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I was wondering if anyone is having similar issues with aftermarket cables.
I bought 2 cables that work fine in 2.0 for charging/data transfer.
When I put them into a 3.0 ports nothing happens, there is no prompt to access the phone, and the USB options do not appear on the phone.
I have downloaded the Samsung drivers, and tried 2 different PCs.
I have no issues using the provided Samsung cable.
Any ideas?
I haven't experienced this. Actually, I think the Samsung USB 3.0 cable that came with my phone was bad. When I used it, USB 3.0 would stay grayed out. I had another one for a portable hard drive and that one works fine with the phone. Maybe just try a different brand. These cables seem rather fragile.
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I was wondering if anyone is having similar issues with aftermarket cables.
I bought 2 cables that work fine in 2.0 for charging/data transfer.
When I put them into a 3.0 ports nothing happens, there is no prompt to access the phone, and the USB options do not appear on the phone.
I have downloaded the Samsung drivers, and tried 2 different PCs.
I have no issues using the provided Samsung cable.
Any ideas?
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I purchased a 9ft Amazon Basics USB 3.0 cable and all is well. Connecting through a USB 3.0 port, my device was immediately recognized, and I had no problem transferring data files to and from the device.
My only guess would have been to ensure that your PC's USB 3.0 drivers are installed in order for the ports to work properly. Since you're not having any issues with the stock cable, I'm not really sure.
I don't know if it'll make a difference in this case, but I have USB Debugging enabled.
I have all of the drivers update and USB debugging. Think I just got some shoddy cables.
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I have the same issue. When i use my Samsung cable nothing Happens, But when I use the one from Extenal HD it works Perfect
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I have the same issue. When i use my Samsung cable nothing Happens, But when I use the one from Extenal HD it works Perfect
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I called Samsung and eventually after explaining what a micro USB 3.0 cable is and how it is supposed to work, and how it is not working, they finally gave me a place to send the cable and they will supposedly send me a replacement. I'm not holding my breath though. I think I would have had better luck addressing the envelope to "The Twilight Zone."
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If your 3.0 charger charges fine but is not recognized when plugged into a port I'd check the the port drivers and make sure they are up to date. But first plug into all of your ports. It could be that not all of the ports on your lap/desk top are usb 3.0 friendly. And I've seen instances where if the device has not yet been recognized it will not pick up the device theough a usb 3.0 link. So maybe first get your note recognized by using a 2.0 connector then backdoor with the 3.0 and see what happens.
samsung test all of their cords before they leave manufacturing so getting a dud is very unlikely yet not impossible.
As for the aftermarket cords I normally stick to belkin. Best build quality for a fair price.
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If your 3.0 charger charges fine but is not recognized when plugged into a port I'd check the the port drivers and make sure they are up to date. But first plug into all of your ports. It could be that not all of the ports on your lap/desk top are usb 3.0 friendly. And I've seen instances where if the device has not yet been recognized it will not pick up the device theough a usb 3.0 link. So maybe first get your note recognized by using a 2.0 connector then backdoor with the 3.0 and see what happens.
samsung test all of their cords before they leave manufacturing so getting a dud is very unlikely yet not impossible.
As for the aftermarket cords I normally stick to belkin. Best build quality for a fair price.
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I have tried everything.
I plugged into 2.0 and the 3 options pop up to select a mode where 3.0 is grayed out. That menu closes when you unplug.
If you lock your phone while in this menu, you can change the port, unlock the phone and the menu is still there, but it will not allow me to select 3.0.
I have 2 3.0 ports on my laptop, 1 on the docking station, and 1 on my standalone.
None of them work with the aftermarket cable. I will take it as a loss as I really only need them for charging away from home.
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I have tried everything.
I plugged into 2.0 and the 3 options pop up to select a mode where 3.0 is grayed out. That menu closes when you unplug.
If you lock your phone while in this menu, you can change the port, unlock the phone and the menu is still there, but it will not allow me to select 3.0.
I have 2 3.0 ports on my laptop, 1 on the docking station, and 1 on my standalone.
None of them work with the aftermarket cable. I will take it as a loss as I really only need them for charging away from home.
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That is indeed odd. Im not sure what to tell you. Hopefully someone will chime in and be of more assistance.
Try changing your network connections. Using usb3.0 puts on airplane mode. If u have wifi on or something it'll show greyed out. It might not be wifi but it's something similar. Saw the greyed out 3.0 the other day and changed a setting on my phone and it came back. Hope it helps.
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I am having the same issue. I have 2 white usb 3.0 cables that I bought online from china via ebay. They were supposed to be USB 3.0 compatible and they look similar to the original stock cable.
When I use the stock cable w/ my usb3.0 port in rear of motherboard, the phone prompts me to enable USB 3.0 mode. When I use either generic cable, it will only function in USB 2.0 mode (I get no prompt for 3.0).
I am running DarthStalker Note 3 Version 6 and 3.4.0_Compulsion Kernel_7.0 on Tmobile version Note 3
I am willing to sacrifice (cut open) one of my generic cables if anyone thinks they can help diagnose the exact cause
I am having issues finding an extra USB 3.0 cable that performs to the level of the one that came with my phone. (My OEM cable works great)
I think the issue is that the 3rd party cables use cheap, thin wire. They can put a micro USB 3.0 tip on it... but the thin wires can't carry the bandwidth.
This is most plainly noticeable by downloading an app that shows the current flow while charging. Try downloading "Galaxy Charging Current *Lite*" and charge your phone through various combinations of
cable (USB2, USB3, OEM, 3rd party)
receptacle (1A, 2A, OEM, 3rd Party),
USB port (USB2, USB3, motherboard, adaptor card)
...etc. Even wireless charging, if you're equipped.
(It should also be noted that the phone will throttle the current flow as it gets closer to full. You'll get higher flow at 30% than 76% or 96%... so keep this in mind as you try different configurations.)
I've found that I got the best current flow (1800mA) using the Samsung USB3 cable, connected to a powered USB3 hub's charging port (no data, just power). This would charge our 3200 mAH battery from 0 - 100% in about 2 hours. When I swapped in a cheap Amazon cable (CableMatters brand)... the current flow dropped to about 800mA... or 4 hours. I emailed CableMatters, and they confirmed that it's a design issue, and that the wires are thin. They were pretty plain about admitting it... and then told me to return the cables to Amazon.
I'm posting all of this useful information not only to be helpful... but also to ask for help. Has anyone found a suitable replacement for the OEM cable? I'm looking for a charging cable... I'm looking for thicker-gauge wires capable of sustaining high current flow.
Any help here? Thanks!
If you are not getting 3.0 speeds then it's not a 3.0 cable. There are many fakes on ebay and amazon.
Only buy Amazon Basics or Samsung branded cables sold by Amazon OR Samsung.
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I tested the Note 3 for USB 3.0 OTG connectivity.
I could not get Superspeed transfers, only USB 2.0 speeds.
I confirmed with the Charger Doctor and multiple USB devices on an unpowered hub that the Note 3 does output the full 900mA of current that a normal USB 3.0 port would. This means that the Note 3 is fully capable of outputting 900mA of current for OTG devices.
I confirmed that the Western Digital USB 3.0 My Passport hard drive (formatted to exFAT) was fully powered and provided sequential reads and writes.
However, the most I could get was 39MiB/sec, which indicates that it is operating at USB 2.0 speeds. Has anybody had success getting the Note 3 to operate at USB 3.0 speeds when using USB OTG?
USB 3.0 Flash Drive OTG Benchmark
xdadevnube said:
I tested the Note 3 for USB 3.0 OTG connectivity.
I could not get Superspeed transfers, only USB 2.0 speeds.
I confirmed with the Charger Doctor and multiple USB devices on an unpowered hub that the Note 3 does output the full 900mA of current that a normal USB 3.0 port would. This means that the Note 3 is fully capable of outputting 900mA of current for OTG devices.
I confirmed that the Western Digital USB 3.0 My Passport hard drive (formatted to exFAT) was fully powered and provided sequential reads and writes.
However, the most I could get was 39MiB/sec, which indicates that it is operating at USB 2.0 speeds. Has anybody had success getting the Note 3 to operate at USB 3.0 speeds when using USB OTG?
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Hi All
I am currently facing an issue with using a USB 3.0 Flash Drive on my N9005.
I recently bought a Kingston DTHX30/64GB from Amazon and the benchmark which I did personally at a IT Retail Shop at the mall using their AlienWare Laptop show that the USB Flash Drive is working perfectly at > 300/150 (W/R).
I bought an OTG Cable from a local online shop but the benchmark shows only 30/20 (W/R).
The only tests that I have yet to conduct is to borrow another N9005 to verify if the fault lies on the cable or my phone.
Anyone out there is facing the same issue?
Is this a firmware issue?
Pretty sure the standard OTG cables are usb 2.0 only. Need a OTG cable with the correct USB 3.0 connection.
Ordering USB3 OTG
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Pretty sure the standard OTG cables are usb 2.0 only. Need a OTG cable with the correct USB 3.0 connection.
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The current USB 3.0 OTG comes from a Local Online Retailer in Singapore which got their cables from China too, but not sure if their source is reliable.
Anyways, I have ordered an OTG this time round that will be flying in to me from China. Let's see if this cable works.
Sorry for double posting as this is an update post.
The USB 3.0 OTG I personally ordered from China came today and I immediately put it to test.
The packaging and the cable is exactly the same as the one I bought from Singapore.
And the results? It's also exactly the same.
This time round, I am going down to Sim Lim Tower to get an Engineer to specially make one USB 3.0 OTG for me and I shall put that to a test. I think this will cost me like 15 to 20 USD (20 to 25 SGD)
I shall name my cables, OTG A (The one I initially bought online from Singapore), OTG B (The one I ordered from China) and OTG C (The one I get from Sim Lim Tower).
I have tested OTG "A" and OTG "B" using on my friend's N9005 and the results are the same.
The next test will be that, I will format my USB 3.0 Hard Drive to Fat32/exFAT and test using all 3 OTG cables.
Can it be my Kingston USB 3.0 Flash drive not compatible with the OTG Cable?
Please enlighten me. I saw somewhere on this forum that we need to activate USB3 on N9005 to use it?
I've been unable to get the SM-N900T to link up USB 3. I've been looking in the kernel source and doing some debugging and the USB 3 host controller isn't even registering a USB 3 device connected to the port. Just a USB 2 device. I've looked at some of the datasheets for the Snapdragon 800 processor in this phone and its not really clear if it supports USB 3 OTG, or just USB 3 MTP as a device.
I'd love to get a definative answer from samsung or qualcomm but for now i've given up on USB 3.0 OTG with the Note 3.
I too would love to hear if it is possible to get the phone to USB3 in OTG mode and not just MTP. I purchased 2 "USB3.0 OTG" cables expecting faster transfer speeds with my external USB 3.0 SSD or USB 3.0 memory sticks. No such luck.
When contacting the seller to inquire about the inability to transfer at superspeed, I was just given responses like it must be a bad cable and will issue a refund. I purchased 2 of these and both have identical transfers speeds.
Likely just get a refund as it looks like it may not be possible to switch the phone to USB3 for the OTG. Bummer.
I have a couple different cables coming today. If they both test at only USB 2 then I'm going to call it a fail.
What i really don't get is why the would put an xhci host in the snapdragon if they weren't going to support USB 3 in host mode.
Eric
I just posted some more results on USB 3 OTG support. I probably should have just put it in this thread but here is a link.
Short version. Still no luck
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=49154335&postcount=1
Eric
I've tried a variety of USB 3 OTG adapters and none of them have worked correctly. Suspect OTG functionality doesn't work with USB 3?
Okay
I have tested with 2 different 9005 and 3 USB3.0 OTG Cable from 3 different source.
Everything doesn't work. All possible test are conducted and test results are at USB2.0 speed.
N900 N9000 and N9005
N900 is the Note 3 Neo version. It has USB 2.0 only
N9000 is the Exynos version with USB 3.0
N9005 is the Snapdragon version wiht USB 3 ports but USB 2 speeds.
I want to buy this phone as I can use an Image App to control a camera, and then copy the SDXC card to a USB3 HDD.
Could someone kindly confirm with a quality USB 3.0 OTG cable that the N9000 Exynos version is capable of USB 3
speeds while operating as a USB 3 host ?
N900a n900t
I have both a N900A and N900T rooted and running android 5.0.1 roms.
Having the same results as the rest of you, ~35Mb/s transfer speeds on usb 3.0 otg with a ssd. Quite disappointing.
OTG cable: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00OZJ3BDK
SATA adapter: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017NIDXF0/
Drive: https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E500B-AM/dp/B00OBRE5UE/
Anybody figure out why the both charging port and charging cable that the phone comes with, have what looks like a double plug? One is a common micro USB port, and it seems that I can charge the phone with any old Android charger, as it will fit in this port. The other kind of looks like a USB port that you'd see on a digital camera. Just wondering what this is for, and why the provided cable has both.
Thanks in advance!
Airman1947 said:
Anybody figure out why the both charging port and charging cable that the phone comes with, have what looks like a double plug? One is a common micro USB port, and it seems that I can charge the phone with any old Android charger, as it will fit in this port. The other kind of looks like a USB port that you'd see on a digital camera. Just wondering what this is for, and why the provided cable has both.
Thanks in advance!
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It's a USB 3.0 port and cable. It allows for faster data transfer speeds when connected to a USB 3.0 port on a computer.
It's backwards compatible with USB 2.0, which is why you can also use the other cables with the phone.
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It's a USB 3.0 port and cable. It allows for faster data transfer speeds when connected to a USB 3.0 port on a computer.
It's backwards compatible with USB 2.0, which is why you can also use the other cables with the phone.
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Oooooohhhh!! So that's what a micro USB 3.0 looks like! Cool, good to know. Thanks for the help.
bsweetness said:
It's a USB 3.0 port and cable. It allows for faster data transfer speeds when connected to a USB 3.0 port on a computer.
It's backwards compatible with USB 2.0, which is why you can also use the other cables with the phone.
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Great post. I did used USB 2.0 in past. But after read your post i am appreciate for using USB 3.0 port and cable.. How can i get it from ?
bsweetness said:
It's a USB 3.0 port and cable. It allows for faster data transfer speeds when connected to a USB 3.0 port on a computer.
It's backwards compatible with USB 2.0, which is why you can also use the other cables with the phone.
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You are half correct.... The right side is the micro usb port the left side is MHL 2.0, another version of HDMI out. You need a $13 adapter for this to work. Why Samsung put both on the same cable beats me.
Reference:
http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/11/samsung-galaxy-s5-review/
rwideman said:
You are half correct.... The right side is the micro usb port the left side is MHL 2.0, another version of HDMI out. You need a $13 adapter for this to work. Why Samsung put both on the same cable beats me.
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http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/11/samsung-galaxy-s5-review/
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Not true.
MHL works through the standard microUSB portion of the plug, just like it does on many other devices. The additional thinner side is to accommodate the changes for USB 3.0. The Note 3 was the first phone to use a USB 3.0 cable and have a USB 3.0 Micro-B port on the device, and Samsung is following suit with the S5. Samsung has been supporting MHL 2.0 since the S4, which only had a standard microUSB port, so there was no need to switch to a new port design just for that. And if you look at the MHL adapter you mentioned, it has a standard microUSB plug. The HTC One, HTC One Max, and HTC One (M8) (among other devices) also have MHL 2.0, and do so through a standard microUSB port. The extended port on the S5 (and Note 3) is for USB 3.0. It's not there for MHL.
And the Engadget review that you linked doesn't support your post, rather it just notes that the port supports MHL (which it supports it through the standard microUSB portion of the port).
Interesting. I got my $12 adapter in today and sure nuff, it is usb port only. Thanks, now I find this out I think that is stupid of Samsung to put the USB 3.0 extension as another port. Not that I use it that often....
rwideman said:
Interesting. I got my $12 adapter in today and sure nuff, it is usb port only. Thanks, now I find this out I think that is stupid of Samsung to put the USB 3.0 extension as another port. Not that I use it that often....
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There was no other way for them to add USB 3.0 functionality to the device while allowing backwards compatibility with microUSB 2.0. They wanted everyone to have the option of still being able to use their old microUSB 2.0 cables along with a different USB 3.0. I think it was definitely the right move instead of introducing a completely new plug that's not backwards compatible.
That said, a new USB 3.0 plug is coming that's not backwards compatible with USB 2.0 microUSB cables. It's been recently approved, but I'm not sure when we'll start seeing it on the devices.
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You are half correct.... The right side is the micro usb port the left side is MHL 2.0, another version of HDMI out. You need a $13 adapter for this to work. Why Samsung put both on the same cable beats me.
Reference:
http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/11/samsung-galaxy-s5-review/
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Where can i buy the $13 adapter?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ESM3Q7K/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Check out the USB plug. See the blue plastic insert? Denotes SS super drives. Huge transfer speeds
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Hey, i just received my usb 3 cable (my s5 came with usb2...) and i think i got a fake one...
I bought it from here: ebay.com/itm/291161252997?var=590311054317&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
Now the problem is, when i plug cable in it USB options there is no "Media device (USB 3.0)" option... Which if i am not mistaken should appear?
I don't understand... 190 cables sold and no one is complaining... Maybe i am doing something wrong?
You might connect it to a USB 3.0 Port, are you sure that you connected it in 3.0 port?
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You might connect it to a USB 3.0 Port, are you sure that you connected it in 3.0 port?
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Yes i am sure i connected to usb 3.0 port. I just found out that my external monitor connected via usb using same type cable as i ordered (but it's very short cable) and it is usb 3.0. Tried connecting with it and now i can see that option. So i guess that means i got fake cable...
trajektorijus said:
Yes i am sure i connected to usb 3.0 port. I just found out that my external monitor connected via usb using same type cable as i ordered (but it's very short cable) and it is usb 3.0. Tried connecting with it and now i can see that option. So i guess that means i got fake cable...
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Based from my experience, buying micro USB charging/data cable for Samsung is tricky since the wiring may not be the same as the normal USB cable. There should be 5 pins on the micro end, but sometimes there are just 4. But Samsung uses only 4 pins that might have been rewired. I'm not sure whether only Samsung does this or the same can be said of the other brands, but they may be the cause why there are microusb cables being sold that does only charging and no data function, and vice versa. And sometimes the pins may not be protruding out enough to make contact with the phone's charging pins.
I hope this helps.
You should try plugging in another USB 3.0 device such as a USB stick to determine whether the fault lies within your computer or the eBay cable!
I know it says that Axon7 has USB 3.0 on Gemarena and Phonearena, but do all variants have USB 3.0?(U , G and Chinese)If not which one of them has USB 3.0?
I've got the Chinese variant and I wanted to make sure that it has USB 3.0 before I buy a usb 3 Type-C cable for transferring data.
And which USB 3.0 Type-C cables (5Gbps) are the best?
What about USB 3.1 cables (Gen2)(10Gbps)?Do I get any extra speed if I use them with Axon 7 since it only supports USB 3.0?
all variants have USB3. there are identical in hardware
you can't get extra speed with an USB3.1 cable