Rooted 935V on PE1 with Xposed, Greenify, L-Speed, and Amplify set up. Both Google Cast and Navigation are being killed when the screen is off for about 2 minutes. I've tried disabling all of the battery saving and performance enhancing apps listed above as well as turning of battery optimization. I can't figure out what's killing these. Any suggestions?
Thanks, Brett
bmcglone said:
Rooted 935V on PE1 with Xposed, Greenify, L-Speed, and Amplify set up. Both Google Cast and Navigation are being killed when the screen is off for about 2 minutes. I've tried disabling all of the battery saving and performance enhancing apps listed above as well as turning of battery optimization. I can't figure out what's killing these. Any suggestions?
Thanks, Brett
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Maybe it has to do something with Doze aggressiveness through Greenify. Make sure you have it whitelisted.
Cast and Maps are whitelisted. I even tried running with size and Greenify disabled.
I just installed PE2 (http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-s7-edge/development/rom-t3429338). Maybe that will help.
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SInce Greenify works with the new MOFO method, I thought it would be interesting to see how it's affecting the Turbo's already superior battery life. How much further are people getting on a single charge?
i completely forgot about that. i will let you know. may take a couple days though to really see.
I've been using greenify since owning the turbo. Without xposed, root only allows for hibernation without having to turn the screen on. Otherwise, I haven't noticed much of a difference - though it is nice not watching the screen turn on, stop processes, then turn off many times a day.
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Demiurge7 said:
I've been using greenify since owning the turbo. Without xposed, root only allows for hibernation without having to turn the screen on. Otherwise, I haven't noticed much of a difference - though it is nice not watching the screen turn on, stop processes, then turn off many times a day.
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i thought without root it could not autohibernate. before root you had ot manually hit the button to close apps. at least i couldnt find a way to have it auto hibernate without root
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i thought without root it could not autohibernate. before root you had ot manually hit the button to close apps. at least i couldnt find a way to have it auto hibernate without root
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No it can auto hibernate without root. You just have to set greenify as a device administrator - and it has to turn the screen on to stop apps. This function may require the paid version (dont remember), but not root. I think root may also allow hibernation of system apps, but even then I think that was an option without root.
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does not work 100%?
My workaround was to use fast reboot pro since it stops apps without root or turning on the screen.
Haven't rooted my turbo yet (not paying for it when they give disclaimers and there was a bounty) but frp seems to save some battery plus switching to ART helps as well.
I don't think greenify will do much difference because it requires more of cpu downclocking and Governor change.
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I don't think greenify will do much difference because it requires more of cpu downclocking and Governor change.
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Huh? Greenify does not "downclock" or change your governor. It keeps wake locks down, and prevents apps from using battery by running when they don't need to be.
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My battery barelly holds 16 hours and I have the donation package of greenify. What am I doing wrong? My Z2 battery used to hold like 18~20 hours or even more.
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Huh? Greenify does not "downclock" or change your governor. It keeps wake locks down, and prevents apps from using battery by running when they don't need to be.
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I am well aware of that. My lack of not seperating the sentences may have brought confusion. What I was implying, was that greenify won't do so much of a difference because to obtain legit battery improvements it requires tweaking of kernel and cpu and governors and achieve the best battery possible.
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My battery barelly holds 16 hours and I have the donation package of greenify. What am I doing wrong? My Z2 battery used to hold like 18~20 hours or even more.
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Do not be mislead to how many hours it lasts in the long run of quantity but focus on screen on time which matters most. I am not rooted whatsoever and I constantly achieve this battery life.
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I am well aware of that. My lack of not seperating the sentences may have brought confusion. What I was implying, was that greenify won't do so much of a difference because to obtain legit battery improvements it requires tweaking of kernel and cpu and governors and achieve the best battery possible.
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I see. I do think greenify does its job, and certainly helps battery life (especially in conjunction with xposed). I would, and I am sure many others would agree that it's still an effective and legitimate tool. I agree, not as much so as throttling, but that's not really what I thought this thread was about. We are unfortunately far from kernel tweaks at the moment ☺
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I am well aware of that. My lack of not seperating the sentences may have brought confusion. What I was implying, was that greenify won't do so much of a difference because to obtain legit battery improvements it requires tweaking of kernel and cpu and governors and achieve the best battery possible.
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apps not waking the cpu from deep sleep and being more efficient than a super fast cpu running more slowly and performing the tasks for longer. sounds better to me at least thats the idea behind the new job scheduler api in 5.x and greenify thats longer that all the components on the phone have to be operating and creating heat Im not an expert but my 2 cents
53?!?
Thats right, 53 hours, or around there at least. So I am using the original root image from mofo, with Greenify Donation Package installed, so I get auto hibernation, but not the system function hibernation....yet. I may be updating to an Xposed image soon, to unlock those features. I have every app possible except Carbonite Mobile (Auto Pic/Video backup/access) and TextSecure ( 3rd party SMS/MMS) set to auto-hibernate, including my 3rd party email K-9 Mail, I don't use the normal GMail app. With my current combination, normal usage inc. phone calls, texts, (mostly) web browsing or stalking the XDA app, I got a whopping ~53 hours of battery life before I had to charge at 2%. My phone is also my alarm clock. Unfortunately I forgot to take a screen shot, but I will try and duplicate it and take one.
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Thats right, 53 hours, or around there at least. So I am using the original root image from mofo, with Greenify Donation Package installed, so I get auto hibernation, but not the system function hibernation....yet. I may be updating to an Xposed image soon, to unlock those features. I have every app possible except Carbonite Mobile (Auto Pic/Video backup/access) and TextSecure ( 3rd party SMS/MMS) set to auto-hibernate, including my 3rd party email K-9 Mail, I don't use the normal GMail app. With my current combination, normal usage inc. phone calls, texts, (mostly) web browsing or stalking the XDA app, I got a whopping ~53 hours of battery life before I had to charge at 2%. My phone is also my alarm clock. Unfortunately I forgot to take a screen shot, but I will try and duplicate it and take one.
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That's intense.
Just rooted and got xposed working last night to hibernate some system apps. Excited to see how it works.
Sooooooooo..... Battery life with greenify and lux after root and disabling bloat. My location services are on high accuracy. My Bluetooth is always on with my moto 360. Wi-Fi and data are also always on. I receive all notifications. How can I ask for any better.....
That picture doesn't really mean anything without also showing screen on time.
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That picture doesn't really mean anything without also showing screen on time.
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Because of the moto 360 not a lot of screen time. I reply and skip music through through the watch.
So for people like me that means a lot. Just news when I'm free for screen on time.
XT1225, Kit Kat with some apps greenified and some bloat removed/frozen.
Hey, I am testing stock EU 6.0 battery life, for now not so good, DOZE doesn't do anything for me, same %/h as on lollipop, but questions is another. On Amplify I noticed "ICING" wakelock. It stands for Google Play Services and have some business with SMS. I cant find what causes to start this wakelock, but on stock 5.1.1 this wakelock had smaller wakeup time. Maybe someone can explain me? Why does this shows up?
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Hey, I am testing stock EU 6.0 battery life, for now not so good, DOZE doesn't do anything for me, same %/h as on lollipop, but questions is another. On Amplify I noticed "ICING" wakelock. It stands for Google Play Services and have some business with SMS. I cant find what causes to start this wakelock, but on stock 5.1.1 this wakelock had smaller wakeup time. Maybe someone can explain me? Why does this shows up?
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I always wondered this also. Amplify shows a lot of wakelocks but don't know enough about how to use app properly other than limiting the safe to limit wakelocks maybe change default 240 seconds to a greater number. Wonder what ill effects this has. I know I tried screwing with the alarms wakelocks and had issues.
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I always wondered this also. Amplify shows a lot of wakelocks but don't know enough about how to use app properly other than limiting the safe to limit wakelocks maybe change default 240 seconds to a greater number. Wonder what ill effects this has. I know I tried screwing with the alarms wakelocks and had issues.
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You can limit icing wakelock (I did) I set like 14240 seconds
I could never do anything to stop com.android.gms wakelocks but I finally managed too. I had over 800 wakelocks on full battery today I had 11
Don't worry about it. Icing barely effects battery.
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Don't worry about it. Icing barely effects battery.
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I am not sure, but will agree with you, but I cant figure out what does this wakelock to appear, why on lollipop I havent this issue?
This is garbage, my 6P will not sleep anymore on 6.0.1. I am stock, rooted, ElementalX, and Xposed.
Not running anything to crazy but this wakelock is destroying my battery. Anything I can do short of a factory reset?
It's related to your location services. Do you have high accuracy for all apps? Maybe have location history enabled on Google Maps
I have both enabled. Prior to 6.0.1 this was a non issue. I have the same settings on my Nexus 9 on 6.0.1 and the device will not be held awake :/
This has been driving me nuts lately too. 6.0.1 stock rooted. The only solution I've found so far is Amplify to limit the wakelock but I'd like to keep Android Pay working... At least until they change root detection methods.
Probably a little late to this thread but I have a possible reason for this issue... I am not a developer so this is only based on my practical experiments..
I used to face this problem till very recently on my Nexus 6p.. no matter which kernel or ROM I use... some nights the phone doesn't sleep at all and then I see the culprit is nlpcollector wakelock. If I restart, the problem goes away for a day or two but then comes back again...
Then I noticed that every post I have seen with this issue on the internet has related to people with rooted phones (else you wouldn't be able to use BBS ) and most had made modifications to the doze parameters (using whichever app).. So I reset my doze parameters to default.. Since the last 2 weeks I haven't seen this issue anymore..
My guess is that one of my customized doze parameters is breaking the functionality but I can't figure out which one.. Tried resetting only the location based parameters but the wakelock returns.. My only solution is to reset all the doze settings..
Obviously the other solution is to set up xposed and download amplify or other such apps to block the wakelock.. I haven't tried it but should work..
PS - I still have location history on and location set to high accuracy. So that is not the culprit.
Hi everyone,
When i view the battery usage, i see that Google services isbthe first process drain my battery. Do you have idea why ? And how to fix it.
I have N910C with stock rom.
Thanks.
I have the exact same problem.
This might be a bad update from google .
I installed naptime and wait to see if it gets better .
I didn't make a change in the phone, but it's a strange.
Why don't you block it and do not allow it to work in the background anymore? In this way, you can control when and how much Services will work.
Hi, thanks for your answer.
How can i block them ? With greenify, it is already.
I tried them all: greenify, amplify power nap, force doze etc .
For me the best battery life I get is when I just let my phone do what it wants.
It does show a big number of wake locks but they don't appear to impact battery life as much as you would think .
If you really want to get rid of most battery drain in standby you can just disable WiFi and mobile data but I wouldn't do this as you won't get any more messages from what's up or Facebook .
Otherwise just leave it alone . Android knows what it's doing .
Is there any life w/o google?
Yes. it is.
I have rooted my 910C, installed Nemesis Refined (gorgeous ROM with a lot of wonderful elements, including a great battery saver kernel - SpaceLemon), then I ditched every google service and if need I login from browser and that's it.
And so there is F-Droid, Aptoide, APKPure, and others.
Never ever had any security problem, my apps run smooth w/o hiccups, and my phone has a new, reborn, life!
Of course, there is Xposed with Greenify, Amplify, and others alike.
Guys, try it, you don't know what you loose if you keep your phone steered by google.
Good luck!
If you need more info, here I am.
Have a nice week-end all!
The problem is gone when disabling 4G and using Wifi with 2G only.
So I broke my old Note 4 that I used at work. I'm now dusting off my daughter's old S7 Edge to use that, upgraded to latest firmware, used CCSW to disable all what I consider crapware, and now I have a question. Since this is running Oreo the battery and data optimization is not as complex as what we have recently (my "weekend" phone is a Note 10 running Android 11), so should I still use Greenify to control my running apps or is the battery optimization in Oreo is good enough without the need for an "extra" app running in the background to control that. I appreciate everyone's opinion!
Lol, that app and a 3rd party launcher were the prime suspects in 2 back to back boot loops on my N10+ Never again.
Not sure about Oreo but power management always causes issues in Pie including poor battery life.
I simply close app when done with them and Android does fine.
Any apps that don't behave under those terms I deal with on a case by case basis. Some are uninstalled or temporarily/permanently disabled.
Google Framework, Play Services and Playstore are habitual offenders.
Play with it and see what's using the battery, go from there. Maybe it will behave better than you expect.
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Lol, that app and a 3rd party launcher were the prime suspects in 2 back to back boot loops on my N10+ Never again.
Not sure about Oreo but power management always causes issues in Pie including poor battery life.
I simply close app when done with them and Android does fine.
Any apps that don't behave under those terms I deal with on a case by case basis. Some are uninstalled or temporarily/permanently disabled.
Google Framework, Play Services and Playstore are habitual offenders.
Play with it and see what's using the battery, go from there. Maybe it will behave better than you expect.
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Thx for the reply. Yes, besides CCSW to disable apps that either I consider crapware or apps that I use rarely, I don't use Greenify or other "battery saving" apps on my Note10. I feel that Pie and above has way better management options for apps that previous Android releases. If I close all my apps on "recents" and reboot my phone and let it sit there overnight I get only a 2-3% drop in my battery. That tells that battery is well managed.
Now for this old S7 on Oreo well I dont have many options in the apps settings besides the battery optimization switch. That's why I'm debating if I should use Greenify or not to have better control of apps that I really dont want running on the background but still want to receive notifications when they arrive.
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Thx for the reply. Yes, besides CCSW to disable apps that either I consider crapware or apps that I use rarely, I don't use Greenify or other "battery saving" apps on my Note10. I feel that Pie and above has way better management options for apps that previous Android releases. If I close all my apps on "recents" and reboot my phone and let it sit there overnight I get only a 2-3% drop in my battery. That tells that battery is well managed.
Now for this old S7 on Oreo well I dont have many options in the apps settings besides the battery optimization switch. That's why I'm debating if I should use Greenify or not to have better control of apps that I really dont want running on the background but still want to receive notifications when they arrive.
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I reboot my 10+ every few days or if it acts up... no reboot in 3-5 days can do that
At night I simply close all open apps although I do that throughout the day as well. I use Device Care to do clean ups every 2-3 days. Other than clearing the system cache that's about as much system maintenance as I do.
I also police the download folder daily and once a month scan with Malwarebytes. A very low maintenance, clean running system.
Greenify worried me as it wasn't seamless or fast and running at boot up means it had the capability to boot loop the device. If I never see another boot loop it won't be missed...
Maybe on an older OS you would see tangible power savings but it didn't do much for me on Pie.
In the end, tracking the power hogs down and dealing with them on a case by case basis did.
I run with Google play Services disabled 98% of the time now. It nets me about 2%@hr better battery life.
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I feel that Pie and above has way better management options for apps that previous Android releases.
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On my N10+ ruunong on Pie, all Device Care power management toggles are turn off except for fast charging.
The power mode is always set to "Optimize".