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I've had the SGSII for about a week now after moving from a Nexus One running CM7, and wow I am impressed.
I know that in the grand scheme of things it's an incremental upgrade - the main reason I left it a while to move - however the SGII has in my view made a significant leap.
The main thing is that the UI is now as smooth and as refined as the iOS devices. I don't know what Samsung did that nobody else in the Android market has managed, but they've finally managed to make things as smooth as the iPhone.
I finally get that delicious feeling of having the UI elements "stick" to my finger as I move them around, rather than chase behind.
While we all know this is a superficial thing and adds little to the actual functionality, I believe this has finally closed the gap in terms of delight in using the device. I hate to use the sickening Apple term, but surely the average user will find just as much "magic" in using the SGSII as any iOS device.
Web browsing is now super smooth (hardware accelerated?) as are the home screens. Going back to my N1 I really feel the difference.
The SGSII is even more buttery smooth than my Asus Transformer running honeycomb.
Hopefully whatever Samsung have done, whether it be related to the chips in the phone or software tweaks, will be copied by all Android devices, and we can put the nagging sense of UI inferiority behind us (and I know the lack of smoothness bugged you no matter how hard you denied it).
Let's hope Android has put stuttering and lagging behind it forever. Well done Samsung.
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I haven't used the HTC Sensation so I don't know if they too have achieved this, but this is based on my observations of the hardware at my disposal.
About the same as my view of the phone thats why i find it hard to understand the this is a crap phone posts can i have sense on it is their an IOS4 rom for it etc . A if i thought the phone was crap i would have returned it B if i wanted sense i would have bought sense phone .
But yes with Android customers have choice across a broad range of phones and that is why its winning the sales drive .
Looking forward to more Android improvements as this is only really year two of development .
jje
Dont get your point.
I find the IP4 laggy compared to the SGS2 . The i9100 is by far smoother in my opinion
I haven't used or seen a better smartphone. My sgs2 is borderline biblical!
austinchimp said:
The main thing is that the UI is now as smooth and as refined as the iOS devices. I don't know what Samsung did that nobody else in the Android market has managed, but they've finally managed to make things as smooth as the iPhone.
I finally get that delicious feeling of having the UI elements "stick" to my finger as I move them around, rather than chase behind.
While we all know this is a superficial thing and adds little to the actual functionality, I believe this has finally closed the gap in terms of delight in using the device. I hate to use the sickening Apple term, but surely the average user will find just as much "magic" in using the SGSII as any iOS device.
Web browsing is now super smooth (hardware accelerated?) as are the home screens. Going back to my N1 I really feel the difference.
The SGSII is even more buttery smooth than my Asus Transformer running honeycomb.
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u could not have said it any better
what u explained is the MAIN reason i bought this phone
there is no " lag " its just wonderful
what would make this phone perfect is a ROM based of AOSP
which im still waiting for team hacksung to finish its version of CM7
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The main thing is that the UI is now as smooth and as refined as the iOS devices. I don't know what Samsung did that nobody else in the Android market has managed, but they've finally managed to make things as smooth as the iPhone.
Web browsing is now super smooth (hardware accelerated?) as are the home screens. Going back to my N1 I really feel the difference.
The SGSII is even more buttery smooth than my Asus Transformer running honeycomb.
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samsung has hardware accelerated many parts of the UI. the web browser for example is hardware accelerated, as well as a few other places.
this is why i blast google. they should have been using hardware acceleration from day 1 to give the same smooth UI experience as the iphone. the SGS2 is not doing anything special, its not the dual core making it so smooth. its simply because samsung took the time to optimize the SGS2 with graphics chip, rather than putting the burden on the CPU 100% of the time.
the nexus one would be just as smooth. look at WP7 devices. they all use the same hardware as the n1, but use hardware acceleration and proper drivers, and are the smoothest devices in the world right now.
Well that was my point - How come it's taken so long, and a few generations of Android devices for this to be done? I honestly didn't think it was possible for an Android 2.3 device to be so smooth, I thought there was something fundamental in the architecture that was going to always mean a little lag.
I'd given up any of this generation of Android phones achieving true smooth motion, and here Samsung have done it without this development even being publicised that much.
I totally agree Android should have been like this - it just blows my mind that it's taken so long, and I can see no excuse for any top tier device from any other manufacturer not to match what Samsung have done.
Also, if it is just a case of tuning the software, why haven't/didn't Samsung do it with the SGS I ?
The "this is a crap phone" posts probably mostly come from people who don't own this. ...I know that might sound a little odd but trust me, even in Android communities there are fan-boys, and some actually go that far...
yup. time to throw my htc legend. i play the pinball game. the ball look like teleporting...
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I went from a Nexus One to an iPhone 4, and then to this amazing device. All I have to say is that its been the best experience yet. I actually had lag on my iPhone 4... And very little to none on the SG2. I agree that most people bashing this phone probably don't even own one. I'll definitely be buying an SGS3. Goodbye HTC and to their ****ty voice/speaker quality and locked bootloaders. And hello Samsung.
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Its hard to understand why people love this device soo much unless you actually ownit. This phone seems to give the feeling that android should have been this fluid from the beginning. There is no device (including the sensation) that operates as smoothly as the sgs2. I love this phone.
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I went from a Nexus One to an iPhone 4, and then to this amazing device. All I have to say is that its been the best experience yet. I actually had lag on my iPhone 4... And very little to none on the SG2. I agree that most people bashing this phone probably don't even own one. I'll definitely be buying an SGS3. Goodbye HTC and to their ****ty voice/speaker quality and locked bootloaders. And hello Samsung.
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GS3! Wow...the rumours, are TOO GOOD. Anything Apple pull out of the bag, even next year would simple pale in comparison to the GS3.
Posts like these makes me anxious to get mine. Still waiting on UPS!
If Samsung did some hardware/driver acceleration magic, I wonder if CM7 and the other AOSP ROM project will be able to take advantage of this as well. I don't want the stock ROM to be the only super smooth and slick ROM available.
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Well that was my point - How come it's taken so long, and a few generations of Android devices for this to be done? I honestly didn't think it was possible for an Android 2.3 device to be so smooth, I thought there was something fundamental in the architecture that was going to always mean a little lag.
I'd given up any of this generation of Android phones achieving true smooth motion, and here Samsung have done it without this development even being publicised that much.
I totally agree Android should have been like this - it just blows my mind that it's taken so long, and I can see no excuse for any top tier device from any other manufacturer not to match what Samsung have done.
Also, if it is just a case of tuning the software, why haven't/didn't Samsung do it with the SGS I ?
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it hasnt taken too long. the original galaxy s also had hardware acceleration in the browser for example. only the international version, but it was lightening fast and smooth as butter. it only is because samsung took the initiative and did a custom job. google certainly hasnt implemented it yet, and in ice cream sandwich they claim it will come.
i'm right there with you, manufacturers should have been pushing for a UI experience that matches apple's.
since the op is sharing thoughts about the device, i'll share mine too. i FINALLY received it in the mail today. opened the box, the device is bigger than it looks in the online review (coming from a nexus s 4g). the thin factor is impressive, but not as impressive as i was expecting. the smoothness is there as expected, but the "S" boot image is freakishly laggy--no big deal.
camera-really good
screen-what can i say? super amoled plus looks great,
hardware finish/quality-pretty good...but i prefer the smooth back over the textured back--no big deal
touchwiz 4.0-hmm, this is tough, i need to play with it some more. samsung obviously put a lot to this UI, but so far it doesnt seem as refined as other skins...for example, the default lock screen is kind of laggy, and is a pain sometimes to fully move the lockscreen so that it unlocks. numerical battery percentage would be nice without having to go into settings...other than these minor gripes, i love the touchwiz widgets.
obviously samsung has really tried to outdo itself and competitors, and the sgs II is perhaps the best android phone out there. but as of right now, it doesn't really give me that "wow" factor despite all its features. but i've only had it for one day and haven't gotten to test out the dual core, dlna, and other features.
Phone has been out for plenty of time now, I am wondering how everyone feels. Regret getting it? Still loving it?
For me I think the tipping point of me picking it was the gimmicks like hover preview and stuff like that. I don't know why but I just assumed there would be a SDK for it and the feature might be integrated in a few apps here and there; same with the hand gestures. But that definitely did not happen! No SDK and the features were only useable on the crappy samsung apps. And they didn't even make good use of them.
So I just use Cyanogemod or similiar roms. But that sucks because since sprint has no sim card (besides a 4gb lte simcard) I have to go back to touchwiz and update the virtual sim card. every so often.
Samsung sorta presented the GS4 as a life companion? I still don't really get that, but I did like the s health step tracking; that and the TV controls are the only build in special features I ever used.
THe phones not horrible but I can't say I'll be buying another samsung phone anytime soon.
I had an HTC One. It was defective and they offered the s4 as a replacement. Didn't wanted it at first but it has grown on me.
Honestly, if this phone had stock Android I would love it. Great screen, good camera, ideal size. Cm feels stable enough but I can't help but think how it would do with an official stock Android rom. It still feels buggy and glitchy.
I had high hopes for this phone. All the stock bloatware choked the poor thing. Recently rooted and tried a couple of ROMs. I settled on Synergy510's optimized CM variant. This is how the phone should have been from the factory. I love it now.
I've always been an Android fan, I had the T-Mo G1 when it first came out - several Samsungs, Moto Atrix 4g and more. About 3 years ago I started working for the Jobs Mob (Apple) supporting iOS and decided to finally pick up an iPhone 6 to see what the hype is about. Part of it was, I've been supporting iOS for some years however never used an iPhone before - the irony. Oh, and when customers asked if I loved my new iPhone, I said - "Well, I have a Nexus 4 but I'm very happy for you and your new awesome iPhone"!
LG G4 vs iPhone 6:
iPhone: I've used iOS with Jailbreak running noslowanimations, wicked fast between apps and always ready to go in an instant
G4: Some noticeable lag, sometimes annoying to enraging between switching apps - even when closing all apps and starting fresh. Once/if root, will be removing all bloat and possibly overclocking if still laggy. Maybe Android M will be better or maybe I need to force GPU rendering?
iPhone: Root access via Jailbreak - hosts file blocker and other tweaks. Many devs to work on single jailbreak for all models (per iOS version)
G4: Ditto but possibly soon, fragmented per device efforts. One may argue when open bootloader and Root, more advanced modifications are available. I'm really hating current carrier+vendor efforts to lock down devices.. Yes, from a customer service standpoint - I wouldn't want to support (or tell them they are SOL) if the device is customized, but the no downgrade, permalocked bootloader garbage is getting old (don't get me started and forced OTAs - iOS doesn't even have that). At least offer "developer" models through carriers (in b4 "just get a nexus").
iPhone: Awesome camera, slowmo and burst mode. Seems to handle motion very well
G4: Also awesome camera. Seems to be a bit motion sensitive and more care is required to prevent blurry photos. No slowmo. Cool friggin lazer tech, need to shoot more photos to realize full potential and PHOTO SPHERE!
iPhone: SiRi virtual assistant. Somewhat mediocre - crappy maps (even currently). No way to choose default apps to handle requests
G4: Google Now wipes the floor with SiRi, default app selection - more relevant results, awesome maps and email integration. With Android M, going to be even better! Questionable privacy practices, night vs day between philosophy as Google = Ads revenue vs Apple = hardware revenue.
iPhone: Default-stock software is decent for what it is. Easy to pick up any iOS device and get started straight away. Yet again, no carrier bloat (although Stocks, Newsstand and the Apple Watch app can qualify as bloat)
G4: Android carrier+vendor ROMs are always a mixed bag with each one being different with various quality of apps. CARRIER BLOATWARE.
iPhone: Available Apps are mostly slick, polished and work well - some may argue that some apps are dumbed down. Lots of paid apps, devs want money, restrictive app approval process
Android: More advanced apps, more are unpolished but free. More open approval process. I love aCar, Torque and others not available on iOS
Overall: I was an Android fanboy but after using iOS for a good year - I believe each have their own place. I used to say, get iOS if you just want something that works out of the box, get Android if you want to customize. But with the trend of locking down devices - not too sure anymore. TBH, I should've just gotten a Nexus 6 (but then I would of regretted no SD expansion)... Regardless, I'm happy the iPhone is on eBay but honestly - it wasn't an absolutely necessary purchase as I thought going in. Let's see how Android M polishes things up this fall.
The camera has slow mo feature. It's sorta hidden but it's there
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If you don't like the animations (if they make things feel slow) you can disable them entirely in developer options
Is funny how every android phone review says with next android version will get better but here we are with android L and nothing has changed.
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Seems about right and is a fairly good comparison to Android vs iOS overall. This is the first Android phone that I've had that really has the chops in the camera department.
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Is funny how every android phone review says with next android version will get better but here we are with android L and nothing has changed.
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lollipop on the nexus 5 is by far the smoothest mobile OS i have ever used. there is no lag, anywhere, and its a 2yr old device. it holds its own in UI smoothness even compared to an iphone 6. that's the result of google optimizing the **** out of it! if the 2015 nexus 5 is even decent, i am switching right back. there is no contender when you want a smooth phone other than the nexus line. however, after i disabled every single LG and AT&T app, my H810 has gotten pretty damn smooth. i'd say almost as smooth as my nexus 5. there's some minor lag when scrolling still, and switching between apps. but otherwise, it got a lot faster then out of the box new
Honestly I am starting to think something is wonky. I have the G4 (SD808) and the LG X8.3 (SD615) and both stutter around. My SnapDragon 400 LG GPad 7 on CM 12.1 runs fluid and so does my 2013 Nexus 7. Even my G2 seemed to run better/par.
I know the newer chips are great chips, so either LG has something boinked up with the latest builds or they have an app that just is killing resources. Whatever it is, I hope they fix it soon.
The locked down nature is just like you're on an iPhone. I'm starting to regret the purchase.
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lollipop on the nexus 5 is by far the smoothest mobile OS i have ever used. there is no lag, anywhere, and its a 2yr old device. it holds its own in UI smoothness even compared to an iphone 6. that's the result of google optimizing the **** out of it! if the 2015 nexus 5 is even decent, i am switching right back. there is no contender when you want a smooth phone other than the nexus line. however, after i disabled every single LG and AT&T app, my H810 has gotten pretty damn smooth. i'd say almost as smooth as my nexus 5. there's some minor lag when scrolling still, and switching between apps. but otherwise, it got a lot faster then out of the box new
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Hahaha right?! My rooted nexus 5 was like a hummingbird on coke
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Hahaha right?! My rooted nexus 5 was like a hummingbird on coke
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As was my M8 on Sense based Viper rom. It made Nexus 5 feel laggy. Lg has something wrong with it as for example battery life is either great or worst that I have seen sense SGS2. One example is the random location icon appearkng with no idea what app uses it. And thst was with all the Google location based stuff disabled. I got rid of it disabling Lg apps and my battery life got much better.
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So I'm kind of in a dilemma to get a a Oneplus 2 and selling my Galaxy s6 for it.
Regarding the specs and software experience, do you think that trading my Galaxy S6 for a 64gb Oneplus 2 is a good long-term idea?
I sold my gs6 and got the oneplus 2, no regrets so far. I mainly did it because I don't like touchwiz. I like using close to stock Android software. Battery life on gs6 sucks as well, much better on op2. Build quality is definitely better on the gs6 but aside from that this phone tops it in every way for me.
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I sold my gs6 and got the oneplus 2, no regrets so far. I mainly did it because I don't like touchwiz. I like using close to stock Android software. Battery life on gs6 sucks as well, much better on op2. Build quality is definitely better on the gs6 but aside from that this phone tops it in every way for me.
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yeah, even with the COI9 build of the S6, Touchwiz is shiity due to some stutterting with it's UI. If only there would be a CM build for this lol
I'm really in the verge of getting the oneplus 2, but there is also a part of me choosing between the Nexus 6P. what do you think, disregarding the price?
Go for 6P if you don't need dual sim.
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shigi1231 said:
So I'm kind of in a dilemma to get a a Oneplus 2 and selling my Galaxy s6 for it.
Regarding the specs and software experience, do you think that trading my Galaxy S6 for a 64gb Oneplus 2 is a good long-term idea?
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After having the S6, Note 5 and OP2 I would never leave an S6 for an OP2. The only reason I keep the OP2 is for the hope of an official CM build, that's all. If the S6 battery life is too poor for you to put up with THEN I would do it, that's the only reason. I don't like Oxygen OS particularly and after using the S6 the OP2 feels laggy to me. I would download package disabler from the app store for the S6 as it really helps improve battery life. I didn't have a problem with the S6's battery life, especially with quick charge. Obviously it may not meet your needs though since we're all different. Just my two cents.
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After having the S6, Note 5 and OP2 I would never leave an S6 for an OP2. The only reason I keep the OP2 is for the hope of an official CM build, that's all. If the S6 battery life is too poor for you to put up with THEN I would do it, that's the only reason. I don't like Oxygen OS particularly and after using the S6 the OP2 feels laggy to me. I would download package disabler from the app store for the S6 as it really helps improve battery life. I didn't have a problem with the S6's battery life, especially with quick charge. Obviously it may not meet your needs though since we're all different. Just my two cents.
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quite unusual to see from someone that the OP2 is lagging. Anyway, I also have the same reason why I'm considering the OP2 or Nexus 6p, because of the CM or near stock experience. I've recently installed some Custom roms in the S6, that fixed the touchwiz lag but not the ram management. I'm also waiting if there would be AOSP roms for the s6.
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quite unusual to see from someone that the OP2 is lagging. Anyway, I also have the same reason why I'm considering the OP2 or Nexus 6p, because of the CM or near stock experience. I've recently installed some Custom roms in the S6, that fixed the touchwiz lag but not the ram management. I'm also waiting if there would be AOSP roms for the s6.
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its very common for oxygenos to be laggy, coming from nexus 5 6.0 update, oxygenos with all this hardware is still no match in smoothness, they have ways to go. of course just waiting for the cyanogenmod to become official then you can kiss the lagg bye bye. tested the beta, and it is fantastic. hydrogenos is currently faster and almost lag free compared to oxygen.
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its very common for oxygenos to be laggy, coming from nexus 5 6.0 update, oxygenos with all this hardware is still no match in smoothness, they have ways to go. of course just waiting for the cyanogenmod to become official then you can kiss the lagg bye bye. tested the beta, and it is fantastic. hydrogenos is currently faster and almost lag free compared to oxygen.
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I have the latest OOS installed + AK kernel v15, and I see no lag whatsoever. Browsing through the UI is as smooth as it can get + battery life is amazing.
I did just that ,today is my first day with the oneplus 2 .I cant get over how heavy it is !.battery life seems a little better but I am not getting 4G which might be contributing to the battery life .I have to say that the S6 feels far more polished than the OPT over all ,the OPT reminds me of the days when I used custom ROMs where you encounter a few glitches here and there (not connecting to my wifi for instance ).
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So I'm kind of in a dilemma to get a a Oneplus 2 and selling my Galaxy s6 for it.
Regarding the specs and software experience, do you think that trading my Galaxy S6 for a 64gb Oneplus 2 is a good long-term idea?
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The GS6 has one of the best camera's available on any phone today, but the OP2 isn't that far behind (with some software improvements it could potentially equal it). If you hate Touchwiz as much as I do, then trade it in. If you don't, then don't.. Because the GS6 is truly a fantastic device if you like a phone that just works. It's basically the iPhone of Android devices.
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I did just that ,today is my first day with the oneplus 2 .I cant get over how heavy it is !.battery life seems a little better but I am not getting 4G which might be contributing to the battery life .I have to say that the S6 feels far more polished than the OPT over all ,the OPT reminds me of the days when I used custom ROMs where you encounter a few glitches here and there (not connecting to my wifi for instance ).
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If you can live without a fingerprint scanner for a while you should give Exodus a try. I cannot recommend it highly enough!
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quite unusual to see from someone that the OP2 is lagging. Anyway, I also have the same reason why I'm considering the OP2 or Nexus 6p, because of the CM or near stock experience. I've recently installed some Custom roms in the S6, that fixed the touchwiz lag but not the ram management. I'm also waiting if there would be AOSP roms for the s6.
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It's actually not unusual at all. Use literally any other current flagship phone and then go back to the OP2. Stock vs stock it's noticeable. I'd wait till the S6 gets marshmallow to make your determination if you can. Hardware-wise I think the S6 is better and that being the case, you can update software but you can't change hardware.
I hear there was a new update for the camera of the OP2 fixing the auto laser focus with filming videos
How's the display of the device? Is the 1080P LCD display not that farfetched from SUPERAMOLED?
Considering the SoCs of both Nexus 6P and OP2, do you think that the 64gb (with 4 gb of ram) would provide more RAW power than the nexus 6p?
I went from GS6 to a oneplus 2. I originally kept the GS6 and sold the Oneplus 2, but later changed my mind and bought a new Oneplus 2. (I don't understand all the whining about not being able to buy one!)
Here is why:
My main complaint regarding the OP2 is its size. The S6 is sleek and lightweight. When it comes to having one of the two in a pocket...I much prefer the size of the S6. But, phones aren't made for sitting in our pockets, are they? Also, I find the vibrating motor on the OP2 is lower quality than the one on the S6 and so I leave it turned off because it annoys me. The vibrating seems to slow down the use of the keyboard to me as well. I also don't find the quality of accessories like cases to be as good for OP2 as the GS6.
On the other hand:
I don't mind the lack of NFC because I don't keep a phone unrooted long enough to use Android Pay anyway. I think Oneplus realized most of it's users would be in that boat. I also don't mind the lack of quickcharging because I just plug in my phone everynight and I have a 15,000mAh battery charger that bought just in case, but I have used exactly 0 times. Despite all of the horror stories on these forums, I have stock Oxygen and stock kernel and get to the end of every day with about 75% charge left.
I think the TW on GS6 is fine, but I honestly prefer the stock experience. I found the camera on the GS6 to be better, but I would ALWAYS choose my DSLR for any serious video or photo of either and I don't find it $150 dollars better (The actual price difference if you watch for deals on websites such as Slickdeals).
I hear all sorts of whining about the quality of the hardware being less on Oneplus 2, but in the past half year I have owned 3 GS6 devices and two of them had to be sent in for RMA warranty. I have owned 2 Oneplus 2's and they were both without any faults. Also, if you think that Oneplus has software issues, you should see all the whining over on the S6 forums about the software problems. Samsung is arguably the most advanced android maker out there and still regularly have software issues! Samsung does not support the Dev community and takes every action to prevent any software modification (Ever heard of a Knox?). Oneplus has limitations on what they are able to provide the community with regard to drivers, but does what it can.
I used the fancy features like heartbeat sensor and pulse ox a total of once just out of curiosity...never found a need to use it ever again. The same goes for the remote control. It is a neat feature, but I would prefer to use my regular remote.
I also can't see the point in using Android Pay because it seems like half of all retailers out there still make me pull out my wallet to show my ID. Basically, at this point the Android Pay is about the same level of novelty as a 4k screen on a 40 inch TV and I'm fine without it. I can't drive anywhere without my wallet because it has my license, so I might as well carry a card in there too. If I go to a restaurant, I'm not going to hand a $400 to $650 device to the waiter to pay for my food.... With all of it's limitations, Android Pay just isn't THAT much of a convenience. So, I will choose to root my phone and do without out it whether the device has NFC or not.
The GS6 Super OLED is beautiful, but comes with drawbacks. One main problem is that they suffer from burn-in. I had one device that I couldn't stand using because it developed a severe burn in from having a background similar to the "never settle" on the OP2 that left words visible on the back of the device. The burn in occurred after a couple days of heavy use of the device and was permanent. Samsung will not fix that problem on warranty...they see it as your fault. IPS does not have this problem. With regard to battery use I don't think that the benefits of OLED outweigh the significantly larger battery on the OP2. Also, I should mention that I have a smartwatch so I could care less about features like having alerts popup on the display, but I doubt that this really consumes a lot more energy on the IPS displays than the OLED displays. I believe that more energy is probably being consumed in the wakelock anyway from those sort of events and really don't want my screen turning on to tell me about new alerts either way. I saw a fancy graph somewhere about how OLED really doesn't use that much less energy compared to IPS with LED anyway, and can actually use more in certain cicumstances.
I find that the larger real estate of the 5.5 inch screen on the OP2 is a better size compared to the S6 in my experience and don't appreciate any decrease in quality in the 1080p vs 2k.
The S6 and Oneplus 2 are both pretty lag-free experiences. I do like having the 64gb of space compared to the 32 on my S6, but the OP2 seems to run with about 2GB or RAM free, so the 4GB or RAM is probably overkill. The S6 on the otherhand is bloated beyond belief and uses every bit of the 3GB of RAM. Anyone who has spent time on the S6 part of xda has seen tons of complaints about this. Meanwhile, OOS isn't perfect, but it does remain a bloat free experience.
Importantly, the dev support for OP2 is much better and we really owe these guys like Grarak and AK for all their hard work. Dev support for the S6 is very limited. CM will probably never be available for the S6 because it uses the Exynos.
I never had a problem with using the physical home button on the S6, but after using the home button on the OP2, I found that I was annoyed everytime I had to actually press down on that physical button on the S6. I don't know why, but it really bugged me.
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After having the S6, Note 5 and OP2 I would never leave an S6 for an OP2. The only reason I keep the OP2 is for the hope of an official CM build, that's all. If the S6 battery life is too poor for you to put up with THEN I would do it, that's the only reason. I don't like Oxygen OS particularly and after using the S6 the OP2 feels laggy to me. I would download package disabler from the app store for the S6 as it really helps improve battery life. I didn't have a problem with the S6's battery life, especially with quick charge. Obviously it may not meet your needs though since we're all different. Just my two cents.
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I was pretty much going to say the same thing said here......So I'll just +1 this.
Ok, I have to say a little more...
I like my OP2, the build is nice and it's a premium looking phone.....But I've only had it a month and have had several small, annoying bugs pop up over that time and a couple that required a full factory reset. I had my S6 for a couple months and had no real issues. I almost feel the OP2's software wasn't ready for release, but they went ahead and released it anyways. As bloated as the S6 is, it's a smooth and snappy user experience IMO. TouchWiz has really slimmed down from the S3 days too and I actually liked it as well as my go-to launcher, Nova. I hate saying that, because I generally don't like big corporate companies like Samsung, but they don't have one of the most popular phones in the world for no reason. But for the money, I was willing to take a chance on the OP2 as I'm sure development will be better in a few months and even the stock ROM will become more stable over time.
To what I see from everyone I think I can deduce like this:
Oneplus 2: DEV FRIENDLY (i cant emphasis enough how this is very important to me lol), can go toe to toe with the Exynos chip, better stock experience (Cyanogenmod is coming quickly), due to camera software updates OP2 camera is decent, build quality is premium, battery is good, better RAM
Galaxy S6: build is super premium but can be so greasy due to the glass back and front, Exynos chip is good, TouchWiz is decent, NFC, wireless charging, QHD but can be a set back due to battery
The S6 has been months out now, and it would seem there are no Developers working or at least having good progress on a AOSP rom.
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I was pretty much going to say the same thing said here......So I'll just +1 this.
Ok, I have to say a little more...
I like my OP2, the build is nice and it's a premium looking phone.....But I've only had it a month and have had several small, annoying bugs pop up over that time and a couple that required a full factory reset. I had my S6 for a couple months and had no real issues. I almost feel the OP2's software wasn't ready for release, but they went ahead and released it anyways. As bloated as the S6 is, it's a smooth and snappy user experience IMO. TouchWiz has really slimmed down from the S3 days too and I actually liked it as well as my go-to launcher, Nova. I hate saying that, because I generally don't like big corporate companies like Samsung, but they don't have one of the most popular phones in the world for no reason. But for the money, I was willing to take a chance on the OP2 as I'm sure development will be better in a few months and even the stock ROM will become more stable over time.
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OK, I like the OP2 a lot.....for the money. It's a great phone for the money. You can't spend this "little" and expect a lot more. The screen is NOWHERE near as good as any recent AMOLED. To anyone claiming burn in is still an issue, I say that's overblown. I've had more phones than I care to even admit to and I've had burn in only once. That was with the N6 and that was an older Samsung panel. The op2 screen looks nice enough with no other phone as a reference. Put it next to any recent samsung and you see how washed out the OP2 panel looks. That being said. This phone is NOT a flagship killer, its simply a really, REALLY good phone...for the money. If this phone made by Samsung ppl would be up in arms about its shortcomings. But bc its made by an obscure Chinese company that makes ridiculous marketing claims we all buy in to a degree. Again, I love the phone. It's great..for the money. Don't expect perfection and you'll be happy with it.
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OK, I like the OP2 a lot.....for the money. It's a great phone for the money. You can't spend this "little" and expect a lot more. The screen is NOWHERE near as good as any recent AMOLED. To anyone claiming burn in is still an issue, I say that's overblown. I've had more phones than I care to even admit to and I've had burn in only once. That was with the N6 and that was an older Samsung panel. The op2 screen looks nice enough with no other phone as a reference. Put it next to any recent samsung and you see how washed out the OP2 panel looks. That being said. This phone is NOT a flagship killer, its simply a really, REALLY good phone...for the money. If this phone made by Samsung ppl would be up in arms about its shortcomings. But bc its made by an obscure Chinese company that makes ridiculous marketing claims we all buy in to a degree. Again, I love the phone. It's great..for the money. Don't expect perfection and you'll be happy with it.
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I just RMA'ed a S6 with burn in and got my replacement today which I plan to sell. So, it still happens and on my device it didn't take much. I hadn't had any problems with any of my prior AMOLED screens I would have agreed with you, but I used a background pic from the S6 promotional material that said "Six Appeal". After removing the background I could see the words any time I had a grey or white background... such as anytime I used XDA. Fortunately for me, the phone had a camera defect and I was able to RMA it. Regarding the burn in, they basically just said "too bad". Considering I just finished dealing with the issue, this is probably why I am so sensitive to it being a concern.
BTW, as mentioned, I have both phones and think the S6 screen is only minimally better after adjusting screen settings on the OP2. I have both of them in front of me right now. I will say, the default screen settings for the OP2 don't help the first impression and I originally thought it was very washed out comparatively.
As a point of mention just for anyone out there new to the technologies: burn in will always be a potential design risk with AMOLED technology. As any pixel is used it will wear ever so slightly. The rate of wear may improve in future generations, but the wear itself is an inherent part of the technology. The good news is that if you are careful, you can probably avoid the problem for the most part. Static parts of the screen with high contrast like the top bar are at risk because they often have the same pixels being used.
Also, "Super AMOLED" isn't actually any better than an AMOLED from the standpoint of screen quality. It is just Samsung's made up term for when they fuse a digitizer into the display vs having it as a separate layer. The underlying display is still the same.
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I have the latest OOS installed + AK kernel v15, and I see no lag whatsoever. Browsing through the UI is as smooth as it can get + battery life is amazing.
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I have the same installed, a stock nexus 5 with the official 6.0 firmware is much smoother. you'd say the UI is lag free, for the most part that's true, but once you open an app it takes a bit of time for the app to actually load, where in android 6.0 of nexus 5 you don't see that. none the less, the phone is fantastic, just needs some more working on before they can actually call it a well built stock firmware.
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I have the same installed, a stock nexus 5 with the official 6.0 firmware is much smoother. you'd say the UI is lag free, for the most part that's true, but once you open an app it takes a bit of time for the app to actually load, where in android 6.0 of nexus 5 you don't see that. none the less, the phone is fantastic, just needs some more working on before they can actually call it a well built stock firmware.
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I agree with you, I had a Nexus 5 but I sold it right before Marshmallow was released for it, but even with 5.1.1 it was smooth as hell, I'm yet to see a phone that is as smooth as the Nexus 5.. OnePlus 2 just needs some time to get the right software, it was only released 3 months ago anyway.
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I agree with you, I had a Nexus 5 but I sold it right before Marshmallow was released for it, but even with 5.1.1 it was smooth as hell, I'm yet to see a phone that is as smooth as the Nexus 5.. OnePlus 2 just needs some time to get the right software, it was only released 3 months ago anyway.
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agreed, OP needs to completely debloat their software, make it completely stock, optimize it, then add extra features to it. a rom that's 1.1GB in size tells you quite a lot vs the cyanogenmod .4GB. They need to take it from ground up to even match cyanogenmod in terms of performance and UI experience. I mean look at nexus 5, no matter what rom you put in it, the stock one was always better, smoother UI, better performance, at one point installing a custom kernel made the phone unstable and killed battery life faster.
right off the bat, OP2 users started installing AK kernel to eliminate lagg issues and battery life issues. What does that tell us? the underlying software is not very good, the kernel probably does lots of wasteful debugging and 2 cores almost always offline. The idea is there, but the implementation of the idea seems like to have "workarounds" rather than actual redesigning of the code to coop with the ROM's needs. I mean no one even bothered to create a custom ROM based on the official ROM. The first things that came out for the nexus was the custom ROM based on the official sources.
I'm sorry OP2, but nexus 5 was the real flagship killer, I still have the phone (though had to replace the power button). battery life was good for me, lasted 17-20 hours. Hopefully OP can start to understand that user requests and bug reports should not be worked with using the "workaround" style, but instead to fix issues from the foundation of the ROM, optimize it then release it. Maybe they can release a lightweight version, or a stock AOSP version with everything functional. CM will probably beat them to it at this rate.
Hi guys, so i heard a lot about the one plus one last year and din't buy it because i know that one plus two will be much better .! but i see some people saying that
1. There device is getting overheated real quick with just a 30 mins of gaming ( which is a deal breaker for me cause i do a lot of gaming )
2. They say that the cpu is underclocked at 1.8ghz to reduce the heating issue but is it still heating at that clock speed ?
3. Wile its throttling they say that they are facing a huge lag in gaming and even in normal usage ( is that true? )
4. Ok lets keep Gaming a side is the phone getting heated wile normal to heavy usage ? which mean just browsing continuously and other stuff for a 2hrs or soo..! except gaming
5. And i heard some people saying their fingerprint scanner stopped working, i heard a lot of issues with this phone are they really true according to your personal usage ?
BTW is the speaker loud enough to be heard in a noisy street ..! and is the in call voice quality is good enough to be heard in traffic
Hope you people will help me :good:
I haven't had any issues since I switched to hydrogen OS. Phone runs cool during normal tasks and only seems to get warm during gaming but I have not experienced any lag or fingerprint issues
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I haven't had any issues since I switched to hydrogen OS. Phone runs cool during normal tasks and only seems to get warm during gaming but I have not experienced any lag or fingerprint issues
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Thanks ,
So you might have used oxygen os for a wile atleast , can please share your experience with that rom.! just because i prefer stock android , so i'm probably not gonna use hydrogen os
It was less smooth. Games and heating were not an issue but everything seemed to kind of lag from time to time. On H2OS all of those issues are corrected and I've never had a smoother experience. It's not stock but if you flash it root it and clean up the Chinese bloat and use trebuchet launcher or Google launcher it feels somewhat stock. O2OS isn't terrible but its not as polished as H2OS in my opinion
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It was less smooth. Games and heating were not an issue but everything seemed to kind of lag from time to time. On H2OS all of those issues are corrected and I've never had a smoother experience. It's not stock but if you flash it root it and clean up the Chinese bloat and use trebuchet launcher or Google launcher it feels somewhat stock. O2OS isn't terrible but its not as polished as H2OS in my opinion
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Thanks once again , i'm gonna buy this, Ofc i should wait for an invite LOL..! :laugh:
Btw is that lag noticeable on oxygen os anything like huge stutter and stuff like that
Pm me for invite code
Don't buy this phone. You are better of with the motorola pure or style. This phone laggs, mediocre battery and very poor camera. All this on the stock version of this phone oxygenos. Don't try other stock android roms because you will lose most features, fingerscanner and laserfocus etc etc.. Even the notification slider has little to no use for me. You better think twice before buying this device. This is nothing like the oneplus one.
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Don't buy this phone. You are better of with the motorola pure or style. This phone laggs, mediocre battery and very poor camera. All this on the stock version of this phone oxygenos. Don't try other stock android roms because you will lose most features, fingerscanner and laserfocus etc etc.. Even the notification slider has little to no use for me. You better think twice before buying this device. This is nothing like the oneplus one.
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Does It lag .......!!! but why the hell it lags i don't understand i saw many people like you saying this .! it got such a good specs and its lags may be one plus should do something for this
I really like my Oneplus 2, but if I had the choice/money would definitely go for the Nexus 6P.
IMO, the Oneplus 2 is a good phone, feels really well built, and my experience of OxygenOS certainly hasn't been as bad as some people's. The camera is pretty good; not amazing, but it's the best phone camera I've had so far, having never owned a 'proper' flagship (not just a so-called 'flagship killer')
My main reason for choosing the Nexus would be the updates. You'll always get the latest version of Android, and the software updates will be reliable. Oneplus don't seem in any rush to release OxygenOS 2 for the Oneplus One, and I wonder if that will be the case for the Two when the next generation is out. I'm hoping CM start officially supporting the Two, as I'd ditch Oxygen in a flash, if you'll excuse the pun.
But yeah, it's definitely good value.
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I really like my Oneplus 2, but if I had the choice/money would definitely go for the Nexus 6P.
IMO, the Oneplus 2 is a good phone, feels really well built, and my experience of OxygenOS certainly hasn't been as bad as some people's. The camera is pretty good; not amazing, but it's the best phone camera I've had so far, having never owned a 'proper' flagship (not just a so-called 'flagship killer')
My main reason for choosing the Nexus would be the updates. You'll always get the latest version of Android, and the software updates will be reliable. Oneplus don't seem in any rush to release OxygenOS 2 for the Oneplus One, and I wonder if that will be the case for the Two when the next generation is out. I'm hoping CM start officially supporting the Two, as I'd ditch Oxygen in a flash, if you'll excuse the pun.
But yeah, it's definitely good value.
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N6p is good..!! i mean not good the best ...! but i don't want to spend that much money for a phone which i use for a year or so ..! i really like op2 but heard some people having crazy issues so i stopped buying that for the time being and wanted know more about it ..! i just wanna ask one final thing and end this up does it really get too hot ? does it lag ? and if it heats up how much temperature you've noticed ? i hope you are on the latest oxygen os if so, suggest based on that ..!
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N6p is good..!! i mean not good the best ...! but i don't want to spend that much money for a phone which i use for a year or so ..! i really like op2 but heard some people having crazy issues so i stopped buying that for the time being and wanted know more about it ..! i just wanna ask one final thing and end this up does it really get too hot ? does it lag ? and if it heats up how much temperature you've noticed ? i hope you are on the latest oxygen os if so, suggest based on that ..!
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Pay no attention to the trolls. This is a great device. Have had mine about a month. On oxygen and latest Boeffla kernel. Never had the phone feel hot to the touch or noticed any lag whatsoever. Camera is great. Battery easily lasts the whole day with my usage. Usually at least 4-5 hours sot. Just pull the trigger you won't regret it
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In my opinion if you want NFC and good software support ,spend more and get a Nexus. If not, you can save your money and get a Oneplus two.
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N6p is good..!! i mean not good the best ...! but i don't want to spend that much money for a phone which i use for a year or so ..! i really like op2 but heard some people having crazy issues so i stopped buying that for the time being and wanted know more about it ..! i just wanna ask one final thing and end this up does it really get too hot ? does it lag ? and if it heats up how much temperature you've noticed ? i hope you are on the latest oxygen os if so, suggest based on that ..!
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Personally I had lag on oxygen OS but with hydrogen OS it is the smoothest device I've had. Camera is above average to good. But some people don't seem to have any lag. It's worth the money.
Thnak you for all of you finally i decided to buy one ..!
AK kernel seems to do something about the lagg, so it's mostly software bugs. Anyways the sony sensor on the OP2 is really not that good. So much noise.. I really can't stand it.
The OP2 is a good, solid phone.... But, it's not the "Flagship killer" I was hoping for.
>>I'm not a gamer, so I haven't noticed it getting overly hot (like my M9 did) with normal use (same processor).
>>I haven't experienced any lag watching videos, listening to music while running any other apps...It's very snappy.
>>I don't have any issues with the fingerprint scanner/home button. I had the Galaxy S6 for a short time before the OP2.... They seem about the same as far as how many times they actually read my fingerprint vs not. Like any phone, after a few days, using the home button becomes 2nd nature. I do have trouble with my left hand (usually use my right) and when it's charging , the home button can be a little less sensitive (grounding issue while charging??).
>>The speaker is not as loud as the past few phones I've had, but that doesn't mean it's too quiet. Just make sure "Audio Tuner" is enabled, this helps push the volume up and makes the speaker sound much better (has an EQ).
>>The OS is still pretty buggy.. I have to restart more than with my other phones in the past. But it's usually minor things, but sometimes I have to boot into "safe mode" to get certain functions to work again (like the clear all recent apps). After doing this, you have to set a few apps up again and some of the default notifications pop back up.
I think as the months go by, the OS will become more stable and these won't be issues any more.
I've got a Nexus 6P on order and will be selling my OP2 as soon as it gets here. I just like the front speakers better, plus there will be better development on the Nexus device. It already has a couple 100% functioning ROMs and has only been out about a week. I suspect in a month, there will be quite a few to choose from.
.....But, for what you pay for the OP2, it's well worth it and is better than most other phones on the market now that cost twice as much. So it is a good buy IMO.
Just my input and $.02 worth
That's a nice outcome... Although this is the OPT forum almost anybody chooses the nexus 6p. That's why I like xda over other forums, no fanboys but honest opinions. (Mostly)
I would definitely buy a 6p if I didn't own a OPT already...:-/