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Anyone actually use the Genius button on a regular basis ?
Anyone else find it to be a stupid useless waste of space like I do ?
Discuss/your thoughts on it.
we have a Genius Button??? i havent even touch it once! USELESS for me, would love to find a way to remove the function and put something else that is usefull.
There is a thread in the dev section IIRC on how to remap it. I've tried it a few times, but it does not seem entirely useful or time saving.
I used it in the car when running stock. At the moment I'm using cm7 and it's mapped to Google Voice Search, which is similar in capability.
HTC Glacier running CM7 #28
Never used it while I was stock. In CM I have it remaped.
going_home said:
Anyone actually use the Genius button on a regular basis ?
Anyone else find it to be a stupid useless waste of space like I do ?
Discuss/your thoughts on it.
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I used it to quickly while in the car call someone over bluetooth...but since i switched roms too desire HD rom I dont have that luxury anymore =_(
I use it in CM7 for Google Search.
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I use the hands free mode all the time. Since I learned you can use it to open apps, change settings and more, I've used it a lot more, I just wish it wasn't so slow. It would be my favorite app if it was faster!
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Anyone actually use the Genius button on a regular basis ?
Anyone else find it to be a stupid useless waste of space like I do ?
Discuss/your thoughts on it.
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I use the Genius button fairly often and allthough you are entitled to your opinion, it is not a stupid useless waste of space. It is a nice app with alot of function.
msong06 said:
we have a Genius Button??? i havent even touch it once! USELESS for me, would love to find a way to remove the function and put something else that is usefull.
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There are plenty of ways to remove it and you can actually use that button to open any app you want. Interested in how? Check out the button mod thread in my signature.
Genocaust said:
There is a thread in the dev section IIRC on how to remap it. I've tried it a few times, but it does not seem entirely useful or time saving.
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There are threads in the dev section and app section here in the MT4G forum that tell you how to do it or do it for you. Remapping the button can be extremely usefull and time saving. Interested how? See the button mod thread in my sig.
nexus9988 said:
I used it to quickly while in the car call someone over bluetooth...but since i switched roms too desire HD rom I dont have that luxury anymore =_(
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You can add Genius to any Desire HD rom and most other roms by visiting my thread HERE or HERE
CyberStorm98 said:
I use the hands free mode all the time. Since I learned you can use it to open apps, change settings and more, I've used it a lot more, I just wish it wasn't so slow. It would be my favorite app if it was faster!
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If you are having a problem with it verifying your contact list often try this:
When it activates and asks you to speak push the menu button. It will pull up the Settings and from there you can turn off the contact verification by going into Phonebook Updates and selecting manual. Or make some other adjustments to help speed it up a little.
I tried it and it worked well, but it takes 20 seconds for it to startup initially, and isn't very fast even after that.
So I remapped the keys so a press gives me search and a press-hold gives me voice search instead of the Genius Button app. Now I use it and find it useful. I'm tempted to see if I can turn it into a dialer button so I can always get to the phone app, since this is a phone....
using it to activate google voice search is better for me.
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I tried it and it worked well, but it takes 20 seconds for it to startup initially, and isn't very fast even after that.
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Dude, what are you talking about? It dont take more than one second to open. I press the button and it opens just as fast as google voice search would. You need to go into Settings/Phonebook Updates and set it to manual. Then it wont try to update your contacts every few times you use it.
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There are threads in the dev section and app section here in the MT4G forum that tell you how to do it or do it for you. Remapping the button can be extremely usefull and time saving. Interested how? See the button mod thread in my sig.
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To clarify: I did not mean to infer the threads on how to remap the button were not helpful or time saving, but rather that I do not find the button very helpful or time saving for my own use.
I always use google voice in the car. Works great!!!!
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Dude, what are you talking about? It dont take more than one second to open. I press the button and it opens just as fast as google voice search would. You need to go into Settings/Phonebook Updates and set it to manual. Then it wont try to update your contacts every few times you use it.
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When we mentioned it taking forever to open, we weren't talking about the contact list updates. Mine has been on manual since I bought the phone. The app opens right away, but it doesn't actually start listening for commands, for at least 30 seconds, if not sometimes more. It isn't scanning or doing anything else you can turn off, it's just VERY laggy to start listening.
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When we mentioned it taking forever to open, we weren't talking about the contact list updates. Mine has been on manual since I bought the phone. The app opens right away, but it doesn't actually start listening for commands, for at least 30 seconds, if not sometimes more. It isn't scanning or doing anything else you can turn off, it's just VERY laggy to start listening.
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Hmmm...wierd, I dont have that problem at all. It starts listening as soon as I hit the button and the app opens. I even just tested it again and timed it with my stop watch.. From the time I longpress my button and it vibrates to open Genius it took 3.7 seconds for it to open and say "listening", me say "open rom manager" and it repeated it back to me and opened it. That is total time from the button press to when Rom Manager was actually open.
I am not sure what rom you guys are running or if you are rooted or not but if it is taking 5, 10, or 20 seconds for it to accept a command from you, then u got something going on. I am on CM7.
I am not here to argue with anyone over the opinion of a app. To each his own. But what I dont like to see is someone calling a app a useless waste of space, when it isn't. It is just like any other app, some people use and like it and some dont.
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Hmmm...wierd
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"weird", not "wierd".
...it took 3.7 seconds...total time
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Mine took:
20 seconds the first time, 4 seconds the second time (I found the shorter time didn't last all that long in actual use). Yes, I had it on the default setting of updating contacts automatically. I don't see why I should have to change a default and give up the functionality for it to work. Still, I changed the setting, since I don't care about it, and rebooted my phone. 2 seconds to prompt me. I tried to open "Timer" and it kept opening "Camera" but that's a different topic. Nice to know it can be reasonably fast (thank you for the tip!), but the Google voice search is faster still and lets me call all contacts, even new ones.
I am not sure what rom you guys are running or if you are rooted or not but if it is taking 5, 10, or 20 seconds for it to accept a command from you, then u got something going on. I am on CM7.
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No, *I* don't have something going on, the phone does. It did this from stock, it did this on several phones (I kept trying til I got a good screen), it does this rooted.
If the automatic update of contacts is so tough for it, it was a poorly chosen default, but it hardly constitutes my having something going on.
I am not here to argue with anyone over the opinion of a app. To each his own. But what I dont like to see is someone calling a app a useless waste of space, when it isn't. It is just like any other app, some people use and like it and some dont.
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You are getting way too worked up over this. He didn't say it is a "useless waste of space", he asked if anyone else found it to be a "useless waste of space like I do", which is quite different. Even so, it would clearly be his opinion.
I generally find the Genius Button app to be accurate, not withstanding the above, but the Google voice search does nearly as much and works out of the box. It isn't worth my time to re-edit the keys to bring the app back.
Please note, I said "my time", not "your time" or "everyone's time"
Anyone, I don't suppose there is a way to make the physical "genius" button a general 'Find' like it is on my wife's Droid X?
Google voice search seems too be more intuitive, less intrusive, and launches much faster in my opinion. I've remapped genius button to launch google voice search.
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hey excarnate,
1st...thanks for correcting my spelling
2nd...dont assume that I am worked up over something so trivial as if you or anyone else likes, wants to use or doesn't want to use a app. I could really care less and was only trying to let people know there are settings that can be adjusted to make it faster.
3rd...While I think that Google voice search works great I don't think it has all of the capabilities that Genius does but Genius has all of the ones that Voice search does. So to compare the two is a little harder than just saying that Google voice search is better because it is faster. Genius wins hands down when it comes to the amount of things it does in comparison to Google Voice search. Try telling Google voice search to "turn on wifi", "Open Settings", "turn of GPS"
4th...I am not sure what the "find" feature is on the droid phone but since you have taken the time to remap your genius button you can use the app called Button Shortcut (free in market) or Launchkey (free on xda) to open any other app with the long press of Genius/Search button.
Not sure why you decided to try and pick apart my post, but its all good.
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Heh, I have smilies adblocked so didn't notice til I hit reply. I'm just glad you didn't use "lol" as punctuation.
4th...I am not sure what the "find" feature is on the droid phone but since you have taken the time to remap your genius button you can use the app called Button Shortcut (free in market) or Launchkey (free on xda) to open any other app with the long press of Genius/Search button.
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Originally I used Button Shortcut to launch the Genius Button app, but after rooting my current phone (with a good screen!) I gave up on Genius Button. If I knew I could have turned off one of the defaults to make it perform acceptably, I would have made it the long press default. Maybe I still will, if I remap the button for any other reason.
Find, is simply find within the current app. If I'm in contacts, the find button lets you find something in contacts. If I'm in a webpage, I believe it lets one search in the webpage (I don't use her phone much so I'm not sure about this).
[mini rant about the contacts app on the MT4G deleted]
So my new take on the Genius Button is: it is worthless out-of-the-box. If your contacts are stable, disable automatic updates and only remap the long press (if desired). If your contacts aren't stable and are important, dump it for the Google search & voice search.
[New information: Even with manual updates of contacts it is very slow to start when on hands free (hands free mode or not). I plan to freeze it in Titanium Pro.]
Hi i hope you can help.
My mother has an xperia x10 which she recently updated from 2.1 to what is now 2.1 update 1.
A huge mistake, she now has a bunch of apps 'some charge for use' that she did not want. whats worse is they are all looked into the system and can not be removed, to top it all the 'restore to factory settings' option has also been removed from the android menu, presumably this was done during the so called update to stop you from removing the unwanted apps and who knows what els from the phone.
She and i are quite annoyed about this and there very behavior in that.
Is there another way to reset the phone back to how it was? we have tried the hold power button + left and right keys with no joy at all.
It has to be said this is the last Sony ericsson we and anyone we know will own.
please help, thank you
Root the phone and uninstall the annoying apps.
Thanks i will look into how to do that
Les1976 said:
Thanks i will look into how to do that
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The easiest way to root your phone is using Superoneclick. I used it several times, and no problems so far. Just posted this here so you don't have to search the forums.
Thank you, i have the phone rooted now how do i remove those apps?
Install the app 'Titanium Backup' from the market and use it to uninstall them by clicking the app in the list and press 'uninstall'
Sent From My *Super Fly X10*
If I (or anyone for that matter!) help you, dont be afraid to press THANKS!
Also, be careful what you remove! Some system apps are needed for your phone to function.
rogem_kk said:
Also, be careful what you remove! Some system apps are needed for your phone to function.
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Rule of thumb: only uninstall items that appear in the app drawer and if your not sure make a backup of the app first. If the app is a system app you'll get a warning before it deletes.
Sent From My *Super Fly X10*
If I (or anyone for that matter!) help you, dont be afraid to press THANKS!
It worked, those silly apps are gone.
Thanks for all your help guys. very kind or you. and yes its easy to forget about the thanks button i will use them.
hey guys, need some help. After upgrading to the new 2.3.4 my nexus s has the problem of unable to install apk files. When trying to install the app, i cannot press the install button. However, I can press the cancel button. It is weird. If I restart the phone then I can install one app and the problem occurs again.
Anyone know what is going on?
Thanks.
simaler problem
when trying to install app from SD i cannot press the install.
for a work around i use the adb to push install.
but do some one have any idea way is that?
Turn off screen filter. Safety mechanism i believe so rogue apps can't install what they please.
Harbb said:
Turn off screen filter. Safety mechanism i believe so rogue apps can't install what they please.
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WTF?! That worked...
Thank you for the solution! :-D
Screen Filter caused this issue on my SGS2 (GT-I9100M).
So very, very stupid. Epic fail; although, XDA is there to save me yet again.
I put it on last night and it seems to be working, although it hasn't been on long enough to start getting the helpful/creepy messages about traffic to work and such. I'm running the standard Touchwiz ICS rom, am on Verizon, and am rooted (but I don't think root is needed). Here's the link to the Google Now hack. He gives 3 ways to install it. The first one (with renaming) worked for me. I used Root Explorer to do the renaming and file moving.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1747224
The apk itself does not allow voice searching, only text entry. But now there's a free app in the Play Store that, once you have Google Now running, allows the voice search to work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1747224
It's not perfect yet. After you do a voice search, you have to press enter to get it to search. Also, you get a voice readout repetition of what you asked, but the answer is only in print, not read out loud. You also can't use the back key, once you've searched, to get back to do a new search. Nevertheless, very cool and functional. Oh, and once you do this, double-clicking the home key will no longer get you to S-Voice (which I appreciate, since it's next to useless).
Many thanks to SilentStormer for creating this for ICS and to Jan Gruncl for creating the voice search app.
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I put it on last night and it seems to be working, although it hasn't been on long enough to start getting the helpful/creepy messages about traffic to work and such. I'm running the standard Touchwiz ICS rom, am on Verizon, and am rooted (but I don't think root is needed). Here's the link to the Google Now hack. He gives 3 ways to install it. The first one (with renaming) worked for me. I used Root Explorer to do the renaming and file moving.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1747224
The apk itself does not allow voice searching, only text entry. But now there's a free app in the Play Store that, once you have Google Now running, allows the voice search to work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1747224
It's not perfect yet. After you do a voice search, you have to press enter to get it to search. Also, you get a voice readout repetition of what you asked, but the answer is only in print, not read out loud. You also can't use the back key, once you've searched, to get back to do a new search. Nevertheless, very cool and functional. Oh, and once you do this, double-clicking the home key will no longer get you to S-Voice (which I appreciate, since it's next to useless).
Many thanks to SilentStormer for creating this for ICS and to Jan Gruncl for creating the voice search app.
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Tried both the Google Now apk and the Voice search app. Work pretty well. It's a little awkward to press enter for the voice to take. But it's working fine otherwise. really nice to have Google Now... now!
The Voice Search app is at
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...xLDEsImN6LmpoZy5nb29nbGVub3d2b2ljZXNlYXJjaCJd
BTW, I also have the VZW GS3. And the 2nd method in the original post didn't work so I also used the 1st method to install Google Now.
when i press search it starts to listen but doesnt give me a chance to speak before turning off.
EDIT: Im able to speak to the app from google play
Awesome find man. Trying this now. :good:
Any way to have these cards show up as widgets? Would be useful especially the traffic one.
Hello harpdoc
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I'm running the standard Touchwiz ICS rom, am on Verizon, and am rooted
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Everyone in the room raises from their chairs:
- Hello harpdoc!
I am without root.
I tried to rename googlesearchbox.apk with ES File Explorer but it would not take the change. Will Root Explorer allow me to modify file names without root?
Thanks much.
Awesome work guys! Its working pretty close to perfectly now :highfive:
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michael.s.under said:
I am without root.
I tried to rename googlesearchbox.apk with ES File Explorer but it would not take the change. Will Root Explorer allow me to modify file names without root?
Thanks much.
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You cannot rename anything in /system without having root access.
Thanks silver spade. I read in a couple threads that this mod does not require root. Im not against rooting mind you, I just do not have the ability from where Im located. Does that mean that root is in fact required or am I missing something that will allow me to install this until I get root.
michael.s.under said:
Thanks silver spade. I read in a couple threads that this mod does not require root. Im not against rooting mind you, I just do not have the ability from where Im located. Does that mean that root is in fact required or am I missing something that will allow me to install this until I get root.
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Unfortunately, although OP states that root might not be required, based on the three sets of instructions given in the thread on how to install Google Now on our ICS devices I don't see a way to do it without root. Anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, I just don't know how you could rename anything in /system without being rooted.
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I put it on last night and it seems to be working, although it hasn't been on long enough to start getting the helpful/creepy messages about traffic to work and such. I'm running the standard Touchwiz ICS rom, am on Verizon, and am rooted (but I don't think root is needed). Here's the link to the Google Now hack. He gives 3 ways to install it. The first one (with renaming) worked for me. I used Root Explorer to do the renaming and file moving.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1747224
The apk itself does not allow voice searching, only text entry. But now there's a free app in the Play Store that, once you have Google Now running, allows the voice search to work.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1747224
It's not perfect yet. After you do a voice search, you have to press enter to get it to search. Also, you get a voice readout repetition of what you asked, but the answer is only in print, not read out loud. You also can't use the back key, once you've searched, to get back to do a new search. Nevertheless, very cool and functional. Oh, and once you do this, double-clicking the home key will no longer get you to S-Voice (which I appreciate, since it's next to useless).
Many thanks to SilentStormer for creating this for ICS and to Jan Gruncl for creating the voice search app.
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Thanks for this!
Just a note (because this distinction has been bugging me a lot recently):
Google Now refers to the cards and only the cards. They exist in the Google Search app, meaning there is no such thing as a "Google Now" app. Seeing all the YouTube videos about "Google Now vs Siri" makes my head explode, since they're actually comparing Voice Search to Siri.
Thanks for the heads up, OP! I thought we would need to be on JB for this to work.
Any way to tie the double home button click to Google Now voice search?
Samsung HAS to upgrade the S3 to 4.1 and add google now/voice to their phones instead of or along side s-voice. or better yet combine the 2 into something amazing.BEFORE iphone5 is released. they will lose alot of sales if they dont. just my opinion
I've been using my rooted nook simple touch glow for a week and have been pretty happy with it, but need to install either pocket or instapaper which are only on google play. I tried readability but it crashes on startup.
Anyone know if it's possible to install google play on the NTG running 1.1.5?
Is there any other manual way to install a google play app? I know how to install via adb, but no idea where to download the apk for an app I purchase.
If you install from this guide, at the end it shows how to enable the market / play:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1675706
Note that you cannot search the market from the rooted Nook for some reason. But there is an application that you can install to search the market. See here:
http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/20...arket-search-and-other-tips-and-tricks-video/
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I've been using my rooted nook simple touch glow for a week and have been pretty happy with it, but need to install either pocket or instapaper which are only on google play. I tried readability but it crashes on startup.
Anyone know if it's possible to install google play on the NTG running 1.1.5?
Is there any other manual way to install a google play app? I know how to install via adb, but no idea where to download the apk for an app I purchase.
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I have similar problem on accessing market place, it's stated should wait for one day, it's been over a few days now problem doesnt resolve by itselt. In fact you tube ceased to work now, it was okay when I first rooted it.
Did you do steps #4 and #5 in this guide?
http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/20...using-glownooter-includes-googles-app-market/
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Did you do steps #4 and #5 in this guide?
http://blog.the-ebook-reader.com/20...using-glownooter-includes-googles-app-market/
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Thanks for this. I thought of uninstall and reinstalling google apps and unfortunately deleted youtube altogether both the apk and reinstalled software. So I did a soft un-root again and it seems now it worked (after I had done step 4 & 5 as per your message).
Now I have market app that works, search function does not work. I will probably installed vending apk or did step 4 and 5 againg ( I think I spent more time fixing Nook touch than actually using it).
Btw, anyone knows how to make the side options on the right to appear (where one can choose home or adw launcher). For some reason it has disappearred. How do I get back from nook home reading screen to adw launcher now??
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Thanks for this. I thought of uninstall and reinstalling google apps and unfortunately deleted youtube altogether both the apk and reinstalled software. So I did a soft un-root again and it seems now it worked (after I had done step 4 & 5 as per your message).
Now I have market app that works, search function does not work. I will probably installed vending apk or did step 4 and 5 againg ( I think I spent more time fixing Nook touch than actually using it).
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I doubt that you'll get the marketplace search working, it is a known issue. Use the alternative search application mentioned in the article.
Btw, anyone knows how to make the side options on the right to appear (where one can choose home or adw launcher). For some reason it has disappearred. How do I get back from nook home reading screen to adw launcher now??
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That is the magic buttons application it needs to be running to get the buttons. Note that when the application is running but the menu is collapsed, that it is _very_ difficult at first to find and open it. Look closely at the middle of the right edge of the screen. There should be a very faint icon there. If so, then try to press the side of the _plastic_case_ where it meets the screen by jamming your fnger right between them, as if you are trying to pry the plastic case off. That is how I hit that button!
Once you have found button savior and are back in the ADW launcher, be sure to give @jeff_kz's NookTouchMods a try. You will be able to remap one of your quicknav buttons or the 'n' long press to take you back to ADW launcher - much better than button savior!
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Once you have found button savior and are back in the ADW launcher, be sure to give @jeff_kz's NookTouchMods a try. You will be able to remap one of your quicknav buttons or the 'n' long press to take you back to ADW launcher - much better than button savior!
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Kayaker, I've looked at these mods before, but I see no canonical information explaining exactly how to modify and install the mods. Is there some thread explaining this that I've been unable to find?
Thanks!
the end of button savior
dotancohen said:
Kayaker, I've looked at these mods before, but I see no canonical information explaining exactly how to modify and install the mods. Is there some thread explaining this that I've been unable to find?
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Its a fairly recent thread - perhas you hadn't seen it yet - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1991048
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Its a fairly recent thread - perhas you hadn't seen it yet - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1991048
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Thanks. Actually I had seen the thread but it looks like they are referring to things previously discussed, which I could not find. Perhaps I just need to download the files and play around, it might all become obvious. I am new to rooting and to the Nook, so I am a bit apprehensive to start diving in.