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I need your opinion!

So,
My boss recently told me that I was required to use a company phone. This was back in July when the best possible Android phone, among the options I had, was the Galaxy S6.
I thought about an iPhone for some time, but couldn't find a reason to switch to the Apple environment as I dont have a Macintosh and I find iOS "too simple" and had no alternative to Tasker, which I use on a daily basis.
This left me with the Galaxy S6, which I'm a little disappointed with.
The private phone that I was forced to leave behind was the Moto X 2014 equipped with CyanogenMod. Even with the stock rom, the Moto X 2014 performed WAY better than the Samsung GS6 in almost every aspect (in my opinion).
I've talked to the MDM admin about using a Motorola Nexus 6 at home to receive emails off my regular schedule along with using a private phone off the MDM system again and he's OK with that.
The reasons why I dislike the GS6:
1) The GS6 is laggy in many occasions. It seems as if the CPU throttles from time to time especially when I try to cast something from Chrome to my 1st generation Chromecast.
2) The physical front buttons... come on. And why does Samsung insist on reversing the button order compared to the rest of the Android phones?
3) The GPS is rarely accurate. It tends to jump between locations, especially when I'm in a rush.
4) TouchWiz and all of its included, "non-disable-able" apps, is trash.
5) Why the blue and no black color?
6) I hate it when manufacturers oversaturate their displays. Even when I've toned the display down, the GS6 is slightly oversaturated.
7) When on MDM and using Knox, the mail client eats up my battery even when it's set to sync once ever 12h.
8) The fingerprint reader is sometimes slow and when Smart Unlock is enabled, I'm forced to swipe instead of using the fingerprint (I know this is a silly reason).
The only reasons why I'm hesitating:
1) I'm used to the size of the Moto X 2014, GS6, etc. The iPhone 6S Plus dimensions are OK in my opinion. Will the Nexus 6p be too large for my taste?
2) I like the option of having an IR blaster in my phone, even though I rarely use it.
3) Is the build quality equal or almost equal to the GS6?
4) The camera should be almost equally as good as the GS6, am I right?
5) I have no idea if Snapdragon 810 v2.1 is overheating. I've heard no opinions on the Nexus 6p.
6) Paying approx €500 ($530) for a new phone which specs are similar to the GS6 is expensive. Is it reasonable in this occasion?
Thanks for reading my wall of text. Now, please let me know what your opinions are. Should I buy hte Nexus 6p and why is it better than the GS6 in your opinion?

To be honest the GS6 is a pretty good phone and the only thing I can complain about it is bloatware, iffy finger print sensor, touchwiz, and no front facing speakers. I've had my GS6 for about 4 months. I'm getting the Nexus 6P because it hit everything on my feature wish list for an overall badass device. Yes there are gripes about it as well but not nearly as much as the GS6. I am getting my Nexus 6P delivered today so I'm really anxious to get off work and set it up. I will have to get used to the size because I never had a phablet but I'm pretty sure I'll manage. I'd say based off all of the reviews, it's well worth the purchase!
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I've never owned a Samsung device myself, but I can tell you about the Nexus 6P side, responding to your hesitation list in order:
1) The size is quite large, but coming from a device (DROID MAXX) smaller than the GS6, I've had no problems.
2) Never had an IR blaster, but I don't even watch much on a TV.
3) The build quality is superb and the defect complaints seen on the forums are pretty rare.
4) The camera quality is pretty much the same, but debatable. GS6 has OIS so videos will always be better than the Nexus in terms of shakiness.
5) I've experienced zero heat problems with the Nexus 6P and that's the general consensus I've seen.
6) If you can recoup some losses by selling an old device, I would probably switch. Otherwise, I would probably wait, there's lots of cool exciting tech on the horizon that you might wish you waited for and if you pay for a new device out of pocket right now you won't have the cash to buy it!
A couple more notes:
- This phone is snappy and I've not seen a single performance hiccup thus far.
- The Nexus 6P also has a very saturated display, but you can desaturate it some in the developer settings with sRGB mode. AMOLED displays tend to be more saturated, for better or worse, but I like it!
- You may also need to consider that the Nexus 6P doesn't support wireless or Qualcomm Quick Charge, and uses USB Type-C, so you'll likely need to purchase all new cables and chargers.
This phone arena side by side may help compare all the details!

I think that you should do it, as you are really displeased with the performance of the GS6. Also, taking into consideration that you can't root the GS6 (work phone, right?) and no viable/good roms for it, I will say the N6P is the way to go. I moved from the OnePlus One with the works (root, CM12.1 and other mods) and I couldn't be happier. The N6P is really responsive and I am only missing a couple of mods, mostly out of habit, meaning I just have to do a couple of more taps to get some things done. I don't think the size of the phone will be much of a problem, especially with the finger print reader on the back, which you'll be used to within an hour.

The Nexus 6P is VERY big. But it is future proofed. USB type C port, updates directly from Google. More stable, lighter and cleaner UI. Excellent finger scanner. Top end camera on par with Note 5 and iP6s+. Superb speakers on my unit. Very bright display, not as bright as my Z3 but as bright as my iP6+ or a hair darker. Battery life ranges unpredictably from average to VERY good. Design... Very unique is a good place to start and marrying that with attractive materials and aesthetics makes it a winner in my book.

Do you need a company phone or a root phone. Nexus is never good idea for company phone.

anglerstock said:
Do you need a company phone or a root phone. Nexus is never good idea for company phone.
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This phone is supposed to be used WITH my company number but not managed by our MDM admin. I can do whatever I want to it.
cgjjaf said:
I think that you should do it, as you are really displeased with the performance of the GS6. Also, taking into consideration that you can't root the GS6 (work phone, right?) and no viable/good roms for it, I will say the N6P is the way to go. I moved from the OnePlus One with the works (root, CM12.1 and other mods) and I couldn't be happier. The N6P is really responsive and I am only missing a couple of mods, mostly out of habit, meaning I just have to do a couple of more taps to get some things done. I don't think the size of the phone will be much of a problem, especially with the finger print reader on the back, which you'll be used to within an hour.
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The fingerprint reader will be the least of my problems. I really dont understand why it has to be placed as a physical home button on the GS6.
You picked the Nexus 6p over the OnePlus Two?
uknowme4me said:
To be honest the GS6 is a pretty good phone and the only thing I can complain about it is bloatware, iffy finger print sensor, touchwiz, and no front facing speakers. I've had my GS6 for about 4 months. I'm getting the Nexus 6P because it hit everything on my feature wish list for an overall badass device. Yes there are gripes about it as well but not nearly as much as the GS6. I am getting my Nexus 6P delivered today so I'm really anxious to get off work and set it up. I will have to get used to the size because I never had a phablet but I'm pretty sure I'll manage. I'd say based off all of the reviews, it's well worth the purchase!
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I'm thinking the same thing. I dislike everything but the metal frame and daylight photo quality about the GS6. I will most likely swap. (I placed the order three weeks ago for a discount price, but am thinking about cancelling or at least postponing the purchase)
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I've never owned a Samsung device myself, but I can tell you about the Nexus 6P side, responding to your hesitation list in order:
1) The size is quite large, but coming from a device (DROID MAXX) smaller than the GS6, I've had no problems.
2) Never had an IR blaster, but I don't even watch much on a TV.
3) The build quality is superb and the defect complaints seen on the forums are pretty rare.
4) The camera quality is pretty much the same, but debatable. GS6 has OIS so videos will always be better than the Nexus in terms of shakiness.
5) I've experienced zero heat problems with the Nexus 6P and that's the general consensus I've seen.
6) If you can recoup some losses by selling an old device, I would probably switch. Otherwise, I would probably wait, there's lots of cool exciting tech on the horizon that you might wish you waited for and if you pay for a new device out of pocket right now you won't have the cash to buy it!
A couple more notes:
- This phone is snappy and I've not seen a single performance hiccup thus far.
- The Nexus 6P also has a very saturated display, but you can desaturate it some in the developer settings with sRGB mode. AMOLED displays tend to be more saturated, for better or worse, but I like it!
- You may also need to consider that the Nexus 6P doesn't support wireless or Qualcomm Quick Charge, and uses USB Type-C, so you'll likely need to purchase all new cables and chargers.
This phone arena side by side may help compare all the details!
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Not sure why they skipped out on OIS. I just noticed my GS6's OIS in action yesterday. It's a great feature but I guess I can live without it. Can you double press the power button from sleep to open camera?
subhani said:
The Nexus 6P is VERY big. But it is future proofed. USB type C port, updates directly from Google. More stable, lighter and cleaner UI. Excellent finger scanner. Top end camera on par with Note 5 and iP6s+. Superb speakers on my unit. Very bright display, not as bright as my Z3 but as bright as my iP6+ or a hair darker. Battery life ranges unpredictably from average to VERY good. Design... Very unique is a good place to start and marrying that with attractive materials and aesthetics makes it a winner in my book.
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Future proof with USB type C, but it still uses USB 2.0. I understand this in a way, as people rarely transfer stuff via cable, but still. I really like all the features though. Especially being stock android and updated more frequently.
The damn MDM admin just let me know that he pre-purchased a 128GB Nexus 6p for himself to try out Android for Work. I wasn't allowed one but was instead offered by my boss that they would take half the cost of a 32GB Nexus 6p without taking ownership of the phone.
Baaah, I can't decide. Wait for the MDM admin to become tired of his new toy or buy my own. I want a new phone to play with!

Fitur said:
Not sure why they skipped out on OIS. I just noticed my GS6's OIS in action yesterday. It's a great feature but I guess I can live without it. Can you double press the power button from sleep to open camera?
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Yes, it has ability to double tap power button at any time to open the camera.

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Yes, it has ability to double tap power button at any time to open the camera.
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Are there any other features, like ambient display or something that is specific to the Nexus 6p?

i didnt find any root for my htc desire 310.
any help???

Fitur said:
Are there any other features, like ambient display or something that is specific to the Nexus 6p?
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A few stand-out features it has:
- Ambient display (although not as sensitive as the Moto version)
- A notification LED (optional in settings)
- Front facing stereo speakers (loud and good quality)
- 120 or 240 FPS slow motion video capture
- Laser autofocus for quick photo focusing
- Super quick finger print scanner
- 8MP selfie camera that is higher resolution than most right now
- Always listening OK Google support (not sure if it's the hardware or Marshmallow, but it doesn't eat much battery)
- And of course, Android 6.0 Marshmallow with monthly security updates, and the latest versions in the future
That's all I can think of off the top of my head!

I love the 6p but I'd say don't get it. Not for any of the reasons you mentioned but because phones with the snapdragon 820 are coming in a couple months and if half the hype is true it's worth the wait.
My old Nexus 5 took a digger. If it hadn't I'd have waited.

untruestory said:
I love the 6p but I'd say don't get it. Not for any of the reasons you mentioned but because phones with the snapdragon 820 are coming in a couple months and if half the hype is true it's worth the wait.
My old Nexus 5 took a digger. If it hadn't I'd have waited.
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There's always something new and "better" coming in a couple months
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akellar said:
There's always something new and "better" coming in a couple months
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Very true. Ask things considered it's been an insignificant year for phones. The 810 that's in the 6p has been out a bit and even then it's based on old tech and isn't a big upgrade from what came before it. The 820 is. The 6p is without a doubt one of the best phones out and I bought it because I think it's THE best available despite it's low price. However, there's really nothing new or extraordinary about it.
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Fitur said:
Are there any other features, like ambient display or something that is specific to the Nexus 6p?
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1. Fastest and most reliable/natural fingerprint scanner with native support from Google.
2. Those stereo speakers are sublime. Better than iP6+, Z3, Note 3 and 4. Besides... their front firing.
3. Probably the BEST front facing camera available! That's if you're into that sort of thing. Tell the ladies.
4. Most smooth and most responsive UI in the Android world.
5. The earliest/fastest software updates and support from Google.
6. USB Type C with fast charging capable of drawing 3A from the stock charger. 10% - 100% in 90 minutes precisely. Also, high speed data transfer rates.
Ambient display is terrible/buggy/unreliable.
Thermal throttling is a bit aggressive.
Display isn't as bright or white as my Z3 or iP6+.

subhani said:
1. Fastest and most reliable/natural fingerprint scanner with native support from Google.
2. Those stereo speakers are sublime. Better than iP6+, Z3, Note 3 and 4. Besides... their front firing.
3. Probably the BEST front facing camera available! That's if you're into that sort of thing. Tell the ladies.
4. Most smooth and most responsive UI in the Android world.
5. The earliest/fastest software updates and support from Google.
6. USB Type C with fast charging capable of drawing 3A from the stock charger. 10% - 100% in 90 minutes precisely. Also, high speed data transfer rates.
Ambient display is terrible/buggy/unreliable.
Thermal throttling is a bit aggressive.
Display isn't as bright or white as my Z3 or iP6+.
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In what way is the ambient display unreliable? Do you have an example?
How often do you actually notice the throttling compared to non-vanilla phones?
untruestory said:
Very true. Ask things considered it's been an insignificant year for phones. The 810 that's in the 6p has been out a bit and even then it's based on old tech and isn't a big upgrade from what came before it. The 820 is. The 6p is without a doubt one of the best phones out and I bought it because I think it's THE best available despite it's low price. However, there's really nothing new or extraordinary about it.
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There is always a reason to wait. Especially when I have a phone in the same spec segment, however, I'm really concerned if I have the patience to stick with the SGS6 after being terrible in almost every way.
BillyTheRatKing said:
A few stand-out features it has:
- Ambient display (although not as sensitive as the Moto version)
- A notification LED (optional in settings)
- Front facing stereo speakers (loud and good quality)
- 120 or 240 FPS slow motion video capture
- Laser autofocus for quick photo focusing
- Super quick finger print scanner
- 8MP selfie camera that is higher resolution than most right now
- Always listening OK Google support (not sure if it's the hardware or Marshmallow, but it doesn't eat much battery)
- And of course, Android 6.0 Marshmallow with monthly security updates, and the latest versions in the future
That's all I can think of off the top of my head!
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Thanks!

Thanks for all the replies!
I decided for the 64GB graphite Nexus 6P, which I will receive December 7th.
I can barely wait!

Is the 6P a worthy upgrade from the One Plus One?

Can you please suggest me, what is going on in this country?

rajarshi10 said:
Can you please suggest me, what is going on in this country?
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hell yes

Hmmm....

jaythenut said:
hell yes
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Hell yeah...I had the oneplusone before my 6P have had it now for hmm nearly a month and am super happy with my Nexus 6P.
Rooted it and have now Viper4Android on it with Beanstalk/Marshmellow Runs like a dream!!

Nah I would wait for the ZTE AXOM MAX or the HTC A9

icem8n said:
Hell yeah...I had the oneplusone before my 6P have had it now for hmm nearly a month and am super happy with my Nexus 6P.
Rooted it and have now Viper4Android on it with Beanstalk/Marshmellow Runs like a dream!!
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And that's why I said yes it is a good upgrade

I've had the Oneplus One, moved on to the Oneplus Two, and finally settled on the Nexus 6P. I was actually pretty happy with all three devices but there are definitely strengths and weaknesses for each one. What tilted the decision in favor of the 6P was definitely the camera. I was expecting good things from the Oneplus Two, but its implementation left me disappointed.
Oneplus One:
+ Battery Life
+ Robust community for custom roms
- Plasticky external build quality
- Weak Camera
- Lacks fingerprint sensor
Oneplus Two
+ Dual Sim, a useful feature for me since I'm often travelling
+ Excellent external build quality
+/- OxygenOS isn't as bad as what others make it out to be and works well mostly
- Poor fingerprint sensor implementation (doesn't recognize my finger half the time)
- Camera can be further improved (keeps adjusting focus during video capture)
Nexus 6P
+ Best camera of the lot, even with the lack of OIS
+ Marshmallow: Doze has been phenomenal so far
+ Fingerprint sensor is consistently fast and accurate
+ Gorgeous screen and outstanding build quality
+/- Mixed feelings about Ambient Display for now, potentially useful but Android Wear supersedes its value
- DT2W not available on stock rom
- Bluetooth audio constantly skipping if Android Wear is connected concurrently (YMMV)
- Does not work with certain earphones without workarounds, e.g. Xiaomi Pistons

I'm assuming the OP is not a rhetorical question.
I owned a OnePlus One briefly and I currently have a OnePlus Two. Neither holds a candle to the Nexus 6P. Everything about the 6P, from the build to the display to the camera to the SoC to the fingerprint sensor, is a step up from the OnePlus Two, let alone the OnePlus One, which is getting long in the tooth at this point.
The lack of out-of-the-box double-tap to wake (which, frankly, is a huge pain-point for me since I love the feature and I don't think it'd tax Android too much, frankly -- Windows 10/8.1. has it, for crying out loud -- it doesn't cause much drain on lesser hardware so I don't know why this isn't a stock feature of Android's) is one the few minuses for the Nexus 6P.
I've not had issues with other things like connectivity (6.0.1. apparently introduced some LTE issues for some users), or popping glass or bending chassis. I suspect there are things behind those stories (except the LTE issue, which is quite fixable) than the reports suggest.
Let me use an analogy to answer your question. The OnePlus One is a nice little Volkswagen Beetle (emissions issues aside). Reliable, affordable, fun to drive, nice to look at, etc. Meanwhile, the Nexus 6P is a 5 series BMW. An elegant, high performance machine that also projects a certain level of means. They're in different classes of cars so comparing them is like comparing apples and bananas. At the end of the day, while you'll always love your Beetle, if you can afford to get a 5 or 7-series BMW, you should definitely get one. The same thing can be said for the OnePlus One and the Nexus 6P.

^good analogy! Why drive a car if you can fly First Class! Nexus6 P ftw

rajarshi10 said:
Can you please suggest me, what is going on in this country?
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FWIW: My OPO died at 14 months and OPO refused to do anything about it saying that it was out of warranty so I was out of luck. You can draw your own conclusions.
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I just came from a opo, its not as big of an upgrade as you might think. The in hand feel is nice, but the opo feels sturdier, performance is nice, but not that much better than when I was running sultanxdas marshmallow release. The battery does not last as long on my 6p, but the camera and upcoming band 12 support are the reasons why I switched. That's about it. Oh the fingerprint reader is cool, but I used smartlock so I rarely needed to unlock anyways.
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So I guess, sticking to my One Plus One isn't a bad idea after all.

Is the Nexus 6p (and other nexus devices) overrated

So I've been seeing alot of posts saying the nexus 6p is "the best android phone ever". Well I, for one, don't quite agree. Yea, it runs stock android which makes the UI alot smoother compared to say samsung . But still the camera is only average. Processor isn't on the real high end build is unique but not a sexy phone. So what are your views?

It's all about perception
For me the one word review is
SATISFACTION.
Cheers ?
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Actually the camera on this phone is very good and not just average.
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Google-Nexus-6P-review-Serious-contender-for-mobile-photography
Very satisfied with this phone. Android pay works with root, speedy and very good battery life for me. I can use different carriers. No bend for me as that is usually from non average handling and I always use a case.
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Loser.lon said:
So I've been seeing alot of posts saying the nexus 6p is "the best android phone ever". Well I, for one, don't quite agree. Yea, it runs stock android which makes the UI alot smoother compared to say samsung . But still the camera is only average. Processor isn't on the real high end build is unique but not a sexy phone. So what are your views?
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Overall as a total package it is the best Android phone I have used. The battery life is a bit disappointing as I was expecting iPhone 6S Plus type battery but I'm still overall very pleased.

It's a very good phone IMHO, but with the bending issue, noise on the headphone jack and no Android pay with Xposed I feel pretty dumb for buying this instead of a oneplus 2. I have a oneplus one and that phone is solid. I skipped the op2 because of nfc and now I have a bent 6p and still no Android pay. Might not be such a big deal but the 6p costs so much more for similar specs.
Yeah the 6p has a "better" display, but I can't really sus out a big difference unless I'm really looking for it. The camera is also a bit better(mostly in low light).

Loser.lon said:
So I've been seeing alot of posts saying the nexus 6p is "the best android phone ever". Well I, for one, don't quite agree. Yea, it runs stock android which makes the UI alot smoother compared to say samsung . But still the camera is only average. Processor isn't on the real high end build is unique but not a sexy phone. So what are your views?
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Are you serious? 810 was the best SOC at the time from Qualcomm, nothing better. This is the newest Super AMOLED from Samsung. Uses larger pixels for camera, best in class for all situations which often are low light. This is so successful Samsung took note and reduced 16mp to 12mp for larger pixel and sensor. Only Moto X Pure has better speakers. Add that with the excellent battery and software, there is little doubt Nexus 6P was the best Android Phone of 2015. No other phone provided the full package. The fingerprint is icing on the cake, Google's imprint is the best fingerprint solution on any smartphone to date.
For custom roms, 6P is heaven. I used Purity in the past, not available for 6P, but I am using it anyway. Building roms for 6P for either CM/AOSP/OMNI based roms is an absolute breeze.
As for quality issues? No idea since I haven't seen any Nexus 6P in the wild that aren't in pristine condition and well perfect.
For those complaining about Android Pay and they rooted for Xposed? That is hilarious...
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zymphad said:
Are you serious? 810 was the best SOC at the time from Qualcomm, nothing better. This is the newest Super AMOLED from Samsung. Uses larger pixels for camera, best in class for all situations which often are low light. This is so successful Samsung took note and reduced 16mp to 12mp for larger pixel and sensor. Only Moto X Pure has better speakers. Add that with the excellent battery and software, there is little doubt Nexus 6P was the best Android Phone of 2015. No other phone provided the full package. The fingerprint is icing on the cake, Google's imprint is the best fingerprint solution on any smartphone to date.
For custom roms, 6P is heaven. I used Purity in the past, not available for 6P, but I am using it anyway. Building roms for 6P for either CM/AOSP/OMNI based roms is an absolute breeze.
As for quality issues? No idea since I haven't seen any Nexus 6P in the wild that aren't in pristine condition and well perfect.
For those complaining about Android Pay and they rooted for Xposed? That is hilarious...
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The Android pay issue is not the phones fault but it's worth noting that in my case I went into it after having used Google wallet for years with exposed on multiple devices. I didn't want the op2 because no nfc, little did I know that it wouldn't matter with Android pay since it locked down the ability to use with root.

I'm not going to get into a war that neither side can win since it's our opinion... But in my opinion, they are insanely overrated, 6P included. I will just leave it at that.

Actually it's underrated and keeps getting better with time & xda! :silly:

If your heavily invested in your mobile OS, and want everything to work, buy an iPhone.
If you prefer Android, and still want everything to work, Nexus is your best bet. Otherwise, you risk OEM skins breaking things (AA, Wear, etc.), and possibly never seeing a firmware upgrade that gets things right.
Glad your OPO worked perfectly for you; it did not for many.
This is of course just how I see things, but it is due to years of experience with my ear very close to the ground. (C;

WizeGuyDezignz said:
I'm not going to get into a war that neither side can win since it's our opinion... But in my opinion, they are insanely overrated, 6P included. I will just leave it at that.
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Yes we know, you spend all your time on XDA trying to stop folks from buying Nexus and buying a Galaxy phone. It's very clear from your post history you don't actually contribute anything to XDA other than negativity about the 6P.

Is the Nexus 6p Overrated? ....................A IPhone is Overrated. Honestly I would have to say NO, you cant even go to a carrier and pick one up yet. Here is my reason for a a Nexus device:
-Service
Supports CDMA, GSM and Voice over WI-FI, Great for me since I have Verizon and it also would make it easy for me to drop Verizon and go somewhere else without spend 700$+ on their new phone.
-Price to performance
For 499$-649$ now compare to the Samsung S7 edge 800-900$ and performing nearly the same and difference are in the 1-3 sec range (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smY4FOeVdvs)
-Pretty Great display
It's a Samsung AMOLED Display, only thing you don't get is a super bright mode for the outdoors.
-Great Camera
It not the best camera but it’s a great camera. It’s able to take great picture at night and during the day. 1080p and 4k recording is great when not moving. But I notice EIS work with 1080 but it disables somehow with 4k. I don't have a 4k display yet so I don't really use 4k feature. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMHeX8gGy3k)
- Metal build
I'm still wondering how in the world people are bending their phones. It seems like a lot of people watching YouTube these day a little too much. I guess I’m a lucky person who never had that issue. I loved the build but i do rock a case on it, the metal does make it feels like it worth its price.
-Finger print scanner
Best thing that could happen to a smartphone. but it need to be integrated in to more app other the android pay.
-Front facing speaker
Only one other phone that could come close to this level of sound quality is a HTC device with boom sound.
-Battery
This is one of the hardest subject because we all don't use our phones the same. More you play games and watch video faster your battery goes down. Usually on an 8 hour work I get to 83% with light (email, phone call, text message, Facebook). Come home and play games and watch YouTube for 4-5 hours and get to 20% -15%
-No bloatware (include carrier software)
-You know you are get a next Android Update
-Google provides a monthly security Update
-Most active developer community on the internet
-Knowing that you will be able to unlock your bootloader
-Having ROMs and Kernel

It definitely isn't overrated, its extremely reasonably priced in comparison to hilarious outrageous prices charged by Samsung and Apple, its a premium phone without the premium price tag with the best software experience around on a mobile OS. Also the camera definitely isn't average.

People around me think it's overrated (and way overpriced) too, but that's just because I'm in China where no one appreciates the simplicity and speed of AOSP-based Android. The camera is even better with the aid of apps like Camera FV-5 (e.g. macro), and finger scanning speed beats iPhones to it. They like the new MI 5 for instance, but they've never been able to get their hands on one
But yeah, I hate the looks the more I look at it. I don't want it to look like a Huawei phone, lest look like a Mate 7.
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zymphad said:
Yes we know, you spend all your time on XDA trying to stop folks from buying Nexus and buying a Galaxy phone. It's very clear from your post history you don't actually contribute anything to XDA other than negativity about the 6P.
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I spend all my time trying to stop people from buying this phone? Good job making up stories. I never once told someone not to buy it to my knowledge. I've given my opinion like you, but never flat out told someone not to buy it.
I have a right to my opinion that it's overrated. I've said this from the minute I became obsessed with Android phones years ago... People grossly overrate stock Android, hence Nexus phones as well.
For a small and quick example... The 6P is the first Nexus which doesn't have a downright embarrassing camera, yet people still said Nexus was the best. Camera is just one example. Let's not forget the laughable screens on the Nexus 4 and 5, and the color issues with the 6 and 6P.
Anyhow, glad you like your phone. You should if you're using it each day. Everyone has their own needs. I'm happy for you as much as you won't believe it lol. Remember, there is no wrong choice.

WizeGuyDezignz said:
I have a right to my opinion that it's overrated. I've said this from the minute I became obsessed with Android phones years ago... People grossly overrate stock Android, hence Nexus phones as well.
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Your arguments don't make much sense since Nexus phones were introduced as what Google meant android to be and as a development platform for app developers and for those who contribute to the AOSP project.
Nexus phones were advertised as the best stock android experience and that is true, this is as google meant android to be. Obviously a lot of folks want the Samsung/LG/HTC etc experience. It is ludicrous to say that is overrated, no brand of phone does stock android better. Anyone buying a Nexus device should know what it is they are buying.
Nexus as a mainstream device only came about because a following developed for the stock experience. Camera would not have been high on the list, promoting Android, and helping some manufactures gain brand recognition and growth was. It wasn't until Nexus 5 Google saw Nexus as a brand to go head to head with Apple. Nexus 6 first attempt, and Google managing to provide this level of camera experience and overall feel at $450 one year later is amazing.
Despite the amazing hardware and refinements, I still see Nexus phones as the best way to introduce someone to android on a budget. It comes with great hardware, 810/806, good battery life, fingerprint, monthly security updates, an open platform to use device as you wish (rooting, development), and a great simple point and shoot camera for all lighting conditions. I do not see how that is overrated.
If one wanted the absolute best camera, materials, quality controlled and tested build, and the prestige or popularism, Nexus clearly not the phone. Best to look at an iPhone frankly...

Loser.lon said:
So I've been seeing alot of posts saying the nexus 6p is "the best android phone ever". Well I, for one, don't quite agree. Yea, it runs stock android which makes the UI alot smoother compared to say samsung . But still the camera is only average. Processor isn't on the real high end build is unique but not a sexy phone. So what are your views?
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I had the LG G4 for 6 months, sold it and now am happily using a Nexus 6P. I missed my Nexus 5 and the "development" side of things, so going back to the Nexus family makes me happy.

Nexus is perfect for a specific type of user.... The smart ones! Besides the 6p has better low light camera response than g4/v10, which was best from last year.
It's a highly customizable device. Doesn't compare to Samsung or lg in this department. IPhone isn't even on the same planet, its the opposite of customizing.
Also the 6p's 810 v2 has received over 120,000 antutu benchmarks consistently without getting hot or rapid battery loss.
Lastly it will be current for at least 3 to 4 years (maybe more) with a custom ROM.

markwebb said:
Actually the camera on this phone is very good and not just average.
http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Google-Nexus-6P-review-Serious-contender-for-mobile-photography
Very satisfied with this phone. Android pay works with root, speedy and very good battery life for me. I can use different carriers. No bend for me as that is usually from non average handling and I always use a case.
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Haha sorry I was wrong when I said average camera. Better then average but maybe not up to s6 standard?

Everyone has different uses for their phone. Some likes phones with better camera who doesnt watch videos or play games... Some enjoy playing games and dont really use the camera. Some like to listen audio or surf the web.. Some who are rich and just needs a phone.
There is no 1 phone that is the best for everything. If it existed, it woudnt be cheap.. Just look at the 2 biggest players, Apple and Samsung.. their phones still has flaws and cost much more then Nexus devices, even though the nexus devices over the past years are getting up there... This device is just as good as any Samsung or iPhone (of the same year) IMHO...

does it still worth it?

With all those new phone's came out lately.
I'm confused, S7 looks like a beast, and he is far more beautiful than the 6P.
Although he is also much more expensive and not to mention the crappy touchwiz.
Same thing with Note 5.
The one that caught me is the HTC 10.
But also much more expensive.
Anoter area that I'm curious about is the brightness level, how's the 6P handle?
Thanks!
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HTC 10... Get the HTC ....
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The battery ? is sucks the brightness ? not the best
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badmentor.ah said:
The battery ? is sucks the brightness ? not the best
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Really bad battery life? My G4 SOT is around 2-2.5h depends on usage (gaming or not)
But this isn't bothering me because i have another battery with me.
But this isn't the case with the 6P that's why it's important for me.
Ya i thought the brightness isn't special from all what i heard, but i guess it is better that the G4, right?
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I don't use the g4 but from what I hear about it the camera is the one thing good in it.
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If you're not concerned of losing the stock android interface and monthly updates, go for either of them. Just be careful, apparently the maximum brightness on the HTC is low too.
Nexus 6P is a good device but brightness is quite subpar* ; same goes with battery life, considering the beefy battery it has got!
* all stock
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I'm not sure why anyone is complaining about battery life on this device, it performs really well for me. It mostly comes down to individual setup anyway, it's like installing a turbo on your car and then complaining that the car has terrible fuel efficiency.
As for whether it's still worth it, probably not. I certainly wouldn't be opting for Samsung though, and the HTC is nice but you'll be waiting several months for any updates. The next Nexus is only a few months away probably, I'd be waiting for that.

no, definitely go with the HTC 10. I got my 6p and damn the mic, speaks, and call quality is terrible !!!
stay away plus its way large

probiewankenobi said:
If you're not concerned of losing the stock android interface and monthly updates, go for either of them. Just be careful, apparently the maximum brightness on the HTC is low too.
Nexus 6P is a good device but brightness is quite subpar* ; same goes with battery life, considering the beefy battery it has got!
* all stock
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The only device i would give up pure android for is HTC. Sense is my second favorite if not par with stock android.
After been with HTC One M8 for a year and a half, than switching for LG G4.
I know how good HTC devices is, only problem is that here in ny country HTC ain't popular, most people's buy iPhone or Samsung and lately LG. Which cost me when i sold my M8, after bought it for 700$ and sold for only 250$ in new condition.
I guess the brightness on the Nexus 6P is higher than HTC 10 and my LG G4.
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Heisenberg said:
I'm not sure why anyone is complaining about battery life on this device, it performs really well for me. It mostly comes down to individual setup anyway, it's like installing a turbo on your car and then complaining that the car has terrible fuel efficiency.
As for whether it's still worth it, probably not. I certainly wouldn't be opting for Samsung though, and the HTC is nice but you'll be waiting several months for any updates. The next Nexus is only a few months away probably, I'd be waiting for that.
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What i like about Samsung devices
(S7 edge and note 5)
Is the amazing display and brightness.
All other thing's including software is awful, at least for me.
S7 edge is a really beauty device, but way too expensive.
If I'll buy the HTC 10 i could live with the several month's update because it has sense which is the closets one to pure android. But also there, too expensive..
What do you mean by few month's away?
I guess also when it'll come out it'll be expensive, and till than my G4 will loss another 200$.
I'll wait for more answers, What bothering me mostly on the Nexus 6P is SD810, as G4 has SD808 which is not that different..
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mr.dj26 said:
no, definitely go with the HTC 10. I got my 6p and damn the mic, speaks, and call quality is terrible !!!
stay away plus its way large
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Oh wow, that's a little surprising me. I thought it has some really good quality speakers and mic.
What do you say about brightness?
Is it really that bad in direct sun or outdoors?
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ben33891471 said:
What i like about Samsung devices
(S7 edge and note 5)
Is the amazing display and brightness.
All other thing's including software is awful, at least for me.
S7 edge is a really beauty device, but way too expensive.
If I'll buy the HTC 10 i could live with the several month's update because it has sense which is the closets one to pure android. But also there, too expensive..
What do you mean by few month's away?
I guess also when it'll come out it'll be expensive, and till than my G4 will loss another 200$.
I'll wait for more answers, What bothering me mostly on the Nexus 6P is SD810, as G4 has SD808 which is not that different..
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As far as skins go, Sense is ok. I'm I'll never use a Touchwiz device though, that's awful.
There are rumours that the new Nexus lineup will be released in American summer, but probably in October/November like usual.

Heisenberg said:
I'm not sure why anyone is complaining about battery life on this device, it performs really well for me. It mostly comes down to individual setup anyway, it's like installing a turbo on your car and then complaining that the car has terrible fuel efficiency.
As for whether it's still worth it, probably not. I certainly wouldn't be opting for Samsung though, and the HTC is nice but you'll be waiting several months for any updates. The next Nexus is only a few months away probably, I'd be waiting for that.
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You won't be waiting "several months" for any updates. The software on the 10 is similar to the A9 and is actually closer to stock than the A9 which got updates roughly 15 days after Nexus devices. Definitely not several months.
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no, definitely go with the HTC 10. I got my 6p and damn the mic, speaks, and call quality is terrible !!!
stay away plus its way large
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I am coming from the M9. The 6P blows it away in every category you mentioned. I can't even get cell reception in my basement on the M9 and the 6P has 2-3 bars. Since nobody really has the 10 other than reviewers you can't really definitely make that statement.
I will say I already miss Sense somewhat. I like having screenshot in the drop down quick settings. Where is the battery percentage? I have the system tuner version but it is useless once you get into the 50-60's percentage. Why no option to restart instead of just turning off? Gmail is terrible for exchange. I tried it again in hopes that the update this week would address some problems but it sucks. The camera app on the 10 will be much better than the 6P. HTC Mail is way better and I can't get hacked versions of HTC apps to work that is on XDA. HTC does some really good things to compliment Android without being overbearing like Touchwiz which keeps it running smooth years later, unlike Samsung. They are subtle but when you don't have them you start to notice.
That said, I was not about to pay $300 more for the 10. If it was the same price. I would have bought it. No phone is worth $1,000.

neo905 said:
You won't be waiting "several months" for any updates. The software on the 10 is similar to the A9 and is actually closer to stock than the A9 which got updates roughly 15 days after Nexus devices. Definitely not several months.
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I am coming from the M9. The 6P blows it away in every category you mentioned. I can't even get cell reception in my basement on the M9 and the 6P has 2-3 bars. Since nobody really has the 10 other than reviewers you can't really definitely make that statement.
I will say I already miss Sense somewhat. I like having screenshot in the drop down quick settings. Where is the battery percentage? I have the system tuner version but it is useless once you get into the 50-60's percentage. Why no option to restart instead of just turning off? Gmail is terrible for exchange. I tried it again in hopes that the update this week would address some problems but it sucks. The camera app on the 10 will be much better than the 6P. HTC Mail is way better and I can't get hacked versions of HTC apps to work that is on XDA. HTC does some really good things to compliment Android without being overbearing like Touchwiz which keeps it running smooth years later, unlike Samsung. They are subtle but when you don't have them you start to notice.
That said, I was not about to pay $300 more for the 10. If it was the same price. I would have bought it. No phone is worth $1,000.
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You are right, i won't buy a phone that cost more than 700$.
My HTC One M8 cost me 700$ and i enjoyed him the whole time i had him
(a year and a half).
When i moved to G4 i missed the sense as well.
But over time you get used to what ever phone you have, unless you have Samsung??
Also i wanted to ask you, as i still wait for more answers, don't wanna rely on one person.
What do you say about the brightness on the 6P? how's it's handle direct sun and outdoors visibility? And how's the camera?
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Don't get Samsung. You will course the day you bought a Samsung.
Get the HTC.
The Nexus is a sweet device fir sure.
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ben33891471 said:
You are right, i won't buy a phone that cost more than 700$.
My HTC One M8 cost me 700$ and i enjoyed him the whole time i had him
(a year and a half).
When i moved to G4 i missed the sense as well.
But over time you get used to what ever phone you have, unless you have Samsung
Also i wanted to ask you, as i still wait for more answers, don't wanna rely on one person.
What do you say about the brightness on the 6P? how's it's handle direct sun and outdoors visibility? And how's the camera?
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Coming from the M9 it is way better. I guess it all depends on your frame of reference and if you had a S6 S7 Samsung screen before. I can also see what people talk about with this display vs a LCD one on HTC. The images just are more vivid and punchy. If you like the flat look you can change that on the 6P as well. I like the saturation though for a change. The 10's screen is better than the M8 and M9 but not as good as the 6P. At least not $300 better. That's for sure.

ben33891471 said:
You are right, i won't buy a phone that cost more than 700$.
My HTC One M8 cost me 700$ and i enjoyed him the whole time i had him
(a year and a half).
When i moved to G4 i missed the sense as well.
But over time you get used to what ever phone you have, unless you have Samsung
Also i wanted to ask you, as i still wait for more answers, don't wanna rely on one person.
What do you say about the brightness on the 6P? how's it's handle direct sun and outdoors visibility? And how's the camera?
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The display used in nexus 6p is made by Samsung... I don't think brightness should be an issue... Also you could use ultra brightness mode in elementalx kernel... Regarding camera it's good.... Haven't used g4 so can't exactly compare them... Pm me your email. I will send you photos captured by 6p..
Note: sd810 doesn't support 10bit hevc hardware decoding whereas s7 exynos supports it... So sd820 may support it too... Shouldn't bother you if you don't watch 10bit videos on phone.

Samsung = Knox.
If you want to tether on an UDP (Verizon) you must have root for WiFi tether.
So if I were to buy a phone today, unless I could unlock the bootloader, the device is not on my shopping list.
So for me on Verizon, Nexus or HTC. With HTC you can at least usually pay someone for S-Off.

I have an M9 from day one last year. Really liked it but got the 6P last November because of the improved camera. Also because the monthly updates it receives.
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Also who needs removable battery now that there are recharge packs.
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Really on the fence atm as well.. The 32gb is about $650 CAD and the 64gb is about $700 CAD on Newegg.. Ive been running through reviews and comparison videos all week and I am so close to purchasing it, but the price still kind of hurts. It has everything I need, but battery life seems to vary among everyone. The camera also seems to have some issues and lag time between users. The most recent update was suppose to fix it, but some users are still experiencing slow-downs. The phone is almost 7 months old, but since its by Google, updates will always be rolling out.
Love stock android as I had the Galaxy Nexus and Nexus 5, but moved away to the Asus Zenfone 2, which is already experiencing slow downs and my camera is all wonky. I would never purchase a phone over $600, but the Nexus 6P is looking amazing. Right now, I am just looking for a way to justify buying it

Nexus 6P to Essential PH-1....is the camera better on the PH-1?

Hello XDA (it's been awhile)
While I've been INCREDIBLY happy with my rooted Nexus 6P, it's battery capacity has faded (61% degradation) and with the PH-1 now going for $280 I find my track pad hovering above the "add to cart" on amazon but I haven't yet....partially because I want to hold out until a Pixel 3XL
Using 'Camer NX' has given me a modded version of the Google camera and has taken stunning pictures, the only fear I have is that the camera in the PH-1 is a step below what I'm currently using can anyone put my fears to ease about that?
Thanks in advance!

USFguy said:
Hello XDA (it's been awhile)
While I've been INCREDIBLY happy with my rooted Nexus 6P, it's battery capacity has faded (61% degradation) and with the PH-1 now going for $280 I find my track pad hovering above the "add to cart" on amazon but I haven't yet....partially because I want to hold out until a Pixel 3XL
Using 'Camer NX' has given me a modded version of the Google camera and has taken stunning pictures, the only fear I have is that the camera in the PH-1 is a step below what I'm currently using can anyone put my fears to ease about that?
Thanks in advance!
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Hold out for the pixel 3. The camera on ph1 is average. And most of us use the Gmod cam for better pictures.

USFguy said:
Hello XDA (it's been awhile)
While I've been INCREDIBLY happy with my rooted Nexus 6P, it's battery capacity has faded (61% degradation) and with the PH-1 now going for $280 I find my track pad hovering above the "add to cart" on amazon but I haven't yet....partially because I want to hold out until a Pixel 3XL
Using 'Camer NX' has given me a modded version of the Google camera and has taken stunning pictures, the only fear I have is that the camera in the PH-1 is a step below what I'm currently using can anyone put my fears to ease about that?
Thanks in advance!
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The phone is a great phone and right now you can get the gray on Amazon for under $300. It's a no brain upgrade the 6P.

ceelos218 said:
Hold out for the pixel 3. The camera on ph1 is average. And most of us use the Gmod cam for better pictures.
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I'm also considering grabbing the PH-1 now...and seeing what the Pixel 3 looks like around the holidays....and then gifting the PH-1
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The phone is a great phone and right now you can get the gray on Amazon for under $300. It's a no brain upgrade the 6P.
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That's the temptation that's sitting before me.....I just don't want to take too much of a step back in camera quality

Just order the ph-1 from my aging nexus 6(replaced the stock battery a few mo this ago... Cant wait for it to arrive Tuesday at 280 usd its a no Brainerd.
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I just ordered an Essential Phone today ($223 on Amazon.com!!) and am coming from a 6P right now as well (early shutdown at 15-20%). I'm not looking forward to a degradation in camera quality, but the 6P is unbearably slow after 2 years, so it's time for an upgrade.
The harder decision seems to be finding a decent case/screen protector.

USFguy said:
Hello XDA (it's been awhile)
Using 'Camer NX' has given me a modded version of the Google camera and has taken stunning pictures, the only fear I have is that the camera in the PH-1 is a step below what I'm currently using can anyone put my fears to ease about that?
Thanks in advance!
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I've never used a 6P so I can't speak to a comparison but: using GCam (I'm currently running Toylan's, there's a thread with settings) this camera has achieved good enough status. The stock cam in mono is good too. Are there better? Yes of course, but the price difference outweighs camera improvements IMO.

Depends what you're doing and what you expect.
I find the PH1 stock app on par with the 6P (and even the PXL except in poor conditions). The app is significantly improved, you can always use a gcam port, and it's a great phone that rivals the PXL2 (I've had all of these phones and a number of others in the same lifespan as your 6P)

kboya said:
Depends what you're doing and what you expect.
I find the PH1 stock app on par with the 6P (and even the PXL except in poor conditions). The app is significantly improved, you can always use a gcam port, and it's a great phone that rivals the PXL2 (I've had all of these phones and a number of others in the same lifespan as your 6P)
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Rivals the pixel 2 in photo quality?? LOL I really hope that isn't what you mean.
That is about the most bs I've ever heard.

Nope, it's a great phone that rivals the PXL2.

kboya said:
Nope, it's a great phone that rivals the PXL2.
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Aside from the touchscreen sensitivity, jitter, reception and camera, I would agree. Build quality wise it is way better imo. I moved to a pixel 2 recently, and aside from those things (and amoled screen, I did miss these blacks), I would say it was on par otherwise. It is a good phone, and for the price, a real steal.
It had a few showstoppers for me and getting a pixel 2 for free sealed the deal, otherwise I would have kept it for a long time. I still had to debate which to keep honestly.

Seen many youtube videos saying the cam is much improved in 9.0...also called amazon and they match the difference of 56 dollars on my ph-1 [emoji123]... The camera isn't the reason I'm getting the phone... Community support and 3 years of software updates from the company... It's the only other device besides the pixel line to be running 9.0 on day 1. The ph-one is now 335 on amazon [emoji16].
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crixley said:
Aside from the touchscreen sensitivity, jitter, reception and camera, I would agree. Build quality wise it is way better imo. I moved to a pixel 2 recently, and aside from those things (and amoled screen, I did miss these blacks), I would say it was on par otherwise. It is a good phone, and for the price, a real steal.
It had a few showstoppers for me and getting a pixel 2 for free sealed the deal, otherwise I would have kept it for a long time. I still had to debate which to keep honestly.
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I slept on it overnight...and the price dropped even FARTHER to $224 but now is back up to $335 :crying:

Arnovas 8.2 Google camera pixel2 mod... Turns avg camera to above average... For the price, this phone is an easy sell