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is there any method to root the nexus 7 without unlock the bootloader?
i read several posts about rooting n7, but every posts needs to unlock the bl first.
and "Flash Clockwork Mod Recovery" .
but i really don't know what the "cwm" is ! i want to use the stock nexus7 rom with rooted. is the cwm recovery will ruin something original?
could anyone solve my anxiety? thx!
You need to unlock the bootloader in order to root.
WugFresh's toolkit has a friendly interface making this extremely simple:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
Follow the instructions within the toolkit to ensure drivers are correct, backup apps, unlock bootloader, root device.
After doing this your Nexus will still be identical to stock.
mythomasy said:
is there any method to root the nexus 7 without unlock the bootloader?
i read several posts about rooting n7, but every posts needs to unlock the bl first.
and "Flash Clockwork Mod Recovery" .
but i really don't know what the "cwm" is ! i want to use the stock nexus7 rom with rooted. is the cwm recovery will ruin something original?
could anyone solve my anxiety? thx!
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Yep you need to unlock your bootloader to root.
You don't actually need Clock Work Mod recovery in order to be rooted.
In fact, I believe that the Wug Fresh toolkit posted by retrobeans above allows you to root and not install CWM.
Having said that, all CWM does is replace the stock Recovery on your device. This allows you to make backups, flash new ROMs and mods etc. If you never go into it, you will not notice a difference - you will still be running your stock rooted ROM. So i wouldnt be afraid of installing it . Or you can always do it at a later date if you want.
Bootloader can always be relocked with "fastboot oem lock" anyway...
why are you concerned about unlocking, or do you just not understand fastboot?
mythomasy said:
is there any method to root the nexus 7 without unlock the bootloader?
i read several posts about rooting n7, but every posts needs to unlock the bl first.
and "Flash Clockwork Mod Recovery" .
but i really don't know what the "cwm" is ! i want to use the stock nexus7 rom with rooted. is the cwm recovery will ruin something original?
could anyone solve my anxiety? thx!
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you can use a great toolkit by wugfresh which applies root without cwm. You still need to be unlocked though
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Harry GT-S5830 said:
you can use a great toolkit by wugfresh which applies root without cwm. You still need to be unlocked though
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is there any harm of being "cwm"ed? if not , i will try the easier way of one click root.(btw, i tried the wugfresh's toolkit ,but failed to install the driver...)
CWM (clockwork mod) is just a custom recovery image, from here you can flash files to your phone, wipe data, take full system backups (or restore).
Its a handy way to do key things people require when changing or modifying roms.
If in the future you will want to do any of the above then you will require a custom recovery.
Its not (in my opinion) the best recovery for the nexus 7 though, I use the Team WIN (TWRP) recovery.
You failed to install drivers? Or maybe when you installed Wug's tool it didn't download correctly? If you go and manually install the drivers which come with the tool I don't understand how they would have failed. Not trying to sound condescending or anything so sorry if I do. But Wug's toolkit (I know it's not the only one out there) is extremely easy and efficient. I would try re-downloading and on the driver install part go to
Right Click on computer
Manage
Device Manager, Here you should see a device either not detected or says that it's incorrectly installed blah blah
Right click the device and uninstall
at the top click on "Scan for Hardware Changes" (or something along those lines)
and right click your device when it comes up and the drivers are located wherever you installed his toolkit
I hope this helped and if not then just ignore. :laugh:
mythomasy said:
is there any harm of being "cwm"ed? if not , i will try the easier way of one click root.(btw, i tried the wugfresh's toolkit ,but failed to install the driver...)
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Get the pdanet drivers, cwm is just a custom recovery, for wiping data and caches. Just has a few nice options like backing up full system data and boot.img . No real disadvantage and you can always flash back stock
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Im In Same Situation
is it possible to lock bootloader after and still have root?
Also do you still recive ota updates?
jxer4567 said:
is it possible to lock bootloader after and still have root?
Also do you still recive ota updates?
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You can lock bootloader after.
You can get OTA but you would lose root and also lose your custom recovery, and with a locked bootloader you would be unable to root again
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Thank you bummed a little do i still recive ota with unlocked bootloader so i can have it rooted im wanting to keep original recovery no custom recovery but unlocked bootloader will i get ota?
jxer4567 said:
Thank you bummed a little do i still recive ota with unlocked bootloader so i can have it rooted im wanting to keep original recovery no custom recovery but unlocked bootloader will i get ota?
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Yes, unlocked bootloader does not affect OTA
Sent from my Jelly Nexus S
So only if i install custom recovery i lose ota just im wary with nexus 7 alot more important than v845
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Sorry fellows, but you are wrong There IS a method to root the Nexus 7 without unlocking the bootloader.
Then you can have root without wipping your data, for instance, as happens when you unlock your BL. And with root you can unlock the BL without wipping your data too. All thanks to efrant with his awesome tutorials! It is in the Galaxy Nexus Forum, but me and some others have reported to be working on the Nexus 7 too.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1894717 -- Root without unlocking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1731993 -- Unlock BL without wipping
Let me sum it up.
Can i root without unlocking bl? yes.
Can i unlock bl without full wipe , when i do it the first time? no.
So u install pdanet drivers(i know, i had driver problems on my old win xp company laptop), then unlock bl, root. Thats it. u dont need to install CWM(btw, I prefer TWRP).
OTA updates n recovery: As far as i know, u will receive OTA updates whether u have CWM or not, but when u click install for the update, if u have CWM/TWRP, it wont install. It will install properly only if u have stock recovery.
OTA updates n root: U will get n will be able to install updates whether or not u have root. But u will lose root if u install the update. Re rooting is esy if u already have an unlocked BL, but theres an app "voodoo ota rootkeeper", that makes a backup of your root status b4 update n then restores it after update. N its free!! Nice, huh?
Unlocking BL shindig: So u would have 2 reasons for not wanting to keep ur BL unlocked. First, if anything goes wrong(very very very unlikely, believe me I have done a lot of crap on this phone, its extremely hard to brick), u need to return it in BL locked state. Second: Security. If your phone gets stolen n ur BL is unlocked, some guy could easily flash CWM n flash a custom rom n access all your data. For both cases, I suggest a very useful technique.
1.Unlock BL.
2.Root
3.Relock BL.
4. Install app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.segv11.bootunlocker. This app will let u unlock BL from within a rooted phone without having to wipe your whole phone. If you are confused at this point, let me explain further, in case something happens to your phone n u need 2 return, u can just return it, if BL is locked, there wont b any issues. Also, if your phone is stolen, the theif wont b able to access it without completely wiping ur phone(unless he is a xda member n knows about that app!!! lol).
Got it?
Lennyuk said:
CWM (clockwork mod) is just a custom recovery image, from here you can flash files to your phone, wipe data, take full system backups (or restore).
Its a handy way to do key things people require when changing or modifying roms.
If in the future you will want to do any of the above then you will require a custom recovery.
Its not (in my opinion) the best recovery for the nexus 7 though, I use the Team WIN (TWRP) recovery.
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I think The peeps who also agree twrp is much better than CWM is grown to the point where is the preimanant force for custom backup now. This Dev is 100% correct in my opinion also
Hi, I am not too sure if I posted this in the right place or not but please let me know if it is posted in the wrong place. I am actually relatively new towards rooting of an android device so i need to clear my doubts.
I used Wugfresh toolkit to root my Nexus 10. The toolkit also have an option to install TWRP. But the version of TWRP is not the most updated one. So, can I just download the latest one and flash it or i need to remove the current one before I can update the version.
Also, I am interested in flashing a custom ROM. But my question is if a new stock firmware is out, how am i going to update to the latest stock firmware when I am in a custom ROM.
Please let me know if you don't understand my question. I will try my best to explain further and also thank you in advance.
iOrdinary said:
Hi, I am not too sure if I posted this in the right place or not but please let me know if it is posted in the wrong place. I am actually relatively new towards rooting of an android device so i need to clear my doubts.
I used Wugfresh toolkit to root my Nexus 10. The toolkit also have an option to install TWRP. But the version of TWRP is not the most updated one. So, can I just download the latest one and flash it or i need to remove the current one before I can update the version.
Also, I am interested in flashing a custom ROM. But my question is if a new stock firmware is out, how am i going to update to the latest stock firmware when I am in a custom ROM.
Please let me know if you don't understand my question. I will try my best to explain further and also thank you in advance.
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TWRP typically recommends installing and updating their recovery via Goo's app thing, but if you know where to look (openrecovery on goo + manta), you can get the .img and then flash it with fastboot. I usually do fastboot erase recovery and then fastboot flash boot TWRP-IMAGE.img. But if you don't feel too comfortable with fastboot, then Goo's program should take care of it I think.
If you want to try the latest stock when you're using a custom ROM, you'll need to flash the latest factory image from Google to go back stock, and then update it (unless the factory image is updated to the latest, which doesn't usually happen till days later). Just want to make sure you backup anything important.
espionage724 said:
TWRP typically recommends installing and updating their recovery via Goo's app thing, but if you know where to look (openrecovery on goo + manta), you can get the .img and then flash it with fastboot. I usually do fastboot erase recovery and then fastboot flash boot TWRP-IMAGE.img. But if you don't feel too comfortable with fastboot, then Goo's program should take care of it I think.
If you want to try the latest stock when you're using a custom ROM, you'll need to flash the latest factory image from Google to go back stock, and then update it (unless the factory image is updated to the latest, which doesn't usually happen till days later). Just want to make sure you backup anything important.
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So, for TWRP, it means that I can restore the stock recovery before I flash the TWRP img right? Because I am using the Wugfresh toolkit to run all these fashboot commands and they only have the options to either flash a custom recovery or to restore the stock recovery.
As for the custom ROMs, every time I flash a ROM, all my stuff in my Nexus 10 will be gone right? For example my game progress etc. Because if I were to backup, I will make a nandroid backup which means every single thing in my nexus. So, correct me if I am wrong. Every time I flash a ROM, my nexus will be back to a clean state right?
Thank you in advance for your answers. ^^
Is it possible to just root my phone?
if so how do i do it?
All the posts I have seen go into unlocking and then rooting
gjjh25 said:
Is it possible to just root my phone?
if so how do i do it?
All the posts I have seen go into unlocking and then rooting
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you will need to unlock to flash custom zip, but u can relock after
gjjh25 said:
Is it possible to just root my phone?
if so how do i do it?
All the posts I have seen go into unlocking and then rooting
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Question - why? What do you want to root your phone for if not to use the wonderful tools of root. Why do you think fully rooting your phone will harm something. Locked or unlocked bootloader is not going to affect your phone. Rooted stock rom with recovery will not make it act funny.... Sorry not putting you out there but just asking why? Feel free to ignore me if you must...
Edit: Sorry to answer your question like the post above said you can root and then lock it right back up if that is your preference
playya said:
Question - why? What do you want to root your phone for if not to use the wonderful tools of root. Why do you think fully rooting your phone will harm something. Locked or unlocked bootloader is not going to affect your phone. Rooted stock rom with recovery will not make it act funny.... Sorry not putting you out there but just asking why? Feel free to ignore me if you must...
Edit: Sorry to answer your question like the post above said you can root and then lock it right back up if that is your preference
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I have come from an HTC Desire, which I rooted and had a custom rom (Cyganonmod) on and was very happy with it.
I am still not sure of what I would gain by doing the same with my Nexus 4 ?
any advice is much appreciated.
Is this new Cyganonmod installer the best way to go?
gjjh25 said:
I have come from an HTC Desire, which I rooted and had a custom rom (Cyganonmod) on and was very happy with it.
I am still not sure of what I would gain by doing the same with my Nexus 4 ?
any advice is much appreciated.
Is this new Cyganonmod installer the best way to go?
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This phone is built for rooting and modding. You wont know what benefit you have until you either read up and see if the mods are ones you want or actually flash a rom. Sure try the CM installer but if you dont toolkits or just basic knowledge of android can get this phone roooted in minutes.
the CM rom on your HTC will give you the same benefits on your Nexus 4
playya said:
This phone is built for rooting and modding. You wont know what benefit you have until you either read up and see if the mods are ones you want or actually flash a rom. Sure try the CM installer but if you dont toolkits or just basic knowledge of android can get this phone roooted in minutes.
the CM rom on your HTC will give you the same benefits on your Nexus 4
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Thanks, what do you recommend for the easiest way to unlock and root then?
gjjh25 said:
Thanks, what do you recommend for the easiest way to unlock and root then?
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I used a toolkit but honestly you can unlock manually by just booting into bootloader mode. Go into development and try Wugs Toolkit.... Rooting the phone is easy and all methods are relatively the same.
I do not see anything wrong with giving CM a try as well
gjjh25 said:
Is it possible to just root my phone?
if so how do i do it?
All the posts I have seen go into unlocking and then rooting
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I recommend you to stick to your original plan, its your phone, do what you like, you don't need to flash custom roms if you don't want to. I am using stock kernel and stock KitKat right now and the performance is excellent.
Follow these instructions to unlock bootloader, install latest kitkat factory image, install custom TWRP recovery, and root. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2010312
The links to fastboot package and driver required is in my signature.
Link to download factory image: https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images
Link for latest TWRP: TWRP recovery
Link for latest SuperSU package: SuperSU package
After you do all that, in bootloader menu, you can flash back the stock recovery (recovery.img), which is location in the "image-occam-******.zip" of the factory image. (fastboot flash recovery recovery.img)
Then lock your bootloader by "fastboot oem lock". You can also use BootUnlocker to lock and unlock your bootloader on the fly while in the phone, without losing your data, since everytime you do fastboot oem unlock, it will wipe the entire device.
By using stock rom, stock recovery, stock kernel and temporarily unroot (SuperSU) or hide root (SuperSU paid version), it allows you to receive future OTA updates from Google. If you want to modify your phones more while staying with stock, read up on Xposed Framework and its module Gravity Box, which is not yet compatible with Android 4.4 but will be eventually.
Just remember if you don't have custom recovery, once something goes wrong and your phone can't boot, its very hard to save the data inside. Once you have custom recovery like TWRP, you can make a backup of your stock image (which also backup your stock kernel) and try out other custom roms and easily go back to stock, then you can flash stock recovery again to receive OTA updates.
Thanks for advice everyone.
I rooted and unlocked with Wugfresh over the weekend. A lot easier than I thought it would be
Hey guys I recently restored a nandroid on my 6p from a 7.1.1 rom but I get stuck on boot logo now when j go to recovery(TWRP) all my files are completely gone? and it says something about encryption ...did I brick my device? And if not what steps do I have to do to get back up and running again? Like download rom gapps and SuperSU all over again on my PC etc..? I know my bootloader is unlocked still and I have to be rooted still since I can go to twrp so any help will be appreciated thanks.
Jiggs82 said:
Hey guys I recently restored a nandroid on my 6p from a 7.1.1 rom but I get stuck on boot logo now when j go to recovery(TWRP) all my files are completely gone? and it says something about encryption ...did I brick my device? And if not what steps do I have to do to get back up and running again? Like download rom gapps and SuperSU all over again on my PC etc..? I know my bootloader is unlocked still and I have to be rooted still since I can go to twrp so any help will be appreciated thanks.
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I am not exactly an expert, but I would recommend to flash back the latest image from Google...go back to completely stock and then if you want root and install TWRP again. Good news is your bootloader is still unlocked, so I don't think you are bricked. Good luck!
Pecata said:
I am not exactly an expert, but I would recommend to flash back the latest image from Google...go back to completely stock and then if you want root and install TWRP again. Good news is your bootloader is still unlocked, so I don't think you are bricked. Good luck!
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Ok so should I use the Nexus root toolkit and start from scratch again? Yeah my bootloader is unlocked and I can see twrp so I must still be rooted ..just wiped my whole device that all thanks
Try re flashing the Vendor.img sounds like the vendor didn't get restored
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i would but everything (files etc.) are gone from my phone...so i would have to download and flash it thru my pc right? if not ill probably just flash a rom gapps the vendor of course and super su and see if it boots up to the rom
Yup just download the Factory Image and extract the vendor image and flash it with fastboot.
Or flash another ROM /Gapps/ Vendor
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Not clear. The files you had before restore are missing or you miss files from your backup? Twrp backup does not backup your /data/media.
White google logo hanging is a due to bad vendor files.
I want to make a clean Install of factory image (Android 8.0 Oct) on my Nexus 6P with TWRP.
Should wipe Dalvik, Data, System and Internal storage, then move the stock zip file (That I downloaded from google's web) from my computer to my phone and just install in TWRP? Will it work?
Device is unrooted, only has an open boot loader, I just want to make a clean install of Android 8.0
If you wipe your internal all your downloads and your factory image are gone.
Sure you can flash the unpacked *.img with twrp, but don't try to flash the bootloader or radio with twrp.
If you really want a clean start and wipe everything, then you should flash the factory image with fastboot. This will update your bootloader and radio too.
coremania said:
If you wipe your internal all your downloads and your factory image are gone.
Sure you can flash the unpacked *.img with twrp, but don't try to flash the bootloader or radio with twrp.
If you really want a clean start and wipe everything, then you should flash the factory image with fastboot. This will update your bootloader and radio too.
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Hi coremania, I have a few questions towards this method.
1. If the stock image is stored in either external SD card OR USB OTG, even then will there be any problem installing the the stock rom back using TWRP?
2. If the boot loader is unlocked, should one has to re-lock it first before reinstalling the stock rom either thru' TWRP or thru' Fasboot commands?. and finally,
3. Is it not advisable to flash the stock rom from the full factory image using TWRP rather than Fastboot?
(As I think it is easier to flash thru TWRP than typing those ADB commands in Fastboot).
Thank you for your inputs.
AndroMani said:
Hi coremania, I have a few questions towards this method.
1. If the stock image is stored in either external SD card OR USB OTG, even then will there be any problem installing the the stock rom back using TWRP?
2. If the boot loader is unlocked, should one has to re-lock it first before reinstalling the stock rom either thru' TWRP or thru' Fasboot commands?. and finally,
3. Is it not advisable to flash the stock rom from the full factory image using TWRP rather than Fastboot?
(As I think it is easier to flash thru TWRP than typing those ADB commands in Fastboot).
Thank you for your inputs.
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If you decide to flash and test some stuff the bootloader should be always unlocked. If anything will went wrong and your bootloader is locked you're mostly f***ed. Never relock your bootloader until you want to sell your device.
I mostly use flashfire to flash stock and custom roms, TWRP is ok too, but it's easier to keep root and TWRP with flashfire by flashing stock images. Do not flash bootloader and radio with flashfire, never ever !!! There are TWRP flashable zips for bootloader and radio here on XDA, you only should use these with TWRP, but the safe way for bootloader and radio is fastboot for sure. Fastboot is the safest way for flashing stock,
but not absolutely necessary, you have to decide this for yourself.
Edit: to your first question, I never flashed with USB otg on the n6p, but I think yes it should be fine.
I hope someone here can help answer this question. I also want to flash factory image version 8.1.0 on my nexus 6P. But somehow my phone is not recognized by any computers I tried to plug it in. When I plug in the usb cable to the phone, it doesn't pop up the usb notification to choose MTP for file transfer. Then I try with Developer tab in Settings to choose it manually (USB debugging is enable) but it still doesn't work. My laptop has been updated with android usb drivers and other stuffs. I have a second phone (Oneplus 1) and it's recognized by my laptop the moment I plug it in. Please suggest any solutions to fix this. Thanks everyone.
sinjok said:
I hope someone here can help answer this question. I also want to flash factory image version 8.1.0 on my nexus 6P. But somehow my phone is not recognized by any computers I tried to plug it in. When I plug in the usb cable to the phone, it doesn't pop up the usb notification to choose MTP for file transfer. Then I try with Developer tab in Settings to choose it manually (USB debugging is enable) but it still doesn't work. My laptop has been updated with android usb drivers and other stuffs. I have a second phone (Oneplus 1) and it's recognized by my laptop the moment I plug it in. Please suggest any solutions to fix this. Thanks everyone.
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Check your cable, or try a different with different port.
In the Dev options you can reset the debugging options, i guess a reboot is necessary afterwards.
coremania said:
If you decide to flash and test some stuff the bootloader should be always unlocked. If anything will went wrong and your bootloader is locked you're mostly f***ed. Never relock your bootloader until you want to sell your device.
I mostly use flashfire to flash stock and custom roms, TWRP is ok too, but it's easier to keep root and TWRP with flashfire by flashing stock images. Do not flash bootloader and radio with flashfire, never ever !!! There are TWRP flashable zips for bootloader and radio here on XDA, you only should use these with TWRP, but the safe way for bootloader and radio is fastboot for sure. Fastboot is the safest way for flashing stock,
but not absolutely necessary, you have to decide this for yourself.
Edit: to your first question, I never flashed with USB otg on the n6p, but I think yes it should be fine.
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Thank you for the clarification. So, far I have not faced a situation to flash my custom recovery either thru' TWRP or thru Fastboot. Instead, I am using my Nandroid backups taken from TWRP and using it to restore my system after I try a custom rom OR upgrade my system with the latest Magisk version for a systemless root. So far there are no issues. But, I wanted to be aware of the methods to go back to stock (without any user installed apps/data) if need be. I read in some forums that we need to re-lock the unlocked bootloader if we want to go back to stock rom using fastboot. Otherwise, the system will not be installed alright and might cause a bootloop.
That's why I wanted to clarify.
Thanks again for your inputs.
AndroMani said:
Thank you for the clarification. So, far I have not faced a situation to flash my custom recovery either thru' TWRP or thru Fastboot. Instead, I am using my Nandroid backups taken from TWRP and using it to restore my system after I try a custom rom OR upgrade my system with the latest Magisk version for a systemless root. So far there are no issues. But, I wanted to be aware of the methods to go back to stock (without any user installed apps/data) if need be. I read in some forums that we need to re-lock the unlocked bootloader if we want to go back to stock rom using fastboot. Otherwise, the system will not be installed alright and might cause a bootloop.
That's why I wanted to clarify.
Thanks again for your inputs.
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You don't need to ever relock your bootloader. If you want to try stock and use TWRP try SuperXe 8.1. It's just flaahable stock with some extras you can opt out of your not intereseted.
AndroMani said:
Thank you for the clarification. So, far I have not faced a situation to flash my custom recovery either thru' TWRP or thru Fastboot. Instead, I am using my Nandroid backups taken from TWRP and using it to restore my system after I try a custom rom OR upgrade my system with the latest Magisk version for a systemless root. So far there are no issues. But, I wanted to be aware of the methods to go back to stock (without any user installed apps/data) if need be. I read in some forums that we need to re-lock the unlocked bootloader if we want to go back to stock rom using fastboot. Otherwise, the system will not be installed alright and might cause a bootloop.
That's why I wanted to clarify.
Thanks again for your inputs.
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I can't confirm the relock and unlock method to go back to stock. Senseless to me.