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I was wondering, If I did a system update for my Google Android, would it require Re-Activation via google?
I don't want to update if it requires one since my Google Android Phone isn't on a data plan. I activated via Wi-Fi. Or is there an alternative to update, and not have to re-activate.
PS: While on my Google Android phone, there was a message pop-up saying that there was an update available ( I have RC29-[ or lower, not sure exactly] ) && By System Update, I mean the actual Firmware(OS)
Thanks in advance.
if your plan on modding your phone...hold off on the update...keep denying it for now....read the forum why....
Oh ok. Thanks.
teflon252 said:
if your plan on modding your phone...hold off on the update...keep denying it for now....read the forum why....
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There is code in the OTA script that will apply the update without your consent if you decline a certain number of times. If your running a version lower than RC30, your best bet is to delete the OTA Certificate ASAP so the update script fails whenever it tries to run.
As for the OP's question: It depends on what update your trying to apply. an OTA update from Google will not do a factory reset, but some homebrew (such as themes for example) will reset your device to factory.
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Oh. Yikes.
I have denied it about 10 times now.
How do I delete the OTA script?
I don't want to lose homebrew options.
Now that you bring this up, how do I install homebrew & Themes?
Sk8erAndroid said:
Oh. Yikes.
I have denied it about 10 times now.
How do I delete the OTA script?
I don't want to lose homebrew options.
Now that you bring this up, how do I install homebrew & Themes?
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You have to have a MOD RC installed (preserves root). The instructions and the method for applying fonts and themes are in the other sub-forums.
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Sk8erAndroid said:
Oh. Yikes.
I have denied it about 10 times now.
How do I delete the OTA script?
I don't want to lose homebrew options.
Now that you bring this up, how do I install homebrew & Themes?
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go to the android development portion of this forum, one of the first stickies is modded firmware updates. follow the instructions and you will be good to go. do it quick before google takes your root away!
Hi,
today my Tf101 (still HC 3.2) prompted me to install firmware update (I guess ICS).
I pressed Postpone(3) to 1 day and after 5 minute he re-prompt me; I (stupid like hom) re-pressed Postpone(2) and now I see Postpone(1)
I DON'T WANT to install ICS because I'm starting to a trip and I need the tablet is perfectly working like it is now !!
How can avoid and be sure that he auto-installs the update ? (and also that he continue to prompt me...)?
Do you know where is located and what's the name of the (.bin?) file that he downloaded from FOTA and he's ready to install ?
I would like to delete them (even if he would re-download) to be sure nothing happens.
Thanks in advance
Sandro
If you do a factory reset before update to ICS, you most likely won't have problems.
ICS is great, and did you only JUST get the update? It's been here for a couple of weeks now.
Being rooted may be the only way to stop it...(to change or delete files in system).
horndroid said:
If you do a factory reset before update to ICS, you most likely won't have problems.
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is there a guide/faq how to backup/restore ( paid apps, ebooks, apps settings/preferences, etc) before reset ?
thx
No_u said:
ICS is great, and did you only JUST get the update? It's been here for a couple of weeks now.
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don't know it takes so long... but I was sooo happy before today!!
sandroriz said:
is there a guide/faq how to backup/restore ( paid apps, ebooks, apps settings/preferences, etc) before reset ?
thx
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You do not want to restore hc Apps to ics. Just reinstall them..
It takes minutes to let google reinstall apps.....
In order to do it, you have to be rooted. Then install the Droidwall app, which enables Android's built-in firewall capabilities. I block everything from accessing the Internet by default unless I explicitly choose to give an app permission, which is "whitelisting." If you are fine with how your apps run pre-Droidwall, then you should do the opposite and allow Internet access by default unless you choose not to, which is "blacklisting." On some other Android tablets, the firmware updater is an entry by itself on Droidwall, which makes it easy to block. On the Transformer though, it is lumped with a bunch of other stuff in the entry labeled "Android System, Key Chain, Settings Storage, Settings, System UI, VPN Dialogs, App Backup, CMClient, DMClient, com.asus.keyboard, App Locker, ASUS Task Manager, Google Backup Transport," which means, in order to block the updater from checking for firmware updates, you have to block Internet access for all those other items as well. That happens to be okay with me. If it's okay with you, then go ahead and restrict that entry from accessing the Internet. The updater will then no longer be able to phone home and check if an update is available, and therefore it will always tell you that there are no updates available. If you want to reverse this, simply allow Internet access again for that Droidwall entry.
I think the main problem is : "out of Rooting your TF, there's no way not to update".
It is rather idiot as it's been quite clear the ICS updates are not as stable as one would want them to.
So why force every customers having a product that has been rendered unstable, when it worked smoothly before.
I do consider my TF far more stable under HC than ICS.
Freeze dmclient.apk if your rooted
Should work
kool
If you really don't want to root you can go to Settings>Applications>Manage Applications>All>DMClient>Clear Data and it will go away BUT it will come back once the app restarts and the TF checks for updates again & you'll have to repeat the process.
You could-
HTC 123 said:
Freeze dmclient.apk if your rooted
Should work
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Freezing dmclient in Titanium Backup Pro or a similar app will keep updates from coming back. But you do have to root for it to work...
why can't you guys just press the back button to avoid the update?
Now, the question is, how to block the update prompt entirely?
I am on 4.2.2 and my security settings no longer works on my unlocked and rooted Nexus 4. It crashes each time I try to access.
It may have started after I installed my Gotcha Facetrap app. I can access part of the security tab (passwords only) through the facetrap app but can not get to the rest of the security items.
I have tried to uninstall the app and reboot but to no avail.
All I really want to do is enable the install from unknown locations.
Anybody have some ideas how to fix? Maybe through adb? I hate to wipe and reinstall everything.
Looking forward to suggestions and ideas.
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I found that compared to my Nexus 7, which is working fine, the Nexus 4 has all the Device Administration area greyed out when I access it through the Gotcha app. Any idea how to get Device Administration rights back?
srfox said:
I am on 4.2.2 and my security settings no longer works on my unlocked and rooted Nexus 4. It crashes each time I try to access.
It may have started after I installed my Gotcha Facetrap app. I can access part of the security tab (passwords only) through the facetrap app but can not get to the rest of the security items.
I have tried to uninstall the app and reboot but to no avail.
All I really want to do is enable the install from unknown locations.
Anybody have some ideas how to fix? Maybe through adb? I hate to wipe and reinstall everything.
Looking forward to suggestions and ideas.
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I found that compared to my Nexus 7, which is working fine, the Nexus 4 has all the Device Administration area greyed out when I access it through the Gotcha app. Any idea how to get Device Administration rights back?
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I dont know how to bring the Security settings back except flash a rom :|
Just wait a little more and someone may help you.
But if you have to flash a ROM and dont want to reinstall everything, why dont you try Titanium backup? Then copy your apps' data to your computer (such as games because gaames' data is heavy).
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I dont know how to bring the Security settings back except flash a rom :|
Just wait a little more and someone may help you.
But if you have to flash a ROM and dont want to reinstall everything, why dont you try Titanium backup? Then copy your apps' data to your computer (such as games because gaames' data is heavy).
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Dummy me, I found it right here on XDA. Worked perfect.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2150392
After recent system updates my device is sluggish and unbearable to use. I wanted to do factory reset however I have all my movie on the internal storage. I tried moving it to my portable hard drive but ES would not let . is there a way for me to move the movie to my hard drive without root?
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Not sure if it'll work, but try connecting shield to your PC.
toanau said:
After recent system updates my device is sluggish and unbearable to use. I wanted to do factory reset however I have all my movie on the internal storage. I tried moving it to my portable hard drive but ES would not let . is there a way for me to move the movie to my hard drive without root?
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I had to root to enable it. Although I read somewhere that you can do it on the 1.4 firmware without root.
Set up an FTP server on your computer temporairly then connect withh ES file explorer to that and move them that way. I very much recommend rooting, and using trimmer (root application in the play store) as that makes the device as fast as day 1.
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I had to root to enable it. Although I read somewhere that you can do it on the 1.4 firmware without root.
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I already tried it with the new update. Couldn't move it. Thanks
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kdb424 said:
Set up an FTP server on your computer temporairly then connect withh ES file explorer to that and move them that way. I very much recommend rooting, and using trimmer (root application in the play store) as that makes the device as fast as day 1.
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When u root the device. doesn't it wipe the device first?
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toanau said:
When u root the device. doesn't it wipe the device first?
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I didn't check as I rooted mine before I ever booted it, but for most devices yes. That being said, rooting isn't what causes it to lose data, it's the fact that you have to unlock the device (fastboot oem unlock), which wipes it for user security on most devices. I would highly suggest backing it up via some method, I like FPT server, or you can probably mount it with the OTG cable. Once rooted, yes, you woid your warenty (for software, if it bricks, most campanies cover it), but then you have the control to fix things yourself. For example, the 1.4 update bricked many devices, so you can manually block updates with root, along with trimming drives to gain speed. Android 4.2 and higher is supposed to trim itself, but it doesn't do it very often if it does, causing slowdown.
Ignore the parts about Mac, but this explains why SSD's slow down, and why trim is important.
http://www.howtogeek.com/222077/how-to-enable-trim-for-third-party-ssds-on-mac-os-x/
We are a little off topic here, so back to the original topic. Try an OTG cable, or moving things via FTP is my suggestion on getting it backed up. BTW, root can be removed if you decide it's not for you.
toanau said:
When u root the device. doesn't it wipe the device first?
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kdb424 said:
I didn't check as I rooted mine before I ever booted it, but for most devices yes. That being said, rooting isn't what causes it to lose data, it's the fact that you have to unlock the device (fastboot oem unlock), which wipes it for user security on most devices. I would highly suggest backing it up via some method, I like FPT server, or you can probably mount it with the OTG cable. Once rooted, yes, you woid your warenty (for software, if it bricks, most campanies cover it), but then you have the control to fix things yourself. For example, the 1.4 update bricked many devices, so you can manually block updates with root, along with trimming drives to gain speed. Android 4.2 and higher is supposed to trim itself, but it doesn't do it very often if it does, causing slowdown.
Ignore the parts about Mac, but this explains why SSD's slow down, and why trim is important.
http://www.howtogeek.com/222077/how-to-enable-trim-for-third-party-ssds-on-mac-os-x/
We are a little off topic here, so back to the original topic. Try an OTG cable, or moving things via FTP is my suggestion on getting it backed up. BTW, root can be removed if you decide it's not for you.
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Yes when you unlock the bootloader it wipes the device, and you need to unlock the bootloader before you can root. Well worth it though does't take that long to set back up in my experience. I'm not sure if Carbon works on the Sheild if so you could back up apps and app data using that.
last night i was using my nexus player and out of nowhere it just randomly decided to shut down. next thing i know upon reboot it tried to update but since im rooted and such it failed. the problem here was that it screwed up boot and i had to wipe the cache which erased most settings.
Is there a way to make the nexus player not try to automatically update? disable update in settings for that matter (in case someone tried to get cute and do it while im not around)?
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last night i was using my nexus player and out of nowhere it just randomly decided to shut down. next thing i know upon reboot it tried to update but since im rooted and such it failed. the problem here was that it screwed up boot and i had to wipe the cache which erased most settings.
Is there a way to make the nexus player not try to automatically update? disable update in settings for that matter (in case someone tried to get cute and do it while im not around)?
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LOL!!!! I'm going through this frustration right now. Couple things I've done first install a custom recovery it won't let you update. if you do get the endless bootloop clear cache and it will stop (the update is downloaded to the cache). It might do that twice then will pass. This worked for me until factory restored my device. I ended up forgetting and now I'm marshmallow.
Next thing I'm gonna try is pushing a build.prop from the next update to /system. It hasn't been pushed yet but they usually release it on the site with the factory images. If I don't flash aosp first.
Yes but i wonder if theres a way to disable it. it sucks that i have to clear cache every time it attempts to update. its happened 3 times on me now. i will try to install my own custom recovery so hopefully thats all thats needed but i noticed android also downloads the update in the background, which probably wastes more space if your not planning on upgrading.
Once you clear the cache it deletes the update. Almost forgot I read some where here on xda that deleting otacerts.zip will stop it from downloading entirely. Not suggesting you try it but next update I'm gonna
You might want to try the method I suggested at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62865084&postcount=6 and see if that works or not.
Thanks for your solution but unfortunately, at least for me, i cant seem to get it to work. i can sideload and launch the disable service app, but when i try going to ANY actual apps or system services, it just crashes. Not sure why. :/
Asadullah said:
Once you clear the cache it deletes the update. Almost forgot I read some where here on xda that deleting otacerts.zip will stop it from downloading entirely. Not suggesting you try it but next update I'm gonna
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Tried this, and while it did stop the download from verifying, it just caused the nexus player to loop over and over by constantly downloading the update again, only to fail and repeat the process. This worked for a couple of days while i found the proper workaround, so thanks. keep in mind though that because it just caused the device to keep redownloading, this method could cause those on limited data plans to quickly go over.
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You might want to try the method I suggested at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=62865084&postcount=6 and see if that works or not.
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for whatever reason service disabler did not want to work for me. it caused a constant crash every time i tried clicking on any service within the app. I did however, eventually come across "My Android Tools" by the same developer as service disabler. Using this app i was able to disable the systemupdateservice within both google framework and google play services. I had to use a bluetooth mouse to navigate though, as the remote didnt want to work on its own. Once i used this app and followed your directions, now when i attempt to do a manual system update in settings, it just acts like im on the current version, which i assume means it fails instantly. Thanks so much man! so far so good!
For anyone curious, the app is:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cn.wq.myandroidtools&hl=en
keep in mind you may need to connect a mouse somehow to the nexus player to navigate and disable the services.
Thanks I'm gonna downgrade today and find out
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for whatever reason service disabler did not want to work for me. it caused a constant crash every time i tried clicking on any service within the app. I did however, eventually come across "My Android Tools" by the same developer as service disabler. Using this app i was able to disable the systemupdateservice within both google framework and google play services. I had to use a bluetooth mouse to navigate though, as the remote didnt want to work on its own. Once i used this app and followed your directions, now when i attempt to do a manual system update in settings, it just acts like im on the current version, which i assume means it fails instantly. Thanks so much man! so far so good!
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I'm glad to hear that things worked out for you with this method and the alternate app by the same developer. I've been running Android 6.0 Marshmallow after flashing its factory image but once the monthly security updates and unwanted reboots in to TWRP start happening, I may disable the updates using this method.
How do you sideload either service disabler app? Neither are listed on apkmirror and searching the play store in browser doesn't give an option to install for nexus player.
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How do you sideload either service disabler app? Neither are listed on apkmirror and searching the play store in browser doesn't give an option to install for nexus player.
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Copy and paste the Google Play URL for the app (which was posted earlier in this thread) in to box at the top of https://apkpure.com/region-free-apk-download and press the green download button. Then upload the APK to your Google Drive account and install it through ES File Explorer on your Nexus Player.
please correct me if I'm wrong
As the title said, please correct me if I'm wrong but this method isn't working in the nexus player MRA58K since the apk used to disable the updated only supports Lolipop, I tried in my nexus 7 running 5.0 and it's working flawless but the apk crash on Android 6.0, thanks in advance for your help.
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As the title said, please correct me if I'm wrong but this method isn't working in the nexus player MRA58K since the apk used to disable the updated only supports Lolipop, I tried in my nexus 7 running 5.0 and it's working flawless but the apk crash on Android 6.0, thanks in advance for your help.
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The "My Android Tools" app does not crash on a Nexus Player with Android 6.0 installed.
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The "My Android Tools" app does not crash on a Nexus Player with Android 6.0 installed.
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Not for me. After granting "my android tools" access, I go to disable systemupdateservice, and popup says it can't access root privelages ( Supersu is up to date. I'm not really sure why I even rooted and installed twrp recovery on this device, but I wish I had stock recovery back so I wouldn't be in this mess.
@pokes135, make sure you have the latest version of My Android Tools installed. You can flash a stock system or recovery image using Nexus Root Toolkit if necessary.
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How do you sideload either service disabler app? Neither are listed on apkmirror and searching the play store in browser doesn't give an option to install for nexus player.
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You can install a firefox browser addon called apk downloader which will inject a button when you view the app in google play website to download the apk.
Use any root explorer or es file explore
make/mount system as rw
navigate to /system/etc/security
rename otacerts.zip into otacerts.zip.bak or whatever you want.
It will stiop the automatic update completely.
If you need ota update you need to rename th otacerts.zip back
Virus in My Android Tools APK?
I'm also trying to disable automatic updating of my rooted nexus player for the same reasons everyone else is but when I try to download the My Android Tools apk I get his virus warning.
a variant of Android/Package.Jiagu.A
hoodred said:
Use any root explorer or es file explore
make/mount system as rw
navigate to /system/etc/security
rename otacerts.zip into otacerts.zip.bak or whatever you want.
It will stiop the automatic update completely.
If you need ota update you need to rename th otacerts.zip back
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Thanks for the info. Much more straight forward to do then sideloading app while hoping the app won't force close.
adb connect 192.168.xxx.xxx:5555
adb shell
su
mount -o remount,rw /system
mv /system/etc/security/otacerts.zip /system/etc/security/otacerts-disabled.zip
mount -o remount,ro /system
Pr-requisite: must be rooted and ADB Wireless already installed.
Don't use this method (renaming ota_certs)! It will just cause the updates to continuously download and fail, then start downloading again. You'll use a lot of bandwidth this way, and if you have a data cap, this is a sure fire way to bust through it.