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Just have a few questions and concerns about moving to this phone, figured I'd give it a shot and see what the collective group thought...
Background: Coming from a GS3 (T999L LTE model) and avid hater of KNOX and stupid warranty bit tripping issues, lock outs and general d*cking around the device manufacturer does to the device to make tinkering next to impossible. I understand there is a similar situation with the G2, and also understand there *might* be ways to work around it?
1. Seeing as the new OTA has gone live for the G2 on Tmo, how likely is it that I'll receive a new unit with the update on it?
1a. If I get one without the latest update, how easy is it to then root/custom recovery/update retaining all of those2. I'm perfectly cool using the stock ROM, I mostly just root for debloating and ad-blocking (I love supporting devs, some don't have ad-less options though). How much bloat might I encounter and are they easily disabled (without need for root).
3. Are there any goofy folder setups in the internal SD card? (meaning on the GS3, once you went to 4.3 it changed the layout to /sdcard/0/DCIM versus the original /sdcard/DCIM)
4. I've grown very accustomed to using the volume rocker to change tracks when I'm in the car, so I don't have to look down for the next arrow...Is this an option that is baked in or will I need to use Xposed?
4a. Is Xposed working on the latest official ROM? I've seen people having it working and others saying it doesnt5. I really want a wallet style case for my device, nothing special, maybe 2 slots to carry a burner debit card (I'm notorious for forgetting my wallet and want to carry a card with my phone since I never forget it). What would you recommend? I've seen the Poetic Flipbook (http://goo.gl/eGf0XL) and feel like it would be a good fit for what I'm looking for...Thoughts?
Thanks for your time, can't wait to jump ship to the G2!
thetolsonator said:
Just have a few questions and concerns about moving to this phone, figured I'd give it a shot and see what the collective group thought...
Background: Coming from a GS3 (T999L LTE model) and avid hater of KNOX and stupid warranty bit tripping issues, lock outs and general d*cking around the device manufacturer does to the device to make tinkering next to impossible. I understand there is a similar situation with the G2, and also understand there *might* be ways to work around it?
1. Seeing as the new OTA has gone live for the G2 on Tmo, how likely is it that I'll receive a new unit with the update on it?
1a. If I get one without the latest update, how easy is it to then root/custom recovery/update retaining all of those2. I'm perfectly cool using the stock ROM, I mostly just root for debloating and ad-blocking (I love supporting devs, some don't have ad-less options though). How much bloat might I encounter and are they easily disabled (without need for root).
3. Are there any goofy folder setups in the internal SD card? (meaning on the GS3, once you went to 4.3 it changed the layout to /sdcard/0/DCIM versus the original /sdcard/DCIM)
4. I've grown very accustomed to using the volume rocker to change tracks when I'm in the car, so I don't have to look down for the next arrow...Is this an option that is baked in or will I need to use Xposed?
4a. Is Xposed working on the latest official ROM? I've seen people having it working and others saying it doesnt5. I really want a wallet style case for my device, nothing special, maybe 2 slots to carry a burner debit card (I'm notorious for forgetting my wallet and want to carry a card with my phone since I never forget it). What would you recommend? I've seen the Poetic Flipbook (http://goo.gl/eGf0XL) and feel like it would be a good fit for what I'm looking for...Thoughts?
Thanks for your time, can't wait to jump ship to the G2!
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well lets begin-
1)about it coming wit the update I would not know I'd say 50/50 chance(if it's on the latest 4.4.2 it is not rootable you would have to flash back to 4.2.2 using this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2432476 then follow this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2673736 to get to kit kat with root and custom recovery)
2)yes each variant has it's amount of bloat but some are worse than others and it can be easily be removed except for the ciq which can be disabled on 4.2.2 but on kk it's giving issues
3)yes it is sdcard/0/dcim
4)I grew used to that feature two but I have not looked for a replacement but iknow g2 exposed has that option but until xposed framework gets updated to 2.5 it will not work on kitkat but works without issues on 4.2.2
5)as for case I use spigen so I don't have any recommendations but check out the g2 accessories thread and you can find help there and look through the stuf that has been reviewed already
yea it's an awesome phone
To be honest the g2 is and awesome device but the nexus 5 comes with no bloat and is stock android out of the box g2 is a great device but get its more bugfree twin nexus 5 is prob around the same price as the g2 and your going to T-Mobile I would go with nexus 5
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I wanted to express how bad I feel towards AT&T (and Samsung to some degree) with their locked down-ness and all their crap baked in the ROM.
Like many of you, I updated to NC2 4.4.2 OTA thinking there would be root in no time, and even thought it would not be a big deal even without root. I realize how foolish I was, and it looks like there's no more development going on for NC2 ROMs. It made me look back and thank all the developers out there again.
I hate that AT&T address book popups time by time when I never use that crap.
Also there are so many craps now that I can't remove because I have no root. (I have about 50 crapapps disabled!!!)
Samsung MyMagazine (rip off of HTC One's home screen, which sucks too, but theirs can be disabled) and Flipboard sucks.
ANT service - whatever that is, and so many other crap that can't be disabled. I went to google store and rated most of those bundled softwares 1 star feedback. If everyone does this, maybe the software developers will stop bundling apps.
The phone slows down quite often, even without power saving mode enabled. Turning the screen on to check what time it is sometimes have up to 2 second delays.
USB 3.0 is half-assed. I wonder why they even included it.
Compass is wacky time by time.
Non existent Odin full flash image going back to stock, like in old days. WTF AT&T?
AT&T wifi profile is permanent in wifi profiles. Lot of times, I don't want to connect to that, but it keeps trying.
No root means no Greenify, no AppOpX, no AdBlock, no TitaniumBackup, no xyz, ..., eventually no reason to come to xda-developers forum. I mean, for xda members, first thing you do with Android device is root.
Here's why I think there will be no root for this device.
T-mobile version of Note3 is bootloader unlocked. There's no way any developer would buy the AT&T version over T-mobile version.
Small community. There are so few users with AT&T Note3 compared to other versions.
Pledge of donation thread for root or bootloader unlock is racking up pretty high, and still nothing. I don't think any developer is waiting for the reward to grow bigger.
How many of you are moving on because the NC2 update, to a different phone? What make and model, and reason?
I just bought a 32GB Moto X developer edition for $350. I know it's a good phone because I tried Moto X couple months back.
I will miss the big screen, long battery time, and especially the digitizer pen.
I'm slowly beginning to get to where you are at. Although, I am very happy with my device on stock 4.4.2, we just don't have the options that we want. For that reason, and that reason alone, I will be making the jump to the G3 when it gets released.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note 3.
Bye.
Moderator Comment: You have many options of which you can avail; you can also post about your departure in the off-topic/other-device thread. Thread closed.
Good luck and happy flashing!
Hello XDA!
I'm about to purchase a note 4 tomorrow from Wind mobile here in Canada. I would have preferred the nexus 6 but its just not available with wind as of yet.
So my questions regarding the note 4 are:
1) The Note 4 variant would be SM-N910W8, will it allow rooting?
2) Does Samsung allow unlocking the bootloader to install custom roms or is just a root sufficient to do that.
3) I've heard of something called knox, and how it will trigger once you root the note 4. Will this have any adverse effects on app functionality such as tap2pay etc..? I know the warranty will be void, but if something goes wrong with the device its a 50/50 chance of getting it repaired replaced.
4) My reason of preference for the N6 was stock android, is there a ROM currently that is AOSP based?
5) Is there a specific thread i can go to find roms for my variant?
5) Is there a way to return back to a virgin note 4 (unrooted, stock ROM)? And even when that is done, will knox still reflect the trigger as 0x1?
6) Lastly, i havent been much of a fan of samsung because i felt they were pushing out "cheap phones" And i must admit, ever since they came with the metal band with their alpha and note 4. Ive taken a great liking to them. So my question (I do only expect general replies) , How are you guys/girls liking your note 4 so far?
Thanks in advanced!
(P.S sorry if some of the questions are stupid, i researched and dug around as much as i can but couldnt find definitive answers)
Rooting restriction is carrier based. Some carriers lock down from rooting, others dont.
Knox is a one way trip. Once tripped it stays that way. It is effectively a fuse.
Had my N4 for two weeks and am loving it. Came from a rooted S4. Not really missing root that much. Wish I could still turn GPS on and off with Tasker and wish I had better access to the SD card. Not big deals though. There is another thread here about non-rooted solutions to many things people want root for.
Might become more an issue in a couple years if Samsung/Verizon fails to do timely updates.
Best advice to new N4 users is learn to use the S Pen. It is what makes the N4 stand out.
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1. No it doesnt allow rooting. get a 910U - so far it seems the least hassle.
2. no rooting.
3. yes once you try to root your warranty is void. for all purposes assume you will never get root. then again, you dont need root. in fact having no root and knox is much better. you can have a dual personality phone which works very well.
4. irrelevant. if you get the note 4 expect to run factory.
5. no. you cant have root.
6. you need a full case to hold it. its a thin glass panel. ive got an iblason armorbox for it. also would recommend buying the wireless back and wireless chargers. cables are too much of a hassle on this phone.
My recommendation would be little biased towards Samsung given my last four phones were all galaxy. I never had to root Note 3 but I rooted Note 4 in few days of owning it. Google must have thought let's give some punch to Samsung by disabling write access to external SD giving excuse of security as Samsung is the only high end phone manufacturer that still has it. And one of the most used function that was very important to me was copying files off network share to SD which no longer worked. Only for this I rooted.
I buy Note series not for amoled or big screen or good battery life or running AOSPs. I buy for SPen. I snap, print screen, doodle and write catchy text and share, adds that special touch. And that Microsoft One Note supported inking in android, I am loving it even more.
Note 4
Thanks for the input guys, much appreciated!
While it seems most of you use the note 4 for its main purpose of being a multitasking phone. I on the other end just need the good camera, screen and battery. Everything else is gimmicks (for me atleast). However, this opinion of mine could be due to the fact that ive never owned a note before.
I did see some guides of being able to root the SM-N910W8 with CF auto root, as well as a way of bringing devices back to stock as i can see form this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/ref-stock-firmware-kernel-modem-recovery-t2920452
Now, is that really the case or is there somehting im not seeing?
you can NEVER bring it back to stock. the efuse blows once you root. Do NOT root a note 4 until youre familiar enough with knox to make the choice
By stock i dont mean resetting the knox fuse. I mean, if I am on a cusotm rom, i can bring it back to stock for warranty purposes (which I know after the knox fuse is blown, is a hit and miss)
So my question still stands, will I be able to root my phone based on the thread i mentioned above and be able to return it to stock afterwards, or is there something im not seeing there.
qwertyman007 said:
Hello XDA!
I'm about to purchase a note 4 tomorrow from Wind mobile here in Canada. I would have preferred the nexus 6 but its just not available with wind as of yet.
So my questions regarding the note 4 are:
1) The Note 4 variant would be SM-N910W8, will it allow rooting?
2) Does Samsung allow unlocking the bootloader to install custom roms or is just a root sufficient to do that.
3) I've heard of something called knox, and how it will trigger once you root the note 4. Will this have any adverse effects on app functionality such as tap2pay etc..? I know the warranty will be void, but if something goes wrong with the device its a 50/50 chance of getting it repaired replaced.
4) My reason of preference for the N6 was stock android, is there a ROM currently that is AOSP based?
5) Is there a specific thread i can go to find roms for my variant?
5) Is there a way to return back to a virgin note 4 (unrooted, stock ROM)? And even when that is done, will knox still reflect the trigger as 0x1?
6) Lastly, i havent been much of a fan of samsung because i felt they were pushing out "cheap phones" And i must admit, ever since they came with the metal band with their alpha and note 4. Ive taken a great liking to them. So my question (I do only expect general replies) , How are you guys/girls liking your note 4 so far?
Thanks in advanced!
(P.S sorry if some of the questions are stupid, i researched and dug around as much as i can but couldnt find definitive answers)
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I have a Note 4 with Bell so to answer your questions:
1) Yes. This is true for all Canadian carriers AFAIK.
2,4) Should be sufficient with just a root. I haven't been around for a week so I haven't caught up on new developments yet. I didn't see much in the way of AOSP last I looked.
3) This I can't answer but I know for example there is an XPosed module that will allow applications like GOOD to continue to work even with KNOX tripped/removed.
5) The W8 is similar to the 910T. I'm actually running DynamicKat with the KTNote4 Kernel. When you install DK part of the install script checks if your phone is a 910T or a 910W8 and installs the correct kernel. I had an issue with my initial flash of it bootlooping but I used the Stockish kernel from twistedumbrella that I had flashed when I still running stock rooted and backed up the boot image so I restored that boot image and it booted, then I flashed KTNote4 myself. Check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/development and here http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4-tmobile/orig-development for roms/kernels.
6) Yes you can just flash a stock rom (should be floating around somewhere) but Knox will still be tripped.
7) Overall I'm absolutely loving it. I came from an S3 that I was running CM11 on with KT's kernel (seriously, his kernels are amazing!) and I liked it for a really long time but it started to get really sluggish and it just can't handle multitasking the way I'd like it. I do still notice slow downs, and the phone does still get pretty hot sometimes, but that's the price you pay for multi-tasking. KTs kernel certainly isn't perfected (granted I'm on a build from 2 weeks ago) and sometimes it will randomly reboot and bootloop at the splash screen but once I clear cache it boots right up. Usually only does this once it's been pretty hot for a while. I love the multitasking windows, that's exactly what I want. The one thing that threw me off the most was the DPI. It's a big phone, I don't need everything on it to be gigantic. So I did end up using the XPosed module App Settings to scale the DPI down to 480 from 640. There are a couple quirks when doing that, like the task switcher is smaller (since it was designed for 640 DPI) and there are a couple apps that you have to set back to 640 as well like the camera but you can always fix those as you find them.
I'm a firm believer that Android is a dev's playground. I could not use this phone happily without root. In fact, I rooted it the same night I got it within a couple hours. I bought the phone outright since I would have had to change my plan if I wanted to early upgrade and my plan is too good to do that. Happy modding!
Just use Autoinput. Can trigger GPS.
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I need to replace my GS3, rooted, and it appears that the Note 5 will not have a removable battery. That is the deal breaker for me. I could live without SD slot with 128GB internal but would rather have SD. I really can't wait as the GS3 has issues with charging port and the SD card constantly un-mounting and remounting. I have a USB port to solder in and a new headset jack but will do that after getting the Note 4. I want Samsung because I use the Multi-Window all the time for my Valentine 1 radar detector app (another V1app) and Waze. My hesitation is that Siedio does not plan to make an Obex waterproof case for the Note 4. If through some miracle Samsung keeps the removable battery and sd card for the Note 5, and perhaps waterproofs it, then I will use my wife's upgrade for it and give her the Note 4. My only other options look like the GS5 or Note 3. With my must haves of removable battery, and Samsung multi-window (and sd slot) does anyone see a different alternative that I have overlooked?
Sounds like you've summed it up for yourself and know what's out there/what suits your needs.
I'd go with the Note 4 or GS5. If samsung doesn't at least return the SD card slot to us, then I see myself with the Note 4 longer then I've ever been with a phone.
I just switched from the Note 3 to the Note 4. Was going to get the Note 5 but then I couldn't get a 10,000 mAh battery from ZeroLemon nor use my 128gb MicroSD card.
Nope, I too foster similar requirements (sans multi-window - I've migrated away from TouchWiz since the early days of my previous and first Android device, the GS3). I got my Note 4 and love it... I think that you will be happy with the decision.
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Nope, I too foster similar requirements (sans multi-window - I've migrated away from TouchWiz since the early days of my previous and first Android device, the GS3). I got my Note 4 and love it... I think that you will be happy with the decision.
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Thanks for all the replies. I just wanted to make sure that I was not missing something. I'm going to get the Note 4. Now I just need to convince Siedio to make a waterproof Obex for it; Fat chance. I see there are a few other options for waterproofing and I may go that route. My GS3 is huge with the Obex but I don't mind geeking it on the belt clip. I may just get their regular Dilex case and a different waterproof one for canoeing etc.
Now, KitKat or Lollipop
Shopping I see I can get the Note 4 from BestBuy with KitKat but if I go to the Sprint corporate store, or a franchise, I'll get Lollipop. I plan to root but I am not a constant ROM upgrade guy. My GS3 I rooted right when I got it, then I flashed only once more to ND8. Both just stock rooted with hotspot. Each time I have to spend a day reading on XDA and asking questions if needed. I have Xposed for a couple of app mods now on the GS3. I will run touchwiz on the Note 4 because I want the multi-window. I have read through a few of the threads including the downgrade to Kitkat one. Should I get KitKat and run a stock rooted ROM or go ahead with Lollipop stock rooted? I really appreciate those who can offer their recommendations as I don't have time to spend all day reading through threads and trying multiple searches. Thanks clicks await.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/sa...cessories/484289-waterproof-note-4-cases.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7JyEy6-Tdo
Where you get information about the note 5. Samsung would lose sales if they change there note series. Galaxy needed the change the note series don't. I be surprised if they go s6 route. The note series made like the s6 would be over 1200 dollars up to 1500 depending on storage. They wouldn't sell many phones at that price. It's already expensive now on a 2 year or monthly payments. I'll laugh if i see 599 with 2 year agreement or 89 a month for a phone.
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Where you get information about the note 5. Samsung would lose sales if they change there note series. Galaxy needed the change the note series don't. I be surprised if they go s6 route. The note series made like the s6 would be over 1200 dollars up to 1500 depending on storage. They wouldn't sell many phones at that price. It's already expensive now on a 2 year or monthly payments. I'll laugh if i see 599 with 2 year agreement or 89 a month for a phone.
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Just about every prediction out there, google, indicates dropping both sd card and removable battery. I hope they are wrong but tend to think they will screw the pooch on the Note 5. I need a phone now, based on the predictions I will get the Note 4. If I could hold out 4 months I would but the GS3 is tired and wonky. Big companies like Samsung rarely listen to enthusiasts, they go with the numbers dorks. The development lead guy for the Note series, if he castrates the Note 5 by removing its gonads, need to be executed by anti-aircraft gunfire. Just like the North Korean Defense Minister, who made the fatal error of taking a nap during a meeting with the ruthless narcissist, Kim Jon Un.
I just don't think they would do that to note users. We are power users and that's the point of the note series IMO. FINGERS CROSSED AND HOLDING MY N4 TIGHTLY
I can't see how the price will stay the same if they go the s6 route. That would be one expensive phone and pricey phones over 1200 won't move far. I don't care how long your money is 1200 for a phone not made of gold is just plain dumb. I just can't remember ever hearing anyone complain about the note series build quality. Even in phone reviews. But if the world we live in anything is possible so i wouldn't be surprised if they did and i wouldn't buy it period. Fingers crossed
I picked up the Note 4 at lunch and it's now rooted via Odin and CF-Auto-Root. One of the salesman at the Sprint Corporate store deflated when I told him that I would not bother waiting on the Note 5 as it appears to already be castrated. He pulled out his Note 4 and said he had 6 batteries and a 128GB sd card and agreed that he will probably be using the Note 4 for a long time.
I'm now looking to flash a near stock rooted rom. I want Knox gone and I want a bunch of bloat gone. I have been using an app called Multi-Window Manager to modify the multi-window to include the apps I want. It depends on Exposed Framework. I will have to wait for the masters to make that happen or shop for a different app that does not need it. Does such a thing exist? Now off to Android Development to shop ROM's. Thanks for the help!
Welcome to the sprint Note 4 forums David. I think you made the right choice. The Note 4 is a great phone and will do anything and everything you need it to do for at least the duration of your contract. By then you can decide if you want a new phone or keep the Note 4. I personally think the Note 4 will serve a lot of people for a long time... definetely for at least two years. There's not much that you'll need to mod or change to be perfectly happy with the note 4. It's awesome straight out of the box. You have a few options for custom/stock roms and any one of them will be great. My rom project is out of commission for a while until I get ready for a new release and update my rom thread. I'm stepping back and taking a different approach with the next release of my rom. There's just SOOOOO many things that can be modded & themed on this phone that's it can be overwelming and definetely time consuming to build roms and port things, do mod etc.
You should definetely consider running Lollipop as it is much more optimized than kitKat and rom development, mods, themes, etc will be more available for Lollipop and newer software versions.
Thanks Tex! Lollipop came out on top after reading in the Development forum. I Odined twrp and transferred your Stock rooted Odexed ROM to my sd card. I'm about to flash it but trying to find the hotspot mod to flash it right afterward. I just read your whole stock rooted bob7 thread and saw hints of adding any app to the Multi-window feature. I used Multi-Window manager before but it requires Exposed Framework. I'll also be watching for your next ROM. I want to ditch a bunch of apps including knox and all Sprint and most Samsung apps. I am tempted to try a de-bloated ROM but want Multi-Window which means Touchwiz. I also want the S-pen to work even though I don't really know how much I will use it. I could just follow the 'Running list of Note 4... safe to remove' thread but it seems incomplete.
Thanks for your hard work!
tx_dbs_tx said:
Welcome to the sprint Note 4 forums David. I think you made the right choice. The Note 4 is a great phone and will do anything and everything you need it to do for at least the duration of your contract. By then you can decide if you want a new phone or keep the Note 4. I personally think the Note 4 will serve a lot of people for a long time... definetely for at least two years. There's not much that you'll need to mod or change to be perfectly happy with the note 4. It's awesome straight out of the box. You have a few options for custom/stock roms and any one of them will be great. My rom project is out of commission for a while until I get ready for a new release and update my rom thread. I'm stepping back and taking a different approach with the next release of my rom. There's just SOOOOO many things that can be modded & themed on this phone that's it can be overwelming and definetely time consuming to build roms and port things, do mod etc.
You should definetely consider running Lollipop as it is much more optimized than kitKat and rom development, mods, themes, etc will be more available for Lollipop and newer software versions.
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Thanks Tex! Lollipop came out on top after reading in the Development forum. I Odined twrp and transferred your Stock rooted Odexed ROM to my sd card. I'm about to flash it but trying to find the hotspot mod to flash it right afterward. I just read your whole stock rooted bob7 thread and saw hints of adding any app to the Multi-window feature. I used Multi-Window manager before but it requires Exposed Framework. I'll also be watching for your next ROM. I want to ditch a bunch of apps including knox and all Sprint and most Samsung apps. I am tempted to try a de-bloated ROM but want Multi-Window which means Touchwiz. I also want the S-pen to work even though I don't really know how much I will use it. I could just follow the 'Running list of Note 4... safe to remove' thread but it seems incomplete.
Thanks for your hard work!
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Be careful with debloating yourself. there's several apk's that are necessary for other apps to work. there's really no need to remove anything other than known bloat apps. Leave everything else alone or you could debloat yourself into some problems. Not to toot my own horn but this ROM might fit the bill for you. There are a few other ROMs here in the forums so look around. Hotspot mod is already included in both of those roms. If you browse my AFH Lollipop mods folder you will find a flashable zip for the hotspot mod but if you're on the stock odexed rom you will need to manually remove an odex file in order for it to work. More details on how to do this can be found HERE.
I'm downloading the Hybrid X Series 2.0 Base Odexed ROM you linked below. You say it has the hotspot mod. Does your Stock_Rooted_NoKnox_N910PSPT1BOB7_SPR.zip have the hotspot mod? Or do I have to flash the Deodexed_N915PSPT2BOC8_N915PVPU2BOC8_Hotspot Mod.zip using the instructions you linked to remove the .odex file? For the Hybrid X where can i read about it's features? The KitKat based Hybrid X Series (Dark Themed) ROM thread is closed. Thanks again!
tx_dbs_tx said:
Be careful with debloating yourself. there's several apk's that are necessary for other apps to work. there's really no need to remove anything other than known bloat apps. Leave everything else alone or you could debloat yourself into some problems. Not to toot my own horn but this ROM might fit the bill for you. There are a few other ROMs here in the forums so look around. Hotspot mod is already included in both of those roms. If you browse my AFH Lollipop mods folder you will find a flashable zip for the hotspot mod but if you're on the stock odexed rom you will need to manually remove an odex file in order for it to work. More details on how to do this can be found HERE.
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David.Dunbar said:
I'm downloading the Hybrid X Series 2.0 Base Odexed ROM you linked below. You say it has the hotspot mod. Does your Stock_Rooted_NoKnox_N910PSPT1BOB7_SPR.zip have the hotspot mod? Or do I have to flash the Deodexed_N915PSPT2BOC8_N915PVPU2BOC8_Hotspot Mod.zip using the instructions you linked to remove the .odex file? For the Hybrid X where can i read about it's features? The KitKat based Hybrid X Series (Dark Themed) ROM thread is closed. Thanks again!
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TheStock_Rooted_NoKnox_N910PSPT1BOB7_SPR is a completely stock rom with no mods or enabled hotspot.
Deodexed_N915PSPT2BOC8_N915PVPU2BOC8_Hotspot Mod.zip is ONLY for the Sprint note Edge. I pointed yo to that thread only for the instructions which are the same for flashing the correct OB7 hotspot mod on the regularSprint Nore 4. Yes my rom thread is close until i redo my OP and get a new build ready. I'll pm you a link to the rom details.
Hybrid X Series 2.0 Base Odexed is installed and running perfectly. Made flipboard Google games-music-news-magazine-...all go away. I use their search engine and calendar. What about Sprint Zone? Can it go away?
Many thanks to tx_dbs_tx. I'll donate again when your updates come along as I appreciate the time and effort spent creating ROMS and the help with those new to custom ROMS like me.
tx_dbs_tx said:
TheStock_Rooted_NoKnox_N910PSPT1BOB7_SPR is a completely stock rom with no mods or enabled hotspot.
Deodexed_N915PSPT2BOC8_N915PVPU2BOC8_Hotspot Mod.zip is ONLY for the Sprint note Edge. I pointed yo to that thread only for the instructions which are the same for flashing the correct OB7 hotspot mod on the regularSprint Nore 4. Yes my rom thread is close until i redo my OP and get a new build ready. I'll pm you a link to the rom details.
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David.Dunbar said:
Hybrid X Series 2.0 Base Odexed is installed and running perfectly. Made flipboard Google games-music-news-magazine-...all go away. I use their search engine and calendar. What about Sprint Zone? Can it go away?
Many thanks to tx_dbs_tx. I'll donate again when your updates come along as I appreciate the time and effort spent creating ROMS and the help with those new to custom ROMS like me.
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You're welcome and thanks for the donation that was awesome of you. As for Sprint Zone, yes you can get rid of it or freeze it if you want. I rarely use it but i do use it when i want to check out things on my account. It's much better than it used to be it it's harmless. I leave it in my ROMs because I don'y want to remove things and cause people to have to search for things to put back into the ROM so they can use those stock features. My rom concept is a little different than other custom ROMs. I make my ROMs the way i like it. I keep all stock Samsung apps and all critical apps in the ROM so that everybody has full features upon flashing. In short, it's a stock rom on steriods. LOL. You can flash it and not have do anything but install your favorite apps and still have that stock look & feel. Take care.
I have never unlocked a device bootloader before so I am trying to get a little more knowledgeable on the topic. For this device, other than allowing it to be rooted, what advantages are there to unlocking the bootloader? Does it make the device harder to brick? Obviously it allows the installation of custom ROMS. For those that want to keep it stock, but want to root, is there any advantages to them having an unlocked bootloader? Thanks in advance for any advice.
For myself, its a no brainer. I use the xposed framework for minor tweaks and mods on the stock build. And just as well, I use titanium backup to remove unwanted system apps that come pre installed, and roll back app updates that I don't see fit. Per ex. If an app updates and has ads or removes features, I usually roll it back. Normally I flash a custom ROM and kernel, but this phone performs so well stock, it only needed minor tweaking in my opinion. Just my .02, but I like to be in control of a device I spend my hard earned money on.
If certain basic options were included in stock, I wouldn't even root, as I really don't need it. Its the simple customization and tweaks that make it all worthwhile.
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In my opinion, an unlocked bootloader is awesome. For the fact that in the off chance that something gets corrupted, you can go into fastboot and flash whatever to try and fix it.
And rooting, as well. Because of all the advantages rooting offers.
siralsmooth said:
For myself, its a no brainer. I use the xposed framework for minor tweaks and mods on the stock build. And just as well, I use titanium backup to remove unwanted system apps that come pre installed, and roll back app updates that I don't see fit. Per ex. If an app updates and has ads or removes features, I usually roll it back. Normally I flash a custom ROM and kernel, but this phone performs so well stock, it only needed minor tweaking in my opinion. Just my .02, but I like to be in control of a device I spend my hard earned money on.
If certain basic options were included in stock, I wouldn't even root, as I really don't need it. Its the simple customization and tweaks that make it all worthwhile.
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In my opinion, an unlocked bootloader is awesome. For the fact that in the off chance that something gets corrupted, you can go into fastboot and flash whatever to try and fix it.
And rooting, as well. Because of all the advantages rooting offers.
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I totally agree with all of that. Before my Moto X arrived I was running a Galaxy S4 rooted with Hyperdrive ROM. I refused to take the Lollipop update because it would kill root and it was not again attainable, except for King Root. King Root is out of China and I'm not even gonna go there as to why I wouldn't use that. The S4 I had didn't have a bootloader that was unlockable so it was Safestrap Recovery with a root exploit that had me gaining control. It's ridiculous to me that we don't have control of our devices anyway. Verizon is terrible, that's why I bought this phone as it is unlockable and rootable on Lollipop, and it's carrier unlocked. So if Verizon ticks me off too much I can jump ship.
Another thing, if Moto voids your warranty due to bootloader unlock, are most folks going with Square Trade for protection purposes? I know Moto says they will still honor your claim if it's a hardware issue not related to software, but should I trust them?
You can always return the device to stock prior to sending it in. Did that with my nexus 6 for the battery issue. Just play it right, you can always say you were going to but never followed through with it. The bootloader screen tells all. Moto isn't Samsung with the flash counter.
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On my previous devices (mostly nexus's) it's a no-brainer, it allows me to use custom ROMs. But on the MXPE, I like the stock ROM and moto features. But I still unlocked in order to get rid of ads, that alone is worth it for me.
The way I see it, a phone is a pocket sized computer. Do you want to be a user or an admin? As a user, you can only do what the manufacturer has loaded on the phone and what they allow you to update. As an admin, you can install Windows 10 or roll it back to Windows 7 if you want. Want to try Linux? Go install it. The sky is the limit if you're the admin. That's sorta how it is to have an unlocked bootloader on a phone. If you're not comfortable changing anything with your phone or restoring it if something goes wrong, leave the bootloader locked.
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You can always return the device to stock prior to sending it in. Did that with my nexus 6 for the battery issue. Just play it right, you can always say you were going to but never followed through with it. The bootloader screen tells all. Moto isn't Samsung with the flash counter.
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Were you able to unlock bootloader without going thru Motorola's process to get the unlock key? If not, they've recorded your serial number as unlocked.
All of the above are excellent points, so I won't rehash them, but the first thing that drives me to unlock and root with every phone and tablet I get, is Ads. Nothing bugs me more than popup ads. Unlock- Root -Adaway!
Also, there is a real sick visceral thrill to doing something stupid, bricking your phone and then suppressing panic to find a fix. When that unit boots back up ready to go - it's not better than sex, but it's pretty good.
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All of the above are excellent points, so I won't rehash them, but the first thing that drives me to unlock and root with every phone and tablet I get, is Ads. Nothing bugs me more than popup ads. Unlock- Root -Adaway!
Also, there is a real sick visceral thrill to doing something stupid, bricking your phone and then suppressing panic to find a fix. When that unit boots back up ready to go - it's not better than sex, but it's pretty good.
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Couldn't take it any longer, it's unlocked, TWRP'ed, and rooted. I feel so much better now! I'm once again in control and have all my apps with data right where they should be.
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Welcome to the family. Lol
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I applaud Moto for allowing this. Had a Sammy Note 3 and had to jump through so many hoops just to get a rom on the thing, sideloading bs and all that and then can't go over a certain update or root is lost, etc. Glad I bought this MXPE and about two days after purchase, rooted and unlocked the BL. Felt great to be back in control. Now whatever comes down the pike I can put on, take off without a hesitation. Great phone....
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I applaud Moto for allowing this. Had a Sammy Note 3 and had to jump through so many hoops just to get a rom on the thing, sideloading bs and all that and then can't go over a certain update or root is lost, etc. Glad I bought this MXPE and about two days after purchase, rooted and unlocked the BL. Felt great to be back in control. Now whatever comes down the pike I can put on, take off without a hesitation. Great phone....
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And you can flash forward as well. There's some info and files in the General section for a fully working MM rom. I'm holding off until someone accomplishes a modified kernel, which will allow it to be rooted.
But yea, I was a die hard Sammy guy up until the S5. It got harder and harder to root and I finally bought a Dev Edition Verizon S5. I wasn't going to fork out $6-800 on a Dev Note 4. And with the S6/N5 and up they took away removable batteries (not a deal breaker) and sd cards, which was the final stray. No removable battery, no sd card, no unlocked bootloader (for Verizon at least) = no Sammy!
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And you can flash forward as well. There's some info and files in the General section for a fully working MM rom. I'm holding off until someone accomplishes a modified kernel, which will allow it to be rooted.
But yea, I was a die hard Sammy guy up until the S5. It got harder and harder to root and I finally bought a Dev Edition Verizon S5. I wasn't going to fork out $6-800 on a Dev Note 4. And with the S6/N5 and up they took away removable batteries (not a deal breaker) and sd cards, which was the final stray. No removable battery, no sd card, no unlocked bootloader (for Verizon at least) = no Sammy!
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Yup, I was a Samsung guy too, until the changes you mentioned. I stuck with my S4 and even that would've lost root if I updated to Lollipop. So I kept rolling with KitKat until I bought the Moto X Pure. Now I'm back to Moto and hoping the next iteration of this device comes with an AMOLED display.
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Yup, I was a Samsung guy too, until the changes you mentioned. I stuck with my S4 and even that would've lost root if I updated to Lollipop. So I kept rolling with KitKat until I bought the Moto X Pure. Now I'm back to Moto and hoping the next iteration of this device comes with an AMOLED display.
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I couldn't be loyal that long lol. I've had almost every phone Verizon offers. The only ones I've been able to use for longer than a month or so are the S5, M8, G3, M9, G4, and now the MXP. I like the Nexus line but I have a 128 gb sd card so even 64gb of internal isn't nearly enough for me to use comfortably.
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