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Hi Everyone,
I have now Note 4 N910C , although it should be one of the fastest phones ever as usual Samsung managed to ruin it with the Touchwiz , battery isn't that good and with mobile data on just usable for max 12~14 hours.
I had LG G2 before and it was an amazing device, Liked it very much and was great in performance and battery. Tried Galaxy S5 and now the Note 4 after it but not feel that i am satisfied.
So due you recommend moving to G4 ?! What's your experience with it ? don't care about benchmarking the devices and comparing numbers to each other ,,, daily use is more important to me
what about it's battery ??? the battery was great in G2
Camera samples looks very good and almost all reviews are positive.
any one tried the dual sim version of it ?!
your advice is highly appreciated , thanks in advance
Dears,
Andy Advise ?!
Hey Mohammed, i just bought the dual sim edition from Dubai. So far, it's pretty decent. But... There's always a but! G4 owners will murder me for this lol
Ok, using 2 STC sim cards, I managed to switch ONLy one SIM card to 4H. The other one seems to be a 3G (also, when I make/receive a phone call from the 3G SIM card, the Internet gets disconnected from the other one until I hang up)
As for the battery life 6 hours of a brutal usage, and around 12 hours of average on duty usage. But I'm ok with it as I got the gift pack with it and it comes with an extra battery+its charger kit
As for the camera.. And coming from Lumia 1020, I'm quite disappointed. It's a decent camera. Takes roughly 3 seconds to shoot from a locked screen and focusing withthe Vol down double click. <--- similar to the speed of my lumia 1020
When it comes to sharpness and clarity, its an average phone. Somewhat similar to the S6.
As for the speed, its a flowless device. Multitasking is really good.
As for the Stylus, you might feel that you're downgrading if you're a stylus dependent. Add 195$ to it and get yourself "Phree pen".. Google it. It's a revolutionary gadget
And please, don't buy the bull$#!รท said about the lack of premium feel due to the plastic build. Its a decent phone amd rigid. And LIGHT. new "primium feeling" phone are all made of metal and are quite heavy. A straight hour of holding them will get you a horrible wrist sore. This G4 wont
Plz feel free to ask me anything, i might be able to answer you accordingly
I am 80% convinced to get the G4, the only alternative is the Note Edge.
New S6 ported roms on Note 4 and Edge are nice enough or it's still a much laggier phone than G4?
Wait for the LG G4 Pro.
So, my Xperia M4 is broken and I want to buy a new phone.
I read about the oneplus x and I really like it, it has many beautiful features and suitable for developing.
But I read also that because of the high resolution of the display it drains the battery super fast.
And want to ask you oneplus x users:
Do you have a problem with the battery
Does it drains fast.
And finally I want you to give me your general thoughts about this phone should I buys it (note that I want a cheap phone that supports installing custom ROMs especially CM)
Thanks in advance
dont
battery life not good
crappy video recording ( even with sultans hal , its noisy and oversaturated)
good 4g speeds and proper dual sim working with disabling sim onky on oxygen os ( which is not a really good os )
overheating issues onky resolved with custom kernel
other than those , its fairly good in other aspects at this price point
TarushS said:
battery life not good
crappy video recording ( even with sultans hal , its noisy and oversaturated)
good 4g speeds and proper dual sim working with disabling sim onky on oxygen os ( which is not a really good os )
overheating issues onky resolved with custom kernel
other than those , its fairly good in other aspects at this price point
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Thanks for answering
I was about to post a question like what he did .
But may I ask u about the battery ??
What do you mean by not good, I mean like 3hrs of on screen is bad for you but maybe they are good for me.
So would you please give numbers, like how much does it last and how much does it take to recharge.
Thanks for answering
TarushS said:
battery life not good
crappy video recording ( even with sultans hal , its noisy and oversaturated)
good 4g speeds and proper dual sim working with disabling sim onky on oxygen os ( which is not a really good os )
overheating issues onky resolved with custom kernel
other than those , its fairly good in other aspects at this price point
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Overheating issues resolved ? I don't think so, not for me
As the screen is amoled so i use black theme to reduce the battery drain, i usually get around 4hrs+ battery with wifi,data, videos and some game play. Oxygen OS is not good i use Turbo ROM for the customization and stability. The phone is slippery at hand i would recommend using a sticker if you are not a phone case person.
The way I see it, this depends on the price you will pay to get it. At 200$ its still a deal, yes it has some little drawbacks - but for me they are not a major concern, at least for my use of the phone. When I bought it back in January I paid 265$ for it. I wouldn't pay that much now, since for less then 200$ more you can get the mighty OP3. But 200$ seem the reasonable price for it now. Since it come with a plastic screen protector and a light plastic case too, you might even not want to spend more on other accessories.
I'm looking to buy a new phone for myself upgrading from a Galaxy S6 (32 GB) and I've lately found myself running out of space. I can get the OnePlus 5 or Galaxy S7 Edge in my current budget. I prefer stock android but I also don''t have a hatred towards touchwiz as a lot of people do. I also want a decent camera with which I can take pictures of myself/friends. Waterproofing isn't really that big a deal for me personally. On the contrary, battery life is a big deal. I don't mind having to recharge my phone during the day but I also don't want my phone dying out on me if I decide to stay in uni for a couple more hours than I normally do. For anyone who has used/owned/has an idea about both phones, which one do you think would be the better phone for me? Oh and I should mention, the Oneplus 5 is the 128 GB model whilst the Galaxy S7 edge is the 32 GB model (I will be using a micro sd card with it)
Thanks
If you're coming from the S6, the S7 will be a noticeable downgrade. The CPU is pretty underpowered compared to the exynos in the S6. I tried the S7 when I'm normally on the Note5 and I couldn't stand it. I'd get a oneplus. I was thinking about it (which is why I'm in this page) but I can't ditch my Samsung.
I came from the s8 with no regrets, the user experience, fluidness/smootheness is amazing. No hiccups or anything.
I'd go with the oneplus 5 in your case.
If you don't mind a medeocre camera....go for the 5.
NotAbdShahid said:
I'm looking to buy a new phone for myself upgrading from a Galaxy S6 (32 GB) and I've lately found myself running out of space. I can get the OnePlus 5 or Galaxy S7 Edge in my current budget. I prefer stock android but I also don''t have a hatred towards touchwiz as a lot of people do. I also want a decent camera with which I can take pictures of myself/friends. Waterproofing isn't really that big a deal for me personally. On the contrary, battery life is a big deal. I don't mind having to recharge my phone during the day but I also don't want my phone dying out on me if I decide to stay in uni for a couple more hours than I normally do. For anyone who has used/owned/has an idea about both phones, which one do you think would be the better phone for me? Oh and I should mention, the Oneplus 5 is the 128 GB model whilst the Galaxy S7 edge is the 32 GB model (I will be using a micro sd card with it)
Thanks
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If you're looking for really a great camera, then go for s7 edge which can click amazing pictures even in low light. It also has a pretty good battery life as I'm using the exynos version.
I also had a one plus 5 as my daily driver, it's the best in terms of performance and battery life.
But, honestly s7 edge's camera is one of the best camera available on smartphone compared to the one on OnePlus 5.
I will switch to the OP5 from my S7 Edge. That is the last straw of waiting and waiting for updates!
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I will switch to the OP5 from my S7 Edge. That is the last straw of waiting and waiting for updates!
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RIP. If you care about performance and responsiveness, the S7 is not the way to go.
EDIT: *unless you get the international version with the octa-core exynos.
EDIT2: I'm smart. You said from the S7 to the OP5. My bad, LOL.
I've had both - came from Int'l S7E to OP5. S7E was an awesome phone - easily one of the best I've ever had. Battery, Camera, Screen and Performance (mostly) were awesome. I would still pick an S7E over an S8 because of the fingerprint placement and the larger battery. Anyway, what drew me to the OP5 were the SD835, the dual camera and the 8/128GB configuration. I've had 128GB SD cards die on me 3-4x in the S7E (I don't really keep anything I can't replace on them, but it's still a pain to resync stuff) so the integrated storage is really nice to have.
The camera is definitely a downgrade in terms of quality, especially low light. I feel the OP5 camera has gotten better but still isn't a match for the S7E. I do enjoy the "2x" zoom (really 1.6) and the portrait mode on occasion. Although the OP5 battery is a bit smaller than the S7E (which is really, really an incredible battery), I've had no real issues getting through even my longest days with the OP5. Dash charging is just silly with the OP5, it's crazy fast but you have to buy at least one extra dash charger that's $$.
I don't really miss the lack of wirelessly charging...I really only charge 1x a day at night.
Lack of waterproofing - well, the reality is the OP5 does have some level of waterproofing, just not IP67/68. It's gotten wet from rain, no issues.
S7E has awesome in-hand feel because of the curve edges (narrower), but the OP5 is also excellent and the screen has less distortion without the curved edges. Quality of the AMOLED screens, S7e has a definitive advantage.
OP5 software is really MUCH smoother than S7E and feels much more stock. I always had a "Nougat" type theme running on my S7E so really, Grace UX or whatever it's called now wasn't much of an issue on S7E the way it was previously with earlier Sammy devices.
MicroUSB is becoming legacy, I now do prefer USB-C as my Macbook Pro is also USB-C so can get away with the same charger if I want to be lazy and not bring along a dash charger on trips.
I've never felt a need to go back to the S7E since I got the OP5, but I'd happily use either phone. In day to day use, I prefer the OP5 software but I miss the S7E camera when I'm taking pics for special occasions (e.g. parties) as opposed to casual stuff.
If say the only upside to the s7 good it is way cheaper than the op5. Especially if you are getting the 128gb version
Nice comment. Hopefully I won't to regret my decision to switch to OP5 (8/128).
I own a galaxy s5 I love all the features it haves, but unfortunately it's time to upgrade it.
Anyway after some researching I think only the v20 meets my requirements
Ir blaster/3.5 jack/removable battery/micro sd card.
But I'm not sure if I should buy it cause the bootloop problem, some people claims it doesn't have the problem while other claims it does and their phone suffered from this very fate.
Will appreciate any advice you can give me, the model I plan to buy is the h990 single sim.
y23 said:
I own a galaxy s5 I love all the features it haves, but unfortunately it's time to upgrade it.
Anyway after some researching I think only the v20 meets my requirements
Ir blaster/3.5 jack/removable battery/micro sd card.
But I'm not sure if I should buy it cause the bootloop problem, some people claims it doesn't have the problem while other claims it does and their phone suffered from this very fate.
Will appreciate any advice you can give me, the model I plan to buy is the h990 single sim.
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There's no widespread reports of bootloop issues like the g5. However some people have had issues, yes,but that's the case with any phone you buy. Common issues reported are:bad cell reception, screen retention, bad mics, usb c port failures to name a few. Ymmv.
Sent from my LG-H910 using XDA Labs
Never had a bootloop with mine since I got it last November. But I bought it based on the fact it was supposed to be one of the best phones to record live music videos and it really sucks on that side, making me thinks the micros might be defective. Other than this, I love the phone. I get around 4 hours of SOT and I love to have a 2nd battery ready to swap anytime in case of need.
y23 said:
I own a galaxy s5 I love all the features it haves, but unfortunately it's time to upgrade it.
Anyway after some researching I think only the v20 meets my requirements
Ir blaster/3.5 jack/removable battery/micro sd card.
But I'm not sure if I should buy it cause the bootloop problem, some people claims it doesn't have the problem while other claims it does and their phone suffered from this very fate.
Will appreciate any advice you can give me, the model I plan to buy is the h990 single sim.
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No issues with bootloop, but I'd highly suggest you go for LG V30 instead. This phone has Screen retention issue, bad GPS performance (which can be catered for if you enable Cellular and Wifi based accuracy improvement), Type-C port bugs (which are solved with a simple reboot), having LCD screens, it does drain battery significantly faster than the OLED phones from other brands. Also camera has piss-poor HDR.
On the contrary V30 is a great phone to have if u have the budget for it.
dark_prince said:
No issues with bootloop, but I'd highly suggest you go for LG V30 instead. This phone has Screen retention issue, bad GPS performance (which can be catered for if you enable Cellular and Wifi based accuracy improvement), Type-C port bugs (which are solved with a simple reboot), having LCD screens, it does drain battery significantly faster than the OLED phones from other brands. Also camera has piss-poor HDR.
On the contrary V30 is a great phone to have if u have the budget for it.
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The v30 cost like double of the v20 (for me), and doesn't have removable battery or Ir Blsater, I can go without the first but IR blaster is a must.
(and no for Chinese phones). so I'm pretty much left with staying with my galaxy s5 (g901f) or upgrade to v20 which is sucks I prefer smaller phone and more reliable.
Hello. I have the G900V on Verizon and for the past couple days have been having trouble getting back to a stable rom. I've had signal drops at random especially when making calls and phone random reboots. I'm on lineage OS 14.1 / 18.1.
At times reverts to 3G and have to restart phone
Stock camera says "Media server died" and crashes
At times screen glitches out and can see artifacts
Phone gets super hot at times (Batteries are brand new)
Things i've tried numerous times over....
1. To restore backups on TWRP but sometimes getting error messages Error 255 and Signal 9
2. Restoring roms from stock but signal still drops (even when roms seems fine stock rom nothing restored)
3. Restored firmware thru odin
4. Flashed different version of TWRP
5. cleared out apps cache data for camera but still dies
6. Restored EFS (radios)
7. Re-installing roms from scratch with gapps and magisk
Currently again restoring Lineage 14.1 RR again now. Any ideas on what's wrong with my phone?
UPDATE: October 3rd I flashed a stock rom Android 5.0 LL. Went to use camera and it failed and my signal went out so sadly it's hardware failure for sure! Phone also keeps boot looping at random and real hot. I had this phone for 7 years guess it's time for a change.
Any thoughts on the S20 / S20 Ultra as an upgrade? Stay with Verizon or go to T-mobile? I read it can be rooted and have a paid service to have bootloader unlocked.
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Try a known good stock rom to rule out a mobo failure.
blackhawk said:
Try a known good stock rom to rule out a mobo failure.
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So I flashed back to stock 5.0 and sure enough went to open camera and it failed and my signal dropped and went out. It's confirmed hardware failure. I finally got back to Lineage 14.1 after like a dozen stuck boot loops it finally booted into the rom.
I'm thinking of upgrading to the S20 / S20 Ultra on either Verizon or T-Mobile. S21 has no expandable storage. I read the bootloader can be unlocked for a service fee and phone can be rooted. I run Mac so I do not have windows so hopefully I can do this!
What do you suggest for a new device? This is a very sad day for me! But it's time for new and better things!
Droid9684 said:
So I flashed back to stock 5.0 and sure enough went to open camera and it failed and my signal dropped and went out. It's confirmed hardware failure. I finally got back to Lineage 14.1 after like a dozen stuck boot loops it finally booted into the rom.
I'm thinking of upgrading to the S20 / S20 Ultra on either Verizon or T-Mobile. S21 has no expandable storage. I read the bootloader can be unlocked for a service fee and phone can be rooted. I run Mac so I do not have windows so hopefully I can do this!
What do you suggest for a new device? This is a very sad day for me! But it's time for new and better things!
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Sorry to hear that.
Avoid Android 11 at all costs. It's a dead rotting horse... a fubar.
I picked up a new unlocked Note 10+ 256gb, 12gb US Snapdragon variant running on Q for $800 a week ago. Overall Q has a few rude surprises but is far less restrictive than R.
If you like Notes, you'll love the 10+. I have two now. The first one is 2 year old and still looks and runs like new. One replacement battery in this heavily used device. Current stock OS load is 16 months old, still fast and stable with minimum maintenance.
This variant is not easy to root if that's your intention. Package Disabler though will let you clean it up nicely.
The 60hz display is still one of the best out there (excellent color, contrast, brightnessl, and even with older hardware it's downright snappy and fun to use. Even in a case because it's so thin it doesn't seem that big.
Get a Zizo Bolt case, put a .5-1tb V30 SD card in it and it's good to go
After the 10+ it's slim pickings from Samsung in my opinion... which is why I now have two
blackhawk said:
Sorry to hear that.
Avoid Android 11 at all costs. It's a dead rotting horse... a fubar.
I picked up a new unlocked Note 10+ 256gb, 12gb US Snapdragon variant running on Q for $800 a week ago. Overall Q has a few rude surprises but is far less restrictive than R.
If you like Notes, you'll love the 10+. I have two now. The first one is 2 year old and still looks and runs like new. One replacement battery in this heavily used device. Current stock OS load is 16 months old, still fast and stable with minimum maintenance.
This variant is not easy to root if that's your intention. Package Disabler though will let you clean it up nicely.
The 60hz display is still one of the best out there (excellent color, contrast, brightnessl, and even with older hardware it's downright snappy and fun to use. Even in a case because it's so thin it doesn't seem that big.
Get a Zizo Bolt case, put a .5-1tb V30 SD card in it and it's good to go
After the 10+ it's slim pickings from Samsung in my opinion... which is why I now have two
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Yeah I'd rather have the S20+ because its newer and it has the expandable sd card. The S10 / Note 10 is too old. This morning my phone finally got stuck in permeant boot loop and wont boot into any roms period after it was pretty much fine for about a week. Thanks for getting back to me I appreciate it.
Plus the S10 Note 10 doesnt have 5G. The S20 was the first and the S20 plus has 5G mw vs the slower 5G speed on the regular S20. If I have to upgrade I might as well get a 5G device this time. My last 2/3 Androids were 4G since 2012.
The 10+ is an exceptional phone. It's color rendering exceeds the N20U and new iPhone.
It depends entirely what you want to use it for though. The Snapdragon variant is a pain to root and I wouldn't recommended rooting it.
As a stock workhorse, watching vids and browsing it rocks. It's build and display qualities are exceptional which weighed heavily on my decision. My refusal to adapt R and no SD card sealed all the new junk's fate.
Lol, a faster processor and laser AF been nice but not at the cost of downgrading usability.
I will continue herding user friendly dinosaurs...
blackhawk said:
The 10+ is an exceptional phone. It's color rendering exceeds the N20U and new iPhone.
It depends entirely what you want to use it for though. The Snapdragon variant is a pain to root and I wouldn't recommended rooting it.
As a stock workhorse, watching vids and browsing it rocks. It's build and display qualities are exceptional which weighed heavily on my decision. My refusal to adapt R and no SD card sealed all the new junk's fate.
Lol, a faster processor and laser AF been nice but not at the cost of downgrading usability.
I will continue herding user friendly dinosaurs...
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I'm being told as long as the S20 has a bit 1 bootloader it can be unlocked and rooted. I'm looking on Swappa right now.
I don't like the fact years ago with the new phones they sealed the batteries making them non removable and some of the phones you cant use an external sd card. I'm not so much about the screen specs as I just want a phone that has 5G that can be rooted. I do like all the new phones come standard with OIS on the cameras, as a photographer with an old Nikon that will come in handy. I didn't like the fact the S5 pictures would come out shaky at times, the Note 4 had OIS tho. If they had made the S10 / Note 10 5G I would consider it! But I've been on 4G for nearly 10 years now and if I'm going to have to spend a bunch of money I might as well invest in newer technology.
Droid9684 said:
I'm being told as long as the S20 has a bit 1 bootloader it can be unlocked and rooted. I'm looking on Swappa right now.
I don't like the fact years ago with the new phones they sealed the batteries making them non removable and some of the phones you cant use an external sd card. I'm not so much about the screen specs as I just want a phone that has 5G that can be rooted. I do like all the new phones come standard with OIS on the cameras, as a photographer with an old Nikon that will come in handy. I didn't like the fact the S5 pictures would come out shaky at times, the Note 4 had OIS tho. If they had made the S10 / Note 10 5G I would consider it! But I've been on 4G for nearly 10 years now and if I'm going to have to spend a bunch of money I might as well invest in newer technology.
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I'm not sold on 5G. Many times it's net bandwidth increase is 20%. How badly it impacts battery life especially with less than optimum reception is a point of contention.
5G has shorter range and worse reach around objects than 4G. 4G should be around for another 10 years. Since I can browse and stream vids with no major issues I put 5G on the back burner. Lol, I still just adorn my 10+... so there's that. The square display, its 7mm thickness, it's stability, speed, all around usability and the spen really make it a killer phone even today.
I wouldn't recommend the 5G 10+ variant as it reportedly impacts power usage which is typical of the 1st generation of 5G. The Exynos chipset is a different animal from the Snapdragon. It may also have a different graphene heat sink on some of those phones. All Snapdragons variants to the best of my knowledge have the vapor cooled variant which is superior.
Be very careful buying any Samsung phone. A lot of misleading even outright fraud going on now.
Demand nothing less than full specs. Cross check device P/N and specs, always.
Many have reflashed roms and are the Exynos rather than the Snapdragon variants but the seller tries to hide that fact.
Best to talk to the seller by phone.
Buying a new older phone can be a better deal in spite of the higher price. The above issues are one of the reasons I rejected a N20U. A lot of the 8gb ram variants out there too and sellers trying to hide it, wtf? You want 12gb of ram if you can get it... it runs like a champ.
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I'm not sold on 5G. Many times it's net bandwidth increase is 20%. How badly it impacts battery life especially with less than optimum reception is a point of contention.
5G has shorter range and worse reach around objects than 4G. 4G should be around for another 10 years. Since I can browse and stream vids with no major issues I put 5G on the back burner. Lol, I still just adorn my 10+... so there's that. The square display, its 7mm thickness, it's stability, speed, all around usability and the spen really make it a killer phone even today.
I wouldn't recommend the 5G 10+ variant as it reportedly impacts power usage which is typical of the 1st generation of 5G. The Exynos chipset is a different animal from the Snapdragon. It may also have a different graphene heat sink on some of those phones. All Snapdragons variants to the best of my knowledge have the vapor cooled variant which is superior.
Be very careful buying any Samsung phone. A lot of misleading even outright fraud going on now.
Demand nothing less than full specs. Cross check device P/N and specs, always.
Many have reflashed roms and are the Exynos rather than the Snapdragon variants but the seller tries to hide that fact.
Best to talk to the seller by phone.
Buying a new older phone can be a better deal in spite of the higher price. The above issues are one of the reasons I rejected a N20U. A lot of the 8gb ram variants out there too and sellers trying to hide it, wtf? You want 12gb of ram if you can get it... it runs like a champ.
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Well I know my next phone won't be thru my provider or ebay that is for sure. I am putting trust into Swappa. I think I can email the seller but not able to call them. According to google the S20+ SM-G986U is a US variant with the snapdragon chip. They are unlocked meaning I can use them on any carrier. Swappa has a 30 day return policy and they verify devices. 5G is an investment and all devices are backward compatible. I know 5G has shorter reach but with it comes more speed. I was not aware of all the fraud going on with listings.
I had considered getting another Galaxy S5 or maybe a Note 4 but they are just too old. And knowing this one is in hardware failure isn't making me happy. I'm ok with 4G LTE but I just figure if i'm going to spend lots money might as well get something newer.
This is who I used. They answer their phone.
Shipped 2 day FedEx free, no screwing around.
All was as speced except OS was Q not Pie; check manufactured date to avoid this from happening. I'm not blaming the vendor for this. They buy lots of new unsold phones and resell them.
I have a high confidence level with this vendor.
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This is who I used. They answer their phone.
Shipped 2 day FedEx free, no screwing around.
All was as speced except OS was Q not Pie; check manufactured date to avoid this from happening. I'm not blaming the vendor for this. They buy lots of new unsold phones and resell them.
I have a high confidence level with this vendor.
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I had a look on their site and They are kind of pricey but are these phones under warranty? They are brand new? I know the Ultra had camera problems vs the other 2 S20's. Oh lots people are trying to convert me to Apple iPhone still . I do have a 2012 classic Macbook haha! I've compared both phones!
@TheMadScientist said I have to ask them what the firmware number is in order to be able to unlock bootloader thru SamPWND. https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ock-info-u-u1-w.4201689/page-13#post-85751713
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I had a look on their site and They are kind of pricey but are these phones under warranty? They are brand new? I know the Ultra had camera problems vs the other 2 S20's. Oh lots people are trying to convert me to Apple iPhone still . I do have a 2012 classic Macbook haha! I've compared both phones!
@TheMadScientist said I have to ask them what the firmware number is in order to be able to unlock bootloader thru SamPWND. https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/...ock-info-u-u1-w.4201689/page-13#post-85751713
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The warranty question is one I have as well but not too concerned. The 10+ Snapdragon's have a solid hardware track record. Just keep it in a good case...
I will ask next time I talk with them about the warranty.
If they're list as new; they are. Factory sealed. I scruntinized and tested mine hard, it is perfect. All factory plastic guards are present and no finger prints or micro scratches anywhere. They battery was quite low as expected when unboxed. Zero hours showing.
Display is perfect, tested with ScreenTest. It's snappy fast and getting good battery life so far.
Checked the ram usage, sensors, all good with nominal readings.
Connected straight up to phone/internet when I put my sim and SD cards in. Access the memory card data with no issues. Even Poweramp recognized the library on the data card instantly after I imported it's save settings.
Apple? Hell no. The color rendering tests for the 10+ exceed the newest Apple flagship phone in some respects. Although it has no high refresh rates it's color rendering make it still one of the best and stylish displays out there. I love the borderless design and square corners. Lol, the fact that I own 2 shows you I'm so jaded
As for your latter question I don't know. I leave the boot loader alone. It's simply not worth it to me to risk trashing these phones as they run very well unrooted. This variant is hard to root.
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The warranty question is one I have as well but not too concerned. The 10+ Snapdragon's have a solid hardware track record. Just keep it in a good case...
I will ask next time I talk with them about the warranty.
If they're list as new; they are. Factory sealed. I scruntinized and tested mine hard, it is perfect. All factory plastic guards are present and no finger prints or micro scratches anywhere. They battery was quite low as expected when unboxed. Zero hours showing.
Display is perfect, tested with ScreenTest. It's snappy fast and getting good battery life so far.
Checked the ram usage, sensors, all good with nominal readings.
Connected straight up to phone/internet when I put my sim and SD cards in. Access the memory card data with no issues. Even Poweramp recognized the library on the data card instantly after I imported it's save settings.
Apple? Hell no. The color rendering tests for the 10+ exceed the newest Apple flagship phone in some respects. Although it has no high refresh rates it's color rendering make it still one of the best and stylish displays out there. I love the borderless design and square corners. Lol, the fact that I own 2 shows you I'm so jaded
As for your latter question I don't know. I leave the boot loader alone. It's simply not worth it to me to risk trashing these phones as they run very well unrooted. This variant is hard to root.
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Meant to respond the other day. Your not BL unlocked and rooted? So today The seller you suggested finally got back to me about the firmware. They don't have that info so I guess i'll have to go with Swappa and get a mint like new device. I think Samsunghas a brighter display more nitz than iPhone from what I read. I know my S5 was hard to see during daylight tho. Is your phone easy on the pocket can it fit?
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Meant to respond the other day. Your not BL unlocked and rooted? So today The seller you suggested finally got back to me about the firmware. They don't have that info so I guess i'll have to go with Swappa and get a mint like new device. I think Samsunghas a brighter display more nitz than iPhone from what I read. I know my S5 was hard to see during daylight tho. Is your phone easy on the pocket can it fit?
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The N10+ Snapdragon variant is notoriously hard to unlock the BL and root. Simply not worth the risk for me as it can run very well stock. My oldest one has been in service 2 years unrooted and runs great.
The Exynos variant are easy to root but have their own hardware issues. All Snapdragon variants use the preferred vapor phase/copper heatpipe, some of the Exynos variant are randomingly using the inferior graphene heatpipe.
If the actual Exynos chipset its self is inferior is another debate. I can't really comment on that with any authority or knowledge as I haven't researched it much. It may simply not have as good of an instruction set as the Snapdragon or deeper architecture differences. Both are 7 um chips.
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The N10+ Snapdragon variant is notoriously hard to unlock the BL and root. Simply not worth the risk for me as it can run very well stock. My oldest one has been in service 2 years unrooted and runs great.
The Exynos variant are easy to root but have their own hardware issues. All Snapdragon variants use the preferred vapor phase/copper heatpipe, some of the Exynos variant are randomingly using the inferior graphene heatpipe.
If the actual Exynos chipset its self is inferior is another debate. I can't really comment on that with any authority or knowledge as I haven't researched it much. It may simply not have as good of an instruction set as the Snapdragon or deeper architecture differences. Both are 7 um chips.
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I'm guessing you have the Exynos and not the Snapdragon variant? I know Snapdragons are harder to unlock and root. I read something about the upcoming S22 snapdragon having a different cooling method than the current you mentioned used. I can't wait months for a new phone tho. I do not trust Ebay as a seller and unfortnantley the one you suggested is of no help regarding the firmware.
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I'm guessing you have the Exynos and not the Snapdragon variant? I know Snapdragons are harder to unlock and root. I read something about the upcoming S22 snapdragon having a different cooling method than the current you mentioned used. I can't wait months for a new phone tho. I do not trust Ebay as a seller and unfortnantley the one you suggested is of no help regarding the firmware.
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Both are running with Snapdragon, deliberately.
To me a having fast, stable platform that fun to use and fulfills its mission 100% is far more important than having the newest, fastest device.
Mind you, I wuv speed and hate to wait.
I hate endless troubleshooting even more...
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Both are running with Snapdragon, deliberately.
To me a having fast, stable platform that fun to use and fulfills its mission 100% is far more important than having the newest, fastest device.
Mind you, I wuv speed and hate to wait.
I hate endless troubleshooting even more...
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Right and that is what I want too in a device. I'm tired of flashing ROMS after having my S5. It was non stop this past week or so and it would just bootloop and freeze and drop calls no matter what ended up being bad logic motherboard (was having issues sporadically past couple months). I just want to be rooted stock for now and be able to make recieve calls, texts without issue and restore things to my phone. Troubleshootng can be more trouble than it's worth hense all that troubles with my S5 towards the EOL (End of life).
What does wuv speed mean?
I'm having a serious problem with sellers not being able to tell me the firmware build number for S20+ 986U. This is becoming such a hassle! I'm looking at brand new sealed in box on Ebay and used mint on Swappa. The seller from Fusion Electronixs says they cant just order a phone and turn it on to see build number. I did mention the box and to check that. Should I just take my chances and buy one off Ebay or Swappa without knowing the build number?
I know once I got a temp phone years ago on Ebay and it was not as described was a different S5.