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Hi, I'm new to the site, and I wanted to ask if someone could please help me change my HTC Touch IMEI... Most of the solutions I found on google didn't work well, maybe because I'm using a newer SPL? Please help, I'm totaly new to this kind of things...
Thanks in advance
It's illegal in most countries.
I know, but I saw that there are some programs to edit it here, so I think I am allowed to ask...
ricky92 said:
I know, but I saw that there are some programs to edit it here, so I think I am allowed to ask...
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its illegal like the man said...so no you are not allowed to ask [Mod Edit for Language] Thank you
It's illegal to record someonethat doesn't know it,but you can still buy spycameras... Not that I condone it, but the program isn't illegal.
ljinsane said:
its illegal like the man said...so no you are not allowed to ask...[Mod Edit for Language]...Thank you
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First of all, I think you should just calm down. I have just kindly asked for a solution and you insult me. What a nice person you are, really... Even if it's not legal I'm sure it's not disallowed to post such things here, or most of the posts/programs I found here using google would have been deleted...
Dnt worry..just reported him
There is a thread some were by the name " Changin IMEI is going to get u a score "...look in that maybe its helpful for u
Quick Mod Note:
Just because something is illegal that doesn't mean you can't ask about it. Granted you probably won't get much legit help with it but asking the question is fair game.
There was a changer written by a member to help those who have "legit" use for such a tool. Of course the thread was allowed to live after much Moderator discussion about it but there were heavy warnings abotu the legality of doing such to your phone. Also note that this was back when the Wizard was king so I doubt it will work for newer devices.
Two Reasons for IMEI Change
1. You have a stolen phone
2. Your a terrorist
Thanks for the help, is the program iWizard? I found it, and well, it just tells me my IMEI is composed by numbers and LETTERS xD
Well, then my question becomes another one: is there a way to downgrade from SPL 2.60 (I think... how do I find it?) to a lower one, just to try if it works?
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No, it's not a stolen phone neither I am a terrorist (what would a terrorist do with a changed IMEI?!? )... It's my father's old phone which he believed it got stolen, so he blocked the IMEI... now that ha has found it again (he left it in our house on the seaside, where I am writing from) he gave it to me because he bought a new one and he doesn't have the bill here, so he can't unlock the IMEI now. I can stil use it as a smartphone and I really like it, but I don't like taking 2 phones with me... so I wanted to fix it, at least temporary (we're going back home in August... -_-"). I don't want to do anything EXTREMELY illegal, just change the IMEI for a few months...
Some European countries (like Turkey) require you to pay import tax on phones purchased out of country before they can be activated. Basically instead of operating on a blacklist to block stolen phones your phone must be whitelisted to work. It gets whitelisted when sales tax (or import tax) is paid.
If you don't have an acceptable receipt (basically up to customs if they'll accept eBay/Paypal print-outs) then you can never get the device whitelisted as you can't pay the tax.
So is it completely legal? No.
Is it an understandable situation? Yes.
One of those gray areas where XDA-Devs thrives. No trying to steal but need to bend the rules a bit.
obsydian said:
1. You have a stolen phone
2. Your a terrorist
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Sorry to bump, still looking for someone to help me downgrade it...
I'm in the same boat, though I need to change the IMEI on my Kaiser. iWizard doesn't even detect my phone.
Kyphur,
you said it right man..I am from Turkey, live in US.. I have a ATT tilt..when I went there in March I registered my phone..but only every two years I can register one phone..so it means I gotta use this tilt over there for 2 years..but i change my phone every 6 months..so this is a grey area..it is a f'ed up rule we have there in Turkey...
guys someone is actually selling this on ebay! wth?
can you block/report items like this?
he is actually stealing your work and donations!
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-HD2-Android...&otn=3&po=LVI&ps=63&clkid=5747815010145007575
Don't worry, People that have HD2 in their hands wouldn't be that stupid.
Don't be so sure about that. Just look at the number of stupid posts by people who can't figure out how to drop a folder on their sd card and touch haret.
Somebody should report that guy. He could be taking cash from the pockets of the developers on this site.
I can't beleve that he is actually selling them, I mean, people are buying them!!!!! WTF????
Sign into ebay and report auction
brianwilkie76 said:
I can't beleve that he is actually selling them, I mean, people are buying them!!!!! WTF????
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If you have an ebay account, just select auction and hit the report button to ebay, and they will close that auction... I did that to a few of them... When you report the auction, just be sure to include XDA web site so ebay can see that the info is there for free, and those people selling the info is fraud.......
Yeah its not good!! Some people will fall for it...
According to his listings he has sold 8 copies so far for US$10.
Also this one selling an SD card with it on for GBP£30
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HD2-ANDROID-I...MobilePhones_MobilePhones&hash=item2c56e0f5ab
I am not an ebay customer, but can he be stopped? He/They are selling a copy of freely available work. Only a chef can stop them if they claim property rights.
Best way is for an ebay customer to look at who purchased a copy, contact them through ebay contact email, let them know they were conned and ask if they will give you sellers name, address and/or email, then add comments to ebay forum.
i reported his listing on ebay. please report also if possible
Code:
Please note that this is a system generated email; please do not reply to this email because it won't reach us. You can contact the Customer support using the help section from the navbar.
Listing Policy Breaches > Counterfeits and breach of copyright > Other potential infringement > Beta software, test software, or evaluation software
Item Numbers(s):
190436144555
Message: this is a FREE item from www.xda-developers.com
it is open source and it is illegal to be sold!!
I reported this crook as well. Maybe change your thread title to "eBay Scam" to attract more needed attention.
There's more of that crap:
http://cgi.ebay.com/HTC-HD2-Android-Froyo-2-2-/170541861010?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item27b5164892
Some asshole tries to make easy money with the work of others, and against the free license too.
there have been thread after thread about people doing this , and every one came to one conclusion ....let them do what they do ...it makes you look like a hater
malex1 said:
According to his listings he has sold 8 copies so far for US$10.
Also this one selling an SD card with it on for GBP£30
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HD2-ANDROID-I...MobilePhones_MobilePhones&hash=item2c56e0f5ab
I am not an ebay customer, but can he be stopped? He/They are selling a copy of freely available work. Only a chef can stop them if they claim property rights.
Best way is for an ebay customer to look at who purchased a copy, contact them through ebay contact email, let them know they were conned and ask if they will give you sellers name, address and/or email, then add comments to ebay forum.
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well, this one is not that bad. he tells that the payment is only for the work he does.
he does that only for the ones that doesnt understand how to do it alone
he even writes that every purchase gives a donation to the devs of the hd2 android project and gives credits to the devs.. so i dont know if its really that bad as u say?
i mean, he is not selling the software, the buyers only pay his work
thatruth132 said:
there have been thread after thread about people doing this , and every one came to one conclusion ....let them do what they do ...it makes you look like a hater
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It's actually illegal, and making money from someone else's work, which is also thievery.
I can't see why someone would defend such people... unless you are one of them, of course.
D4rkSoRRoW said:
well, this one is not that bad. he tells that the payment is only for the work he does.
he does that only for the ones that doesnt understand how to do it alone
he even writes that every purchase gives a donation to the devs of the hd2 android project and gives credits to the devs.. so i dont know if its really that bad as u say?
i mean, he is not selling the software, the buyers only pay his work
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No! This should never be sold, thus community we are all part of is gree, that's what makes it so good, most make donations. But there donations, its wrong if he is making donations then is he making them to the likes of cotulla and his team and all the other cooks that have given us their time! It's crap these guys should be tracked down and banned of xda
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Wildcopper said:
It's actually illegal, and making money from someone else's work, which is also thievery.
I can't see why someone would defend such people... unless you are one of them, of course.
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the only way you would know is if you was a customer lmao
i don’t think that someone that cannot do it himself/herself should pay though! We never denied help to anyone around here and personally i even received two phones by mail, unlocked them, flashed a custom rom and send them back so no i will not say "it's ok"
i volunteer if any of those sellers needs help to send me the SD and i will send it back with the Android OS (i don’t believe its necessary though, its some simple steps)
i will try to contact the newswritters abt this issue
Wildcopper said:
It's actually illegal, and making money from someone else's work, which is also thievery.
I can't see why someone would defend such people... unless you are one of them, of course.
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why should this be illegal?? if you pay for his work of compiling information, and not for the build itself? he says he'll send instructions, not a file/zip/sdcard/device...
don't get me wrong - i'm not defending this guy. but there's a difference between being illegal and being impolite/unfair/an as*h*le....
to state it clear once again: i personally don't like what the guy is doing, i do not support this inacceptable behaviour.
hebbe said:
why should this be illegal?? if you pay for his work of compiling information, and not for the build itself? he says he'll send instructions, not a file/zip/sdcard/device...
don't get me wrong - i'm not defending this guy. but there's a difference between being illegal and being impolite/unfair/an as*h*le....
to state it clear once again: i personally don't like what the guy is doing, i do not support this inacceptable behaviour.
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It is always a gray area as eBay sellers only sell the links (most of them don't even compile the instructions themselves), they do not sell the software. It is a shame that this happens (has happened for years), but they clearly state that they are only providing the info on how to do things. I agree that no one should sell even knowledge that is not theirs, but technically speaking, it is not illegal. They are only selling info...
I still reported it though, but I doubt anything good will come out of it.
Unfortunately there is no law against people profiting off of stupidity.
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Well it looks like Ebay took care of it. Thread closed
****OK FIRST OFF BY NO MEANS IS THIS METHOD A BRUTE FORCE METHOD OR A HACK OF SORTS****
***THIS METHOD INVOLVES PURCHASING A SERVICE AND PROVIDING YOUR DEVICES IMEI NUMBER****
***I, NOR ANYONE ELSE, IS NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU USE THIS AND SOMETHING DOES NOT WORK***
***IF SUCCESSFUL, YOU SHOULD ALSO KNOW THAT YOUR WARRANTY IS NOW VOIDED, BUT HEY YOUR HAVE AN UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER RIGHT?***
**SEE HERE FOR TWRP AND ROOT INT HIS THREAD INFO ONCE YOU ARE UNLOCKED**
UPDATE: See this post on pg 30 for TWRP and ROOT INSTALL
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51155272&postcount=294
Ok so as some know there has been a somewhat confirmed and discovered way to unlock the bootloader on carrier purchased Moto X/Droid Ultra/Maxx/Mini Devices. I will explain in brief detail what is needed to do. Please understand that I will be providing no links, just a brief explanation of what you can do to attempt this. There are 2 methods.
1 - doing it directly yourself and purchasing the service. (website)
2 - using the service through a 3rd Party (eBay)
The service I found is on a website if you have not heard about it, PM someone here willing to help. Now in order to use the site you need to sign up etc etc and its not in English. Here is where your good ol friend Goggle Translate comes into play.
Now for Method 1
Sign up on the website. The website is called taobao.com. you will need to use chrome and google translate to navigate through the site. you will need to set up and account and payment info etc etc.
Search for a seller selling the unlock codes (Price will no be in USD). Search for xt1080 unlock or something like that. There are many purchase options. Just amke sure it is for your device and read the listing.
Purchase using the sites standard payment method (similar to paypal here) or through credit card elligble for purchases in the country of origin.
*Provide IMEI to seller and receive unlock code.
Usually within 24-48 hours you have an unlock code.
*NOTE - If you do not feel comfortable providing this, then i suggest you stop right away. Always know what you are doing and the risks involved.
Method 2
Certain sellers on eBay will provide a service to do all the purchasing for you and all you need to do it pay the small auction price, and then paypal or transfer them the funds for the sale. They will purchase for you etc etc. You will need to search for taobao on eBay and find a seller. Once this is done then you can work with the seller, provide the link to the item you want and go from there. Please be aware of what you are doing. IN this method you now give your IMEI to not only the person giving the unlock code, but also a person through eBay.
**AGAIN PLEASE KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING**
I myself went ahead with method 1 and was successful (see images). Some people have had success and will contest to it. As with any boot loader unlock, please know your warranty is now void and neither XDA, its members, or anyone else including myself is responsible for what you do.
Please use this thread to talk about success or failure using this process if you do. Do not post links to anything or anything that would be frowned upon through XDA. If you want to you can always PM people for more details about things. Not saying everyone bombard me with PM's. I will answer but i also have a normal life and don't want people upset if i don't respond.
Please also note that unlocking the bootloader will wipe your device clean. This includes storage.
If you want more detailed instructions - Go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/verizon-moto-maker-bootloader-unlock-t2680651
Good Luck
UPDATE: IMAGES ATTACHED, I HAVE BEEN UNLOCKED. Sorry for the blurry cam pics, only had a work iPod touch that i could snap quick pictures with
As tempting as this is, I'll likely not opt for it. This phone is not a lifelong device, which, coincidentally, also temps me to, and not to do it. Naw, too risky.
fat-fingered and Maxx-ed out.
My concern is what will be done with all these imei numbers that are collected. It's not like they can't be stolen by company employees before the phone is ever bought... I think the big question would be what is the WORST that could happen by providing your imei if you can prove you legally purchased the device
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I did option 2 yesterday. Just waiting on the codes now. I will update once I get the file and have the BL unlocked.
rmjones2006 said:
My concern is what will be done with all these imei numbers that are collected. It's not like they can't be stolen by company employees before the phone is ever bought... I think the big question would be what is the WORST that could happen by providing your imei if you can prove you legally purchased the device
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Yea thats the big risk. the other thing to think about to is that at any given time any employee has access to all the IMEI stickers on the boxes. all it takes is 1 person to screw around and thats that. im willing to take the risk for right now. if it works YAY...if not then well i'll get a refund and then probably dump the phone for a new one when something else comes out.
And this thread is the reason this method will not last very long.
People don't seem to understand, talking and making threads about such things in the open cuts down the time things like this are available.
Droid Maxx "Developer Edition"
Franzie3 said:
***THIS METHOD INVOLVES PURCHASING A SERVICE AND PROVIDING YOUR DEVICES IMEI NUMBER****
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May I make a suggestion that you remove the service details - name, origin. Etc. For both methods And request people PM you instead? Pretty please??
The more we keep private the longer this will last.
I am happy that, hopefully, this will no longer consume other threads anymore.
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Cmon, IMEI is not a secret code you can use to get full access to your phone or something else. It is written on the label of the box of very droid. This way any janitor in Verizon store has an access to the vital information. Seriously? You can generate all droids IMEI on your own, rules are known:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Mobile_Station_Equipment_Identity
Topsnake said:
And this thread is the reason this method will not last very long.
People don't seem to understand, talking and making threads about such things in the open cuts down the time things like this are available.
Droid Maxx "Developer Edition"
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It was done to unclog the clutter in the root bounty thread. I tried to be very bland with explaining it.
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CarnivoreMatt said:
May I make a suggestion that you remove the service details - name, origin. Etc. For both methods And request people PM you instead? Pretty please??
The more we keep private the longer this will last.
I am happy that, hopefully, this will no longer consume other threads anymore.
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Made some edits.... On mobile now so if you want pm me your thoughts and I'll edit when I get back to work
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In one thread, the seller pleaded with the OP to shut down the thread..just PM's please..
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XT1028 (aka) Moto-G
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i don t know why but i have a sentiment that someone hiding something...
XDA or that cinese guy who have a method and don twant the 2500 $ or more....
danger2u said:
i don t know why but i have a sentiment that someone hiding something...
XDA or that cinese guy who have a method and don twant the 2500 $ or more....
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One would make a lot more money selling individual unlocks. 60+ sales would cover that. And think of other phones that use this method too. And likely not an exploit that can be released. But maybe a method that should be kept quiet
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danger2u said:
i don t know why but i have a sentiment that someone hiding something...
XDA or that cinese guy who have a method and don twant the 2500 $ or more....
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Stop just please stop this nonsense. No one is hiding anything what this guy is doing has nothing to do with the bounty. And no one on XDA is hiding anything stop trolling. Either participate or don't but stop with stupid conspiracy theories. I'm tired of all the haters if you don't feel comfortable then don't do it. Were all big boys here and can make up our own minds.
All you ones needing can communicate everything one needs to know, just with PM's only..maybe post results in a simple yes or no, success or not in the thread..if anyone has a question for another..then just click on that ones ID and communicate that way..never giving a clue here..but it certainly is to late for not "spilling the beans" but as of out of respect for that ones request..make the thread unclear to what is happening..or delete it..
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NWKENT said:
All you ones needing can communicate everything one needs to know, just with PM's only
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Note that the OP did remove all mention of anything (I.e. sources) from the original post and specifically stated PM someone.
Seems pretty reasonable to me now.
I agree with using this only to report non specific results as well.
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The OP in its self is a giveaway..that should be included in a PM..
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I'm not sure what we are or aren't saying here so I'll just say that I received what I need to unlock my bootloader today, I'm at work unfortunately so I'll have to give it a try when I get home but I will post success or failure. Any questions I suppose you can PM me and I'll answer as soon as I can.
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OMGoodness..people don't care about others..as long as they get what they want..kick the others into the sideditch that need what that one has..my point is proven in the above post..
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Please donate to: jcase & Hashcode (if you can)
I have used the unlock code from the seller. It 100% works. I did refresh my phone which I didn't want to happen. Bad news is he informed me that he is getting out of selling the unlock codes and asked that I not share is information. I will respect his wishes. IDK if there are other people willing to sell the codes.
Hey,
Sorry, I know this thread will probably be irrelevant, but it just occurred to me. I have a Western Note 4 (I'll keep country vague just for my own protection). I'm very technical and a massive Android Power User, but not a Dev. But if there is any use in me doing a system dump or anything, I'm happy to do it, with a little guidance.
Feel free to ask any Qs etc,
No, just send me the whole phone.
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Hey,
Sorry, I know this thread will probably be irrelevant, but it just occurred to me. I have a Western Note 4 (I'll keep country vague just for my own protection). I'm very technical and a massive Android Power User, but not a Dev. But if there is any use in me doing a system dump or anything, I'm happy to do it, with a little guidance.
Feel free to ask any Qs etc,
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Hi, this is a very new phone and I really need info from it. If you don't mind please install this Phone INFO ★Samsung★ app and send (PM or email) me screenshots from it.
I also need your help to test the function 'Refurbishment Check' (under the Menu).
Thanks for your time.
I find it quite funny that you're not telling us the country for security reasons.
If you're worried about it being a 'leak', the phone has been on official sale in the Netherlands since the 16th. Don't worry.
If you're worried about us finding out where you're from, you might want to remove the 'London, UK' from your profile.
Any chance you could send me the entire phone? No? Awwwww....
ShadowLea said:
I find it quite funny that you're not telling us the country for security reasons.
If you're worried about it being a 'leak', the phone has been on official sale in the Netherlands since the 16th. Don't worry.
If you're worried about us finding out where you're from, you might want to remove the 'London, UK' from your profile.
Any chance you could send me the entire phone? No? Awwwww....
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Maybe s/he will give you it in exchange for locating things on his computer? Or a discount for your opinion of his/her digital organisation?
Again, as per your arrogant opinions about my computers and me, you assume too much. Why should s/he be in London because of a profile/avatar? Mine says "Gelderd End, 1974". I am not there. It doesn't even exist anymore. And only people with a working knowledge of football stadia 40 years ago - or with enough interest to Google it - would have the slightest inkling to what I'm referring to...
I contacted the moderator:
I have the strangest suspicion that this member, kp263 was trying a scam on me. I posted a message regarding help to fix my bricked LG D858HK, and kp263 contacted me by private messaging requesting. After I sent my number, I received a message, saying; I'm always offline on WhatsApp. I responded; I normally turn my phone off 12.00 am to 8.00 am UK time because I don't want to be disturb at those times when sleeping, but I'm available all the other times. I also mentioned; I'm using another phone, as the LG is bricked (of course). I started to get suspicious and asked; how are you going to repair phone in the UK when you're in India? But, I didn't get a reply, so I contact him again. So he informed me that was away for a few days.
Could this member have been leading me on to a scam? Check this member out - could be dangerous...! But Moderator doesn't seem to be concerned...
Moderator's comments: Cannot act on speculation. Add member to your ignore list and seek reputable verified help in the future.
My response to moderator:
Speculation!? As a moderator, you don't seem to be concerned regarding the safety of users on your site! This dude wanted to gain access and control my PC and could have stolen information via a piece of software he wanted me to install, and you're not concern about that!? Or, could it be that he may be connected with you/your site?
The problem is with my phone, so why did he wanted to access my PC? Why didn't he send me the instruction by private message (like I asked him to), or better yet, publicly, so that others can see, who may be experiencing same or similar problems, so they can refer it his cure? Why didn't he respond to several questions...I'd put to him regarding my concern of him accessing my PC?
If you're not going to check him out, I'll have to make this public so that others can be aware of this
Soundboy said:
I contacted the moderator:
I have the strangest suspicion that this member, kp263 was trying a scam on me. I posted a message regarding help to fix my bricked LG D858HK, and kp263 contacted me by private messaging requesting. After I sent my number, I received a message, saying; I'm always offline on WhatsApp. I responded; I normally turn my phone off 12.00 am to 8.00 am UK time because I don't want to be disturb at those times when sleeping, but I'm available all the other times. I also mentioned; I'm using another phone, as the LG is bricked (of course). I started to get suspicious and asked; how are you going to repair phone in the UK when you're in India? But, I didn't get a reply, so I contact him again. So he informed me that was away for a few days.
Could this member have been leading me on to a scam? Check this member out - could be dangerous...! But Moderator doesn't seem to be concerned...
Moderator's comments: Cannot act on speculation. Add member to your ignore list and seek reputable verified help in the future.
My response to moderator:
Speculation!? As a moderator, you don't seem to be concerned regarding the safety of users on your site! This dude wanted to gain access and control my PC and could have stolen information via a piece of software he wanted me to install, and you're not concern about that!? Or, could it be that he may be connected with you/your site?
The problem is with my phone, so why did he wanted to access my PC? Why didn't he send me the instruction by private message (like I asked him to), or better yet, publicly, so that others can see, who may be experiencing same or similar problems, so they can refer it his cure? Why didn't he respond to several questions...I'd put to him regarding my concern of him accessing my PC?
If you're not going to check him out, I'll have to make this public so that others can be aware of this
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you should never give out your number and install software you don't know what it does.
Use common sense, you made a mistake to give out your number and if you installed software you don't know what it does nobody else to blame but yourself.
Sorry to sound harsh but you need to be careful what you do as well and protect yourself
DJ_MiX said:
you should never give out your number and install software you don't know what it does.
Use common sense, you made a mistake to give out your number and if you installed software you don't know what it does nobody else to blame but yourself.
Sorry to sound harsh but you need to be careful what you do as well and protect yourself
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I'm sure there are novices that use this site that doesn't know the risks... But, I'm not a novice as far as the internet is concerned. I know the dangers and this why I didn't download the software and questioned the dude.
So I'm in a jam with my phone and asked for some genuine help and was hoping I would get it in return, at least so I thought. These scammers should look into by the moderator/s and not ignored but rooted out; because not everyone would be aware of this sort of practice on xda, and is not a matter of common sense. Are you saying you've never given a stranger your mobile number? I sure you have. So where is your common sense that? :silly:
Soundboy said:
I contacted the moderator:
I have the strangest suspicion that this member, kp263 was trying a scam on me. I posted a message regarding help to fix my bricked LG D858HK, and kp263 contacted me by private messaging requesting. After I sent my number, I received a message, saying; I'm always offline on WhatsApp. I responded; I normally turn my phone off 12.00 am to 8.00 am UK time because I don't want to be disturb at those times when sleeping, but I'm available all the other times. I also mentioned; I'm using another phone, as the LG is bricked (of course). I started to get suspicious and asked; how are you going to repair phone in the UK when you're in India? But, I didn't get a reply, so I contact him again. So he informed me that was away for a few days.
Could this member have been leading me on to a scam? Check this member out - could be dangerous...! But Moderator doesn't seem to be concerned...
Moderator's comments: Cannot act on speculation. Add member to your ignore list and seek reputable verified help in the future.
My response to moderator:
Speculation!? As a moderator, you don't seem to be concerned regarding the safety of users on your site! This dude wanted to gain access and control my PC and could have stolen information via a piece of software he wanted me to install, and you're not concern about that!? Or, could it be that he may be connected with you/your site?
The problem is with my phone, so why did he wanted to access my PC? Why didn't he send me the instruction by private message (like I asked him to), or better yet, publicly, so that others can see, who may be experiencing same or similar problems, so they can refer it his cure? Why didn't he respond to several questions...I'd put to him regarding my concern of him accessing my PC?
If you're not going to check him out, I'll have to make this public so that others can be aware of this
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Do you mean this user https://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=7532374 ?
Do you have any idea how many accusations are made similar to this on this site of almost 8 million users? So YES we need proof of wrong doing. The message you reported was a simple Whatsapp request. No where did he ask for access to your computer. He did suggest he could fix your problem with Teamviewer. Generally these members are not scammers but are trying to sell you their repair service. When we have proof of attempted sales, then the accounts are removed.
Thank you for bringing this member to our attention and adding to our investigation already in progress.
Have a nice day.
KennyG123 said:
Do you mean this user https://forum.xda-developers.com/member.php?u=7532374 ?
Do you have any idea how many accusations are made similar to this on this site of almost 8 million users? So YES we need proof of wrong doing. The message you reported was a simple Whatsapp request. No where did he ask for access to your computer. He did suggest he could fix your problem with Teamviewer. Generally these members are not scammers but are trying to sell you their repair service. When we have proof of attempted sales, then the accounts are removed.
Thank you for bringing this member to our attention and adding to our investigation already in progress.
Have a nice day.
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This dude was shady... If I wasn't alert and aware of these type of scams and fraud, I would have let him have his wicked way and could have scammed me. I not gonna deal with someone in India when am in the UK and especially the way he wanted me too. No way!
As a good and responsible citizen and trying to help to stomp out scamming and fraud, my original message to you was to make you aware of the situation..., but your replied was sarcastically... When I get scamming emails and forward them on to the banks, etc, they thank me for informing them - unlike you. Your statement above (Thank you for bringing this member...) would have been just nice in the first place. There is another guy on your team (who was very nice - not sarcastic) that I sent the message to in the first place but he instructed me to contact the moderator because he didn't deal with that area. So, it seems that there are nice guys amongst you all.
Soundboy said:
This dude was shady... If I wasn't alert and aware of these type of scams and fraud, I would have let him have his wicked way and could have scammed me. I not gonna deal with someone in India when am in the UK and especially the way he wanted me too. No way!
As a good and responsible citizen and trying to help to stomp out scamming and fraud, my original message to you was to make you aware of the situation..., but your replied was sarcastically... When I get scamming emails and forward them on to the banks, etc, they thank me for informing them - unlike you. Your statement above (Thank you for bringing this member...) would have been just nice in the first place. There is another guy on your team (who was very nice - not sarcastic) that I sent the message to in the first place but he instructed me to contact the moderator because he didn't deal with that area. So, it seems that there are nice guys amongst you all.
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Sure...but as I said...they generally try to sell you a service under the radar of XDA moderators because selling of anything on this site is not allowed except in the paid app section. That is the shady part. We remove these types daily once we get evidence of them asking for money. The repair is usually legitimate. Thanks for adding to our evidence against this member.
So others thank you and do nothing, but I tell you we need evidence and then do something...which would you prefer. By the way I am still awaiting an answer to that PM.
@Soundboy There are many legitimate people out there that will help people through teamviewer out of the kindness of their heart. So next time present more evidence than a Whatsapp request and offer to go on teamviewer. Back in the Epic 4G days of 2011 I helped someone through it and know of another good friend that helped members through teamviewer all day long and only for whatever they wanted to donate to him, even if it was nothing. So your paranoia was insufficient to act on without evidence.
I 100% agree with @DJ_MiX . I can't believe I have to say this, but, this world is full of nefarious people out to do you harm. If you expect any website to be able to protect you from every single user, you are in for a shock. Welcome to the internet. :highfive:
Receiving a private message instead of answering your question publicly in the forums should have been a large red flag and warning sirens for you. That's like getting cold called at your house and the person asking for financial information.
These forums are not for one-on-one help. They are for public questions, answers, and discussions so that everyone benefits. I personally would only use private messaging with users who have a long history on the forums. And even then, there's rarely a reason to do so.
You seem nice and you seem like you mean well, just be vigilant and do your due diligence whenever possible. Evil folks prey on the naive. I will personally not be able to help you out with your particular issue, but good luck!
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KennyG123 said:
@Soundboy There are many legitimate people out there that will help people through teamviewer out of the kindness of their heart. So next time present more evidence than a Whatsapp request and offer to go on teamviewer. Back in the Epic 4G days of 2011 I helped someone through it and know of another good friend that helped members through teamviewer all day long and only for whatever they wanted to donate to him, even if it was nothing. So your paranoia was insufficient to act on without evidence.
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Maybe paranoia... But you haven't seen my messages I sent to him via Whatsapp, asking for his legitimacy... But of no surprise, he didn't respond to them.
AlwaysLucky said:
I 100% agree with @DJ_MiX . I can't believe I have to say this, but, this world is full of nefarious people out to do you harm. If you expect any website to be able to protect you from every single user, you are in for a shock. Welcome to the internet. :highfive:
Receiving a private message instead of answering your question publicly in the forums should have been a large red flag and warning sirens for you. That's like getting cold called at your house and the person asking for financial information.
These forums are not for one-on-one help. They are for public questions, answers, and discussions so that everyone benefits. I personally would only use private messaging with users who have a long history on the forums. And even then, there's rarely a reason to do so.
You seem nice and you seem like you mean well, just be vigilant and do your due diligence whenever possible. Evil folks prey on the naive. I will personally not be able to help you out with your particular issue, but good luck!
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I'm always aware and suspicious about private messages, emails, letters and phone calls I get from people I don't know offering their services, e.g. like paying upfront. I always tell them to take a hike! I get them all the time; even from these pretty-young-nice-figure-babes on facebook. It's like; "You're a gorgeous babe; but why you want to friend an old fart like me, old enough to be your granddad or even your great grandad?" They're gone, man! So yes; I'm an internet savvy and on the money! :highfive:
My initial message was only to make you guys aware... I do it all the time; forwarding suspicious contacts to Banks, PayPal, Facebook and Action Fraud. I'm only just trying to make the world a bit safer
Respond to your PM
KennyG123 said:
Sure...but as I said...they generally try to sell you a service under the radar of XDA moderators because selling of anything on this site is not allowed except in the paid app section. That is the shady part. We remove these types daily once we get evidence of them asking for money. The repair is usually legitimate. Thanks for adding to our evidence against this member.
So others thank you and do nothing, but I tell you we need evidence and then do something...which would you prefer. By the way I am still awaiting an answer to that PM.
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Regarding your PM... I've already responded to it yesterday via reply to the email. But since it seems you haven't received it, here it is again: I did google Teamviewer...and that is why I didn't download it to my PC. And yes, I do get lots of Prince in Nigeria..., etc, etc and phone calls too but I don't fall for them. So no, not foolish. I'm not new to the internet but on your site. In fact, I'm a savvy on the internet and know of the dangers.
The account countfox: because when I first join I made a spelling mistake with my username and after about 4 times of asking Brendon to edited he failed to deal with it, so I set up another account. But it was changed by another person in the end after I contacted him. So, I kept on using Soundboy because my message was already on it. If there was a way for me to edit or delete them myself I would have done so instead of relying on you guys. Anyway, you can delete both of them because they no use to me now.
Cheers!