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hm.. this doesnt seem possible to make right now.. also i dont like the idea of it to begin with but..
say it is possible:
for starters its not running android, the parts would be hella expensive, companies would lose alot of money from doing this.. also no gamepad
Unless theres a block for a gamepad i dont see this replacing my play any time soon
It looks cool.
As desktop computer user, i upgraded my computer around 3 times in totall, but components was always upgraded 1 by 1.
New hard-disk, new graphic, more memory etc
Design of phones is like laptops, once broken/outdated, you cam wipe your a$$ with it...
Finaly someone got idea how to overcome that problem.
This idea have endless possibilitis. Imagine upgrading cpu or gpu of your play?
I don't think it will come soon, but nevertheless, this is one step in right direction...
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Well then
I really like this and fully support the idea. I may even make a twitter account just to help add a vote. The only reasons I know of that electronics, mainly phones, are easily outdated/broken/given up on(xperia play and it's lack of updates...) is that companies can make more money releasing new devices and consumers constantly desire more powerful/feature-rich devices. This idea can solve both of those however. Phone and computer companies can release new hardware as Bloks* as often as they like, making them smaller, more powerful, and more efficient. Consumers can continue upgrading their device until it doesn't even resemble the first model they purchased.
This has so much room for improvement and innovation! Why isn't this the future already?:victory:
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I feel like they underestimated how this would kick off, and NEED to start actually designing hardware as proof-of-concept for companies to support.
Have we seen the last of support from Madcatz? They are very nice folks on the phone until you inquire into software updates the conversation becomes very short at this point? With all these great mods could they not just pay one of the devs for a update?
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Have we seen the last of support from Madcatz? They are very nice folks on the phone until you inquire into software updates the conversation becomes very short at this point? With all these great mods could they not just pay one of the devs for a update?
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Yeah, madcatz.. I'm guessing they just wrote the mojo off... Shame.
Nice! Impressive hardware, I like the 4GB ram and SATA port on it.. can you install apps directly on it instead of the internal storage?
Has a unbuntu port.. which is pretty cool for a portable desktop!
Pricey with no controller.. interesting to compare that with the X1 shield.
Mad Cats hates MOJO. They want you to just buy one from them, so they don't go out of business.
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Mad Cats hates MOJO. They want you to just buy one from them, so they don't go out of business.
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I have the same feeling
disorder78 said:
Mad Cats hates MOJO. They want you to just buy one from them, so they don't go out of business.
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hardly, it must of been a long shot from the start, being a peripheral company
Shame, they put in the hard work desiging and putting it out.. and running out of steam at the finishing line is pretty sad.
Oh well... is the razor is doing any better though?
It come out a year later, with worse HW IMO.
Starting to see octo core and X1 boxes now, so the days of K1 or lesser boxes must be numbered.
And Ouya lol.. well.. how long can you keep selling a T3(from 2012) device :laugh::laugh::laugh:
Oh well, I don't care anymore. Forget Mad Catz and OUYA because both companies suck.
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Oh well, I don't care anymore. Forget Mad Catz and OUYA because both companies suck.
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I like Mojo Hardware the controller is great. I'll know in the future not to buy anything that requires software from them. And Ouya the company with no management can you believe they ordered more Tegra 3 consoles in 2015? The sad thing is there are games with allot of talent on Ouya. I don't understand how a company stays in business with no public relations or marketing? Maybe they will emerge as a consulting firm for what not to do when you start business:cyclops:
So I'm running CM 12, and I can tell you that the only reason my MOJO is still in my house is because of this ROM. The hardware is great, and CM 12 fixes a lot of software issues with stock ROM. However, features like a game mapper should have been added. Mad Catz is a terrible company and I promise to never by another product from them again.
The controller is nice, but I can't play the games I want to play because the controller is not supported. This is why Mad Catz should have created a game mapper. Also, I miss vibration.
How about this, OUYA and Mad Catz Team up to make their next product. Even if this happened I would purchase the Shield because I can't trust novice companies like OUYA.
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hardly, it must of been a long shot from the start, being a peripheral company
Shame, they put in the hard work desiging and putting it out.. and running out of steam at the finishing line is pretty sad.
Oh well... is the razor is doing any better though?
It come out a year later, with worse HW IMO.
Starting to see octo core and X1 boxes now, so the days of K1 or lesser boxes must be numbered.
And Ouya lol.. well.. how long can you keep selling a T3(from 2012) device :laugh::laugh::laugh:
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So are you going with Obox or Shield? I still like Obox because it's upgradable but Shield is Nvidia??? I can't make up my mind
Definitely the Shield. One reason is the price at $199, and another reason is to get that game streaming service which is similarly priced to Playstation Network/Xbox live. I can get PC games without buying a PC
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So are you going with Obox or Shield? I still like Obox because it's upgradable but Shield is Nvidia??? I can't make up my mind
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Yeah the shield for sure!
X1 and the new shield library at the announcement looks great (ie the doom pack) and a controller and it's AndroidTV.
The obox will have the K1 at launch and will have a harddrive! and be modular , so you can (in theory) swap it out with a X1.. whether that happens is a gamble.. ie mojo getting kitkat:silly:
Tronsmart Draco Telnos is impressive because of the hardware and a linux port
Edit, Me personally, I think the MOJO is good enough hardware and software and with ports of CM12 and AndroidTV even more so.
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I like Mojo Hardware the controller is great. I'll know in the future not to buy anything that requires software from them. And Ouya the company with no management can you believe they ordered more Tegra 3 consoles in 2015? The sad thing is there are games with allot of talent on Ouya. I don't understand how a company stays in business with no public relations or marketing? Maybe they will emerge as a consulting firm for what not to do when you start business:cyclops:
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I liked ouya from the start, but when the dev kits came out and saw how cheap the controllers were with missing start/select buttons then the free the funds scam then no need to make it free.. nah..
I'm surprised people are buy the hardware, let alone the games!
I'm guessing ouya must have a shelf presences at big chain stores.. mah:silly:
They might fold someday and get bought out by someone like snail games which is making the obox
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Yeah the shield for sure!
X1 and the new shield library at the announcement looks great (ie the doom pack) and a controller and it's AndroidTV.
The obox will have the K1 at launch and will have a harddrive! and be modular , so you can (in theory) swap it out with a X1.. whether that happens is a gamble.. ie mojo getting kitkat:silly:
Tronsmart Draco Telnos is impressive because of the hardware and a linux port
Edit, Me personally, I think the MOJO is good enough hardware and software and with ports of CM12 and AndroidTV even more so.
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I liked ouya from the start, but when the dev kits came out and saw how cheap the controllers were with missing start/select buttons then the free the funds scam then no need to make it free.. nah..
I'm surprised people are buy the hardware, let alone the games!
I'm guessing ouya must have a shelf presences at big chain stores.. mah:silly:
They might fold someday and get bought out by someone like snail games which is making the obox
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Does the Cm mod have a port for Ouya Everywhere? When they got more units in with the Tegra 3 that has about finished me as far as the Ouya console.I mean how stupid is that to spend money that could go to building Ouya 2?.Seems they make one f??k up after another. It blows my mind :cyclops:
I just wish the shield had a harddrive. I am going to stick it out with the Mojo and Draco for awhile and see how it all comes together.
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Does the Cm mod have a port for Ouya Everywhere?
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No, Shatshi Matrix tried but reverted back to madcatz's jellybean firmware.
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No, Shatshi Matrix tried but reverted back to madcatz's jellybean firmware.
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Shatshi Matrix is still on CM12. I've posted the updated Ouya Everywhere apks in the Ouya Fourms. He is currently testing to see if the updated files will work on CM12 and will hopefully post positive results.
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Does the Cm mod have a port for Ouya Everywhere? When they got more units in with the Tegra 3 that has about finished me as far as the Ouya console.I mean how stupid is that to spend money that could go to building Ouya 2?.Seems they make one f??k up after another. It blows my mind :cyclops:
I just wish the shield had a harddrive. I am going to stick it out with the Mojo and Draco for awhile and see how it all comes together.
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Was trying to wait for Shatshi Matrix to report the results, but haven't heard anything. Since there have been a few that downloaded the updated OuyaApk files and have been quiet, I figured I'd update the MOJO and find out for myself.
End Result: The update OuyaApks (1.2.897) ARE WORKING with CM12.
So once again you can have OUYA EVERYWHERE on MOJO but now with lollipop, and now use apps that manage overscan that is supported on Lollipop.
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Was trying to wait for Shatshi Matrix to report the results, but haven't heard anything. Since there have been a few that downloaded the updated OuyaApk files and have been quiet, I figured I'd update the MOJO and find out for myself.
End Result: The update OuyaApks (1.2.897) ARE WORKING with CM12.
So once again you can have OUYA EVERYWeHERE on MOJO but now with lollipop, and now use apps that manage overscan that is supported on Lollipop.
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This will be my first time flashing a OS on Android manually. I noticed there are a couple methods that can be used. Which is the easiest with good documentation for a newbie? I am looking forward to the CM mod as I hear it's great? Also would anyone be willing to assist me with the the Ouya install not sure where to get the source files? I do have some games from Ouya I would like to keep. Thanks for your patience with me I did manage to root so this can't be that difficult :silly:
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This will be my first time flashing a OS on Android manually. I noticed there are a couple methods that can be used. Which is the easiest with good documentation for a newbie? I am looking forward to the CM mod as I hear it's great? Also would anyone be willing to assist me with the the Ouya install not sure where to get the source files? I do have some games from Ouya I would like to keep. Thanks for your patience with me I did manage to root so this can't be that difficult :silly:
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1) I used an app from the play store called "Flashify" to backup kernel, and recovery.
2) I placed the latest build, recommended gapps onto an sd card from the CM12 page. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57575652&postcount=1
3) I used "Flashify" to enter recovery mode and followed the installation instructions from the CM12 page.
4) After installation and setup I installed the updated OuyaApks I posted here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59461876&postcount=51
From here, currently I'm trying to restore root. Still looking through the forums to see if there are existing answers before trying something on my own. Good luck with your upgrade.
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1) I used an app from the play store called "Flashify" to backup kernel, and recovery.
2) I placed the latest build, recommended gapps onto an sd card from the CM12 page. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57575652&postcount=1
3) I used "Flashify" to enter recovery mode and followed the installation instructions from the CM12 page.
4) After installation and setup I installed the updated OuyaApks I posted here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59461876&postcount=51
From here, currently I'm trying to restore root. Still looking through the forums to see if there are existing answers before trying something on my own. Good luck with your upgrade.
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Root is included in CM 12 rom, look in settings privacy. I think its called privacy guard.
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Was trying to wait for Shatshi Matrix to report the results, but haven't heard anything.
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Ha, that's really nice of him :crying:
Anyway, thanks for letting the mojo ouya fans know :good:
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1) I used an app from the play store called "Flashify" to backup kernel, and recovery.
2) I placed the latest build, recommended gapps onto an sd card from the CM12 page. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=57575652&postcount=1
3) I used "Flashify" to enter recovery mode and followed the installation instructions from the CM12 page.
4) After installation and setup I installed the updated OuyaApks I posted here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59461876&postcount=51
From here, currently I'm trying to restore root. Still looking through the forums to see if there are existing answers before trying something on my own. Good luck with your upgrade.
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Okay I followed above. I copied zip file to sdcard. Downloaded flashify. In flashify I ran backup no problem. I then choose flash from zip, choose mod file, in pop up choose wipe per instructions. It then asks if I want to boot to recovery, I select yes. It then boots to recovery starts to flash and says error. I then reboot it goes back to stock rom? I obviously am probably missing something stupid :cyclops: What am I missing?
When is Android 6.0 Marshmallow coming to the Nvidia Shield TV? Nvidia is planning to upgrade all of us, right?
It's coming, as to when, well, your guess is as good as anybody's. I tweeted @NvidiaShield and the response was "you know we always have something cooking". Im looking forward to using external sd as internal. Other than that I don't know what else there really is to look forward to with it.
sooooon
I'm so excited for it !
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I'm so excited for it !
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Why?
Not trolling, genuinely curious. Since Shield TV is a "set top" box, things like Doze, battery savings, On Tap, really wouldn't matter.
Meanee said:
Why?
Not trolling, genuinely curious. Since Shield TV is a "set top" box, things like Doze, battery savings, On Tap, really wouldn't matter.
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Probably for the support of external memory being used as internal.
I can't wait for marshmallow too! I've been searching for ways to move apps 100% to the microSD card but so far nothing works!
I've tried all the apps 2 sd apps on Google Play and I even tried this:
XInternalSD
This module changes value (path to internal SD card) in some Android APIs which apps use. Control this path in module's settings. You can enable this module for all apps or only for specific apps. Also you can enable full access to external SD card (for KitKat+)
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.pyler.xinternalsd
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I can't wait for marshmallow too! I've been searching for ways to move apps 100% to the microSD card but so far nothing works!
I've tried all the apps 2 sd apps on Google Play and I even tried this:
XInternalSD
This module changes value (path to internal SD card) in some Android APIs which apps use. Control this path in module's settings. You can enable this module for all apps or only for specific apps. Also you can enable full access to external SD card (for KitKat+)
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.pyler.xinternalsd
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I made a post here on Xda explaining how to have apps to external USB hdd if that's any help to you it's in the general section for the shield
Believe me, you won't be happy with marshmallow's sdcard adoption implementation. I don't care if this thing gets marshmallow lol. It runs everything perfect as it is right now. How about some goddamn top tier games tho, nvidia?!
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I made a post here on Xda explaining how to have apps to external USB hdd if that's any help to you it's in the general section for the shield
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Link, please?
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Link, please?
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Link
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Video: NVIDIA Demos Android 6.0 Marshmallow on the SHIELD TV
NVIDIA has said the update will be available later this month, but no firm date has been announced just yet.
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new info:
Special Delivery: Android 6.0 Marshmallow, New Games and More Coming to SHIELD
Gilbot said:
Believe me, you won't be happy with marshmallow's sdcard adoption implementation. I don't care if this thing gets marshmallow lol. It runs everything perfect as it is right now. How about some goddamn top tier games tho, nvidia?!
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What do you mean?
Sounds like it's going to work very well!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtPGPBN5PJQ
New version will also bring you a lot of problem. It is just a TV, the current system is good enough for me.
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New version will also bring you a lot of problem. It is just a TV, the current system is good enough for me.
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Based on what? That's like saying, "If you go outside, you're just going to die".
Some people just "talk" to hear themselves "talk".
There might be bugs/issues when it comes out, but overall newer versions tend to bring new features. More importantly, security patches are usually in newer versions too.
Sorry but he has a point. Still today I don't understand the need for new OS versions every 6 months. New OS will bring new features but also new bugs to be corrected. It's not like google makes HW specific OS. For example Minix already said they won't upgrade their Android base because they have a very stable, bug free SW and do not want to risk having to solve lots of bugs. Then again no one forces you to update, simply don't click the button
Nevertheless he has some point and they should focus on contacting app developers to support the Android TV a bit more because the amount of supported apps is just ridiculous in my opinion, specially considering the tremendous potential of Shield's HW.
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Sorry but he has a point. Still today I don't understand the need for new OS versions every 6 months. New OS will bring new features but also new bugs to be corrected. It's not like google makes HW specific OS. For example Minix already said they won't upgrade their Android base because they have a very stable, bug free SW and do not want to risk having to solve lots of bugs. Then again no one forces you to update, simply don't click the button
Nevertheless he has some point and they should focus on contacting app developers to support the Android TV a bit more because the amount of supported apps is just ridiculous in my opinion, specially considering the tremendous potential of Shield's HW.
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I shockingly found myself gently forced to update by Nvidia. The update popup appears annoyingly frequently and that was the main reason why I updated from V1.3 to V1.4. I do like updates I just didn't want to go through the hassle of re-rooting.
is there any news for new update? thanks
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is there any news for new update? thanks
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Nope. They will release it when it's ready. It makes no sense to rush a ROM deployment if it doesn't bring anything new over the past release and if it's not as stable. If they would do such a thing, the discussion over this board will turn into "Why doesn't nVidia care about their users and release crappy updates!!??!! Let's boycott [email protected]"!"!"
I just found the shield TV was an officially supported device by Remix os.
there is the ROM http://www.jide.com/remixos/devices/shieldtv
it seems it is lollipop based and have no hardware acceleration yet.
did someone tried it and is willing to give a feedback?
EDIT: I didn't read the post properly, response removed.
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EDIT: I didn't read the post properly, response removed.
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it is OK,i t was entertaining still
what type to use ,16G? 500G HDD?
leasing said:
what type to use ,16G? 500G HDD?
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same image for both.but 500gb shield will be a lots slower to install.
(formating)
This remix os version is for the Shield Pro, it's lollipop based so if anyone's on marshmallow and want to try it, you will have to downgrade in order to install
It would be amazing if we could dual boot this ROM (on Lollipop) and the stock Android TV on Marshmallow.maybe with AROMA and
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It would be amazing if we could dual boot this ROM (on Lollipop) and the stock Android TV on Marshmallow.maybe with AROMA and
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so true,to bad twrp does not support multiple rom on this device.
that suck.
in the other hand jide just leaked some info about remix 3.0 marshmallow.
that will be released very soon.
Remix is still a little glitchy & controller does not work wirelessly. Every other time Play Store is opened one must uninstall Play update, can be solved by installing the latest Play Store apk
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Remix is still a little glitchy & controller does not work wirelessly. Every other time Play Store is opened one must uninstall Play update, can be solved by installing the latest Play Store apk
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Ho OK thx. Yes the controller and play store was expected.it is not the first that have this problem (Zulu roms)
Nvidia need to release the driver,they will make less holding back the controller wifi driver,as all it seems is a vain attempt to promote geforce now sales and percentage earnings via play store etc on shield tv.The chances are the units would fly off the shelves far faster than they ever would make more selling the games in a cloud subscription gaming service by miles,I'd see it as it would gain us notoriety for the hardware if I were a boss there,and that's everything brand recognition trumps trying to sell subscriptions to a sparse game library,and android tv os is just so young and uninteresting to some developers I am picturing it,this is why they are not rebuilding or porting current libraries of apps and games to the os.They probably see it more rewarding to keep with the standard os than plug money into an unknown variable,unless of course the fault lies with googles turn around on verifying the allready ported apps and games,this confuses me why is android tv os so sparse on apps and games and where does the blame lie in versions of apps and games for the android tv os lie anyway google and or the developer can someone elaborate where the blame goes please as I am confused what the problem is?
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Nvidia need to release the driver,they will make less holding back the controller wifi driver,as all it seems is a vain attempt to promote geforce now sales and percentage earnings via play store etc on shield tv.The chances are the units would fly off the shelves far faster than they ever would make more selling the games in a cloud subscription gaming service by miles,I'd see it as it would gain us notoriety for the hardware if I were a boss there,and that's everything brand recognition trumps trying to sell subscriptions to a sparse game library,and android tv os is just so young and uninteresting to some developers I am picturing it,this is why they are not rebuilding or porting current libraries of apps and games to the os.They probably see it more rewarding to keep with the standard os than plug money into an unknown variable,unless of course the fault lies with googles turn around on verifying the allready ported apps and games,this confuses me why is android tv os so sparse on apps and games and where does the blame lie in versions of apps and games for the android tv os lie anyway google and or the developer can someone elaborate where the blame goes please as I am confused what the problem is?
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I assume for the play store the problem is from Google..
they offer different licencing for basically the same thing as Android..
but they have split Android and Android TV only because they wanted to earn more money.
splitting the licencing mean 2 time the money for them...
protecting a different experiences for living rooms.
for streaming stuff and controller you can blame nvidia for promoting their proprietary services and technology.
the cloud,the streaming and their "high "bandwidth "controllers.
Ah now I get it it's due to greed,make money by calling the same thing a different thing by slapping a launcher in it and saying yeah you can list your game in android tv os as well,but you know it's a different thing to normal android os because it's tv os! But actually it's android with a different shell they charge you again for just to list in the same play store for it,that's what people where i live call pure skank lol :good: thumbs up goolge no wonder everyone isn't jumping on the development side of this cash cow all at once lmfao,why the heck would you discourage before encourage if the aim is profit here???But thanks for this insight I never realized they'd do such a thing,it's theoretically a bit unbecoming of a open source os owner to start cashing in twice a time in my opinion it's a little bit cruel,maybe if they'd say earn your 1st year before paying a fee that would be better for anyone coming in as a first time publisher of apps or games,instead of being told give me your money then I'll list your game or app,who cares if it's not affordable because all your time and effort is spent making the app or game come to fruition for the purpose of then publishing it.Or even better incentives is 1 years free publishing and then a fee is paid regardless if you take it down or not,it gives a push to put good stuff up and not lowsy stuff otherwise you make nothing to pay with in the first year,why not work it door swings both ways like that,or a 2 year grace period is even better,it would mean better quality product is likely made,and money for the developer to afford to pay is highly likely at that stage.
I almost made a new topic for this, but decided to revive this one instead. Jide just released v3 of Remix OS for the Google Pixel C...... which has the same CPU/GPU as the Shield TV does, so theoretically this should make it a hell of a lot easier to get it working on the Shield.
I've been using it on my Pixel for about the past 48 hours and I absolutely love it. I'm trying to re-arrange my PCs in my apartment and I'm looking for a high performance, low power PC to put in my bedroom as a replacement for my Steam Machine (currently streaming stuff from it to the Shield in the living room), and the Shield with Remix would be the perfect candidate since I already know it suits my needs and is really snappy.
The question is, who's up to the challenge to get it to work? I know nothing about Android development, but I'm more than willing to help with development and provide anything necessary off of the Pixel, which shouldn't be a problem since I have Remix OS currently rooted
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The question is, who's up to the challenge to get it to work? I know nothing about Android development, but I'm more than willing to help with development and provide anything necessary off of the Pixel, which shouldn't be a problem since I have Remix OS currently rooted
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I guess they will release a V3 to Shield TV soon, so I dont think thats neccessary.
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tailslol said:
I assume for the play store the problem is from Google..
they offer different licencing for basically the same thing as Android..
but they have split Android and Android TV only because they wanted to earn more money.
splitting the licencing mean 2 time the money for them...
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I dont understand? All my apps that I bought originally for standard Android devices work fine without having to rerpurchase. This even goes for apps I bought a few years back. I dont see Google splittimg licencing between devices, rather the opposite. And thats why Im perfectly happy with my Shield TV. If you look at Apple, they did what you talk about, releasing phone / tablet and I guess ATV versions of apps making customers have to repurchase.
Remix os uses a different license than android
They still have to release the source code, the kernel is Linux and the OS is Android, both are open source and licensed under the GPL so by law they have to release the source code of at least that, which is the major part we need. Also Nvidias drivers and source code are released so what are we really missing? I just read the article on XDA and its talking about Android-X86, but this is Android ARM, which is a different beast. Jide mentioned that they hosted their code on github, but surprise, surprise its empty https://github.com/jide-opensource. This seems to be their real repository: https://github.com/JideTechnology
Also I wouldn't be too sure of them releasing it for the shield since they already sell their own desktop/media center device.
Edit: looks like I was wrong Android is licensed under the Apache license, which means that a company can take the source code, modify it and change the license but the still have to release the code for the unmodified parts
Still me thinks it shouldn't be too difficult since they're using the same CPU and GPU, but the pixel is essentially a Chromebook and the shield has no screen or touch input, just an HDMI port, so it may be way more difficult than I think.
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I guess they will release a V3 to Shield TV soon, so I dont think thats neccessary.
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I dont understand? All my apps that I bought originally for standard Android devices work fine without having to rerpurchase. This even goes for apps I bought a few years back. I dont see Google splittimg licencing between devices, rather the opposite. And thats why Im perfectly happy with my Shield TV. If you look at Apple, they did what you talk about, releasing phone / tablet and I guess ATV versions of apps making customers have to repurchase.
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The licensing is on dev side.not on customer side.
this would be amazing
Anyone excited for this game and found out our devices arent supported because of the intel chip?
it sucks...
I'll fix the broken Moto G 2014 to play it.
I tried to run in stock lollipop. Anyone tried it on custom roms?
Dan_Jacques said:
I'll fix the broken Moto G 2014 to play it.
I tried to run in stock lollipop. Anyone tried it on custom roms?
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lucky for you.
had no spare phone, play some first gen pokemon will help i guess
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lucky for you.
had no spare phone, play some first gen pokemon will help i guess
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i hope they add support for our phones, i wanna be the very best man, otherwise ill have to sell this phone, it's been disappointing me alot.
Starr a petition for the support?
I don't care about MM update... I just want to play Pokémon Go!
I've had a few issues now with the zenfone. I regret buying this after my oneplus died.
cm13 cant play
No f*** way, really I hate Asus now this is the last time I'm buying this crap, paid 400$ with an SD and couple of covers, I should've bought one plus two instead...
Remember guys, if software isn't working, it's the software manufacturer's job to get it fixed. In this case, I'm guessing the developers of the Pokemon game compiled it specifically for non-Intel SoC's... so you would want to send your petition to the Pokemon game developer to also compile Intel libraries.
I was in 2nd phase of the beta test and even then they never took the time to compile for x86 phones. I can't completely blame them either as it seems it's very out of the way to compile for x86 or Intel based phones as well. Another game called Fantasy War Tactics kinda had the same problem recently where they did a few updates that also broke compatibility for x86 so maybe it's not entirely their fault either. In the end we are just gonna have to wait patiently.
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I think they are being lazy since a properly made app would never have issues with x86 compilation
If I had to guess it flagged the anti cheat stuff. Who knows. I'm frustrated with this phone.
Yes let's start the petition now!
Here is a link to a petition that has currently 1,481 supporters.https://www.change.org/p/niantic-pokemon-go-intel-processor?recruiter=369210296&utm_source=petitions_show_components_action_panel_wrapper&utm_medium=copylink
Nowadays a few tablets also use Intel SoC, so I guess more and more people will start complaining and the developers will eventually have to care about compatibility and compiling for x86 platforms. If they want the game to spread, they will have to support as many systems as possible.
I'm not going to regret buying this phone just for one game. This is a smartphone, not a PS4.
The phone runs pretty good regardless of not playing a couple of games.
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but couldn't anyone make believe app somehow that we have another different processor from intel? Sorry for the bad english
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because even if the petition is accepted, we still have to wait for July 15 or more, and I want to play Pokémon go as soon as possible ahahaha
Why is everyone blaming the phone manufacturer?
This isn't their issue if one or two games/apps don't work as its the app developers responsibility.
Moreover pokemon go isn't supported for windows phones as well, so should we start a petition to ban microsoft?
Very sad to see these kind of posts even after knowing asus is trying its best to provide for timely updates.
Also even if pokemon go comes to support z2 we won't be able to play it for more than 1-1/2 hours in one charge due to our battery life issues.
The regret comes from Intel. Seems they pushed and then mostly abandoned this market. Sigh.