Hi, so I recently got a p9 lite. I want to root it and I think unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty. Can I get it back somehow? Like flashing Stock ROM or locking it manually? Samsung has that god damnit KNOX which once tripped always shows that the phone has been modified.
Thanks in advance.
I wonder the same. I need my sound system back.
Jhnsn said:
Hi, so I recently got a p9 lite. I want to root it and I think unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty. Can I get it back somehow? Like flashing Stock ROM or locking it manually? Samsung has that god damnit KNOX which once tripped always shows that the phone has been modified.
Thanks in advance.
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Rooting a phone will void the warranty, no matter what android phone you have. I think you can lock your phone's bootloader with SRK tool.
Jhnsn said:
Hi, so I recently got a p9 lite. I want to root it and I think unlocking the bootloader will void the warranty. Can I get it back somehow? Like flashing Stock ROM or locking it manually? Samsung has that **** KNOX which once tripped always shows that the phone has been modified.
Thanks in advance.
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if you flash the stock rom the bootloader will get locked again. and from my experience, as long as problems with the phone are not related to you unlocking and rooting the device, you'll have warranty even if it is unlocked and rooted.
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hey i recently bought a galaxy tab 2 p3100 ,after searching in few threads i foundout the binary flash counter problem which avoids warranty in other countries ,i'm guessing the same implies in our country too ,but still would like to confirm ?
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Quick question: How is the death grip on that device?
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I don't know any device that has a warranty that covers flashing non-stock firmware to the device. Even the warranty on the Nexus is technically void once unlocked and flashed with non-stock firmware. Just that it is easy enough to revert back to stock and re-lock if you do have an issue.
shinydesert said:
Quick question: How is the death grip on that device?
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actually i loose only 1 bit signal strength ,nothing much ,wifi is fine.
imnuts said:
I don't know any device that has a warranty that covers flashing non-stock firmware to the device. Even the warranty on the Nexus is technically void once unlocked and flashed with non-stock firmware. Just that it is easy enough to revert back to stock and re-lock if you do have an issue.
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even if you return back to stock firmware ,the flash binary counter doesn't reset i guess....thats what i am trying to confirm.
Sure you will lose warranty.
can i unlock to bootloader without root the phone ?
when im unlocking the bootloader i have to switch recorvery right ?
after i unlocked the bootloader and rooted the phone, can i completly relock it and send it for warranty or that stuff?
thank you all
oz adari said:
can i unlock to bootloader without root the phone ?
when im unlocking the bootloader i have to switch recorvery right ?
after i unlocked the bootloader and rooted the phone, can i completly relock it and send it for warranty or that stuff?
thank you all
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Im new to Android so sorry for any wrong info..
Yes you can unlock the bootloader without rooting
Not sure about the second one
Yes you can unroot and lock your bootloader and also flash the stock rom if youve used a custom rom
oz adari said:
can i unlock to bootloader without root the phone ?
when im unlocking the bootloader i have to switch recorvery right ?
after i unlocked the bootloader and rooted the phone, can i completly relock it and send it for warranty or that stuff?
thank you all
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1. Yes you can.
2. Well if you're planning to flash anything after unlocking, you'll have to flash a custom recovery before doing so.
3. Yes you can flash stock rom/kernel/recovery and then relock the bootloader if you need to send your phone back for warranty repairs.
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You should really read this thread put together by efrant. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010338
It had a ton of good info for a new android/nexus user.
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oz adari said:
can i unlock to bootloader without root the phone ?
when im unlocking the bootloader i have to switch recorvery right ?
after i unlocked the bootloader and rooted the phone, can i completly relock it and send it for warranty or that stuff?
thank you all
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1) yes
2) If you unlock the bootloader you do not HAVE to flash a custom recovery, it is just recommended that you do.
3) yes and no. google provided stock images that you can use to restore your phone. At the moment they aren't officially available, but with some searching you can easily find them. Any time you root a phone, you void the warranty, however, most phones don't provide a way to flag the manufacturers that you actually have rooted it.
Hi! I know if I flash a firmware or a root file,it will set KNOX to 0x1.Ok,but I will buy the phone without warranty.I just want to know one thing
Will flashing a firmware bring up a yellow triangle?And can it be removed via Triangle Away? Or will it show anything else beside the 0x1 KNOX?
Please, take anything you want just don't give me the triangle, the dreaded triangle of death.... haha
I don't know if the n3 has a triangle but I do know that chainfire the author said his tools do not work on knox devices. So no triangle away.
I just rooted my Note 3, no triangle
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Sorry for stupid question guys but as far as I know if KNOX is set to 0x1 it can't be restored and your warranty is void for all the time,right?
Simonna said:
Sorry for stupid question guys but as far as I know if KNOX is set to 0x1 it can't be restored and your warranty is void for all the time,right?
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Yup, speculation is that there is a type of efuse that once blown is irreversible. And yes the KNOX warranty is void. Now whether or not a carrier representative (if carrier branded) will know to check this flag and deny you is another matter.
Thanks @Pliind
This knox warranty.
Is it triggered if a official firmware is flashed via odin?
Like i have an 02UK n3.
With my s4 i just changed CSC flashed BTU rom and viola.
Doing this on n3 voids that warranty?
So I wanna get this straight! When I get my Note 3 from Verizon, if I deny Knox on my first boot I will lose my warranty. Which I am OK with, but can I flash a custom recovery and ROM and root with no issues??
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harosxcomp170 said:
So I wanna get this straight! When I get my Note 3 from Verizon, if I deny Knox on my first boot I will lose my warranty. Which I am OK with, but can I flash a custom recovery and ROM and root with no issues??
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No. Denying a Knox prompt is the least of our problems with Verizon. In order to flash a custom ROM, we have to unlock the bootloader or get around it with Loki or SafeStrap in order to install a custom recovery.
It is possible to root a phone with a fully locked bootloader and without a custom recovery, however (like the S4)
docnok63 said:
No. Denying a Knox prompt is the least of our problems with Verizon. In order to flash a custom ROM, we have to unlock the bootloader or get around it with Loki or SafeStrap in order to install a custom recovery.
It is possible to root a phone with a fully locked bootloader and without a custom recovery, however (like the S4)
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Hmm really considering just keeping my S3 now. So if I purchased a international note 3 from eBay I would have a unlocked bootloader but wouldn't be able to receive 4G data from Verizon in the USA? Right?
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harosxcomp170 said:
Hmm really considering just keeping my S3 now. So if I purchased a international note 3 from eBay I would have a unlocked bootloader but wouldn't be able to receive 4G data from Verizon in the USA? Right?
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Correct, If having an unlocked bootloader is crucial to you, I'd wait until you see what the development community comes up with on the initial release of Note 3's or just wait to buy the Developer Edition 3-8 weeks later. You know that variant will have an unlocked bootloader, but you'll also have to pay full price.
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No. Denying a Knox prompt is the least of our problems with Verizon. In order to flash a custom ROM, we have to unlock the bootloader or get around it with Loki or SafeStrap in order to install a custom recovery.
It is possible to root a phone with a fully locked bootloader and without a custom recovery, however (like the S4)
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Well, Loki is out of the question, it is not compatible.
designgears said:
Well, Loki is out of the question, it is not compatible.
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Not with locked bootloader, no. But there's a chance it could be modified if we get that magic key.
I will pretty much go with the stock ROM and a kernel with CWM and root.I do not want to install CM or AOKP,because I will loose the function,like S Pen menu,etc...Maybe I will install a custom ROM based on stock
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Not with locked bootloader, no. But there's a chance it could be modified if we get that magic key.
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Nope, it doesn't work with the S800, already confirmed with jcase.
Anyone tried flashing a stock rom after raising the Knox void flag?
I read somewhere, someone saying that its not possible to flash a stock rom after the flag activating....
If it is possible, do we lose OTA functionality?
Thanks
illusion786 said:
Anyone tried flashing a stock rom after raising the Knox void flag?
I read somewhere, someone saying that its not possible to flash a stock rom after the flag activating....
If it is possible, do we lose OTA functionality?
Thanks
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I'm wondering the same thing...I don't care about the warranty but if I sell the phone after the one year Samsung warranty is up I would like to be able to put it back to a state where the next owner will receive OTA updates.
bp328i said:
I'm wondering the same thing...I don't care about the warranty but if I sell the phone after the one year Samsung warranty is up I would like to be able to put it back to a state where the next owner will receive OTA updates.
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Already flashed it twice after trashing it a few times, after flashing stock my status changed back to official, I have never seen any knox warnings since I did not install the knox app samsung leaves a link for
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Already flashed it twice after trashing it a few times, after flashing stock my status changed back to official, I have never seen any knox warnings since I did not install the knox app samsung leaves a link for
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Cool, so in regards to flashing back to stock, were you able to flash any (csc/region) stock rom or were you limited to your own csc that came with the phone.
illusion786 said:
Cool, so in regards to flashing back to stock, were you able to flash any (csc/region) stock rom or were you limited to your own csc that came with the phone.
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I am in Hong Kong, there are no restirctions
Hello guys, i have recently bought a Samsung Galaxy S4 I9500. I switched from ios to android and i am loving it so far. I have a couple of questions: I want to root my device. Does this affect the binary counter? Also if i have a problem with my device and i have warranty, will i be able to format my device (un-root)? Also will this affect binary counter? I don't want to loose my 2 years warranty. Thanks!
PS: While i was on IOS i received a lot of support on reddit but when i asked for android stuff, i never got any response. Is this the right forum for a beginner like me?
Arjoni said:
Hello guys, i have recently bought a Samsung Galaxy S4 I9500. I switched from ios to android and i am loving it so far. I have a couple of questions: I want to root my device. Does this affect the binary counter? Also if i have a problem with my device and i have warranty, will i be able to format my device (un-root)? Also will this affect binary counter? I don't want to loose my 2 years warranty. Thanks!
PS: While i was on IOS i received a lot of support on reddit but when i asked for android stuff, i never got any response. Is this the right forum for a beginner like me?
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1)Yes rooting will affect your binary counter.
2) Yes you can unroot your device to gain back warranty.
BUT the binary counter is HIDDEN!
So you can just reset the STATUS(which is official for stock n custom for unofficial)
There is an app called Triangle away which resets this counter but it only available for i9505 n not for i9500.
you have one more problem that is Knox In some service centers do not pay attention to it, but in others lose two year warranty on the phone
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you have one more problem that is Knox In some service centers do not pay attention to it, but in others lose two year warranty on the phone
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Yes absolutely a problem. I forgot to mention it. If any unofficial stuff is flashed then this knox pox is triggered.
Mandark52 said:
1)Yes rooting will affect your binary counter.
2) Yes you can unroot your device to gain back warranty.
BUT the binary counter is HIDDEN!
So you can just reset the STATUS(which is official for stock n custom for unofficial)
There is an app called Triangle away which resets this counter but it only available for i9505 n not for i9500.
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you have one more problem that is Knox In some service centers do not pay attention to it, but in others lose two year warranty on the phone
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So does this mean i shouldn't root? I don't want to loose my warranty...
Arjoni said:
So does this mean i shouldn't root? I don't want to loose my warranty...
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Where do you live? In the UK, for example, (and I believe the EU as a whole) then it doesn't matter if you trip Knox.
Arjoni said:
So does this mean i shouldn't root? I don't want to loose my warranty...
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First have a look on the stickies of Knox discussion. You wont get official software updates if you trip knox(as recovery is custom aftr rooting) n there are knox friendly rooting methods. But I dont really care about knox and after rooting it is upto you that you aint flashing anything wrong or not following the instructions. All the best.
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So does this mean i shouldn't root? I don't want to loose my warranty...
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I personally am currently with stock firmware
Twice my phone was in service for Knox experiments that I did
Had twice to change the motherboard, but it was replaced under warranty because I have a version that my phone and just motherboard died and there is nothing to see in the Samsung service centre
Knox is a major obstacle
The choice is yours
andyjg247 said:
Where do you live? In the UK, for example, (and I believe the EU as a whole) then it doesn't matter if you trip Knox.
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Mandark52 said:
First have a look on the stickies of Knox discussion. You wont get official software updates if you trip knox(as recovery is custom aftr rooting) n there are knox friendly rooting methods. But I dont really care about knox and after rooting it is upto you that you aint flashing anything wrong or not following the instructions. All the best.
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AIkizov said:
I personally am currently with stock firmware
Twice my phone was in service for Knox experiments that I did
Had twice to change the motherboard, but it was replaced under warranty because I have a version that my phone and just motherboard died and there is nothing to see in the Samsung service centre
Knox is a major obstacle
The choice is yours
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i want to make it clear that i don't intend to flash a custom ROM. I just want to root my stock firmware (4.4.2) and then to unroot (format with the stock ROM). Will this flag Knox and the counter? will that avoid my warranty? sorry for all of these questions but i just moved on android. thank you
Arjoni said:
i want to make it clear that i don't intend to flash a custom ROM. I just want to root my stock firmware (4.4.2) and then to unroot (format with the stock ROM). Will this flag Knox and the counter? will that avoid my warranty? sorry for all of these questions but i just moved on android. thank you
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your warranty will void
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your warranty will void
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so samsung doesn't allow you to format your device? well i think i am going back to ios... -_-
Arjoni said:
so samsung doesn't allow you to format your device? well i think i am going back to ios... -_-
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have the ability to format, but the stock rom allows do not have permission to freely manipulate software - Void your warranty
Arjoni said:
i want to make it clear that i don't intend to flash a custom ROM. I just want to root my stock firmware (4.4.2) and then to unroot (format with the stock ROM). Will this flag Knox and the counter? will that avoid my warranty? sorry for all of these questions but i just moved on android. thank you
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As I said previously that you should know what are you flashing and what will happen after it. If you flash anything by not following the correct procedure then you ll pay for it. I rooted my s4 3 months ago and immediately took a backup of my OS through a custom recovery. This backup helps me if something gets wrong. And I really dont care about about Knox because what you lose is only OTA updates and nothing else. So after rooting even you can backup your OS n stay on stock as long you want. Choice is yours. All the best.
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As I said previously that you should know what are you flashing and what will happen after it. If you flash anything by not following the correct procedure then you ll pay for it. I rooted my s4 3 months ago and immediately took a backup of my OS through a custom recovery. This backup helps me if something gets wrong. And I really dont care about about Knox because what you lose is only OTA updates and nothing else. So after rooting even you can backup your OS n stay on stock as long you want. Choice is yours. All the best.
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Triggered Knox not prevent for receive OTA updates
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Triggered Knox not prevent for receive OTA updates
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As stock recovery of the phone changes there will be no OTA updates for that device it ll say THE DEVICE SETTINGS HAS BEEN CHANGED or something similar to it. And stock recovery is replaced by philz touch or cwm while rooting. And side by side this knox pox is also triggered.
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As stock recovery of the phone changes there will be no OTA updates for that device it ll say THE DEVICE SETTINGS HAS BEEN CHANGED or something similar to it. And stock recovery is replaced by philz touch or cwm while rooting. And side by side this knox pox is also triggered.
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now just talking about root that does not alter RecoverŅ
Arjoni said:
i want to make it clear that i don't intend to flash a custom ROM. I just want to root my stock firmware (4.4.2) and then to unroot (format with the stock ROM). Will this flag Knox and the counter? will that avoid my warranty? sorry for all of these questions but i just moved on android. thank you
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If your warranty will be void depends strongly on in which country you live. There is no yes or no answer.
Flash anything but an official Samsung package through Odin and it will trigger the Knox flag and change the device status to Custom. OTA updates will stop.
Re flashing an official Samsung package afterwards will change the device back to Official and OTA updates will resume. But the Knox flag will still show as triggered. Theres no way to reset it.
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