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Hey guys... Just rooted my Nexus 7. I did some research on kernels and found out the two most popular ones are motley kernel and trinity kernel. Can you please explain the differences among the two and which one is better? Thanks a lot..
jshashwat93 said:
Hey guys... Just rooted my Nexus 7. I did some research on kernels and found out the two most popular ones are motley kernel and trinity kernel. Can you please explain the differences among the two and which one is better? Thanks a lot..
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I've tried the available kernels a few different times and I personally like Faux's kernel most of all. It's nice and smooth like the others but runs quite a bit cooler for me when gaming.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1804374
When I first joined this forum I flashed whatever was the most popular. Those are not always the best.
Why don't you flash them all and see which one works the best for you? Some kernels get you a few hundred points more on a benchmark, but no real difference in every-day usage. I am currently making my rounds of the kernels, currently trying Faux's latest ES Beta build: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=31508178&postcount=421. Rolling with AOKP Official.
Hi,
I tried Faux Kernel, Trinity kernel and Mothley kernel. Wich is better hmm.
- Trinity Kernel : My device is just not as smooth as the stock kernel. Disliked.
- Mothley : Much smoother then Trinity Kernel but still hard to say if it is more then the Stock.
- Faux Kernel : It is not slower then stock. It is as smooth, maybe even more ?
I unlocked, rooted, and flashed my nexus 10 only a few hours ago.
Now I have a question, about the Kernels, which are available for the Nexus 10.
Are they worth flashing, and which one is good concernig battery and performence.
I use PAcman Rom
I've had excellent luck with ktoonz manta kernel.
From my S-Off DNA
I second ktmanta, but would encourage you to try them all. Trinity is good for noobs, its stable, fast, and there's not much to mess up. Ktmanta with ktweaker is crazy customizable, but if not careful, you can make performance worse.I've readgood things about franco's kernel, but I've not personally tried it.
Here's a good link to learn: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1369817
thanks,
i think i´ll try ktmanta, because i have very much experience with kernels on my sgs2 so i´m not a noob
i also read that FRanco kernel is good, maybe i´ll try.
The one issue with Franco's kernel on the Nexus 10 is that it hasnt had much development so there isnt much to it. Basically a few little patches and adding boost pulse to OnDemand governor and that is it. If you are going to run a flash and forget kernel then Trinity is a much better choice right now.
Wich ROM, mod, kernel or combination of two of them give me the best experience in android?? I m looking for an Android system fast, smooth and best battery life. Thanks to all
If something was the best, nothing else would be used as there's no point in using something that's inferior when you can get something better.
There is no best, I suggest you read each thread and pick one that suits your needs. Saying X ROM and kernel is the best is like saying a specific vehicle is the best...One may say a Ferrari and another may say an F-350. But who's right?
Some people like roms and kernels bloated with 1000 customization options filled with placebo "optimization and enhancements". Others prefer a clean, minimal ROM without all the useless bling that they'll never use.
P.S. there's probably 10 threads like these, and possibly 11 by next week that you could've read through. I'll just copy and paste this same post on the next one.
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Currently using PureNexus nougat with ElementalX kernel. The experience is pretty good.
Using the phone for SMS/MMS, YouTube and web browsing. I can get ~ 5/6h sot with a full charge on WiFi and ~ 3h30 sot on 3g/LTE which is enough for me.
Also using custom CPU governor profile in EXKernel Manager helped me with battery life without affecting performance (at least not that I noticed). You can find more infos here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guide-advanced-interactive-governor-t3290605
Hope that helps
I am using the stock ROM with the ElementalX Kernel. Very happy with the performance of the phone. I arrive at the end of the day with 40% battery on average
yamilmanzur said:
I am using the stock ROM with the ElementalX Kernel. Very happy with the performance of the phone. I arrive at the end of the day with 40% battery on average
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Wich version of stock are using?? I was use that option but I had some issue with stock.
5.1 said:
Currently using PureNexus nougat with ElementalX kernel. The experience is pretty good.
Using the phone for SMS/MMS, YouTube and web browsing. I can get ~ 5/6h sot with a full charge on WiFi and ~ 3h30 sot on 3g/LTE which is enough for me.
Also using custom CPU governor profile in EXKernel Manager helped me with battery life without affecting performance (at least not that I noticed). You can find more infos here:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guide-advanced-interactive-governor-t3290605
Hope that helps
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Thanks for your answer. I had a boot loop when I install pure Nexus, Gapps, ElementalX and super su. But I like this option. Wich Gapps recommend?
hpagliettini said:
Wich version of stock are using?? I was use that option but I had some issue with stock.
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7.1.1 ROM stock
hpagliettini said:
Thanks for your answer. I had a boot loop when I install pure Nexus, Gapps, ElementalX and super su. But I like this option. Wich Gapps recommend?
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Hi. Gapps included in the OP of thePureNexus thread. OenGapps will work too.
Another "best rom" thread? Seriously ?
Pure
F2FS + Dark ROM + FLASH kernel ! That's the best combination and I am a serial flasher
These people that are saying there isn't a best ROM, I don't really understand the reasoning behind this. There most certainly is a best ROM kernel combination. Otherwise all these ROMs and kernels would be exactly the same right? Sorry to say, some are better than others. This is just a fact.
If you want speed, smoothness, glass, breakneck speeds, great battery life, there really is one only choice.
Uber rom by Chad and faster kernel by Chad.
Why?
On f2fs, (trust me, you want f2fs) I have yet to find kernel or ROM combination that beats this.
Its the only rom that's built with GCC 6.3.1, and the only rom built with clang 3.9.1. Coupled with f2fs, this rom FLIES.
I have flashed every single ROM on this forum and then some, and I'm telling you this is the best combination you can possibly hope for:
https://temp.bbqdroid.org
NOTilyass said:
F2FS + Dark ROM + FLASH kernel ! That's the best combination and I am a serial flasher
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How much sot do you have with this combination?
You flash f2fs + dark ROM + Gapps + flash kernel in one time?
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These people that are saying there isn't a best ROM, I don't really understand the reasoning behind this. There most certainly is a best ROM kernel combination. Otherwise all these ROMs and kernels would be exactly the same right? Sorry to say, some are better than others. This is just a fact.
If you want speed, smoothness, glass, breakneck speeds, great battery life, there really is one only choice.
Uber rom by Chad and faster kernel by Chad.
Why?
On f2fs, (trust me, you want f2fs) I have yet to find kernel or ROM combination that beats this.
Its the only rom that's built with GCC 6.3.1, and the only rom built with clang 3.9.1. Coupled with f2fs, this rom FLIES.
I have flashed every single ROM on this forum and then some, and I'm telling you this is the best combination you can possibly hope for:
https://temp.bbqdroid.org
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Uber rom by Chad I definitely agree is the best. I tried using his faster angler but it caused problems with mods like viper4arise so I am sticking with flash kernel. Uber by Chad is definitely the best rom though and I have tried so many roms like pure nexus, resurrection remix, dirty unicorns, sixRom, lineage, cyanogenmod, nitrogen, Cortex and so many more.
Is the stock camera working on either Uber or Dark ROM with f2fs file system?
Thanks
There's no such thing as a best rom fact, but only best rom opinions, which isn't a good idea to ever discuss here. [emoji14]
As for battery, that all depends on you as a user to manager your battery life your way. I get 4+ SOT easily and I listen to a lot of music and text a lot.
As for what I'm using, I'm running ABC Rom with franco.kernel, root, and V4A. ?
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TrainNanpaMaster said:
These people that are saying there isn't a best ROM, I don't really understand the reasoning behind this. There most certainly is a best ROM kernel combination. Otherwise all these ROMs and kernels would be exactly the same right? Sorry to say, some are better than others. This is just a fact.
If you want speed, smoothness, glass, breakneck speeds, great battery life, there really is one only choice.
Uber rom by Chad and faster kernel by Chad.
Why?
On f2fs, (trust me, you want f2fs) I have yet to find kernel or ROM combination that beats this.
Its the only rom that's built with GCC 6.3.1, and the only rom built with clang 3.9.1. Coupled with f2fs, this rom FLIES.
I have flashed every single ROM on this forum and then some, and I'm telling you this is the best combination you can possibly hope for:
https://temp.bbqdroid.org
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In this link I download the Uber ROM, right?
And other thing, you say me I have to flash to f2fs first before install this ROM and kernel?? Or I don't have to flash previous?
DEVILOPS 007 said:
Uber rom by Chad I definitely agree is the best. I tried using his faster angler but it caused problems with mods like viper4arise so I am sticking with flash kernel. Uber by Chad is definitely the best rom though and I have tried so many roms like pure nexus, resurrection remix, dirty unicorns, sixRom, lineage, cyanogenmod, nitrogen, Cortex and so many more.
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I'm using faster kernel (r63) with Viper for arise with no problems at all bro. What's your steps for flashing?
I'm using 2.4 alpha B.
TrainNanpaMaster said:
I'm using faster kernel (r63) with Viper for arise with no problems at all bro. What's your steps for flashing?
I'm using 2.4 alpha B.
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I basically just wiped cache and dalvik/art cache and flashed the rom and kernel and all my mods. I also made sure to do stuff like rename audio effects and everything I did to make it work with flash. I use stable 2.4 deutronomy aroma installer. I was talking to someone else on this rom and kernel and he said he had the same problem too so it might be hit and miss or maybe you flashed it different than us. Please tell.me what you did to get it to work. Thanks
What partitions do you guys convert to f2s besides cache? Data as well? Everything else remains ext4?
Running stock has been great for me lately. Downgraded to 6.0.1 running Xposed for pixel mods. Amplify and greenify. With exkernel has been a great experience so far. Near 7h SOT yesterday. Will be going back to 7.1.1 soon, as the February update is out.. I heard lineage OS has good battery life. Will be trying that out soon in a few days.
Read the threads on XDA and good luck!!:good:
Best kernel for LOS OnePlus 5?
Battery/Performance
It's not about the Kernel, it's how you set it up.
Try boeffla kernel, very great battery and performance
stock kernal
stock kernel but i would like to change to the best, how is franco kernel guys?
Maaalx said:
stock kernel but i would like to change to the best, how is franco kernel guys?
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I don't think franco released a Lineage kernel yet.
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Try boeffla kernel, very great battery and performance
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But boeffla is only for stock, no?
Bluespark
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But boeffla is only for stock, no?
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So far yes.
I'm pretty sure he is waiting for an official Lineage build to act as a base for his Lineage kernel.
With LOS from what I have experienced on my oneplus 5T it depends on the revision... I am running AICP based some on LOS and with firmware 5.1. The simpler kernels seemed to be better performers overall. Alot of old kernel stuff we used to do in low ram slow processor days doesnt make as much of a difference that I could see. Overclocking , meh underclocking I read setting the big cluster or gold cluster to 1958 max helps. not sure I noticed alot of difference. No reason to mess with voltage,
All the ones I tried NONE affected audio volume at all even though most have options for it.
Flash kernel works fine seemed to boot fast, no reboots issues. Same version has worked on the last months of changes , has noop,deadline, cfq,bfq, and maple)
Franken worked fine also, I/O has noop, deadline,cfq,bfq,
EX Flar2's worked also (though the version the app gets you dont see on his download page) has a few more features (i.e. more choices in governors , I/O options)
Madys and singularity booted but had different issues. one had stuttering on the sound the other alot of pauses. Alot of options. Long boot time also compared to above mentioned ones.
Blu_spark didnt boot on my latest nightly. And I used his custom R11 version (newest I saw on his download page on XDA) Really want to try it out but didnt boot. Will play more with that and try again later.
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Also, EX kernel manager, KA-Mod reborn, and kernel manager for Franco Kernel all worked on all of them,
KA-Mod lets you rename your device in the app (that you can do elsewhere in the rom also, ) so your phone shows up on bluetooth with a unique custom name.
Franco Kernel Manager has per app profiles, light color shift for night etc, and ALOT of tweaks and even a page to suggest other apps to improve batter life. I paid for Franco and that is what I am sticking with. If you run Franco's kernel it will update and flash it for you
EX kernel manager also will update and flash their kernel.
We have another post for ROM. Why do we not have another post for Kernel ?
As we can see, we have more than 5 kernels that are from XDA developer or someone else. But which one is really good for your ROM and which one still keep updating ?
I have been using OP5T for 2 months. Have used so many kernels but i still got stuck in those and do not know which is more stable. I am planning to use the kernel from Blu_Spark. Is that good ?
Post your favourite kernel and tell everybody why you use that. It will help newbie to pick what they want.
I am using Flash kernel at the moment but I have already tried Blu, franko, arter, ElementalX etc, but honestly for me it's difficult to see any difference since this phone have already a great battery life and great speed. On my previous phone (S8) the custom kernel gives a big advantage since the phone have tons of bloat and and isn't running stock like Android.
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We have another post for ROM. Why do we not have another post for Kernel ?
As we can see, we have more than 5 kernels that are from XDA developer or someone else. But which one is really good for your ROM and which one still keep updating ?
I have been using OP5T for 2 months. Have used so many kernels but i still got stuck in those and do not know which is more stable. I am planning to use the kernel from Blu_Spark. Is that good ?
Post your favourite kernel and tell everybody why you use that. It will help newbie to pick what they want.
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I have tried Blu and Franco for now and both have been very good. I really think kernel performance depends on the combo with the ROM as well as your device. I'm on Liquid Remix with Franco currently but I may give Resurrection Remix a try with Flash. If I had more time, I'd flash every ROM with every kernel to get a feel for all the possibilities LOL. :good:
For me Franco and flash kernel are the Best.... Now with ob3 with Franco kernel
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Did the Franco improve battery or performance? Someone Tried the Boeffla?
At the moment, both Flash Kernel and RenderKernel are great options in my opinion. I have tried most of the other kernels on xda and if you are looking specifically for smoothness/speed, these are the two you should test first. I do not run battery cycles; everyones daily use scenario really differs too much.
Flash Kernel currently has some kernel features I need (Kcal support & wakelock blocker) while RenderKernel does not have these features quite yet. While it lacks in some features, RenderKernel is undoubtedly the smoothest kernel for 5T right now.
I am on a 5T with OOS 5.0.3.
I like Franco but recently some custom ROMs have WIFI cannot turn on problem after I flash Franco kernel.
:fingers-crossed:
(Don't blame any devs here just sharing.)
crashazz33 said:
At the moment, both Flash Kernel and RenderKernel are great options in my opinion. I have tried most of the other kernels on xda and if you are looking specifically for smoothness/speed, these are the two you should test first. I do not run battery cycles; everyones daily use scenario really differs too much.
Flash Kernel currently has some kernel features I need (Kcal support & wakelock blocker) while RenderKernel does not have these features quite yet. While it lacks in some features, RenderKernel is undoubtedly the smoothest kernel for 5T right now.
I am on a 5T with OOS 5.0.3.
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Where can I download flash kernel?
mo123456789 said:
Where can I download flash kernel?
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https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5t/development/op5t-flash-kernel-v2-15-1-t3729330/page34
I haven't really played around with Kernel choices much.
I use and appreciate the professionalism of ElementalX kernel.
With it's options to adjust for extreme brightness, it quickly became a favorite a couple years ago and I've just stuck with it since.
Now most devs are adding high brightness to their kernels.
I guess I can start checking other kernels out.
I do like that ElementalX stays very stockish, reliable.
I can pretty much flash it and feel confident nothing weird will pop up over the next few days.
CZ Eddie said:
I haven't really played around with Kernel choices much.
I use and appreciate the professionalism of ElementalX kernel.
With it's options to adjust for extreme brightness, it quickly became a favorite a couple years ago and I've just stuck with it since.
Now most devs are adding high brightness to their kernels.
I guess I can start checking other kernels out.
I do like that ElementalX stays very stockish, reliable.
I can pretty much flash it and feel confident nothing weird will pop up over the next few days.
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ElementalX, Franco, and flash were all my go-to kernels back in the 6p days (just a few months ago, lol), so it's hard to pick, especially since they all ended up on the 5t. Right now I'm on exkernel though I am partial to flash. Battery life is amazing on all 3, but the overclock on ex just adds that extra bit of smoothness that I've never experienced before. Call it placebo but I just love this kernel (exkernel).
any more input?
im curious to know if fsync affects battery performance at all, can someone also test this out if you are on a kernel that enables disabling the fsync feature
virtyx said:
any more input?
im curious to know if fsync affects battery performance at all, can someone also test this out if you are on a kernel that enables disabling the fsync feature
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Tried it but didn't notice any difference.
Technically it should improve performance when using the phone, but it won't be noticeable.
boeffla
simple and steady, close to stock for daily using.
blu_spark, always on the Fastlane. ?
Does flashing a custom kernel solves Google play services battery drain?
Do I need custom recovery and root to flash a custom kernel? I'm not willing to play with kernel adiutor so I'm not really interested in rooting
luws said:
Does flashing a custom kernel solves Google play services battery drain?
Do I need custom recovery and root to flash a custom kernel? I'm not willing to play with kernel adiutor so I'm not really interested in rooting
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Custom kernel has nothing to do with google play services. You need custom recovery to flash a kernel, but most kernels for op5t are "flash & forget" which mean there is no reason to change the setting of the kernel.
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vagkoun83 said:
Custom kernel has nothing to do with google play services. You need custom recovery to flash a kernel, but most kernels for op5t are "flash & forget" which mean there is no reason to change the setting of the kernel.
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maybe not Google play services specifically, but with my latest phone (zuk z2), kernel was directly related to deep sleep
stock OOS/kernel has a serious issue with Google PS in terms of deep sleep. Besides that, I dont feel any need to flash a custom kernel. SOT is incredible already, and performance is really fluid.
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maybe not Google play services specifically, but with my latest phone (zuk z2), kernel was directly related to deep sleep
stock OOS/kernel has a serious issue with Google PS in terms of deep sleep. Besides that, I dont feel any need to flash a custom kernel. SOT is incredible already, and performance is really fluid.
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If you are OK then there is no need to flash a kernel. If an app is crap (like Google services or facebook) the kernel can't do miracles and its not kernels job to control wakelocks of user apps
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I keep changing between blu and new kernel
Not sure which to stick with but I think new kernel gives me a bit more battery