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Hello all,
Made some research and found out in bad surprise that lots of the ROMs offered here are developed by some guys coming from conflict regions or cultures that preach and encourage "holy wars" against civilized, peaceful countries. This makes me somehow doubt the software/malware contained in these distributions, given the latest "digital guerillas"... I don't want my phone call information, emails, SMSs or phone call recordings being transparently forwarded to some intelligence agency.
Can somebody please reccomend a clean origin distribution so our phones are safe ? Please do not ask me to point the suspicious sources, I do not want to accuse anyone, I just want a clean, trustworthy source.
sorry vasilica2008 the mods do not allow us to give an advice about what is a good rom. simply because a good rom differs for everyone.
some like them close to stock, some like them most stable, others like max speed or naked.
it is a personal thing a rom.
if you had used the search in this forum you would have seen that all the threads asking similar questions are locked.
just look at the first few posts on a rom thread. the cook will explain what he has done to the rom.
if you like it read further. and try a few. you will find your rom for sure.
Finally read the guide about flashing. things can go wrong and most of them are easily prevented or solved.
vasilica2008 said:
Hello all,
Made some research and found out in bad surprise that lots of the ROMs offered here are developed by some guys coming from conflict regions or cultures that preach and encourage "holy wars" against civilized, peaceful countries. This makes me somehow doubt the software/malware contained in these distributions, given the latest "digital guerillas"... I don't want my phone call information, emails, SMSs or phone call recordings being transparently forwarded to some intelligence agency.
Can somebody please reccomend a clean origin distribution so our phones are safe ? Please do not ask me to point the suspicious sources, I do not want to accuse anyone, I just want a clean, trustworthy source.
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i see that in the mean time i was typing you changed the post to this . I this case can you thrust anybody's rom????
i think the chefs are integer persons. if you are this afraid just stick to stock roms and look no further for any improvements and any software. as you dont know the source of any of them.
vasilica2008 said:
Hello all,
Made some research and found out in bad surprise that lots of the ROMs offered here are developed by some guys coming from conflict regions or cultures that preach and encourage "holy wars" against civilized, peaceful countries. This makes me somehow doubt the software/malware contained in these distributions, given the latest "digital guerillas"... I don't want my phone call information, emails, SMSs or phone call recordings being transparently forwarded to some intelligence agency.
Can somebody please reccomend a clean origin distribution so our phones are safe ? Please do not ask me to point the suspicious sources, I do not want to accuse anyone, I just want a clean, trustworthy source.
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I don't know why you have such suspicion, having flashed a zillion of roms and cooked a couple myself, I had never come across any of the dubious sources you have described, and even there is indeed one, the power of the community would have such source clamped down fairly quickly.
If you still do not trust the cooks here, then I suggest you should just stop flash and stick with your stock rom.
Surely, even if true and some developers come from regions in conflict, is it fair to damn them because of that (Embargoed countries withstanding). There are very few countries in the world that are ethically clean - I am from and live in the UK and there is a lot that has been done in the name of England in the past 150 years that I would be mortified if I, as a person, was judged for.
Malware? I guess that's possible with all cooked ROMS, regardless of country source. Best advice - if nervous, look carefully at conversation threads in this forum (and beware the usual false positive (search the HSPL / HSPL2 thread).
Let's not turn this thread into a political discussion
CleanEX - The Ultimate Clean and Fast ROM made in England:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=639068
Isn't it to late for april fools?
Sorry, no joke intended. Thanks for the answers, lads, I'll stick with the stock ROMs then. All the best.
hey its a risk walking on the streets! Do your research like everyone else and if you have your suspicions then don't take risks, coming out with these accusations don't help anyone!
Everyones taste is different.
You'll be missing out on a lot if you stick to stock ROM's... but hey - your choice.
it's worth remembering hundreds, thousands in some cases, of fairly technical people install some of these roms every day.it would be very difficult to conceal anything untoward in a rom for long.
I posted in an earlier thread that I was getting worried that there is so much noise in the Evo development section that high quality ROMs by dedicated programmers were getting lost in the fracas of those that feel slapping a new wallpaper on a ROM qualified as its own distribution.
I was thinking that the best solution would be to see if the community would be interested in a way to uprank and downrank distributions in a one stop gateway that would help everyone clearly see which ROMs are the brightest and the best.
To that effect, I've created a Google Moderator series that lists ROMs. You can put a checkbox next to the ones you support, and an X if there is one (or some) in particular that you had some bad mojo with. If one you love isn't there, you're more than free to add it yourself to get the voting going!
The best part is, you can change your votes at any time!
http://bit.ly/aaZbOD
This may work, this may suck. Time will tell if this can become at all useful
If you dig this idea, please bump it for awareness. Otherwise, we can let it disappear.
No harm, no foul
We've had 15 people contribute so far. The more we get, the more comprehensive the data!
I'll bump this. Before I used to check the thread rating and whichever ROM thread had the best rating, I would go in and test it out. This could help out.
This'll definitely help in deciding a ROM to flash. Bump.
Sure I'll support this...
NOTE: please don't use this list as a bible...once we start rooting phones, they can tend to have a mind of their own. Some roms run great on some phones but are unstable on others. Same goes for kernels and themes. Remember, YMMV.
Great Idea.
jd9900 said:
Sure I'll support this...
NOTE: please don't use this list as a bible...once we start rooting phones, they can tend to have a mind of their own. Some roms run great on some phones but are unstable on others. Same goes for kernels and themes. Remember, YMMV.
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Agreed. Hopefully the whole "wisdom of the crowds" thing can at least push people in the right direction.
You all owe it to yourself and your phone to read the threads associated with these ROMs before flashing though!
I removed two added suggestions that did not follow the style of the vote. Please add roms not "MORE ROMS PLZ"
Awesome idea. Will vote.
Sticky this. I think it would clear up alot of questions too. Id say combine this idea with the release matrix from androidspin.com would be great.
for reference to what im talking about
http://db.androidspin.com/androidsp...id_build_base_os=&android_developer_id=&go=go
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this will be good for those rooting from froyo
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I think that it's a great idea to add some sorting/ratings/details about all the roms out there, to anyone that hasn't been on these forums a while I'd assume it's quite overwhelming.
I'm not sure what the best idea is, as voting in a thumbs up/down fashion might not be the greatest way to show evaluation, I'm sure a lot of people with negatives are gonna be the ones with bugs or couldn't get it to work right.
In the end, I think rom reviews would be ideal, if we could get someone to do them. I remember shopping for a Nintendo DS cart, if anyone is familiar with them, and I found a website that had frequently updated reviews of the different available cartridges from the various teams that made them, and even though everyone knew the R4 brand cartridge I was able to get a good feel for the developers and features I was choosing from and I chose another brand that I was quite happy with.
I think voting makes it a popularity vs people with bugs/problems contest, more detailed voting (stars/categories) would end up being too tedious for most, and the spreadsheets, tho useful, don't really tell you everything you need to know.
Reviewers can also make the community more aware of who is making our kernels, the differences between them, available themes, battery life comparisons, etc.
We just need to find some people that swap roms enough and would be willing to do the write ups...
i think it will become a popularity contest which is part of the point, but the problem i see is that there are many die hard fans of this rom or that rom and i have no doubt they will negatively rate other roms just to try to move there fav rom up the list whether or not they used the rom, was something wrong with it, or not.
I think any type of ranking system is more hurtful then helpful. If you are a dev for a rom that isnt as popular or is new you may show at the bottom of the list even though your rom is bug free stable and fast. If people use this list as a true reference they will see your rom at the bottom or not on it at all and assume your rom isnt very good this could be very discouraging to the devs that even though they work hard and have a very solid rom they may not get many users and may be considered a "bad" rom since they haven't been around as long or arent one of the big 4-5 that people frequently use.
just my take on it. i like the review idea of the above user that along with nief's rom comparison that actually compares performance and battery life i think is the most helpful personally giving every rom its fair chance. it also takes popularity out of it to some degree and gives newer roms a fair chance vs coming in down 1000 votes.
I agree but people certainly do gravitate toward quality.
I took a lot of time to think about what the best way of doing this would be, and Moderator seems to be the best idea:
1. Reviews get outdated with each iteration. What you cite as problems now, can be fixed tomorrow.
2. The benchmarking idea is also bad since each phone is different. My phone pegged in the high 40s on old Linpack on most ROMs where others were seeing mid thirties. Again, outdated is an issue.
3. A poll on the site doesn't allow for other ROMs to be added easily
4. You can always change your mind.
Unfortunately, since the question is "what is everyone's favorite ROMs" is technically a popularity question, a popularity contest is what it is.
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Bump! Sticky?
Bump for fantastic happy goodness.
If this would have saved us from the inevitable 400 other threads started each week asking, "which ROM should I flash?", I think it could have been a great idea!
You have my vote I support it.
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Hello everyone.
I'm getting really tired of seeing new ROM's and Kernel's being born into our Oneplus community..
What I mean by that is NOT that I don't like people trying to give us something new from their own hard work I LOVE YOU GUYS, seriously the people that gives us and me your OWN free time is AMAZING.... BUT.
(Almost everytime... not everytime) When a new ROM or Kernel joins the family the author seems to want to end up on the first page.. WHICH is totally WRONG because this is not about being FIRST.... ROM's can certainly have different options and optimizations but when people start to use thread names as - BEST ROM - BEST BATTERY OF ALL ROMS - new members get mislead and starts testing ROM's for no reason... why do you name your threads like that?Isn't this about giving the community the best possible experience without.. basically lying? There is NO reason to do it.. it's like a SPORT? Since when was this a sport? STOP IT!
I'm tired of meaningless thread names telling how good THEIR ROM is.. regardless how similar it is to... everything else. Why should we lure people into testing nothing different to the other ROM he or she just flashed? This is NONSENSE! Write your modifications, optimizations and options.. but DON'T say YOUR rom is better then the others!! Let the community decide that... there is so many people that will think different so again, there is NO reason to lure new people into flash totally meaningless stuff because YOU say that your ROM/KERNEL is so much better the others!!!
Guys, recent developments in the Dev forums are driving away young developers. Sure, currently, they might not be able to do much more than cook a rom, but I've used a few of those roms and for months they were a good alternative to miui. Everyone needs to start somewhere.
Sure, mistakes were made in giving props, and maybe they don't quite understand what xda fundamentally is just yet, but to start bashing them once we realized that some other developer on a different forum was able to deliver a solid cm12.1 build was rather distasteful. I would have liked for us to nurture this guy who has clearly spent a lot of time on rom development already, and could have potentially make great contributions in the future.
My 2c.
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+1, I agree... I understand the perspective of both sides, but too bad it could not have been worked out privately instead of publicly bashing each other.
I agree it is best to build not destroy
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I also found it very childish the sort of tactics you would expect from big companies like Apple.
If it was a cooked rom with some tweaks for whatever then what is the problem just get the person to state this and people can choose if they want to use it or not.
Just noticed the guy we are talking about has had to make his own board private now with people going over there and moaning.
I don't want to just be a "me too" on this topic, so I will add another point. I do cook ROMs myself occasionally, to make them what I would prefer them to be from the start. I have often wondered whether I should share my "work". Yes, it is work, and it takes a lot of time that one could spend doing gainfully something else, and it is risky, because I have bricked my devices many times in the process of cooking ROMs. I have shared some of my "work" in the past, but, given what has just transpired here, I think I will keep my work to myself in future. Even though some may benefit from it, life is too short to be taking online abuse.
Lesson learned. You can bashing whoever you want if you 'smart enough' or 'serious dev fanboy'.
Keep Bashinnggg... Yeaaay..
I agree. Now we have no dev / cooker / what the f$&% you want anymore on xda. That's only because some users think always bad instead of motivate young 'ROM workers'.
So now this very stupid people are invited to open a new thread to index original developers works, as we don't know Chinese in order to get a fuc++ng ROM from chinese web sites.
And, please, stop to be so strong with other people... Life won't be always easy as it is behind of a screen.
I'm not up to speed about what's happening around here, but looking at the dev section, I understand who the "dev" in question is. But what exactly happened?
Edit: never mind, found it.
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Be aware that this is still a concept and not a fully fledged thing
QUICK START​
This is a system which prevents kangers from stealing ROMs from its original developers.
In this concept, it is hard to integrate, but should work well.
HOW IT WORKS​
This system is divided into 3 layers, and a fourth additional one which is unnecesarry, but can be integrated too
1. Layer - Friendly Zone
Code:
- ROM is packed like system.new.dat similar to how AOSP ROMs are built
Layer 1 can't prevent the kanger if he/she has the right software to unpack and repack it
2. Layer - Warning Zone
Code:
- If the kanger changes the build.prop, the system won't boot due to few additional tweaks
Layer 2 can't prevent the kanger if he/she understands the build.prop well
3. Layer - Nightmare Zone
Code:
- Very specific files are arranged around the system, mostly apks, but can be masked as frameworks
- Yes, these are masked files which can be deadly
- If the files are changed or deleted other files can scan for them
- This means that if the kanger deletes a masked trigger file the other files will be alarmed
- When the other files are alarmed they start doing their actions
- Their actions can be either direct or indirect
- If indirect, they will trigger a very well hidden .sh script somewhere in the system which is a really deadly file
- If direct, they trigger the actions themselves
- The actions are: Mount all partitions, wipe all partitions, even the internal storage and efs
Layer 3 can't prevent the kanger if he/she knows the exact file locations
4. Layer - Beyond Hell Zone
Code:
- This would be an extension to the 3. layer
- There was a thing back in the days of the s4 and s4 mini that could disable you from using download mode
- If I remember correctly you can do this by a cc code, but I'm not sure
This thing should be automatically triggered when the layer 3 is triggered
I kinda get your point here but.. and i myself dont have the knowledge to make a rom or modify a rom so i speak as a user.. isnt the point with this whole forum to share/make/use roms? No one is propably not making these roms to make money i hope. If you start closing up roms then how does it differ then from samsung/lg/huawei etc. Wich have closed roms/bootloaders and so on and leave everyone waiting for someones breaktrough. And all the glory should of course go to the original rom maker but sometimes someone else just hits the sweet spot in someone elses rom and makes it from great to even better.. but of course it should be mentioned whos rom it was from the beginning..
I see what you mean, and you're totally right. Just it's I know Alexis and Sugar are having pain because of kangers. Sugar said he'd quit XDA because of this. Now this system is a concept as I said, so it doesn't necesarely have to be made. This is why I don't make ROMs, I build them. Sure I need the 21gb source, but really, it's much more enjoyable see the camera break on aokp, see the bluetooth work on los. Also, Alexis likes your comment
Some troll could specially trigger the layers, share it and an innocent xda user would get his phone bricked, maybe even destroyed (layer 4).
Anti kang already exists. Nemesis roms have them and aurora (not sure about aurora tho). Zone 3 and 4 would be illegal on XDA, it is forbidden to destroy someone their phone, i.e. a script that wipes EFS and all. It is even sad.
By the way love the anti kang idea when all work is based on an open community that shares mods. Kang is just a childish discussion made up by people. Eventually all these roms are "kanged" from a manufacturer and then slightly modified, which as you remember is based on the idea of an open community. For the people who prefer ego over kang shouldnt release anything.
You should ask yourself the following: Isn't cherry-picking someone else their work and publishing it as a rom or something the same *lol*? Atleast S6 has working HAL, fingerprint etc now..
Kang out:fingers-crossed:
there are only 4 or 5 guys that knows how my/aurora antikang works because they have it byself in rom. and yes when build.prop string is changed it dont boots anymore
and no i dont have any plans to share how it works or then all can bypass it
I have read in a Nemesis ROM thread about this "antikang" and I am really shocked. What's wrong with this community? All the custom ROMs rely on an open phone architecture. Without freeware, open source tools and other knowledge there work wouldn't be possible. And now those people try to prevent other people from doing the same. And they try to do it in a very eval way by "destroying" the users data and maybe more. Without people that share there work open source and everything based on it including 99% of what you find in this forum would not be possible. This is absolutely disgusting and everyone should boycott those ROMs and techniques!
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I have read in a Nemesis ROM thread about this "antikang" and I am really shocked. What's wrong with this community? All the custom ROMs rely on an open phone architecture. Without freeware, open source tools and other knowledge there work wouldn't be possible. And now those people try to prevent other people from doing the same. And they try to do it in a very eval way by "destroying" the users data and maybe more. Without people that share there work open source and everything based on it including 99% of what you find in this forum would not be possible. This is absolutely disgusting and everyone should boycott those ROMs and techniques!
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when someone wants somethings in rom can ask but kangers can forget it. and like you said all things are here on forum so they can add it byself in rom and not kang it
I see this shi* and try to realize what has become of the community...
I get and share your anger when kangers get their hands on precious pieces of code that took time (most of the time unpaid) to come up with and not get some kind of recognition, but this is lowering and resembling their level of ignorance/lack of manners and just makes you the same or worse than them
I mean, trying to destroy/damage/soft-brick phones if just evil and it is not justifiable by any means and in any way that I see, helps the community in any way (I mean, it would reduce in a drastic way kanging, but it does not contribute in any way) other than protecting the "dev-ego" that many have here
Maybe Samsung should start coming down on people for "kanging" their ROM.
Most stupid idea I've ever seen on this forum.
That would be a bad new for AOSP "developer" lol.
Anyway it's not your creations at first. Its based on Samsung work. Or MIUI for MIUI ROM of this section.
The original topic gonna have more user than the kanged one so why cry ? Maybe your ego is so high that's why.
This section need really a Kim Jong Hun or a Trump to clean people like you from here xD.
SoDeadly said:
Most stupid idea I've ever seen on this forum.
That would be a bad new for AOSP "developer" lol.
Anyway it's not your creations at first. Its based on Samsung work. Or MIUI for MIUI ROM of this section.
The original topic gonna have more user than the kanged one so why cry ? Maybe your ego is so high that's why.
This section need really a Kim Jong Hun or a Trump to clean people like you from here xD.
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Well just look at his user name it's xcopyrightpvp, only somebody with a stupid name like that comes up with a dumb idea like this.
What a terrible idea, for a number of reasons...
I want 2nd but how
Remember the good old days when people used to mod Sony Ericsson or Motorola or symbian or windows mobile? People used to do things because they wanted they're creations on their phones and to share it!
Now like the rest of the world everyone just wants to make money, i knew it would come to this too bad i didn't think to maintain a forum since the old days maybe now i would have been king xda. But no it's a shameless idea if i like the rom but want to modify it a bit for my taste why should it brick my phone? Yes you could implement these things but instead of bricking phones why not just send a report that it is used modified by more than 1. 5 users then you know it's a ripoff. Then xda knows and the developers knows what to shutdown.