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Samsung Pay Launch Pushed to September
Samsung has indicated its mobile payment service will not launch over the summer months as planned. Instead, Samsung Pay will get off the ground in the U.S. and Korea in September. The company confirmed the delay in a call Wednesday with investors. Samsung Pay was announced in March and will initially be available to the Galaxy S6 and S6 Edge smartphones. It supports both NFC and magnetic payment terminals, which means it should be more widely available than either Apple Pay or Android Pay, which are limited to NFC terminals. Samsung didn't provide a reason for the delay. The company said Samsung Pay will expand to Europe, China, Australia, and South America, as well as other high-end Samsung devices, later in the year. Apple Pay has been available since October 2014 and Android Pay is expected to launch with Android M in September or October.
source: http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=15906
I have a feeling that by the time Samsung Pay is widely used, we will be using a new device by then.
It's always like that, samsung announced something with the galaxy line on the presentation and that thing it only be available by the end of the year. Every time is like that ? I don't even know when it's going to be available on europe
Most of us have already rooted our phones. No Samsung Pay for us.
Anyway, it is no biggie. How difficult is it to take out a credit card and make a payment?
MCube74 said:
I have a feeling that by the time Samsung Pay is widely used, we will be using a new device by then.
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Samsung Galaxy S6 Plus rumours look very promising. :silly:
Galaxy S6 Plus may have the Snapdragon 808 cpu. Why call it a plus when it uses a slower CPU than the current Galaxy S6 /S6 Edge?
MCube74 said:
Galaxy S6 Plus may have the Snapdragon 808 cpu. Why call it a plus when it uses a slower CPU than the current Galaxy S6 /S6 Edge?
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Plus don't necessarily mean fast. Just bigger (size)
MCube74 said:
Most of us have already rooted our phones. No Samsung Pay for us.
Anyway, it is no biggie. How difficult is it to take out a credit card and make a payment?
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why carry credit card when you dont have to?
my phone is rooted, if samsung pay only works on non-rooted phone, i going to flash stock rom.
netnerd said:
why carry credit card when you dont have to?
my phone is rooted, if samsung pay only works on non-rooted phone, i going to flash stock rom.
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Once Knox is tripped, Samsung pay is gone from your phone.
I never leave home without my wallet so my credit card is always with me. You will never know when you will need it.
Samsung Pay will probably not be available everywhere.
MCube74 said:
Once Knox is tripped, Samsung pay is gone from your phone.
I never leave home without my wallet so my credit card is always with me. You will never know when you will need it.
Samsung Pay will probably not be available everywhere.
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please show us where Samsung itself has actually stated that Samsung pay wont work if Knox is tripped; an ACTUAL statement from Samsung, not a tweet or a Facebook post please..
wase4711 said:
please show us where Samsung itself has actually stated that Samsung pay wont work if Knox is tripped; an ACTUAL statement from Samsung, not a tweet or a Facebook post please..
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Dude it's a guess, but it's an educated one. Go read what secures SamPay, and you'll see that it uses SamKnox as a security measure. Take a wild guess what would happen when the security protocol gets breached.
dude, the only reason I posted that is because for some reason 90% of people on xda "Assume" that tripping Knox will make samsung pay un workable, even though Samsung has never said that is the case; plus, if it turns out to be a popular form of payment, I am certain someone will come up with a way to use it, even with root/knox disabled.
for me, I could care less about it, since its just as easy, and more SECURE to just use your credit card, instead of having all that personal financial info on your cell phone, but, until Samsung actually releases it, which, from what I have read recently, has been pushed out to AFTER September, saying for certain that tripping Knox renders it un workable just cant be taken as an absolute truth..
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dude, the only reason I posted that is because for some reason 90% of people on xda "Assume" that tripping Knox will make samsung pay un workable, even though Samsung has never said that is the case; plus, if it turns out to be a popular form of payment, I am certain someone will come up with a way to use it, even with root/knox disabled.
for me, I could care less about it, since its just as easy, and more SECURE to just use your credit card, instead of having all that personal financial info on your cell phone, but, until Samsung actually releases it, which, from what I have read recently, has been pushed out to AFTER September, saying for certain that tripping Knox renders it un workable just cant be taken as an absolute truth..
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Maybe it's because 90% of us are satisfied with a tweet from Samsung, an article from Sammobile (with Samsung insiders, also quoted by the tweet) and a post from Chainfire (who knows Touchwiz better than any non-Samsung software engineer) when they all say Samsung Pay won't work when Knox is tripped. We aren't being gullible as you have led on.
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dude, the only reason I posted that is because for some reason 90% of people on xda "Assume" that tripping Knox will make samsung pay un workable, even though Samsung has never said that is the case; plus, if it turns out to be a popular form of payment, I am certain someone will come up with a way to use it, even with root/knox disabled.
for me, I could care less about it, since its just as easy, and more SECURE to just use your credit card, instead of having all that personal financial info on your cell phone, but, until Samsung actually releases it, which, from what I have read recently, has been pushed out to AFTER September, saying for certain that tripping Knox renders it un workable just cant be taken as an absolute truth..
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Wow.. If you don't even care why bother commenting, especially if it's gonna spark a argument.
I was just wondering : if Samsung pay doesn't work, we can still use android pay? It'll be a wider option and will work on a lot of device? Just guessing...
doumi215 said:
I was just wondering : if Samsung pay doesn't work, we can still use android pay? It'll be a wider option and will work on a lot of device? Just guessing...
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I would assume so. Android Pay checks for root, but there are workarounds for that.
So - S7s are shipping and Christmas for many of us Android users is almost here. I've rooted every Android I've ever had, but I really am considering leaving my S7 Edge stock to use Samsung Pay. I figured I'd put a poll out there and kick off any discussion the pros and cons of rooting. Thoughts?
I'll probably root eventually. I'd like to see how it performs out of the box first, but I bank with a local credit union that will likely never get Samsung Pay (They only got Apple pay last year), so that's not an issue for me.
I got the Note 5 a month and a half ago when we moved to T-Mobile, and came from the Nexus 6. The Note 5 is the first phone I had not rooted in the first week. There was an app to freeze the bloat I did not without rooting and I love my Android Pay. Only thing I miss from rooting my phone now is adblock. However I can live with the ads to keep the Android Pay functions.
nvm
I rooted and loaded custom ROM on all my phones except the Note Edge. the support wasn't there for it and AT&T really locked things down. but honestly, I didn't really miss much... I don't think I'll be doing any of that. I also want to try samsung pay and kinda wish my Gear S had the NFC to make that even easier. Might get S2 Classic 4G just for that honestly.
Adguard my friend Google it. I love Samsung pay and with the s7/e performing like they do I certainly don't need root. Maybe someday if CM comes along I'll consider it but for now Adguard is enough for me.
So the question still there... Samsung pay going to work on rooted device or not. Anyone tried?
Samsung Pay is a banking app and here in the UK my banking app (Lloyds bank) doesn't work with my rooted Galaxy S5.
Is not really an option always use an app to freeze the bloat (have used something like that call "Hide my Root") as was saying kxhaz
There should be alternative for that...
i got mine today and Samsung pay is not installed. i went to the google play store and it said samsung pay was not compatible with my phone? everything is stock...no root or other hacks.
Thanks.
Try Galaxy Apps
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I agree I'm missing it too On my samsung galaxy s7 edge. I went to galaxy apps and it looked like it downloaded but I can't find it anywhere. I must be missing something or its hidden in a folder. I'll keep looking!
Trying to remember how I activated it on my wife's S6. I think you have to go into settings > tap & pay.
I just read that Verizon forced Samsung to remove Samsung Pay from VZW S7 and Edge. You can also side load it from APKmirror.com also.
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Found this when searching for Samsung Pay in Google Play Store comments
Sheena Caballero March 6, 2016
Won't download I am trying to download/install this on my s7 edge and it has been at 43% downloaded for the past 3 hours?????
Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd. March 7, 2016
We are sorry for the inconvenience. Galaxy S7 is scheduled to be released on March 11th, and Samsung Pay service for S7 will be enabled once it is officially released.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...alaxy-s7-and-s7-edge-but-you-can-sideload-it/
One post said that Verizon has also removed any mention of Samsung Pay from their S7 manual.
Wow you are completely correct! Verizon just pulled that lowball move and demanded that Samsung remove it. I'm sideloading it as we speak.
Has anyone had any trouble getting past the finger print registration on samsung pay?
emmawilliam834 said:
Has anyone had any trouble getting past the finger print registration on samsung pay?
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Had this issue on the s6, remove your fingerprints and clear cache in the fingerprint app then set it up with a pin. Once you finish the install turn on fingerprints
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I had to download the apk, then install. Once I installed I was able to register my card fine.
dandiaz21 said:
Found this when searching for Samsung Pay in Google Play Store comments
Sheena Caballero March 6, 2016
Won't download I am trying to download/install this on my s7 edge and it has been at 43% downloaded for the past 3 hours?????
Samsung Electronics Co., Ltd. March 7, 2016
We are sorry for the inconvenience. Galaxy S7 is scheduled to be released on March 11th, and Samsung Pay service for S7 will be enabled once it is officially released.
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Seems you may be correct. (Update)
"We've spoken with Samsung, and they have clarified that while Samsung Pay currently cannot be installed via the Play Store or Galaxy Apps on the Verizon model, it will be available to Verizon Galaxy S7s and S7 edges via those channels starting on March 11th, the official launch date for the phones. Samsung Pay is not pre-loaded on Verizon models, unlike some other US carriers, and Verizon does not advertise the app - and even went so far as to strip it from the user manuals of its versions of the S7 and S7 edge - but sideloading will not be necessary by the time we reach the retail launch date for the devices."
http://www.androidpolice.com/2016/0...axy-s7-and-s7-edge-but-you-can-sideload-it/#2
Samsung pay is live on the play store.
It works on mine!
Spoke with a Samsung rep yesterday about this. I was looking into the phone and he said that the VZW version just won't have it. He said that only Android pay would work.
jdubya42 said:
Spoke with a Samsung rep yesterday about this. I was looking into the phone and he said that the VZW version just won't have it. He said that only Android pay would work.
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another good reason to not ever call customer service! haha
Got the S7 today. Just downloaded Samsung Pay from the Playstore, installed and registered a card without a problem.
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I don't have any cards that work with Samsung pay. I got all excited to get my free charger and try out the service and nothing. At least android pay works
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another good reason to not ever call customer service! haha
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Yep haha. I just happened to be a in Best Buy store because my friend works there and I was able to hold the phone without the security tether. Their resident "Samsung Expert" was the one who told me that. Only for me to see an article the next day about how VZW was allowing it on phones.
I was able to install Samsung Pay from the Play Store, but adding a card won't work on my Verizon S7.
I called Samsung Pay support and ran through settings, clear cache, uninstall, restart device, reinstall Pay and still won't connect to server to add any cards.
They have sent it up the chain at Samsung Support and said I should hear back within 48 hours.
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I was able to install Samsung Pay from the Play Store, but adding a card won't work on my Verizon S7.
I called Samsung Pay support and ran through settings, clear cache, uninstall, restart device, reinstall Pay and still won't connect to server to add any cards.
They have sent it up the chain at Samsung Support and said I should hear back within 48 hours.
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Works perfectly for my Verizon S7 and Bank of America debit
I feel like this may have been asked multiple times, but maybe the S7 is finally the year KNOX might be needed for something. What apps are dependent on having KNOX untripped?
I know Samsung Pay requires KNOX, but Samsung Pay can be argued to be practically useless in 2015, 2016, and probably 2017 in like 99% of the US. But what else is KNOX necessary for in terms of functions of the phone and apps?
I have a SM-G935F coming in the mail later today and I'm reading up on Root and trying to decide if I should keep it clean, or go ahead and root so I can make some tweaks. I'd mostly like to know what I'm really losing in exchange for getting root access.
What is it good for? Absolutely nothing.
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Samsung pay useless? What? I use it every single day... Do you even know how Samsung Pay works? It's not Apple pay which is actually 99% useless. Samsung pay can be used at magnetic strips, which means, its 99% USEFUL.
psufan5 said:
Samsung pay useless? What? I use it every single day... Do you even know how Samsung Pay works? It's not Apple pay which is actually 99% useless. Samsung pay can be used at magnetic strips, which means, its 99% USEFUL.
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It's 99% useful if you happen to use one of the banks that work with it. That list is far from comprehensive.
Works with multiple credit cards I have, so I would call it useful too...
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Samsung pay useless? What? I use it every single day... Do you even know how Samsung Pay works? It's not Apple pay which is actually 99% useless. Samsung pay can be used at magnetic strips, which means, its 99% USEFUL.
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It currently only works (officially) in the US and South Korea, so it's 99% useless for people outside these countries.
J.Biden said:
It currently only works (officially) in the US and South Korea, so it's 99% useless for people outside these countries.
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Did you read what the OP says? He says "Of the US". I wasn't referring to the rest of the world. And if your bank isn't adopting it yet, get a card that does. There are some amazing cash rewards cards that are supported - I personally use the Citi Double Cash.
Anyway, back on topic. Knox is really aimed at enhancing security for business, especially businesses with a BYOD policy. It lets you, or your company, wall off the business usage (e.g., Outlook Exchange) from the personal apps on your phone. For the typical personal phone user, it doesn't really do much, but that's not really who it's aimed at. Knox had gotten Samsung's phones authorized for DOD and Intel community uses that were previously limited to Blackberry, or sometimes Blackberry and iPhone.*
*DOD and the Intel community have a love-hate relationship with the iPhone. They like the fact that it's more secured, in general, than Android has been, but hate that iOS is closed source, so they can't examine the code for security holes.
psufan5 said:
Samsung pay useless? What? I use it every single day... Do you even know how Samsung Pay works? It's not Apple pay which is actually 99% useless. Samsung pay can be used at magnetic strips, which means, its 99% USEFUL.
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I know it uses older magnetic strips and not NFC, making it backwards compatible with older machines. But it still requires a data connection, can't be used when it's out of date, requiring an update (depending on where you are this is an issue, not to mention depending where you go, the terminal to pay might not be in front of you. You could be required to hand your phone off to someone else which I'm NOT okay with, and you gotta expect them to know what they're doing, which I'm not entirely sure they would seeing as Paying with your phone has existed for atleast 4 years, I live in Fort Worth Texas, and have seen only two in those 4 years in public attempt paying with their phones, one of which failed.
The way I see it, is if the technology isn't there yet to replace your actual wallet, then why wouldn't you just use your wallet? I've tried paying with my phone 3 times, and despite being successful at the attempts, I always thought I should have just used my card in the 1st place. If I'm not confident in my phone to replace my wallet, then I consider it useless.
Even if YOU consider it useless, tripping Knox, preventing your phone to use Samsung Pay could be an obstacle when you will try to sell your phone for the futur S8 Edge ...
Actually you don't need a data connection. I've used a phone without a sim card for Samsung pay. 5 purchases can be made before you have to connect to WiFi.
sorry, im just new to samsung. anyone can explain what does tripping knox means? I disabled this feature via package disabler pro since im not using samsung pay.
Thanks!
jhannbernas said:
sorry, im just new to samsung. anyone can explain what does tripping knox means? I disabled this feature via package disabler pro since im not using samsung pay.
Thanks!
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Rooting will change the value from 0x0 to 0x1 permanently.
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Got it. something that will void the warranty. Thanks!
Chocolina said:
I feel like this may have been asked multiple times, but maybe the S7 is finally the year KNOX might be needed for something. What apps are dependent on having KNOX untripped?
I know Samsung Pay requires KNOX, but Samsung Pay can be argued to be practically useless in 2015, 2016, and probably 2017 in like 99% of the US. But what else is KNOX necessary for in terms of functions of the phone and apps?
I have a SM-G935F coming in the mail later today and I'm reading up on Root and trying to decide if I should keep it clean, or go ahead and root so I can make some tweaks. I'd mostly like to know what I'm really losing in exchange for getting root access.
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Really: don't you have "Google"?
https://www.samsungknox.com/en
http://www.samsung.com/us/business/security/knox/
As a practitioner of the scientific method, I am ready to propound a theory after collecting two data points. My theory is that it has become impossible to add a credit card to Samsung Pay on Android 7.0 or earlier, and I'm looking (hoping!) to falsify that.
If anybody can do it, I'd be interested to hear what device you have, how recently you added a card and what version of Samsung Pay.
I called Samsung Pay today, and they said Samsung Pay was supported on Android 6 and higher. I don't buy it .
Also, is it against the rules for me to post this on other Samsung device forums as well?