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Quadrant Benchmark on Vibrant 2600???

One of my coworkers has a tmobile vibrant with some lag fix according to him.. he did a quadrant benchmark right in front of me and it was showing 2500 plus everytime.. Im very curious as to what is making his phone so fast. And can it be dont to ours. Hes not running a custom rom or overclocking. Im only getting 1030 with mine clocked at 1.2ghz. Any Ideas? I couldnt get into too much details with him yesterday and I dont know whens the next time ill see him..

If you were to look at a test break down you would see generally all the scores are identical or the epic a little ahead except in the read/write area. The scores from their read/write are just inflating their overall score. It's a issue with quadrant and how it handles its overall score. Basically it just makes the system easy to abuse/cheat. So I wouldn't worry much about the difference in your score and his.
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The reason other Galaxy S phones score high in quadrant is because of the lag fix they use. The lag fix mounts a different file system on the phone with DRAMATICALLY increases read-write times. That portion of the quadrant benchmark gets inflated beyond reason. Using this game technique, Cyanogen was able to score more than 3000 on a snapdragon phone.
All of the Galaxy S phones have the same processor. Also, quadrant is a terrible benchmark. It's the most over-quoted and abused benchmark for android phones

Ahh ok.. thats good to know.. so what would be a better benchmark to use? Linpack?

jok3sta said:
Ahh ok.. thats good to know.. so what would be a better benchmark to use? Linpack?
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Linpack is good for measuring raw CPU processing power... but only on devices running the same version of android. Phones with 2.2 will score insanely high due to the JIT compiler. For example, a snapdragon phone with Froyo can score ~40 Mflops. A snapdragon phone with eclair scores around 7 Mflops. Does Froyo make the phone run 5-6X faster? Hell no. In some cases, the difference is almost unnoticeable to the human eye.
Here is a rundown of what I believe to be the pros and cons of various benchmarks:
Linpack
Pros:
- Good for measuring CPU processing power on the same version of Android
- Great tool for measuring the performance gain from overclocking
Cons
- Scores are boosted unreasonably by Froyo's JIT compiler on snapdragon phones
Quadrant
Pros:
- Great tool for measuring the performance gain from overclocking
- Decent tool for measuring 3D graphics performance (just pay attention to FPS, not the end result)
- Decent tool for measuring 2D graphics performance (again, look at FPS)
- The paid version ("Quadrant Pro" I believe) shows which parts of the benchmark contributed to the score. Easier to spot the inflated CPU or I/O inflation
Cons:
- I/O portion isn't valued as much as others, but can boost scores beyond reason via exploits, hacks, fixes, etc.
- CPU portion is inflated on phones running 2.2. A Nexus One is not faster than any Galaxy S, Droid X, Droid 2, etc.
Neocore
Pros:
- Good tool for measuring graphics processing power
Cons:
- Graphics are not intense enough to push the power of very fast GPU's. Some phones will hit their FPS limit
- Only measures graphics processing power.
Nenamark1
Pros:
- Great tool for measuring graphics processing power
- Effects are advanced enough to show the performance of faster GPUs in relation to phones with lesser GPUs.
Cons:
- Only measures graphics processing power.

Sweet thanks for all the info man..

Agreed, this is great info thanks. I think the quadrant score is the most quoted becuase it provides a very easy to read graph built in with it for instant comparing/gratification. I guess I am gonna start going by linpack and nenamark1.

hydralisk said:
Linpack is good for measuring raw CPU processing power... but only on devices running the same version of android. Phones with 2.2 will score insanely high due to the JIT compiler. For example, a snapdragon phone with Froyo can score ~40 Mflops. A snapdragon phone with eclair scores around 7 Mflops. Does Froyo make the phone run 5-6X faster? Hell no. In some cases, the difference is almost unnoticeable to the human eye.
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Linpack is ok for when your using same CPU comparison, different CPU's can cause issues...The reason why snapdragon gets scores of 5-6x is for some reason the snapdragon utilizes the VFP rather then using raw processing power..aka snapdragon cheats on the Linpack.
In reality our I/O scores should be a lot higher then it is as even in the Epic some of samsung's crappy file system still exists. But not as high as the lagfixed Vibrant of course.
Quadrant Pro is probably best indicator out of them all(The non-pro version is pretty much useless unless your comparing the same phone)...the con of having 2.2 show is higher is expected as it is a measure of efficiency of JIT in comparison to the current. The OS always played a role in Benchmarks so it is expected.

it can be faked by using a different partition to test on. IIRC the data partition making the speeds much faster than they should be so be careful when accepting those high scores

rjmjr69 said:
it can be faked by using a different partition to test on. IIRC the data partition making the speeds much faster than they should be so be careful when accepting those high scores
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It is not exactly faking it..as you are increasing performance..thing is you cannot see at what it performs well at unless you see the individual scores from the Pro version....

Lower Quadrant Score With New ROM

So I flashed Skyraider today, and my quadrant score dropped 100 points from stock sense. What the hell is going on here....

The Black Droid said:
So I flashed Skyraider today, and my quadrant score dropped 100 points from stock sense. What the hell is going on here....
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Sitting at 1032. With the stock ROM, I was getting around 1120.
Why are these scores so low???

Q scores || ROMs
Quadrant scores vary by ROM and kernel, and by different kernels in the same ROM.
Those scores are expected to vary.

Quadrant scores, don't take those to heart... It's all about feel. I've run roms where they might score low, but feel and move quick.
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I just don't understand how some of these guys have anywhere from 2700-3300 as their quad score. I would imagine their phones are running insanely fast

Maybe, they are most likely overclocking. Some phones don't like going too high. Like on mine, I can't go over 1.113, or my phone slows to a crawl and locks up/reboots.
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The Black Droid said:
I just don't understand how some of these guys have anywhere from 2700-3300 as their quad score. I would imagine their phones are running insanely fast
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Where have you seen people post these scores for their Inc?
I'm willing to bet good money that if you are seeing people post scores that high, they are either:
A. Not running Quadrant from an Inc but a much more powerful device (like an Android tablet)
B. Faking the results in Photoshop (or just lying about the number if no screenshot is provided)
C. Running a setup that doesn't actually run through the Quadrant test properly. For example, Quadrant didn't run properly on Gingerbread roms at first, and the scores that it would produce were extremely erratic. Sometimes they would be extremely low, sometimes they would be extremely high, but they weren't accurate or repeatable.
D. Running some sort of insane setup that is only stable enough to finish a Quadrant run, and will never actually be used for anything
Frankly, even D is far-fetched.
I would be inclined to call a 100 point fluctuation in Quadrant scores insignificant.
If you really want to chase the highest benchmark scores, you'll need to overclock your CPU and run the system as lean as possible. That means uninstalling or disabling a lot of the things that make your life easier day-to-day.
Also, in case you haven't already seen it in your own testing, Quadrant scores are always lowest on the first run. If you press the back button and immediately start a new Quadrant run, you'll get a much higher score.
Like any unit of measurement, Quadrant scores do serve a useful purpose. But as is often the case when the score itself is seen by some as the end-goal, it is often misapplied.
The same can be seen in digital cameras and the megapixel arms race. Everyone wants to brag about how many megapixels their camera is capable of. Everyone wants the highest number of megapixels, assuming that more MP = better image. Few people realize what it actually means, or why it matters very little these days.

A lot of those people are overclocking to get really high scores and for all the reasons listed above (nice post!).
You really should not be looking to get that high on the incredible, you'll end up draining your battery like crazy. Around the 1,000 mark is great for playing higher-end games on the market as long as you aren't running a bunch of things in the background. Just about anything else you can think up of doing on your phone should run well, you won't have a sluggish device and you won't be killing your battery either.
If you do end up trying to overclock your phone or using a ROM or kernel combination that will give you a much higher score I don't think you'll notice any difference when doing anything on your phone, but your battery will drop much quicker.
Like other people have said, Quad scores don't matter much- take them lightly as you see them.

There is a lot that goes into that score. The highest score I could get today is 1656 but it was consistently in the Upper 1500s, I ran 5 tests.
My setup:
CM7 RC2
Incredikernel 03/06 OC to 1113Mhz/Performance Govenor
16Gb Class 2 microSD card.
If someone is using a class 4 or a class 6 card their i/o scores could be much higher than mine which would result in a much higher overall score than mine. Also keep in mind with Linux Kernels can very alot and that there are different types of task schedulers in them such as BFS or CFS which can have dramatic affect on the quadrent scores. Quadrent tends to score BFS kernels higher. So yeah I can believe people are hitting most of the score they post up. However byrong is right about it not being a setup you'd want to use on a daily basis. For me it causes random reboots, my phone gets hot and the UI becomes laggy after a little while also the battery drops like a brick.
My normal setup that I run on a daily basis is the same kernel uc to 803Mhz/smartass governor. It is extremely stable and is smooth as butter but my quadrent scores are only only in the 1100s with my high being 1244.
Its really not all about the score, if your happy with the performance who cares about the score.

Is my s7edge lemon ?

So I bought a tmobile s7edge after returning my Canadian exynos after reading about various online reports on how overall a better processor the snap 820 is ,also the fact that fm radio is built made it overall a better value for me.
However I tried benchmarking my fine expecting antutu to be around somewhere between 120k to 130 but the best my device gets is 98k (this is after keeping it in a freezer). Even my 3d mark scores are low for a snap 820 device. Quadrant score is somewhere between 34k to 41k Only the geekbench seems to give a normalized score.
I have tried factory format, wiping cache, putting in the freezer over an hour.
One odd thing which I noticed was my gpu clock was stuck at 214 mhz even in the best case scenario( Cpuz pic attached)Could it be that the new tmobile update screwed up gpu clock or is it something else.
I cannot return the phone unfortunately as it beyond 30 days and I hardly doubt that phone could easily be a lemon as I remember once benchmarking quadrant (fresh out of the box) and it gave me a 57k score. What do you guys think what's going on?

Yes, it's. I'll buy it from you for $400. ?

TengTengvn : $900 and it's yours lol

Bump anyone ?

I am still waiting for a solutions folks. Please anyone ?

Antutu

Hi,
Stupid question alert, am reading for the flaming I no doubt deserve.
What causes the variance in antutu scores for the same device?
Is it based on the condition of the phone? As in, a phone that has very few apps installed would score higher than the same model with lots of apps?
Or do different instances of the same phone perform differently, ie differences on a silicon level etc?
I ask as my Redmi 3S (3gb model) scores 43140 on antutu but it seems the average is 39744
Or perhaps it's just that most people test the 2gb model and this brings the average down...

Galaxy S20 Ultra isn't as FAST as YOU think IT IS!!!

Hmmmm what a difference! This is very bad performance for a 1400 dolar phone. And what's your score on the Galaxy S20 Ultra?
https://youtu.be/LfZUNL5hyVw

Scores on these things are useless, not worth watching the video
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Definitely don't waste your time on watching such a useless video with cheesy "royalty free" muzak.
My S20 Ultra feels as smooth as my iPad Pro 2018. Which is saying a LOT!

AVB0010 said:
Hmmmm what a difference! This is very bad performance for a 1400 dolar phone. And what's your score on the Galaxy S20 Ultra?
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Simply put you are comparing apple to oranges. The Huwaei phone does not have any Google services so not all things can be considered equal here.
Until the Huweai is a real Android phone with Google services than this comparison is null and void.
EDIT: Also, Huweai has been caught doing unscrupulous things before. So gaming the benchmark system would not at all surprise me.

S20 ultra results doesn't make sense to me. You can download an app called androbench to test the storage speed. This is my score from Exynos S20U 5G

I don't put much stock in Benchmarks (particularly Antutu) it really doesn't give you anything - the best way to test a phone is using the phone and feeling how it works - how fast it is - how smooth - etc....
having said that, for grins and giggles I ran Antutu on my S20Ultra and the results were totally different from the video - so, take that video with a grain of salt....on any Benchmark Test - YMMV...

Geekser said:
I don't put much stock in Benchmarks (particularly Antutu) it really doesn't give you anything - the best way to test a phone is using the phone and feeling how it works - how fast it is - how smooth - etc....
having said that, for grins and giggles I ran Antutu on my S20Ultra and the results were totally different from the video - so, take that video with a grain of salt....on any Benchmark Test - YMMV...
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Snapdragon version right?

Aezhyr said:
Snapdragon version right?
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Yes.

Geekser said:
Yes.
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The max i got on my exynos was 527k.
Huge difference to your score. I know benchmarks aren't everything but still...
Does the Snapdragon version heat up? Even just opening the camera for a while I start feeling the phone just a bit warm next to the camera (the processor location)
Was wondering if the SD has the same issue.
I'm considering returning the exynos and import the SD version from Korea or Hong Kong

Snapdragon here, cold as ice.

Aezhyr said:
The max i got on my exynos was 527k.
Huge difference to your score. I know benchmarks aren't everything but still...
Does the Snapdragon version heat up? Even just opening the camera for a while I start feeling the phone just a bit warm next to the camera (the processor location)
Was wondering if the SD has the same issue.
I'm considering returning the exynos and import the SD version from Korea or Hong Kong
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Just do a search on Samsung Community Forums or on Google and you will find the Exynos s20s run hot! This being just from basic tasks. Samsung really blew it this time with their Exynos chipset. Only way they can fix this is by throttling in a future update which would make the Chipset even slower than it is now vs the Snapdragon. The Snapdragons are much cooler and battery life is fantastic.
If you want to compare performance I'll run 3dmark and you do the same on yours. Exynos vs Snapdragon.
Benchmark Results
Slingshot Extreme - OpenGL ES 3.1
Overall score 7367
Graphics score 8400
Physics score 5151
Sling Shot Extreme - Vulkan
Overall score 6709
Grapics score 8249
Physics score 4058
This was with Power mode set to high performance - FHD 2400x1080 - 120hz

Paul_Deemer said:
Just do a search on Samsung Community Forums or on Google and you will find the Exynos s20s run hot! This being just from basic tasks. Samsung really blew it this time with their Exynos chipset. Only way they can fix this is by throttling in a future update which would make the Chipset even slower than it is now vs the Snapdragon. The Snapdragons are much cooler and battery life is fantastic.
If you want to compare performance I'll run 3dmark and you do the same on yours. Exynos vs Snapdragon.
Benchmark Results
Slingshot Extreme - OpenGL ES 3.1
Overall score 7367
Graphics score 8400
Physics score 5151
Sling Shot Extreme - Vulkan
Overall score 6709
Grapics score 8249
Physics score 4058
This was with Power mode set to high performance - FHD 2400x1080 - 120hz
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I did that test the other day with me phone set to high performance as well. The results were pretty disappointing:
Slings Shot Extreme - OpenGL ES 3.1
Overall score 6696
Graphics score 8473
Physics score 3862
Sling Shot Extreme - Vulkan
Overall score 6220
Graphics score 8724
Physics score 3103
The graphics score aren't bad, but the physics ones are downright sh**.

Aezhyr said:
I did that test the other day with me phone set to high performance as well. The results were pretty disappointing:
Slings Shot Extreme - OpenGL ES 3.1
Overall score 6696
Graphics score 8473
Physics score 3862
Sling Shot Extreme - Vulkan
Overall score 6220
Graphics score 8724
Physics score 3103
The graphics score aren't bad, but the physics ones are downright sh**.
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Get the Snapdragon

Aezhyr said:
The max i got on my exynos was 527k.
Huge difference to your score. I know benchmarks aren't everything but still...
Does the Snapdragon version heat up? Even just opening the camera for a while I start feeling the phone just a bit warm next to the camera (the processor location)
Was wondering if the SD has the same issue.
I'm considering returning the exynos and import the SD version from Korea or Hong Kong
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I have never had any heat issues - playing games it might get slightly warm, but that could be because I am holding it close in my hands and my hands are warm, if you know what I mean....I love this phone - it is the beast it was expected to be - original camera issues (focus problems) seem to be better - maybe not perfect but definately better - I am very happy with this phone....hope you can work things out so you are too - good luck.

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I have never had any heat issues - playing games it might get slightly warm, but that could be because I am holding it close in my hands and my hands are warm, if you know what I mean....I love this phone - it is the beast it was expected to be - original camera issues (focus problems) seem to be better - maybe not perfect but definately better - I am very happy with this phone....hope you can work things out so you are too - good luck.
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I'm not saying I'm not happy, but I open the camera for 5 minutes and CPU goes to 65°C +, it's insane. The performance is great, but no "ultra" like the Snapdragon version
I love this phone, but it's like loving a Ferrari with a Fiat Punto engine! The design is amazing, the screen and etc. But I feel like I'm being ripped off by paying 10% more for a phone that's 10% worse.