Hi all im new to the forum and have a few questions about rooting my xperia play and wondered if some of you in the know could help?...
im interested in using gingerbreak v1.20 to do the root, i have read the tutorial and understand most of it and from what i have read on the forums other XP users have had varied success.
my questions are...
1. my phone is on a vodaphone contract and im not sure if its sim locked (to that specific network) and does this effect the root?
2. my phone had some kind of update downloaded to its software from vodaphone about 1 week ago gingerbread 2.3.2 build number 3.0.A.2.184 other people with this version root ok?
3. so just to clarify i was wondering if that update ive had has hindered my chances of the rooting also if my phone being locked to a specific network (e.g vodaphone) is a problem?
4. last but not least, if my phone fails to reboot after the rooting process, how hard is it to put it back to original version? (like do i need more software to fix the failure or can i just remove the battery wait 30secs and itll be back to normal)?
i know these may seem very basic questions to u veteran rooters, but id like to get involved i just wanna have more knowledge myself before i jump in, and would appreciate your feedback, loving my xperia play and i want to improve it and not brick it
cheers in advance
I am with tmobile and also received the ota update before I rooted.
SIM lock doesn't effect root.
I can tell you that the update won't effect running Gingerbreak at all.
You shouldn't have any worries using Gingerbreak as is.
It is purely an apk and will either successfully root your device or will not.
This is the easiest method of rooting i've ever used.
I was an android n00b when I got my hero & had to go through the method of creating a gold card & reverting to an older build & flashing flashrec!
To be honest, now my play is rooted in probably won't even bother using custom roms in the future.
I did all that with my hero and am happy with the plays UI.
I just wanted root to free up more space.
I'd also recommend researching setinstalllocation2 on here.
Doing this natively installs everything to sd and is worth the time.
cheers for the speedy reply DeadlyDazza, yeah id like to remove some of the stock rubbish to free up some space i was also hoping to do a small overclock, is this possible with a basic root? using the android overclocking apps?
im still nervous about the reboot and it not coming back on :S
@DeadlyDazza did you use gingerbreak on an empty/formatted sd card like described in the tutorial or does it also work with a sd full of installed apps? ( i really dont want to delete all my apps and data)
cheers covux
I have a fair bit of installing custom Roms on Android phones and i can honestly say this -
Unless you are rooting the phone in order to help develop custom roms and tweaks there really is no point in rooting it at the current moment.
Gingerbread is excellent at managing apps and the Xperia Play is designed so that games run independently from your homescreen.
"Trimming the fat" will offer almost zero benefit at the moment.
My advice is to wait a while, let the experts put together some custom Roms and gain access to the Kernel, allowing us to overclock.
Until then, i do not see a reason to root at all.
Unless you just, like me, wants to get rid of bloatware and ads in various apps and other benefits with root access
+1 on liking the XP UI and don't want to flash and mod this phone as I did with my HTC desire hd
If you just want that, root it now and keep your locked bootloader and enjoy the XP as it is
Regards Dousan...
Rooting does have many benefits, which mine was to free up more space on a device that, although is designed for gamers, seems to fall very short of.
Also to use root enabled apps such as cache mate.
Apart from the space issues, which have now been resolved by rooting & setinstalllocation2, I'm more than happy with my Xperia Play.
Will I be saying the same in 6 months? Probably not, I'll probably be wanting a fresher feel.
But that depends on how much support SE give the Play (my last device was the Hero & HTC was very slow with their support).
In answer to the question about running Gingerbreak with blank sd.
I had a spare 8gig that I formatted & used.
I didn't want to risk losing any data & couldn't be bothered to back up the 14gig on my card.
Although I have heard a few people say that running Gingerbreak is completely safe & won't erase any data.
Didn't erase anything on my sdcard when I rooted my XP, would still recommend a backup before using gingerbreak I was just lazy and went ahead without doing a backup. Did one today...
Regards Dousan...
@DeadlyDazza, @Dousan thanks for the info, i think i will also use a spare blank sd.
dsswoosh said:
IXperia Play is designed so that games run independently from your homescreen.
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How exactly?
Whenever I navigate home away from a running game (such as to check a text) my XP shuts down the game.
DeadlyDazza said:
How exactly?
Whenever I navigate home away from a running game (such as to check a text) my XP shuts down the game.
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I read in one of the reviews/specs for the phone that the homescreen and gaming operate independently meaning that when you play games, the homescreen sits in another part of memory or works in another processing thread or something.
The point being made was that whatever app you have open in the homescreen, won't make your games stutter or lag when you are playing them.
Maybe an expert can clarify this.
As for your problem, i can say that something is wrong with your setup for your games to be unloaded out of memory and shutdown when you navigate to the homescreen.
I would imagine you have an appkiller that is setup to close all running apps when you navigate to the homescreen.
I can't stress the importance of not using app killers with the gingerbread o/s. They are not needed, they will not improve performance of the phone, they will not make you battery last longer.
In fact, app killers will make your battery last SHORTER on gingerbread, since you will be using alot more processing power to load and unload them.
I don't use any app-killers.
Do you navigate to your homescreen with the back button, the home button or holding the home button and selecting a new icon?
Ok I have just performed 3 tests.
1) Emulator test - had tiger genesis running playing sonic 2. Hit the home button and navigated instantly to home screen. Tiger genesis happily sits in the notification bar. Navigating back to tiger genesis sees it exactly as before I left it.
2) Playstation pocket game crash bandicoot - loaded the game and hit the hom
e key. Same as above. The game sits in the notification bar and returns to the exact state you left it in when you return back to it.
3) Xperia play game Backstab - loaded the game and hit the home key. The game did not sit in they notification bar, but reselecting the game from the xperia play menu put the game onscreen at the exact position I left it from.
I can not re-create your situation where navigating to the homescreen makes the game unload from memory.
I made his post on my xperia play btw and performed each test while making this post. My browser doesn' t even unload from memory.
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Do you navigate to your homescreen with the back button, the home button or holding the home button and selecting a new icon?
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Usually just by tapping the home button. I only hold home for hotswitching & only navigate back to quit.
DeadlyDazza said:
Usually just by tapping the home button. I only hold home for hotswitching & only navigate back to quit.
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So does it only happen with a certain game? All games?
What about apps?
I find it hard to believe that hitting the home key unloads anything from memory unless you have changed some major settings.
Using Xperia Play games.
If I go to home when playing or paused the game unloads.
Not changed any settings at all.
DeadlyDazza said:
Using Xperia Play games.
If I go to home when playing or paused the game unloads.
Not changed any settings at all.
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Ok try this and tell me what happens.
- Slide the phone open
- Load Bruce Lee
- Get into an actual fight
- Hit the home key
- Slide the phone down
- Slide the phone up
- Load Bruce Lee
After doing this, my game has paused, but is exactly where i left it. The game did not unload, and therefore did not reload. It was exactly as i left it.
If yours does not do the same, and you havn't changed any settings or are running any app killers, then i suggest you make sure you have the latest revision of firmware and try again.
Bruce Lee stays in memory ok.
Star Battalion & Dungeon Defenders quit as soon as you hit home.
DeadlyDazza said:
Bruce Lee stays in memory ok.
Star Battalion & Dungeon Defenders quit as soon as you hit home.
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I can confirm that Star Battalion stays in memory after i hit the home screen on my phone.
It shows identical behaviour as Bruce Lee.
When you hit home, and reload the game, the game has paused itself and when you unpause, the game is exaclty as when you left it.
Can't confirm Dungeon Defenders behavious since i do not own it.
If you continue experiencing problems, i would suggest you have faulty memory and request a handset replacement.
I lately looked into FPse and thought I would load up some childhood classics. Resident Evil 2 in particular. The game while running completely fine has a really annoying problem I have scoured the internet looking for info on said problem Re-installed the emulator completely and am just about to give up hope.
The problem that I am having is that any and all Menu's and inventory in the game scrolls incredibly fast, so fast that one tap of a button sends the in game cursor flying something 5 spaces away. This happens in the start menu as well so selecting a new game is a matter of pressing the button fast enough while its scrolling through. I have looked at various game play videos none of which seem to have this problem.
I am very sad.
I know that the S8 toggles some apps into "standby mode" to save energy when they haven't been used for a few minutes.
However, anyone can edit the list of apps that are being turned into standby and there's a few apps (mainly games) that I want to keep active.
Of course those games are not in my list but nevertheless they restart when I launch them agajn from the overview of active apps.
That sucks and I don't really get it.
I had a very cheap China phone with 1 GB RAM before my S8 and although I had about 10 apps opened, my games never restartet if I switched back over to them.
The S8 has 4 GB RAM, yet it restarts my games or is not capable of keeping them open.
Can I do something about that?
Pokémon GO is one of those games. I play it, press the home button, chat with Telegram, open the app overview to switch back to Pokémon and it starts over, showing me the NIANTIV logo and the loading screen.
Hi,
Today, I started seeing two weird things and have no idea if they are related.
- sometimes, while I am using any app like facebook, browser, or even dial, out of no where I see a black bar appearing at the top of the screen and at the bottom a hand icon appears beside the back button. I pressed this hand it showed me a message (game in progress swipe to unlock) as if I am playing a game in the game launcher.
- a pop up ad appears in the middle of the screen out of no where and I just close it.
I checked the recent app's, I got no clue, I didn't install any new app. the last one I have installed was a week ago.
I checked battery usage and didn't find anything suspicious.
any clue what is that?
Thanks,
i think its related to an app, did you install useless apps like clean master , antivirus , battery saver , speed booster etc etc? or check your downloaded stuff on a file manager, like apks or strange files, even if the app is not installed because sometimes on some websites there is suspicious stuff downloaded automatically
or try to do the big cleanup I mean delete everything you dont use anymore or dont need , maybe it can help
and check on settings/apps/3dots/special access /draw over other apps and see which apps are allowed to pop up and appear on top of other apps
robhug said:
i think its related to an app, did you install useless apps like clean master , antivirus , battery saver , speed booster etc etc? or check your downloaded stuff on a file manager, like apks or strange files, even if the app is not installed because sometimes on some websites there is suspicious stuff downloaded automatically
or try to do the big cleanup I mean delete everything you dont use anymore or dont need , maybe it can help
and check on settings/apps/3dots/special access /draw over other apps and see which apps are allowed to pop up and appear on top of other apps
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Thanks alot
I uninstalled a game called (Siberian survivor Winter 2) and the problem stopped happening.
a_k_gano said:
Thanks alot
I uninstalled a game called (Siberian survivor Winter 2) and the problem stopped happening.
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Happy to see that it helped when I install apps that don't come from Samsung, google, electronic arts etc , I mean developer I don't know , I always check on the settings/apps/ the concerned app or game, and see all of its permission to see if its normal for the app category. I mean a game that request access to camera,contact , dialer location storage.. display on top or change system preferences, you can uninstall because all of permissions are not hazardous but for a purpose and sometimes an app is just a pretext
Anyone else having any problems with their Game Launcher? It seems since the new look Launcher come to my phone i have an issue with sorting the order of the icons, i had 18 games installed and i always have them all set in a certain way, which stayed largely the same, but since installing the last 2 games they insist on both staying at the start of the launcher and won't let me move them both anywhere else within the launcher, i wanted to put newly installed games at the end but when i do so they just move back to the start. If i try to move other games that where on the phone before they still seem to move about fine and stay put. In the settings i have it set so that new games are supposed to go to the end of the launcher, so i am not sure why this is happening?
Is there a known issue does anyone know?
Thanks
James
no one else have this issue no?
Hello,
Same here with 4.1.05.8, but on Note 8.
Hi, I have since cleared the cache and data from the game launcher and it seems to have fixed the problem.
It works ! I lost my stats, but it works ! I hope next update will not break this again...
Thanks for you update