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hi,
i just bought the OTG cable and a 64 GB stick. so i thought watching movies stores on the stick on the nexus is a good thing but what if i want to watch them on the ipad with the bigger screen !!
on home wireless network thats no problem. just install a media server app and i could watch movies stored on the nexus on the ipad.
but is there a way to do that without having both devices in the same wireless network? i mean everywhere ?
wifi direct ? wifi tether ? bluetooth sharing ? or something ?
didnt got it working till now !
thx
I was just wondering if anyone used Widi/miracast with Note 3. I have LG TV with built in Widi, and its very neat, works really well with my laptop. I remember reading few months ago that we use that with Galaxy S4. So I assume it should be working with Note 3 but none of the reviews mention that.
Has anyone tried using it with Note 3? Does it work? If yes, how do we set this up?
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I was just wondering if anyone used Widi/miracast with Note 3. I have LG TV with built in Widi, and its very neat, works really well with my laptop. I remember reading few months ago that we use that with Galaxy S4. So I assume it should be working with Note 3 but none of the reviews mention that.
Has anyone tried using it with Note 3? Does it work? If yes, how do we set this up?
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If no one else lets you know n the meantime I will have a chance to test this tomorrow.
The builtin screen mirroring in the system setting doesn't work? It needs allshare cast?
In using allShare cast dongle from Sammy and Is Working fine With the screen mirroring
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The builtin screen mirroring in the system setting doesn't work? It needs allshare cast?
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Last Android phone I used was Galaxy S3 and that was on 4.1 (widi/miracast was included after 4.2 in android) so I personally have not tried it but I saw a video on youtube where he used S4 with netgear dongle and it worked. By that logic it should work with any widi enabled devise, but can't be sure untill someone tries it.
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Last Android phone I used was Galaxy S3 and that was on 4.1 (widi/miracast was included after 4.2 in android) so I personally have not tried it but I saw a video on youtube where he used S4 with netgear dongle and it worked. By that logic it should work with any widi enabled devise, but can't be sure untill someone tries it.
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I've used my Netgear one with my S4, expect it works here, but will confirm when I have a chance.
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If no one else lets you know n the meantime I will have a chance to test this tomorrow.
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Thanks buddy, Waiting for your test result. Hopefully it will work and I wont have to buy Dongle from Samsung.
screencast works perfectly with my note3 and my belkin screencast hdmi-adapter!
the important trick is:
you have to long-click on the screencast device in in the screencast settings, then the option "connect with PIN" appears! with the PIN displayed on the TV you are now able to connect!
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n3 sd800 Works with my p2tv 3000
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screencast works perfectly with my note3 and my belkin screencast hdmi-adapter!
the important trick is:
you have to long-click on the screencast device in in the screencast settings, then the option "connect with PIN" appears! with the PIN displayed on the TV you are now able to connect!
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This is amazing, this is one killer feature for me. Thank you guys for confirming.
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Not working for me.
TML1504 said:
screencast works perfectly with my note3 and my belkin screencast hdmi-adapter!
the important trick is:
you have to long-click on the screencast device in in the screencast settings, then the option "connect with PIN" appears! with the PIN displayed on the TV you are now able to connect!
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Can you list versions for me? I can't seem to get mine working.
I have Note 3 on US Cellular, Belkin Screencast A100 with firmware 3.5.28.0, and I've tried both the updated AllShare Cast Dongle S/W Update v1.2.2829 and the previous version (not sure what number though).
The adapter receives the pin request and displays a pin, and the phone asks for the pin and attempts to connect, but fails every time. I don't want to have to buy a new adapter as I use my Belkin for both my laptops and kinda doubt the Samsung model would be as compatible (although shouldn't they all be if they are all using the same standard? But whatever....). Any thoughts?
I have several miracast devices and receivers and note 3 and S4 and nexus 7 2013 work fine with net gear ptv 3000, lg bdp 3000 bluray player, Panasonic miracast streamer with usb port that supports 1tb hard disk etc. See proof in my YouTube uploads where I have several miracast uploads for note 3, s4, nexus 7, s3, Sony xperia zl, Intel widi laptop etc in my YouTube uploads. See my tag line below for more links than posted here or see some links here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0MikjCGq_I
Miracast works fine with screen mirroring toggle no need for allshare. Works fine in 1080p dolby sound. Works great on the s4 too for everything. See video proof in my YouTube upload called miracast better than chromecast on s4 where I show streaming gaming music etc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxSJ57Q3zak
Widi laptop should work with same dongles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZaDe-P_74s
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The adapter receives the pin request and displays a pin, and the phone asks for the pin and attempts to connect, but fails every time. I don't want to have to buy a new adapter as I use my Belkin for both my laptops and kinda doubt the Samsung model would be as compatible (although shouldn't they all be if they are all using the same standard? But whatever....). Any thoughts?
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I bought a Belkin Screencast about a year ago when I got my Sony Laptop which had Widi. I could make a connection, but it would disconnect every few minutes. It was useless. I ended up buying a long HDMI cable to connect my laptop to my TV. I never knew if the problem was with the Belkin or my Sony.
Forward one year.....
I found my new Nexus 7 has Miracast. Earlier today, I took my Belkin Screencast out of the closet and tried to connect it to my Nexus without any success. I then connected it to my computer and updated it's firmware from 2.9 to 3.5. After the update, my laptop wouldn't connect. It took lots of tries and may reboots until it finally connected. Then I tried my Nexus. Like you, I got to the security screen and entered the code, but it wouldn't go any further. Once again, after many reboots of both the Nexus and the Belkin, I finally connected! Mirroring worked great. I didn't have time to test thoroughly to see if it would disconnect, but it worked flawlessly for 5-10 minutes.
Don't know why making the initial connection was so difficult. I need to do further tests. Not sure if it's just the Belkin that's the problem. Sorry for butting in on this Note3 thread, but just wanted to share my Belkin Screencast experience with you since you have a similar problem.
howardv said:
I bought a Belkin Screencast about a year ago when I got my Sony Laptop which had Widi. I could make a connection, but it would disconnect every few minutes. It was useless. I ended up buying a long HDMI cable to connect my laptop to my TV. I never knew if the problem was with the Belkin or my Sony.
Forward one year.....
I found my new Nexus 7 has Miracast. Earlier today, I took my Belkin Screencast out of the closet and tried to connect it to my Nexus without any success. I then connected it to my computer and updated it's firmware from 2.9 to 3.5. After the update, my laptop wouldn't connect. It took lots of tries and may reboots until it finally connected. Then I tried my Nexus. Like you, I got to the security screen and entered the code, but it wouldn't go any further. Once again, after many reboots of both the Nexus and the Belkin, I finally connected! Mirroring worked great. I didn't have time to test thoroughly to see if it would disconnect, but it worked flawlessly for 5-10 minutes.
Don't know why making the initial connection was so difficult. I need to do further tests. Not sure if it's just the Belkin that's the problem. Sorry for butting in on this Note3 thread, but just wanted to share my Belkin Screencast experience with you since you have a similar problem.
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By all means, just happy to hear more info about the Screencast being used with Miracast. Thanks for the post.
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By all means, just happy to hear more info about the Screencast being used with Miracast. Thanks for the post.
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I've done some further testing. The Belkin Screencast is going back in the closet as it's very unstable and unusable. Making the initial connection every time takes several attempts and reboots. Once connected, it loses connection every few minutes. It's just not worth it. The firmware upgrade hasn't made it any better. It performed the same with my Nexus 7 (2013) using Miracast and my Sony laptop using Widi.
Over the weekend I went to Best Buy and purchased the Rocketfish Miracast and the Netgear PTV3000. The Rocketfish looks like a Chromecast dongle. Both the Rocketfish and the Netgear performed very well as they would connect at the first attempt and did not lose the signal. Personally, I think the Netgear performed a little better than the Rocketfish and is a few dollars cheaper.
However, both the Rocketfish and the Netgear would stutter for a second or two every few minutes while watching streaming video and listening to audio. I watched a movie on Netflix using the Netgear and just stopped after 30 minutes as the stuttering gets bothersome. Also, after 30 minutes, a lip-synch error had occurred and seemed like it got worse with time. These tests were done with my 2013 Nexus 7. To test further, I used my Sony laptop (widi) to make the connection. The connection was smooth and there was no more stuttering every few minutes. So the stuttering issues may be a Nexus problem and this may perform very well with your Note3.
In my opinion, both the Rocketfish and the Netgear are great for mirroring. It's perfect for showing pictures, presentations, browsing the web, etc. But not the best for streaming audio/video. Of course, nothing is as dependable and reliable as the good old cable (slimport, MHL, or micro HDMI - whichever your device uses), but that means you have to run a cable across the room.
For streaming Netflix, Youtube, Google Music, Pandora, and Hulu, Chromecast leads the way. No stuttering or lip-synch issues at all. It also allows multi-tasking - such as watching a Netflix movie and checking your e-mail on your tablet/phone without interrupting the movie. It also saves the battery life since you can put your phone/tablet in sleep mode and continue to watch the movie. Another plus is how the Chromecast dongle gets the movie directly from your router than your phone/tablet (hence why you can multi-task, save battery life, etc.). In my book, these are a huge plus for Chromecast, even making it better than a direct cable connection. But of course the big downside is that you need specific apps and mirroring is not an option.
It's sad that you really need two devices to become whole! I would keep both the Chromecast and the Netgear to have all bases covered.
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I've done some further testing. The Belkin Screencast is going back in the closet as it's very unstable and unusable. Making the initial connection every time takes several attempts and reboots. Once connected, it loses connection every few minutes. It's just not worth it. The firmware upgrade hasn't made it any better. It performed the same with my Nexus 7 (2013) using Miracast and my Sony laptop using Widi.
Over the weekend I went to Best Buy and purchased the Rocketfish Miracast and the Netgear PTV3000. The Rocketfish looks like a Chromecast dongle. Both the Rocketfish and the Netgear performed very well as they would connect at the first attempt and did not lose the signal. Personally, I think the Netgear performed a little better than the Rocketfish and is a few dollars cheaper.
However, both the Rocketfish and the Netgear would stutter for a second or two every few minutes while watching streaming video and listening to audio. I watched a movie on Netflix using the Netgear and just stopped after 30 minutes as the stuttering gets bothersome. Also, after 30 minutes, a lip-synch error had occurred and seemed like it got worse with time. These tests were done with my 2013 Nexus 7. To test further, I used my Sony laptop (widi) to make the connection. The connection was smooth and there was no more stuttering every few minutes. So the stuttering issues may be a Nexus problem and this may perform very well with your Note3.
In my opinion, both the Rocketfish and the Netgear are great for mirroring. It's perfect for showing pictures, presentations, browsing the web, etc. But not the best for streaming audio/video. Of course, nothing is as dependable and reliable as the good old cable (slimport, MHL, or micro HDMI - whichever your device uses), but that means you have to run a cable across the room.
For streaming Netflix, Youtube, Google Music, Pandora, and Hulu, Chromecast leads the way. No stuttering or lip-synch issues at all. It also allows multi-tasking - such as watching a Netflix movie and checking your e-mail on your tablet/phone without interrupting the movie. It also saves the battery life since you can put your phone/tablet in sleep mode and continue to watch the movie. Another plus is how the Chromecast dongle gets the movie directly from your router than your phone/tablet (hence why you can multi-task, save battery life, etc.). In my book, these are a huge plus for Chromecast, even making it better than a direct cable connection. But of course the big downside is that you need specific apps and mirroring is not an option.
It's sad that you really need two devices to become whole! I would keep both the Chromecast and the Netgear to have all bases covered.
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I wasn't aware Chromecast supported Netflix... interesting, I just may have to get that $35 dongle then.
My Belkin Screencast has worked flawlessly with my two Lenovo's, x230t and w530. I can watch full screen youtube/netflix on my computer while running a VM, movie or even some full screen games on my laptop's screen (Doesn't play well with DirectX full screen, or so it seems... I forget the specific name for that....)
psp1024 said:
My Belkin Screencast has worked flawlessly with my two Lenovo's, x230t and w530. I can watch full screen youtube/netflix on my computer while running a VM, movie or even some full screen games on my laptop's screen
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It could be my Belkin is just a bad unit. But since it's been over a year since my purchase, I'm out of luck.
i have two dongles, Samsung allsharecast dongle and a dongle from Taiwan.
my old S4 i9500 on 4.2.2 connected on both and performance was very smooth on the Taiwanese dongle but there was lag on the Samsung dongle and sometimes audio and video are not in sync (if didn't use the default video player)
after updating to 4.3 performance degraded on both dongles and the phone automatically switches off the power saving mode (which didn't happen on 4.2.2)
i noticed that when you move further away from the dongle or cover the phone with your hand the playback gets choppy and sometimes disconnects (didn't happen on 4.2.2)
with note 3 n9005 i can't connect to the Taiwanese dongle (tried to connect daily for two weeks and only got it to connect 2 or 3 times) . only Samsung's dongle is working and it has the same issues of the s4 running 4.3
friend's s3 i9300 connected to both dongles but didn't have a chance to test performance
"device status has to be official, if you are rooted you can use wanam xposed to fake system status to official"
update:
note 3 connecting after update to 4.4.2, maybe my 4.3 had a bug
samsung allshare cast dongle is laggy
other miracast adaptors are fine
i ordered a measy A2W dongle and it is on the way
Hi all,
I have a Smart TV Panasonic DT60 series, but I'm no able to connect using my Note3.
Any one have successful connected the Panasonic SmartTV with the Note3 and miracast?
Thanks
Samsung All-Share Cast Hub
Just wanted to update everyone that I also tried the OFFICIAL miracast device by Samsung, the All-Share Cast Hub, and it didn't even work well. It did connect I'll give it that, but whenever I tried playing video (via youtube or video player app) it would play the audio but both screens would just be black, and there was an incredibly noticable delay in sound compared to the video stream. Netflix showed the video just fine, but it was out of sync by several seconds.
Needless to say, the hub was returned.
Has anyone had issues with their player randomly dropping connection to WiFi?
I only noticed this because I use Plex a lot. And after a few days it would stop playback and tell me it couldn't find the server. So naturally I though it was either an issue with my server (never had problems in the past) or the app.
Recently I noticed when I scroll through the apps the WiFi logo at the bottom shows its not connected.
I scrolled through setting to try and see if there's any advance settings I could tweak but there's not.
I will reset my netgear router when I get home. But has anyone experienced this yet??
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Haven't had any issues staying connected to my AC68U over the past three days. Family streamed a few movies yesterday and last night and been playing music quite a bit without any problems. Hopefully resetting your router will fix your issue. Good luck.
I have also been having wifi issues on the nexus player. I have not updated to the recent image that was posted and was hoping that would fix the issue. I also have a usb ethernet adapter on the way. Not really impressed with the devices so far, am still using my mk808 primarily which the nexus player was supposed to replace
Edit: update by flashing the latest system.IMG and have not had WiFi drop out yet.
Elrondolio said:
Haven't had any issues staying connected to my AC68U over the past three days. Family streamed a few movies yesterday and last night and been playing music quite a bit without any problems. Hopefully resetting your router will fix your issue. Good luck.
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I believe I got it acting right now. I saw in another thread issues with the player dropping 5ghz signal. It was suggested to just use 2.4 band instead. When I got home this morning I set up a separate network for the player to connect to with the player as the highest priority and it seems to be jam up.
Only other issue I'm seeing is my mkv blurays will only play for a few minutes then stop. They're huge files so I'm thinking this has something to do with it. Other than that I'm happy for now!
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same problem. Fix?
I have had the exact same problem. If it isn't too much trouble, would you mind explaining how you did this? I am not too versed in network technology. I am guessing this is something I do on the d-link page? Is that correct?
Thanks so much.
codygs83 said:
I believe I got it acting right now. I saw in another thread issues with the player dropping 5ghz signal. It was suggested to just use 2.4 band instead. When I got home this morning I set up a separate network for the player to connect to with the player as the highest priority and it seems to be jam up.
Only other issue I'm seeing is my mkv blurays will only play for a few minutes then stop. They're huge files so I'm thinking this has something to do with it. Other than that I'm happy for now!
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markculton said:
I have had the exact same problem. If it isn't too much trouble, would you mind explaining how you did this? I am not too versed in network technology. I am guessing this is something I do on the d-link page? Is that correct?
Thanks so much.
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I've been using Plex for 4 years or so.. In my experience, nothing beats using Ethernet instead of Wifi...
I use TP Link Powerline extender to connect the Nexus Player (i also have a Roku next to it)... My plex media server is on a laptop connected directly to the router... I have tried everything and this set up is the fastest and the best resolution. NEVER buffers and i watch everything in 1080p.
Stop wasting time figuring out the wifi and go ethernet. You wont regret it.
Wifi needs to be better.
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I use TP Link Powerline extender to connect the Nexus Player
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Stop wasting time figuring out the wifi and go ethernet. You wont regret it.
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How, precisely, do you have it connected? There is no Ethernet port on the Nexus Player--do you have a USB to Ethernet adapter that works? There is no arguing that Ethernet is the way to go with Plex and high bitrate; however, I rarely ever have any issues playing my 1080p stuff over Chromecast (which is 2.4Ghz N wifi only) and I have this device connected using 5Ghz 802.11ac so there should be no issues.
Sadly, mine will not stay connected to my 5Ghz 802.11ac network, it does seem to stay connected to my 5Ghz 802.11n access point a little better. I am pretty certain the Nexus Player has some wifi bugs that need to be worked out, ASAP! It's frustrating that Ethernet is not an option by default.
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How, precisely, do you have it connected? There is no Ethernet port on the Nexus Player--do you have a USB to Ethernet adapter that works? There is no arguing that Ethernet is the way to go with Plex and high bitrate; however, I rarely ever have any issues playing my 1080p stuff over Chromecast (which is 2.4Ghz N wifi only) and I have this device connected using 5Ghz 802.11ac so there should be no issues.
Sadly, mine will not stay connected to my 5Ghz 802.11ac network, it does seem to stay connected to my 5Ghz 802.11n access point a little better. I am pretty certain the Nexus Player has some wifi bugs that need to be worked out, ASAP! It's frustrating that Ethernet is not an option by default.
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Correct, I am using an MIcro USB to USB OTG Cable http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D8YZ2SA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I am sure the bugs will get sorted out but until then, this is the best solution...
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How, precisely, do you have it connected? There is no Ethernet port on the Nexus Player--do you have a USB to Ethernet adapter that works? There is no arguing that Ethernet is the way to go with Plex and high bitrate; however, I rarely ever have any issues playing my 1080p stuff over Chromecast (which is 2.4Ghz N wifi only) and I have this device connected using 5Ghz 802.11ac so there should be no issues.
Sadly, mine will not stay connected to my 5Ghz 802.11ac network, it does seem to stay connected to my 5Ghz 802.11n access point a little better. I am pretty certain the Nexus Player has some wifi bugs that need to be worked out, ASAP! It's frustrating that Ethernet is not an option by default.
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i could argue that ethernet is not the way to go. FireTv/Ouya/Mojo Madcatz only have a fast ethernet port (100mbps max) and ac can go close to gigabit speeds. I get 833mbps on my Netgear r8000 on ac. I can easily play 20GB+ files without any drops. I even played REMUX blurays (as long as they arent VC1, which the firetv doesnt support either) and those files played just fine too. So unless you get a true gigabit port (which i know of no Android box having) 802.11ac is the ideal option for the Nexus Player. Dont waste your money with a gigabit to USB adapter because the NExus PLayer has a USB 2.0 which can only give you a max of 480mbps.
My suggestion is save some of that money you're saving from your cable bill, sell your current router and keep that $20 you would be spending on a USB to Ethernet adapter and invest in a wireless AC router, you can get a decent Route for $100.
http://www.amazon.com/TP-LINK-Arche...F8&qid=1416715312&sr=8-1&keywords=wireless+ac
Also what AC ROuter do you have? if its an ASUS than im sorry, i had a ASUS 87u and changed it for a Netgear r8000 because i had constant drops with ASUS, if you turn off Beamforming it will fix your wireless AC drops. at least it did for me.
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markculton said:
I have had the exact same problem. If it isn't too much trouble, would you mind explaining how you did this? I am not too versed in network technology. I am guessing this is something I do on the d-link page? Is that correct?
Thanks so much.
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what kind of router do you have?
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i could argue that ethernet is not the way to go. Fire Tv only has a fast ethernet port (100mbps max) and ac can go close to gigabit speeds.
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100Mbps is more than the device would likely ever need to stream any type of media one would stream on the Fire TV and it will get 100% of that bandwidth between the Fire TV and the switch (assuming you don't have a faulty cable, obviously) 100% of the time--regardless of what other devices on your network or your neighbors networks are doing. Sure, 802.11ac permits better than gigabit speeds... but that doesn't guarantee them. Also, there is the issue of signal degradation when you're further away from your router, the fact that it's shared bandwidth, etc. You could argue both ways but wired is definitely the more reliable option in most cases. The FireTV has either Fast Ethernet OR 802.11n, no gigabit speeds either way.
Sadly, the fire TV has issues with several audio codecs and just isn't what it should be (yet, at least). I'm kinda over the fact that I have to use an external player to play DD 5.1--which is part of the reason I decided to give the Nexus Player a try... that and I wanted to see what google could do this time around.
I have the Buffalo WZR-D1800H--It was an earlier model and not the greatest but it's worked flawlessly and lets me transfer at 40+MB/s on a different floor. I get around 12MB/s using my 802.11n 5Ghz AP upstairs (3 floors with the ac router on the first). If I got the Ethernet cable thing, I'd spend $10 on the 10/100Mbps since it would be sufficient but I shouldn't have to do that. All the other devices in my place do fine even on N, the Nexus Player should be working awesomely on ac... It just isn't and it has issues on N and G--I honestly think it may partly be a Plex issue. I think there are also some deeper wifi connectivity issues.
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Correct, I am using an MIcro USB to USB OTG Cable http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00D8YZ2SA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1.
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Cool, what are you using for USB to Ethernet? I have a few USB OTG cables (I got them pretty cheap when I got my first Nexus) and I might as well put them to some good use... I'd like for my Nexus Player to actually play my Plex media without all the issues! Would something like this work?: http://smile.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Ethernet-Adapter-Black/dp/B00ET4KHJ2
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I should also add that my NAS & Plex Server (PC, used for several things) are all wired over Gigabit. My wireless router doesn't have to do that much, generally, except connect my phone, Mac Book Pro, Chromecast in bedroom, SqueezeBox and a few other little things that don't use much data.
innoman said:
100Mbps is more than the device would likely ever need to stream any type of media one would stream on the Fire TV and it will get 100% of that bandwidth between the Fire TV and the switch (assuming you don't have a faulty cable, obviously) 100% of the time--regardless of what other devices on your network or your neighbors networks are doing. Sure, 802.11ac permits better than gigabit speeds... but that doesn't guarantee them. Also, there is the issue of signal degradation when you're further away from your router, the fact that it's shared bandwidth, etc. You could argue both ways but wired is definitely the more reliable option in most cases. The FireTV has either Fast Ethernet OR 802.11n, no gigabit speeds either way.
Sadly, the fire TV has issues with several audio codecs and just isn't what it should be (yet, at least). I'm kinda over the fact that I have to use an external player to play DD 5.1--which is part of the reason I decided to give the Nexus Player a try... that and I wanted to see what google could do this time around.
Cool, what are you using for USB to Ethernet? I have a few USB OTG cables (I got them pretty cheap when I got my first Nexus) and I might as well put them to some good use... I'd like for my Nexus Player to actually play my Plex media without all the issues! Would something like this work?: http://smile.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Ethernet-Adapter-Black/dp/B00ET4KHJ2
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yes my ac band of 833mbps is shared, so even if i have 8 constant devices on that band it still would be faster than a 100mbps wired connection. I own a firetv and have no issues with DD5.1 files from my Synology 1812+, by any chance are you using Samba shares from a windows box? if so thats your problem, switch to NFS shares. also wired connections are shared unless you run a router directly to your setup box without going through a switch. you didnt answer my question though, what ac router do you have that you're having issues with.
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by any chance are you using Samba shares from a windows box? if so thats your problem, switch to NFS shares. also wired connections are shared unless you run a router directly to your setup box without going through a switch. you didnt answer my question though, what ac router do you have that you're having issues with.
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I added in, it may not have posted until you already started your reply. I accidentally posted before I added it in--I needed to check on the model.
The Ethernet connection is only shared if you are using a hub. A switch (I have a 16 port Gigabit switch that connects to my router) provides dedicated bandwidth to each available port--up to 2Gbps/port (1 up and 1 down, concurrently). My specific switch with 16 1Gbps ports can handle up to ~32Gbps worth of traffic at once. My Plex server is connected directly to the switch as is my NAS. The only way I'd have to worry about saturating the PC (Plex Server) to switch link is if I am transferring large amounts of data between the PC and my NAS and that's not common--and definitely not the cause of my issue. It's actually never caused me an issue. The link between the Fire TV and switch is always 100Mbps (assuming there isn't any broadcast traffic or that sort of thing, which isn't likely).
I do use NFS with everything except the media shares from my NAS, sadly. It is a goal but I am going to have to install the Enterprise version of Windows on my PC--Microsoft doesn't appear to support NFS (client) on Windows 8.x unless you have Enterprise and I have Pro. I guess that's what I get for actually paying for it? I am going to put Enterprise on my PC at some point but it's not a priority. Over Gigabit, SMB is sufficient for my use--the overhead isn't an issue right now. That said, I do use Plex so the media share between the Fire TV and my Server is Plex.
If you have your Plex server on let's say port 3 and multiple devices are talking to the Plex server than that line is being shared, which was my point. Again it would take over 8 devices on my ac band before its the speed of your single 100mbps line.
Over gigabit smb is sufficient? You just said you needed to connect a hard drive to your firetv to correctly play ac3 files. Clearly smb is your problem and you don't need to pay for NFS shares, there are free alternatives. Also the speed of your "network" might be gigabit but your speed to your firetv is truly only 100mbps because that's the max the Ethernet port can go. I'm not trying to pick a fight, I'm just saying that with the nexus player 802.11ac gives you the fastest speeds. Sure wred gigabit could be faster but there's one problem, there's no gigabit port or even fastethernet port.
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If you have your Plex server on let's say port 3 and multiple devices are talking to the Plex server than that line is being shared, which was my point. Again it would take over 8 devices on my ac band before its the speed of your single 100mbps line.
Over gigabit smb is sufficient? You just said you needed to connect a hard drive to your firetv to correctly play ac3 files. Clearly smb is your problem and you don't need to pay for NFS shares, there are free alternatives. Also the speed of your "network" might be gigabit but your speed to your firetv is truly only 100mbps because that's the max the Ethernet port can go. I'm not trying to pick a fight, I'm just saying that with the nexus player 802.11ac gives you the fastest speeds. Sure wred gigabit could be faster but there's one problem, there's no gigabit port or even fastethernet port.
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I think there is a little bit of confusion. My Plex Server/PC are on say port 1 of my 16 port gigabit switch and is communicating with the switch at ~1Gbps. My NAS is on ports 2/3 and both ports are at a Gigabit (each NAS port has it's own IP--one is just used for my Mac and phone backups, the other is predominately used by my PC for Plex shares and whatever other files I put on there) and my FireTV is on port 4 at 100Mbps (limited by the FireTV). (I do not connect a hard drive to my Fire TV, I think someone else said that). I can stream to 3 different TVs (using a mix of a google TV (wired), Chromecast (wifi) and Fire TV (wired or wifi--same results either way) without any issues, buffering or otherwise, at full 1080p with ~12GB files all using Plex. It works near flawlessly most of the time. The only issue is that the Fire TV doesn't stream 5.1 audio (most of my content is AC3) UNLESS I use an external player (XBMC, etc...)--lots of info about this in the Plex forums.
The Fire TV does not have 802.11ac, it has 802.11n. Having it connected to an 802.11ac access point doesn't offer any real benefit other than they tend to do 802.11n slightly better than most 802.11n routers, presumably because they tend to be more powerful. There is no benefit for putting my FireTV on wifi over Ethernet--none what-so-ever since there is already an Ethernet port right next to it--because it will only add traffic to my wireless network. Putting it on wifi isn't going to give it much more bandwidth than having it connected Ethernet with the distance it is away from my 5Ghz router/AP (each is on a different floor) and the level of congestion around me on 2.4Ghz, which is on the same floor (I live in a Condo Complex in uptown Dallas, lots of other wifi routers). The connection between my Fire TV and my switch is ~100Mbps and the connection between my Plex Server is ~1Gbps. I can be moving files betwen my Plex Server and NAS at around 700-800Mbps and still play video on my FireTV from my Plex Server without any issues at it's max bitrate.
SMB is not my problem, I've been using it for a while. The Fire TV has some audio codec/passthrough issues with it's native player. If I switch to SPMC or XBMC and PlexBMC, I can play AC3 5.1 fine straight from my Plex server. I can also select External Player within Plex and play media through any external player such as XBMC without any issues with audio. The problem is that it's a pain to do it that way and it doesn't keep up with watched history, etc. like it should. You also have to manually choose the external player you want to use each time and there are issues with exiting some of them, FF/Rew, etc. The Nexus seems to be able to play my media fine with full AC3 5.1 surround... except it chokes randomly, freezes, etc. and that appears to be related to the wifi. I never said I would be paying for NFS! I will most definitely not be giving Microsoft more of my money to get a simple feature that should have been available in the pro version. As for the free options, I've tried several and they are flaky--so annoying. There is a good NFS server for Windows (Hanewin or something like that) that I've used (and actually run on my moms setup) but I need a client because my NAS does NFS. The free clients I've tried just aren't what they should be, many are dated. The good clients want money.
Ultimately, the fact that the Ethernet port on the FireTV isn't really relevant because that's all that specific port needs to be, I don't have any media with anywhere near a 100Mbps bitrate. Using a switch means that port gets 100% of its bandwidth 100% of the time regardless of what else my network is doing. A lot of people think a switch and a hub are the same thing because they look the same and kind of function the same, but they are quite different. A switch is able to provide each port it's dedicated bandwidth to each other port (traffic is only sent to the port it's designated for) and a hub is totally shared across all ports (traffic from every port is seen by every port). (I'm not suggesting you don't already know this, please don't take offense.) Sorry, I know that's a lot of info, I just want to try to clarify. It's so much easier with a whiteboard! The end result, however, is that something is not right with either the Nexus Player or Plex--I think there are issues with both considering my Nexus Player has issues connecting to my router and both access points and loses connection randomly and that when it is connected, YouTube/Hulu/Netflix all play pretty well. I, also, am not trying to argue--I'm just trying to clarify my situation.
Also, you mention if I have my Plex server on port 3 and multiple clients talking to that port... it's shared. True, but it's a gigabit connection being shared. Unless there are a whole lot of clients communicating with that Plex Server, it's not going to saturate so there should still be plenty of bandwidth for any other Plex client I might have on other ports. It would take 10 Fire TVs each playing close to a 100Mbps (bitrate) media clip to saturate my Plex Server connection (assuming there is nothing else communicating with my Plex server).
"Cool, what are you using for USB to Ethernet? I have a few USB OTG cables (I got them pretty cheap when I got my first Nexus) and I might as well put them to some good use... I'd like for my Nexus Player to actually play my Plex media without all the issues! Would something like this work?: http://smile.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-Ethernet-Adapter-Black/dp/B00ET4KHJ2"
I am actually using an Apple USB to Ethernet adapter that I had lying around and never use... Its exactly like this one.
http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MB442-U...1416754525&sr=8-1&keywords=apple+usb+ethernet
I think you can use any generic one really..
It was plug and play, didnt ask for anything, it just said it was connected to Ethernet when I checked.
If anyone else is having connection issues check you Date and Time. My Nexus Player was connected but but none of the apps could connect to anything. Upon checking dmesg I saw a lot of these error exceptions
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Caused by: com.android.org.bouncycastle.jce.exception.ExtCertPathValidatorException: Could not validate certificate: Certificate not valid until Fri Apr 05 09:15:55 MDT 2013 (compared to Fri Dec 31 19:41:48 MST 1999)
Turns out all the Google apps use SSL and since my date was set to 1999 the certs showed up as invalid, I have automatic time turned on.
So for now just set your date manually and don't use Automatic Date&Time.
My NP is only able to connect to 2.4Ghz wireless. I have 2 different SSID's (2.4 and 5.0) and NP can see the 5.0, but gives an error that it can't find the network after you enter the password and try to connect.
The NP also keeps on dropping the 2.4Ghz Wi-Fi connection. I have many wireless devices on this network on both 2.4 and 5.0 Ghz working just fine so I know that the router is not the issue. (Asus RT-N66U)
I'm seeing similar issues, problems with 2.4ghz and worse with 5ghz. I'm using a USB to ethernet adapter and it was working pretty well when I was home. I left for the weekend so I only got a few hours to play with it but no issues
I too had trouble connecting to 5Ghz until I manually set the channel to 48 in my ASUS DSL-AC68U router. It won't connect to any 3 digit 5Ghz channels like 149 etc.
I am having issues with most 1080p content, even over Ethernet. There are just issues with the device and with Plex that need to be worked out. Google needs to get to work on it now!
Hi guys I have a quick question. What do you think about Ethernet vs WiFi in terms of performance of internet.
Obviously Ethernet is better and solid option but can I go with WiFi and expect 100% of Game Streaming, 4K streaming etc. Shield is AC compatible I picked up Linksys 1900AC today for OpenWRT and well ...this guy. And thinking right now if I should run a wire (Router will be in a separate room from Shield) or stick with WiFi.
My internet is 50 by 25 and because right now I do not have AC router I am using N router and I am getting around 15Mbps (out of 50) when using phone standing in same place where my Shield will be.
Thinking 1900AC will give me better speeds will I be able to do whatever I want ?
I know it's a tough say because unless you try you will not know but in general what is your experience with Shield ? Ethernet or WiFi ?
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I have this HUUUUGE movie library on PC and I would love to access it with Shield. I am not sure yet on what I'll use as streaming server. I really hope I can use my new 1900AC router with some sort of Streaming server on OpenWRT platform so I don't have to turn on my main computer every time I want to watch something from my library. I mean there is KODI but let's say I want my own BluRay rips ... what is best method right now for Streaming such videos ? (most rips are in MKV)
I have same router and use them together in the same room. But have no problem steaming when i take the shield downstairs. I use VLC to stream
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A wired connection is always superior. If you have the option to run a cable, do it.
That doesn't mean you can't be happy with ac wifi. With good conditions it's totally fine for streaming.
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Homeplug is another option.
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Homeplug is another option.
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I have Devolo homeplugs in my house, but I got terrible results with the Shield TV. I had trouble using Geforce Now with really crappy performance.
I unplugged it and went to wifi when trying out an FTP program (you can't have both wifi and ethernet connected), and performance went way up with WIFI.
my experience with wifi has always been bad (maybe because i live in a block of units with lots of routers around)
I don't trust it for anything as intensive as streaming.
I have no issues whatsoever besides an occasional microstutter when streaming games. I need to explain that i have a pretty optimal setup though. smaller home, centrally placed router, and 110mbps internet.
Using 802.11AC will probably help. I have my router in another room in my apartment, and there's a lot of 2.4GHz wifi traffic, but 5GHz is a lot more sparse. For 5GHz, I've found that line of sight isn't as important as an unobstructed path. For example, there's already a wall between the router and my TV setup, but if I close the door between the rooms, the signal drops by 5dB.
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I have Devolo homeplugs in my house, but I got terrible results with the Shield TV. I had trouble using Geforce Now with really crappy performance.
I unplugged it and went to wifi when trying out an FTP program (you can't have both wifi and ethernet connected), and performance went way up with WIFI.
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Try updating the firmware for the homeplugs. That can make quite a difference. If you're good with electronics, you can hack them to run over phone line and get nearly all of the advertised speed.
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Try updating the firmware for the homeplugs. That can make quite a difference. If you're good with electronics, you can hack them to run over phone line and get nearly all of the advertised speed.
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They are all updated. The managing program reports 200 Mbit connection between that one and the base that's connected to the router, so it should be plenty to pass my 100 megabit line along.
200Mbps is pretty old. 500Mbps and above seems to be the norm nowadays.
Doesn't the Shield have gigabit? Then wired will be way better than even AC.
Mine is wired.
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Doesn't the Shield have gigabit? Then wired will be way better than even AC.
Mine is wired.
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Only if you have another device that can transmit at 125MB/s. Most won't, so the difference is negligible unless you have a crappy WiFi signal.
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200Mbps is pretty old. 500Mbps and above seems to be the norm nowadays.
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The plugs are 500 mbps theoretical speed. The wiring in your house will determine how fast they actually function.
Hi everybody,
does anybody know how to setup at the nvidia shield tv, that it is prefering 5 ghz wlan (AC)?
I have one SSID with bgn 2,4 ghz and ac with 5 ghz.. The Shield is always connecting to 2,4 ghz.
The Problem is then that i cant stream 4k uhd content with 2,4 ghz - with 5 ghz no problem...
Thanks!
chrizz
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Hi everybody,
does anybody know how to setup at the nvidia shield tv, that it is prefering 5 ghz wlan (AC)?
I have one SSID with bgn 2,4 ghz and ac with 5 ghz.. The Shield is always connecting to 2,4 ghz.
The Problem is then that i cant stream 4k uhd content with 2,4 ghz - with 5 ghz no problem...
Thanks!
chrizz
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The easiest way is to split the 2.4GHz and 5GHz SSIDs into different names.
Well i know that it will work when i use different ssids.
But i dont want to do that.. Because i want one SSID for all my devices to use up and downstairs..
Is there a way if i want to use only one SSID?! Thanks
80211ac will run whatever you throw at it content wise. 50mbps is decent but tcp overhead will eat about 8mbps and then you have to split that between all devices on the network. To stream say uhd, that's not gonna cut it, even if it's hevc. But 720 and below should be fine.
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Well i know that it will work when i use different ssids.
But i dont want to do that.. Because i want one SSID for all my devices to use up and downstairs..
Is there a way if i want to use only one SSID?! Thanks
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Sideload this app: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.dzitrone.wifi.five
Not sure if it will work on the Shield but I use it on my phone and it works fine, it briefly sets the wifi preference to 5GHz after a couple of minutes when connecting to the wifi and forces the devices to swap to 5GHz. I've had no issues with it.
I have both gigabit and ac wireless at home, and for streaming, I have not noticed any difference between the two. I still use wired anyway as I already have a gigabit switch to serve everything around the TV.
As for powerlines, they're only as good as your home electrical wiring. They offer better latency than wireless, but I found in poorly wired homes, they gave poor speeds.
Hello,
is it possible to share my smartphone's internet connection with the Fire HD 10 (2019) via USB tethering? So far I have not been able to do it.
I have a Galaxy S9+ where the 5 GHz channel is fixed and unfortunately not recognised by the Fire HD.
Because of this and because the 2.4 GHz connection is not fast enough for me, WLAN is out for now.
Kleriger said:
Hello,
is it possible to share my smartphone's internet connection with the Fire HD 10 (2019) via USB tethering? So far I have not been able to do it.
I have a Galaxy S9+ where the 5 GHz channel is fixed and unfortunately not recognised by the Fire HD.
Because of this and because the 2.4 GHz connection is not fast enough for me, WLAN is out for now.
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if you have that problem try getting a dual band router
or if you're running a hotspot off of your phone then just get a usb-c to usb-c then a app that enables tethering i guess
look at this thread https://android.stackexchange.com/q...-tether-my-android-tablet-to-my-android-phone