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Nexus S, a Mac, and Bluetooth.

Why is it so hard for my Mac, or my NS, or visa versa, to swap files back and forth via bluetooth? Music files are fine, but .apk's or what have you do not transfer smoothy and it really agitates me, expecially when I'm charging. Any ideas on how to make any file type transferrable?
Z

No idea but bluetooth file transfer? Who's got that kind of time in 2011, amirite?

tatwamasi said:
No idea but bluetooth file transfer? Who's got that kind of time in 2011, amirite?
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nournot
transferring a tiny little .apk file thats 75.5kbs via bluetooth is much much faster than busting out the USB cord, enabling USB Mass Driver, waiting for it to pop up, and then dragging and dropping. I'm not transferring my whole music library over to my phone via bluetooth
Think dude, and post replies that'll help in the future. lolzpwnd

just use dropbox and astro - works like a charm for me

phi303 said:
just use dropbox and astro - works like a charm for me
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+1 (but I use Linda instead of Astro). I used to use bluetooth, but dropbox really is loads better. Give it a shot if you haven't before.
Having said that, I've consistently had issues BT transferring files with my Mac, even way back when I was on WM6. It just never plays nice :/

I could never transfer apks using bluetooth on mac...used to be able to transfer folders containing items before but not anymore. Now I just use it to transfer individual stuff.
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as all the people said already
just get your free 2GB Dropbox account and transfer files instantly over WiFi
it's so fast, so simple, and so easy
ages of messing around with the USB / BT is long gone, with all the free cloud services now in days
ztm.000 said:
nournot
transferring a tiny little .apk file thats 75.5kbs via bluetooth is much much faster than busting out the USB cord, enabling USB Mass Driver, waiting for it to pop up, and then dragging and dropping. I'm not transferring my whole music library over to my phone via bluetooth
Think dude, and post replies that'll help in the future. lolzpwnd
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+1 to the dropbox idea. I use it all the time to get stuff between computers, different phones, different partitions etc.

So, I like this dropbox idea, but have never tried it. What are your guys' experiences on it? And how do I acquire it? Is it a market app?
Z

yes available on the market
but you need to setup your account first on the website
there's a link in my siggy
Click here to get your 2 GB FREE!
cloud storage
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Another Dropbox fan here, although I also use sshdroid (ssh server) and transfer stuff with sftp using cyberduck on the mac when i need to.

Can't move apps to sd card

Card is mounted and everything, but still everything wants to be moved to 'media area'. How can I change this?
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iOSlulz said:
Card is mounted and everything, but still everything wants to be moved to 'media area'. How can I change this?
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Thats correct move it to "media area".

WiredPirate said:
Thats correct move it to "media area".
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but isnt that just the internal device memory? I want to put apps i can on my external SD card.

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but isnt that just the internal device memory? I want to put apps i can on my external SD card.
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Are you sure they are suppose to go to the ext?
On my apps2sd pro it prompts me to move to "media area".
My TiBU screen here show internal, sd, ext sd..? Can someone explain this for us?
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how big is your sd card...8GB?

Yes 8GB.
Edit* the external (for purposes of this thread) is 8gb

kk. I have been messing around with this and no dice...its starting to annoy me.
i want everything i can moved onto the ext card to cut down on fragmentation and so i can use a SD speed booster.

iOSlulz said:
kk. I have been messing around with this and no dice...its starting to annoy me.
i want everything i can moved onto the ext card to cut down on fragmentation and so i can use a SD speed booster.
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Afaik the sd speed booter increases the cache size, thats what mine does. Increasing cache size will load thumbnails of pics and vids faster, but not necessarily boost the performance of a game or something..
As far as fragmentation, ive never thought of that, im sure there is a defrag app. Ill look tomorrow im sleepy.

Media area is SD card... right?
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Media area is SD card... right?
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Yes but we are confused if "media area" is stored on "internal sd" or "external sd". I believe the apps in media area are on internal sd. The op is asking can they be stored on the external sd.?

Media area is the internal phone storage not ext sd card.
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Is this common for other android phones? I mean, doesn't the move to media area option on other phones actually move it to external? It seems to be pointless for move to media area just to move it to internal storage.

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Is this common for other android phones? I mean, doesn't the move to media area option on other phones actually move it to external? It seems to be pointless for move to media area just to move it to internal storage.
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Never had this issue on the N1....and yes very pointless I think.
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Originally Posted by edgeicator
Your phone has an "internal sd card" due to the way the OS is configured. sdcard-ext, as you already know, is your external SD card. Your "internal card" is divided as follows: 2GB for Android OS and webtop software, 2GB dedicated for app installation, and 11GB for media storage. This 11GB partition is called /sdcard/ in addition to media storage.
Android phones without the atrix configuration, like the N1, will see the microSD as "sdcard" and app2sd will move apps to the microSD card. I'm running GladAtrix and Ririal enabled the "preferred install location" option under application settings and i set it to removable sd card. I haven't seen it anywhere else but i did pose the question about enabling it in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103967

Why does Android clutter up your SD card?

Why does Android clutter up my SD card with so many folders and crap. I have a class 10 16 GB card so space isn't an issue. I'm just a bit OCD and when I connect my phone to my computer I see 20+ folders from different apps and what not.
Basically, why doesn't Android better organize all this stuff into one folder? Sure I could make them hidden but I don't see why there needs to be so many folders for so many different things. Where does it all go if you don't have an SD card?
Hopefully someone can offer some insight into this madness.

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Why does Android clutter up my SD card with so many folders and crap. I have a class 10 16 GB card so space isn't an issue. I'm just a bit OCD and when I connect my phone to my computer I see 20+ folders from different apps and what not.
Basically, why doesn't Android better organize all this stuff into one folder? Sure I could make them hidden but I don't see why there needs to be so many folders for so many different things. Where does it all go if you don't have an SD card?
Hopefully someone can offer some insight into this madness.
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Lol
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Agree with OP. I spend a lot of my time on my phone in the SD via root explorer. And the amount of folders NOT created by me is dizzying. And I've wondered the same about what if no sd'. Maybe that's why the the android devices before froyo performed sooo poorly. Froyo was the first iteration of android that supported move to SD. Maybe before froyo, all of that crap went to the /data partition of the painfully memory-limited devices of the time. Thus the poor performance.
Just a stab at it. Dunno. Thinking out loud - but that's what General is FOR.
But yeah, I wondered about the no SD thing before, too. And I came from winmo, where I kept a really organized SD.
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It would be nice if it wasn't so bad. But for the most part it is not androids fault, its the apps you have used, I have had to get rid of so many, but now im built back up over time and trying new apps out.

Agree here also..hell ICS adds a bunch of folders I don't use..
Alarms,pictures,podcasts,music,notifications,ringtones to name a few..

It's not Android, it's dip**** developers.
All app data is supposed to be stored in [sd_card]\Android\data\[name_of_the_app]. To make it really easy they provide developers a method that gets the directory for their app called getExternalFilesDir().
Email the dip**** devs and tell them to start using getExternalFilesDir. I can tell you that TitaniumBackup and a few others have point blank refused to use that directory, as I have already emailed them.
NewsRob and a few others indicated they would look into moving to that directory during the next major release.

Thanks for the info.
@skylar
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I have become so accustomed to reinstalling OS's after dealing with annual re installation of Microshaft OS's it doesnt bother me anymore.
Hell they are closed source, I pay big $$$ and have just as many issues just like another unmentioned OS.
I will take open source (Linux, Android, FreeBSD.. others) and the ability to create, not to mention share at no cost, unlike those others who charge $$$ any day of the week.

Lol, couldn't agree with this any more. Files and folders are about the only thing I'm OCD about and it bugs me to no end.

Yup, android and android developers ought to do something about folders cluttering mem cards, I also came from windows mobile before I started out with android, windows had a dedicated folder for application's data called program files, android or atleast developers should stick to the default android folder on sd cards to minimize the clutter

Get more space on 8GB Nexus 7?

I got my Nexus 7, just rooted it and thinking of free up some space. Which apps can I remove without damaging the system? Can I remove these without any trouble:
Calendar (i will use Jorte)
Currents
Earth
Email
Gallery ( i will use quickpic)
Google+
Latitude
Local
Messenger
Play Music(will use my own musicplayer)
Talk
Voice Search
Youtube(will use www.youtube.com)
How can I remove them the securest way?
Anything else to free up space?

You can remove most of those. But the safest way to find out is to rename them by adding .bak at the end then reboot. Check for ill side effects and if none, then you can truly delete them. I would keep downloads and a few others I saw you print. Anything that can be installed from market can be removed.
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Ok. Anyone done this before and now which I should delete?
Can I just rename those under /system/app/ ?

Removing apps is always a decent option to free up space. Just be careful. I would also recommend investing in an otg cable. Using thumbdrives or external self powered hard drives is a great option. Putting my 1Tb drive to work with it soon.
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Before removing anything, you should do a nandroid backup. Then move that to a safe place off the device.
That way, if you mess something up, you can get it back.
OTG works great for storage, you just can't use it for app installation and usage. Photos and videos work well from it though you have to deal with something sticking out of your device.
You might also consider one of the WiFi devices (like Kingston Wi-Drive) which will give you similar to OTG without having something plugged in all the time.

Yeah, first thing I did was a nandroid backup
I tried rename some of the apps under /system/app to *.bak, and did a reboot, but they are still in my apps?
I have to order a OTG cable, to store media on! Will this work for a 8GB aswell, says only 16 and 32GB? http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-A-Femal...ccessories&hash=item1e70f4ba8c#ht_1628wt_1010

I would strongly suggest against removing downloads.
A great place that I always free app space from is /system/media. You can always generally safely remove ringtones, pictures, wallpapers, live wallpaper app and wallpapers if you're not using them...
Make sure that you're not locally caching google play music songs if you are using play - your stuff won't be available offline, but it also won't take up space.
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This us the very reason why I always buy more than I think I need as far as disk space goes. I know Google and Asus were aiming to keep the N7 at a minimum cost but 8gb is useless for a device of this type. In actuality you're only getting a little more than 5gb.
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You might want to see how much space you actually save before going through the trouble. I suspect that most of these apps are a few mb at most.

It doesn't stick out that bad.
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everlong81 said:
I got my Nexus 7, just rooted it and thinking of free up some space. Which apps can I remove without damaging the system? Can I remove these without any trouble:
Calendar (i will use Jorte)
Currents
Earth
Email
Gallery ( i will use quickpic)
Google+
Latitude
Local
Messenger
Play Music(will use my own musicplayer)
Talk
Voice Search
Youtube(will use www.youtube.com)
How can I remove them the securest way?
Anything else to free up space?
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You can safely remove all of the listed apps using Titanium Backup. But I do believe that Latitude and Local are part of the Google Maps app and that will have to go if you want the two gone.

If you go to settings / storage you can peek around and see what's taking up most space.
Also android assistant can help you mass cleanup your caches - use with care.
Like above posters said everything on Google play can be smoothly uninstalled or reinstalled if you please.
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Have a look at cyanogenmod wiki, there's a nice list
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removing system apps wont free up any space in your storage/app partition. itll free up space in the system partition which wont help you with what you want. theres already lots of space in the system partition. just to let you know.

Please ignore my post.

About OTG
Is it possible to put my games on USB drive? I have Modern Combat 4, Fifa 12, Real Racing.

Ways of Getting Outside Files Directly to External Storage in 4.4

I posted this in another thread but thought it might be generally helpful as the "unrooted" deal with the external storage limitations of 4.4...
Geordie Affy said:
@BarryH_GEG could I tranfer lets say a film from Internal Storage to SDCard on KitKat??
Thanks in advance.
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The work-around to getting pretty much anything to external SD is Samsung's My Files. The challenge is moving huge files, that or moving a lot of files simultaneously that are collectively huge. There might not be enough free space on your internal storage to get the files on to your device. Here's a couple of ways of getting files directly to external storage. Like everyone else I'm not thrilled with the new external SD card restrictions but there are ways to accomplish pretty much anything. The only thing I haven't found a work around for is syncing. I ended up moving a bunch of apps and files to external storage so I could move my sync folders to internal storage.
You can setup a two-window instance of My Files and drag-and-drop content directly from Dropbox to External SD.
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You can also use Samsung Link to transfer files from another Samsung device, a PC, or a cloud service (Dropbox, OneDrive, Box) directly to external storage. IMHO, Samsung Link is one of the most overlooked features Samsung provides. It's fantastic for managing and viewing files across devices. For example, I can take a picture with my Gear which transfers it to my N3. I can view, edit, and share the pic from my N10.1-14 or PC seconds later. Anyway, here's a screen shot of it.
One of the great features of Samsung Link is that all registered devices are available to all other registered devices whether or not they're on the same Wi-Fi network. It even works over 3/4G. When devices are on the same network they have root access to each other. When they're not they have access to up to 10 user-specified folders or directories.

Another Possible Workaround for SD Card Files
This might be a work around for some users that have different files on your sd card. If you hook up your tablet to a computer (I used Windows 7) with the provided usb cable, Windows will see your device both the internal and external card. You can create folders through your pc and simply put your different files in the folders, for example for pdf's you could make a folder pdf then put all your pdf's into the folder, you can even drag and drop on the computer. I did that with a bunch of mp3's I had. I then used ES File Explorer to navigate to the folder on my tablet and all the files were available and worked properly. Might not be for everyone but I hope it helps for some users with the Kit Kat limitations.

It might be useful to note that the stock browser can also download files directly to the SD card in any folder you want.
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