlus do for each device.
Installation isn't affected by root, simply disable your modules then when prompted to reboot just don't, click install to inactive slot and you're done.
If you've taken an incremental update then I couldn't help you, personally I'd only stick to full updates.
4.4 has definitely improved things for me.
I'm on BA /2023
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I like Oxygen Updater but it is still showing 2.2. I downloaded that 2.2 to get rid of root then was able to download 4.4 from system update, now I'm trying to root 4.4. Fastboot boot isn't working for me now for some reason. I'm not sure those downloads labeled 4.4, IN11AA (2020 global) are for real. If anyone has a file known to work on this variety please share a link.

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I like Oxygen Updater but it is still showing 2.2. I downloaded that 2.2 to get rid of root then was able to download 4.4 from system update, now I'm trying to root 4.4. Fastboot boot isn't working for me now for some reason. I'm not sure those downloads labeled 4.4, IN11AA (2020 global) are for real. If anyone has a file known to work on this variety please share a link.
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I have the BA model. So I can't help you there mate.
There were people flashing BA according to people in my thread, perhaps contact them via PM and see what they say.
Wasn't a big deal by all accounts.

11.0.4.4 available now via OnePlus site.
Software Upgrade - OnePlus.com
Get the latest OxygenOS updates for your device.OxygenOS is always evolving. Learn about the latest features and improvements, and get even more out of your device.
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Oxygen updater finally has the 4.4 11 AA. I have payload dumped it and tried to patch the boot.img but magisk is failing. I cannot seem to get the canary channel so I'm using the latest beta but it isn't working. I cannot believe that nothing is working for me. Has anyone else succeeded?

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Oxygen updater finally has the 4.4 11 AA. I have payload dumped it and tried to patch the boot.img but magisk is failing. I cannot seem to get the canary channel so I'm using the latest beta but it isn't working. I cannot believe that nothing is working for me. Has anyone else succeeded?
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I've been on 11.0.4.4 for about a week now, but I did it using the OTA, not with the full upload. I've been doing it this way for a while, just like I did with my Pixel 2XL.
Anyway, I downloaded the full upload from OnePlus's page a few minutes ago to test it out, and I was able to patch the boot image after extracting it from the payload.bin using the latest beta magisk. I did it on my Pixel 2XL, that's really the only reason I keep that phone around now, besides it being a backup phone just in case my OP8P craps out.

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I've been on 11.0.4.4 for about a week now, but I did it using the OTA, not with the full upload. I've been doing it this way for a while, just like I did with my Pixel 2XL.
Anyway, I downloaded the full upload from OnePlus's page a few minutes ago to test it out, and I was able to patch the boot image after extracting it from the payload.bin using the latest beta magisk. I did it on my Pixel 2XL, that's really the only reason I keep that phone around now, besides it being a backup phone just in case my OP8P craps out.
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Great idea! I never thought of patching the stock boot.img on another device. It worked and now I'm finally rooted. Thank you for sharing your idea! BTW my former phone was a Pixel2XL. Was that the best phone ever? Still is but I sold it when I bought my 8pro. Big mistake!

Question How to update rooted Nothing Phone 1?

Hello. I've been snooping this forum for a while, and so i rooted my Nothing Phone 1. However it was back when 1.1.0 was a thing and didn't update to newer versions (mainly because of it's reviews). However recently i've been hearing positive feedback on 1.1.3 version and so i decided to give it a shot. But how could i do such thing if i'm rooted?
I know i would soft-brick my device if i would let OTA pass and install. This way i would probably need a full OTA rom and flash it manually somehow. Also, if someone know, downgrade guide would be awesome too (in case i will have issues with the new update).

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Hello. I've been snooping this forum for a while, and so i rooted my Nothing Phone 1. However it was back when 1.1.0 was a thing and didn't update to newer versions (mainly because of it's reviews). However recently i've been hearing positive feedback on 1.1.3 version and so i decided to give it a shot. But how could i do such thing if i'm rooted?
I know i would soft-brick my device if i would let OTA pass and install. This way i would probably need a full OTA rom and flash it manually somehow. Also, if someone know, downgrade guide would be awesome too (in case i will have issues with the new update).
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You will have this tuto if you want to update by Sideload the OTA zip
[GUIDE][HowTo]Pushing an OTA.zip Update with ADB Sideload - Updated 26-07-2022​

Can't help you unfortunately, but let me know, after you manage, if your vibration intensity went down at all after the update or if it's all just my brain playing tricks on me.
FWIW, I don't have any issues with the latest version, except maybe lower vibration intensity, though that might just be because I started wearing a case more often.
Also the updates apparently have different features in different regions (for example, EEA had optimized battery ever since I first received the phone with version 1.1.2). They don't document the differences so it's possible other regions are buggy-er

This is how I managed to update a rooted Nothing Phone 1 (EU).
1. Disable all Magisk modules.
2. Restore images in Magisk
3. Install the OTA update through Updater in settings. Do NOT reboot when finished.
4. Install to inactive slot in Magisk
5. When that is finished, reboot. Done!

Pheggas said:
Hello. I've been snooping this forum for a while, and so i rooted my Nothing Phone 1. However it was back when 1.1.0 was a thing and didn't update to newer versions (mainly because of it's reviews). However recently i've been hearing positive feedback on 1.1.3 version and so i decided to give it a shot. But how could i do such thing if i'm rooted?
I know i would soft-brick my device if i would let OTA pass and install. This way i would probably need a full OTA rom and flash it manually somehow. Also, if someone know, downgrade guide would be awesome too (in case i will have issues with the new update).
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Nothing Phone (1) [ ROM ][ OTA ][ Nothing OS ] Repo of Nothing OS
Note: This is not a support thread for issues you may have with Nothing OS ROMs. If you need help installing or updating, feel free to ask here. If you have any other issues, please ask in another thread. Regarding problems with the Phone(1)...
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Add offlineOTAUpgrade from activities tab (like nova launcher), and download the full rom, simply update, and unfortunately it reboots before magisk can install to unused slot, so Fastboot boot rooted boot img and do a full install

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Nothing Phone (1) [ ROM ][ OTA ][ Nothing OS ] Repo of Nothing OS
Note: This is not a support thread for issues you may have with Nothing OS ROMs. If you need help installing or updating, feel free to ask here. If you have any other issues, please ask in another thread. Regarding problems with the Phone(1)...
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Thank you. Unfortunately, that guide is missing all the commands and clearness.

Pheggas said:
Thank you. Unfortunately, that guide is missing all the commands and clearness.
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There only one command "for update from root" and you can't be more clear in the step lol
So it's normal to don't found "all the commands" because there only one command to enter.
If you search a guide for root the first time, it's exactly the same thing but first your bootloader must be unlocked (all your date will be erased)
What is your problem ? Where are you blocked ?

Pho3nX said:
There only one command "for update from root" and you can't be more clear in the step lol
So it's normal to don't found "all the commands" because there only one command to enter.
If you search a guide for root the first time, it's exactly the same thing but first your bootloader must be unlocked (all your date will be erased)
What is your problem ? Where are you blocked ?
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Hi @Pho3nX (and @Pheggas )
It's the same "my" problem...
I'd like to update me NP1 (rooted), waiting next custom roms that unfortunately are not ready
I'm not so smart with modding and we appreciate some detailed info/guide, step by step, with full commands to write, avoiding dangerous bricks...
I've stored in a folder my first boot.img and the magisk.img but I'm afraid to do some mistake with CMD strings...
Thanks for Your cooperation and... patience...
Ciao

notexcited said:
This is how I managed to update a rooted Nothing Phone 1 (EU).
1. Disable all Magisk modules.
2. Restore images in Magisk
3. Install the OTA update through Updater in settings. Do NOT reboot when finished.
4. Install to inactive slot in Magisk
5. When that is finished, reboot. Done!
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this worked great for me the last few times, but this method no longer works for me after I installed version 1.1.4. can someone help me?

+1 for a detailed list of possible methods to update when rooted.

Sib64 said:
You will have this tuto if you want to update by Sideload the OTA zip
[GUIDE][HowTo]Pushing an OTA.zip Update with ADB Sideload - Updated 26-07-2022​
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But i shouldn't update with OTA packages when i'm rooted. There's risk of brick and tutorials on any device guides to update via flashing full package.

Pheggas said:
But i shouldn't update with OTA packages when i'm rooted. There's risk of brick and tutorials on any device guides to update via flashing full package.
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Wait for full package and follow the same tutorial