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Hello everyone
Long story short, I decided to upgrade and went with an M9 (or three), and each one had a different problem. All of them suffered from light leaks, the last one stuck pixel too. The camera is poor, so I am weighing my options. Coming from a G3, my obvious choice would be a G4 but...BUT !
I have managed to find the Exynos variant of the Note 4 for about 378 pounds, brand new and sealed. My question is (for current users) - would you consider it future proof? Is it still snappy, good, and a good investement for another year or so? Would you recommend it over the G4?
Many thanks
Well, I was in the same boat as you: Wanted to upgrade from my G3 because I had the 2GB variant, it was a lagfest with launcher redraws and apps closing all the time. AOSP had good performance but also had bugs and the camera sucked.
So I found the Exynos Note 4 for a good prince in my area and decided to take the plunge even though I never owned a samsung phone before, and bought it based on the interest I had on the Note II back then and some superficial reviews I've had read about it.
I have absolutely no regrets whatsoever, the Note 4 definitely feels like an upgrade from the G3. It's faster, the screen has better colors and contrast, better visibility in the sun, and touchwiz came a long way from the old days where it was regarded as one of the worst manufacturer skins to android. The note 4 has many features that amazed me, including the best one-hand mode implementation so far.
I say go with it, you won't be disappointed.
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Well, I was in the same boat as you: Wanted to upgrade from my G3 because I had the 2GB variant, it was a lagfest with launcher redraws and apps closing all the time. AOSP had good performance but also had bugs and the camera sucked.
So I found the Exynos Note 4 for a good prince in my area and decided to take the plunge even though I never owned a samsung phone before, and bought it based on the interest I had on the Note II back then and some superficial reviews I've had read about it.
I have absolutely no regrets whatsoever, the Note 4 definitely feels like an upgrade from the G3. It's faster, the screen has better colors and contrast, better visibility in the sun, and touchwiz came a long way from the old days where it was regarded as one of the worst manufacturer skins to android. The note 4 has many features that amazed me, including the best one-hand mode implementation so far.
I say go with it, you won't be disappointed.
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If you have a choice NEVER go for exynos ESPECIALLY if you want to root/flash roms later on. If you are fine with stock rom then it doesn't matter which you go for. Just know that stock is a little laggy no matter which variant you go for.
I hated the lag and finally installed CM and am not looking back, you can get SPEN functionality on AOSP roms now too so not really an issue. CM FLIES on note 4, so fast!!!!
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If you have a choice NEVER go for exynos ESPECIALLY if you want to root/flash roms later on. If you are fine with stock rom then it doesn't matter which you go for. Just know that stock is a little laggy no matter which variant you go for.
I hated the lag and finally installed CM and am not looking back, you can get SPEN functionality on AOSP roms now too so not really an issue. CM FLIES on note 4, so fast!!!!
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Maybe I should've worded my post differently. The snapdragon isn't available in my area, so there was no option of choosing variants. Exynos has no aosp, but SimplRom is pretty fast and yet has all the built in spen functionality.
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Maybe I should've worded my post differently. The snapdragon isn't available in my area, so there was no option of choosing variants. Exynos has no aosp, but SimplRom is pretty fast and yet has all the built in spen functionality.
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Welcome to the family my brothers
I have the Exynos version & it's great
I recently got a Note 4 N910C, which is the Exynos model for the EU and I can honestly say that I love it.
I seek a kind advice, I currently have a 2GB G3 and i am looking to upgrade (as i wont have an opportunity to do that in future) Been deciding between an iphone 6plus and note 4, or basically any other big phone. So should i go for a note 4 or a different device? My main concern is if the note will be a solid choise for about 2 years or so.
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Oneplus two,Note 5,iphone 7 plus or 6s plus are coming in a month or so.If you can wait
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Oneplus two,Note 5,iphone 7 plus or 6s plus are coming in a month or so.If you can wait
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I know that, what i also know is that when they are released they will cost a ton in my country so im afraid that i wont be able to aford them. But i guess ill have to just wait and see
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Get the exynos, the CPU will be cooler therefore you will have no underclock due to high temps like 4 core snapdragon. Also a dev here (sorry i dont remember his name) is working on CM for our phone with exynos chip. But i really don't feel like i need to change the stock samsung rom so bad, some guys here are drowning on a teaspoon of water. Note 4 is one of the best phones atm, go for it.
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I know that, what i also know is that when they are released they will cost a ton in my country so im afraid that i wont be able to aford them. But i guess ill have to just wait and see
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Well,oneplus two will be a lot cheaper than Note 4 exynos
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By the way it's rumored oneplus two will have the snapdragon 810. This chip has overheating issues.
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Well,oneplus two will be a lot cheaper than Note 4 exynos
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Well oneplus one costs about as much as exynos note 4 here, it is cheaper but the difference is not that big so i think that oneplus two will be about the same price as a note
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By the way it's rumored oneplus two will have the snapdragon 810. This chip has overheating issues.
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Oh yeah, the controversial snapdragon 810 lol.. I almost forgot that oneplus two will have it
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By the way it's rumored oneplus two will have the snapdragon 810. This chip has overheating issues.
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Oneplus two has revised v2.1for them.They have solved the heating issues
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Oneplus two has revised v2.1for them.They have solved the heating issues
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sony Z3+ HAS 2.1v
an so what ?
it is burning !!
snapdargon 810 i crap !
Last few years I had Nexus 4, and Nexus 5, absolutely loved them.. This year I switched from Nexus 5 to galaxy S6 and I love it too except that software is pretty ****e..
Touchwiz is slow and laggy, memory managment is sh*t, 0 dev support, 0 aosp roms, slow updates...
On the other hand, nexus is completely different story, pure stock android, fast and fluid, 0 memory issues, amazing dev support, fast updates..
But the thing thats holding me atm is that i will kinda downgrade cpu from exynos beast CPU to snapdragon 810.. also display is gorgeous on s6 and camera is amazing..
Help me :/ what should I do
I am selling my S6 once my pre order arrives in November.
While I do like the camera, battery is so so, root is out the door with the latest versions of Android, TW absolutely sucks and I can't stand the memory management.
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I am selling my S6 once my pre order arrives in November.
While I do like the camera, battery is so so, root is out the door with the latest versions of Android, TW absolutely sucks and I can't stand the memory management.
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Yeah I'm gonna sell S6 probably..
Too bad i live in croatia and i cant preorder it :/
I have to buy it from amazon cuz google store is not available in my country
Sold my s6 edge and preordered the nexus 6p..using my moto e backup device until the beast arrives in November... You get far better speakers, far better battery life, far better, latest pure Android os on the 6p.. I know for sure that I won't miss the camera and screen of the s6 edge, as it won't be day and night difference.
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Last few years I had Nexus 4, and Nexus 5, absolutely loved them.. This year I switched from Nexus 5 to galaxy S6 and I love it too except that software is pretty ****e..
Touchwiz is slow and laggy, memory managment is sh*t, 0 dev support, 0 aosp roms, slow updates...
On the other hand, nexus is completely different story, pure stock android, fast and fluid, 0 memory issues, amazing dev support, fast updates..
But the thing thats holding me atm is that i will kinda downgrade cpu from exynos beast CPU to snapdragon 810.. also display is gorgeous on s6 and camera is amazing..
Help me :/ what should I do
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"But the thing thats holding me atm is that i will kinda downgrade cpu from exynos beast CPU to snapdragon 810.. also display is gorgeous on s6 and camera is amazing.."
I really think you answered your own question...It's nice that N6P comes with Android M...So it would be the "first" to have the official M build. But in the grand scheme of things, the N6P are just lacking in too many features and the SD810 chipset is very questionable.
I'd suggest letting others be the guinea pigs, wait for some reviews, then make a much more inform decision.
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"But the thing thats holding me atm is that i will kinda downgrade cpu from exynos beast CPU to snapdragon 810.. also display is gorgeous on s6 and camera is amazing.."
I really think you answered your own question...It's nice that N6P comes with Android M...So it would be the "first" to have the official M build. But in the grand scheme of things, the N6P are just lacking in too many features and the SD810 chipset is very questionable.
I'd suggest letting others be the guinea pigs, wait for some reviews, then make a much more inform decision.
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Yeah exynos CPU is good but TW ruins it, also display quality is not big of a difference :C
As far as pixel ratio sure.. But the S6 is super amoled. And if you don't lie TW you can check the S6 forum to see if there's a M Rom available.
Holidays.... Which current or last gen phones are worth an upgrade and have the best/most active dev on XDA? Thoughts?
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Holidays.... Which current or last gen phones are worth an upgrade and have the best/most active dev on XDA? Thoughts?
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- Every Oneplus phone is a good choice.
- Stay away from Samsung if you want good development.
- Motorola has some nice phones with good development.
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- Every Oneplus phone is a good choice.
- Stay away from Samsung if you want good development.
- Motorola has some nice phones with good development.
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Thoughts on the v10?
G4 seems pretty popular, but I don't know if it competes with the V10 performance wise. My first android phone was a second hand LG P350 which worked fine, and still does, only the battery is dead.
So thumbs up for LGs.
As a plus, the G4 and V10 have removable batteries and sd card slots, if you're into those sorts of things.
Another option would be Nexus phones. This will also give you the latest android version ahead of everybody else.
The downside is no removable battery and no sd card slot.
There's also a phone from Huawei, the Mate 8 or S I think, which is said to mop the floor with the S6 Edge+, performance wise.
How about Note3 vs V10 vs s6 edge? Can't decide...64gb SD card and extra battery are nice....dev would mabey be better for note5/s6 though. Ugh.
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How about Note3 vs V10 vs s6 edge? Can't decide...64gb SD card and extra battery are nice....dev would mabey be better for note5/s6 though. Ugh.
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No it wouldn't. Thanks to the Exynos chip, developers are turning away from devices that have it. I've been on the S6 forum some time ago and I only saw touchwiz based roms mostly.
I don't recommend devices with Exynos chips because Samsung doesn't release sources very often (if at all) and that's a big problem for development.
And developers don't want to put up with all the hassle.
Nexus 6 (not P) is still a good buy. In fact, a 64GB model is what I'm shooting for in about a month. 128GB is too pricey, I don't want a fingerprint scanner, and I have no problem trading larger camera pixels for optical image stabilization. Oh, and don't forget that the 6 doesn't have the Snapdragon 810 inside.
I made an decision myself a few months ago. I chose the GS6 and returned it and kept my Galaxy S4. I chose to wait out for the Galaxy S7 and other flagships to be released. But, if you really want a superb phone right now, read below!
First in short:
1. Galaxy S6-series/Note5: Most reliable Android phone on all grounds. Most reliable camera for a 2015 smartphone and has a long-lasting battery. Weekly updates from Samsung which improves the phone are also there! No SD-card expansion here!
2. Moto X Play: Reliable AFFORDABLE!! Android phone that does not crash just like an Galaxy S6. It has a much lesser camera, yet still better than our Galaxy S4. It offers an SD-card expansion slot, AMOLED-LIKE display with brightness rivaling the mighty Galaxy S6-series. Battery-life is this device' top point. It easily outclasses every other modern flagship smartphone.
3. LG G4: Reliable Android phone. Not a reliable camera as the Galaxy S6 (bad dynamic range, bad OIS in certain situations, slow auto exposure-adjusting and many more) BUT when it does work, it produces amazing results in specific situations. Offers mediocre battery-life. Expect yourself to become a wall-hugger, although not as much a wallhugger as people with an iPhone 6(s). It DOES offer SD-card expansion AND a user-replaceable battery!
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Personally, for a reliable phone, I'd pick the Galaxy S6-series flagship model. It's simply the best all-rounder with strong points at every aspect. The Galaxy S6 is imho very cheap for an flagship and is just plain awesome.
If you are on a budget, I recommend the Motorola Moto Play. It's truly a flagship killer, except for it's camera. It's camera is vastly better than what we have on our Galaxy S4, but it does not get close to what an S6 can produce. That said, the camera is very usable! The Moto Play has a truly astounding 5.5" IPS display, about as ridicilously bright as an Galaxy S6 can get and has a ridicilously high contrast ratio (very AMOLED-like!!!). It's killer point isn't it's display though, neither it's speed (keeps up with an Galaxy S6). It has INSANE battery-life! It smokes all Android flagships and Apple's iPhone 6S aswell when it gets down to battery life! Truly, the Moto Play is my top choice for EVERYONE that is on a budget, or is looking for an insanely fast and RELIABLE phone that has mindboggling battery-life. On a side-note, the Moto Play also offers MICRO SD-CARD EXPANSION.
The LG G4 isn't a great choice anymore. It has a lackluster display due to a very low ,maximum brightness, feels sturdy yet cheap. Camera is amazing in specific situations while in other specific situations, it performs worse than even our Galaxy S4 (microphone when outdoors, video in 1080p, the LG G4 is terribly oversharpened while our S4 makes it look smooth like you'd expect). BUT, it does offer user-replaceable battery and a micro sd-card slot! In my opinion, I never swap batteries and only use an SD-card slot.
For both the latest Galaxy S series flagship and the Moto Play you do not need custom roms for stability and reliablity. For the Moto Play you might want custom roms for extra features that the Galaxy already offers out of the box. The LG G4 is a mixed bag here. It's a playfull device, not as feature-proof as the Galaxy S6 is but there ARE custom roms availible for it!
I could give you way more input than this since I research smartphones for my own business regarding what device suits specific people the best.
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I made an decision myself a few months ago. I chose the GS6 and returned it and kept my Galaxy S4. I chose to wait out for the Galaxy S7 and other flagships to be released. But, if you really want a superb phone right now, read below!
First in short:
1. Galaxy S6-series/Note5: Most reliable Android phone on all grounds. Most reliable camera for a 2015 smartphone and has a long-lasting battery. Weekly updates from Samsung which improves the phone are also there! No SD-card expansion here!
2. Moto X Play: Reliable AFFORDABLE!! Android phone that does not crash just like an Galaxy S6. It has a much lesser camera, yet still better than our Galaxy S4. It offers an SD-card expansion slot, AMOLED-LIKE display with brightness rivaling the mighty Galaxy S6-series. Battery-life is this device' top point. It easily outclasses every other modern flagship smartphone.
3. LG G4: Reliable Android phone. Not a reliable camera as the Galaxy S6 (bad dynamic range, bad OIS in certain situations, slow auto exposure-adjusting and many more) BUT when it does work, it produces amazing results in specific situations. Offers mediocre battery-life. Expect yourself to become a wall-hugger, although not as much a wallhugger as people with an iPhone 6(s). It DOES offer SD-card expansion AND a user-replaceable battery!
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Personally, for a reliable phone, I'd pick the Galaxy S6-series flagship model. It's simply the best all-rounder with strong points at every aspect. The Galaxy S6 is imho very cheap for an flagship and is just plain awesome.
If you are on a budget, I recommend the Motorola Moto Play. It's truly a flagship killer, except for it's camera. It's camera is vastly better than what we have on our Galaxy S4, but it does not get close to what an S6 can produce. That said, the camera is very usable! The Moto Play has a truly astounding 5.5" IPS display, about as ridicilously bright as an Galaxy S6 can get and has a ridicilously high contrast ratio (very AMOLED-like!!!). It's killer point isn't it's display though, neither it's speed (keeps up with an Galaxy S6). It has INSANE battery-life! It smokes all Android flagships and Apple's iPhone 6S aswell when it gets down to battery life! Truly, the Moto Play is my top choice for EVERYONE that is on a budget, or is looking for an insanely fast and RELIABLE phone that has mindboggling battery-life. On a side-note, the Moto Play also offers MICRO SD-CARD EXPANSION.
The LG G4 isn't a great choice anymore. It has a lackluster display due to a very low ,maximum brightness, feels sturdy yet cheap. Camera is amazing in specific situations while in other specific situations, it performs worse than even our Galaxy S4 (microphone when outdoors, video in 1080p, the LG G4 is terribly oversharpened while our S4 makes it look smooth like you'd expect). BUT, it does offer user-replaceable battery and a micro sd-card slot! In my opinion, I never swap batteries and only use an SD-card slot.
For both the latest Galaxy S series flagship and the Moto Play you do not need custom roms for stability and reliablity. For the Moto Play you might want custom roms for extra features that the Galaxy already offers out of the box. The LG G4 is a mixed bag here. It's a playfull device, not as feature-proof as the Galaxy S6 is but there ARE custom roms availible for it!
I could give you way more input than this since I research smartphones for my own business regarding what device suits specific people the best.
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Sisters getting the v10, thoughts? Are the v10 and g4 basically the same minus the 4gb ram, build quality and 2nd screen? Very in depth thanks....2015 not a good year for flasgships.... In a perfect world every model would have, at least, an option for removable battery and expandable storage. And I read the s7 might not have either but who knows.....mabey I should wait until next year. Just want the next upgrade to feel like my last upgrade from an evo3d to the s4 ha.
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Sisters getting the v10, thoughts? Are the v10 and g4 basically the same minus the 4gb ram, build quality and 2nd screen? Very in depth thanks....2015 not a good year for flasgships.... In a perfect world every model would have, at least, an option for removable battery and expandable storage. And I read the s7 might not have either but who knows.....mabey I should wait until next year. Just want the next upgrade to feel like my last upgrade from an evo3d to the s4 ha.
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The V10 is a nice upgrade to the LG G4. But, if the camera is important to you then it's good to know that the V10 has the same issue's as the LG G4 BUT, the V10 can record video with manual settings! If you want to feel the massive upgrade, then wait it out. I myself owned an Galaxy S6 and returned it. My little brother and my father both still own their Galaxy S6. I am running Albe's Note 5 custom ROM and when I compare my S4 to their Galaxy S6, it really does not differ all that much. Multitasking on my S4 is the same as on the S6, app-opening speed of small apps differ only by a millisecond. Switching between apps is obviously lagfree and ridicilously fast on the S6 and not on our glitchy Note 5 custom rom-running S4. The S6 did give me a few WOW-reactions, which were:
- Battery life, ~8 SOT daily. I am a chat-aholic and thus I use WhatsApp & snapchat a lot. On my S4 on kitkat, I achieved on average around 6.5 SOT, while my S4 achieves only ~3.5 SOT on the Note 5 rom.
- Display: MUCH brighter and MORE visible display! The S6 is pretty much perfect to use at ~30% brightness outdoors. My S4 would need to be at ~75% brightness to match the same out-door visibility that the S6 offers.
- Speakers: Very rich, deep bass and insane low frequency response while maintaining a very surround-like sound. Also, incredibly loud!
- Camera: It never stops surprising me how ridiculously good the camera on the S6 is. Samsung favors on the S6 to have no noise at all costs. Resulting in ALWAYS having a perfect picture to post on the internet!
- Fast: It never slowed down nor hang in the ~4 months my little brother had his S6.
ONE BAD THING THOUGH! Agressive RAM-management!
So, why did I return my S6 and went back to my S4? The S6' camera was only notably better than my S4' camera at low-light. Sure, my S4 camera is laggy, low-framerate, but I can deal with that. Back when the S6 launched, my S4 was still on KitKat and was pulling daily ~6.5 SOT on around 30% brightness with mixed usage. The S6 barely outperformed my S4 back then. I got a few audio-enhancements for my S4 which resulted in the S6 being only a little bit louder than my S4 was with more surround sound and LESS bass, yes less!!! (Speaker amp at 55, viper4android and Music Eq, all working together :3 ). My S4 multitasked better than my new S6 and my S4 basically offered all the same functionality as the S6 does. Remember, this was with my S4 on KitKat!
Now, you must be having a tough time deciding what to buy... It really depends on what specific part of a phone is the most important to you.
Balanced best phone: Galaxy S6-series/iPhone 6s PLUS (only PLUS model!!!)
Battery best phone: Motorola Moto Play
Specific situations (camera) best phone: LG V10
I guess that's my list right now. All phones that have mediocre battery-life are phones I do not take as an option. A smartphone can only stay smart if it can survive a full day with normal use only. Otherwise it wouldn't be smart heh
Personally i'm going for Nexus phones all the way from now on. It may not offer all the features that the LG UI or Touchwiz do but i'm tired of waiting for updates, custom aosp roms not working properly due to the lack of drivers released by OEM's, tired of LAG and stuttering throughout the phone...
Nexus phones solve all of that.
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Personally i'm going for Nexus phones all the way from now on. It may not offer all the features that the LG UI or Touchwiz do but i'm tired of waiting for updates, custom aosp roms not working properly due to the lack of drivers released by OEM's, tired of LAG and stuttering throughout the phone...
Nexus phones solve all of that.
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Yes, they do that. But the same stability is also given by the latest Touchwiz and by Motorola's Moto mid-range and higher series phones. Especially the Galaxy S6 series and the Moto Play are terrifyingly amazing. No need for custom ROMS, no lag, no hiccups or stuttering, insanely fast and excel in batterylife which is exactly the part where the latest Nexus phones are terrible at. The Nexus 5X barely outperforming the batterylife of an Galaxy S4 shows how lackluster it's batterylife is. The Nexus 6P has average batterylife. Expect 1 SOT more on the 6P than you'd get on a stock Galaxy S4.
If you want a stable, reliable phone that does well at every aspect of being a smartphone, then the Galaxy S6 series and the Moto Play are the best option here. They update their phones fast, with the S6 having weekly system updates and the Moto Play a little less frequently but still gets the big software updates pretty fast. The Nexus line-up offer the fastest software updates, but with just 'okay' hardware and performance, what kind of improvements do you expect? The S6-series has weekly updates, improving hardware and software whereas the Moto Play aready is running on Marshmellow.
I owned an Galaxy Nexus and a Nexus 4 myself. In the end, I keep returning to the more feature-rich touchwiz on my S4. The Moto Play has near-stock android, but once again it's feature packed
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Yes, they do that. But the same stability is also given by the latest Touchwiz and by Motorola's Moto mid-range and higher series phones. Especially the Galaxy S6 series and the Moto Play are terrifyingly amazing. No need for custom ROMS, no lag, no hiccups or stuttering, insanely fast and excel in batterylife which is exactly the part where the latest Nexus phones are terrible at. The Nexus 5X barely outperforming the batterylife of an Galaxy S4 shows how lackluster it's batterylife is. The Nexus 6P has average batterylife. Expect 1 SOT more on the 6P than you'd get on a stock Galaxy S4.
If you want a stable, reliable phone that does well at every aspect of being a smartphone, then the Galaxy S6 series and the Moto Play are the best option here. They update their phones fast, with the S6 having weekly system updates and the Moto Play a little less frequently but still gets the big software updates pretty fast. The Nexus line-up offer the fastest software updates, but with just 'okay' hardware and performance, what kind of improvements do you expect? The S6-series has weekly updates, improving hardware and software whereas the Moto Play aready is running on Marshmellow.
I owned an Galaxy Nexus and a Nexus 4 myself. In the end, I keep returning to the more feature-rich touchwiz on my S4. The Moto Play has near-stock android, but once again it's feature packed
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Sorry but there are plenty of videos on youtube that show the Note 5 STILL lags, nowhere near as much as before but it's still there. Also i don't want to have to deal with crap like Knox voiding my warranty and ram management issues. Also i really like the smoothness and customization of AOSP based roms and AOSP roms will never run perfect on Samsung phones. + The S6 battery is complete crap.
I will agree that the Moto Play is a very good phone though, especially if you're into hardware customization and the price is quite good too.
Well guess I'll wait for the 820 chipset and see how it goes haha.......?
Yes. I'd also wait for the next generation phones. Right now there are far to many to choose from.
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Sorry but there are plenty of videos on youtube that show the Note 5 STILL lags, nowhere near as much as before but it's still there. Also i don't want to have to deal with crap like Knox voiding my warranty and ram management issues. Also i really like the smoothness and customization of AOSP based roms and AOSP roms will never run perfect on Samsung phones. + The S6 battery is complete crap.
I will agree that the Moto Play is a very good phone though, especially if you're into hardware customization and the price is quite good too.
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I do not own an Note 5. The only devices I own is an Galaxy S6 and an Galaxy S6 Edge Plus. Both do not lag. They DO lag when you enable power saving though. Both have very agressive RAM management issue's. I recommend you not to believe stories about bad batterylife of the Galaxy S6 as Samsung pushes (at least here, in Holland) weekly updates. Their last update was once again for batterylife. This time, it was specifically for battery-standby. And it really did pay-off since my standby times have much improved. If you do not have hazardous applications installed on your Galaxy S6 such as applications that promise to be an RAM-cleaner or a battery-saver, then you should be seeing SOT's of 6.5 hours or more a day on auto-brightness. When I just bought my S6, mine had insane batterylife. My father's S6 had terrible batterylife. I was pulling 8 SOT a day while my father only got at most 2.5 SOT a day. Back then he had stupid Google Play services drain it's battery. Right now, he too gets insane SOT since a month or two ago.
AOSP rom's on an Exynos device? Why'd you even expect that? It's common sense to not expect AOSP or CM for an Exynos device. IF it does happen (like the just released CM for the S6), then it will provide you great RAM management, terrible batterylife and a terrible camera-experience. The S6 as of now is the perfect device for the average joe AND for the average joe that likes productivity. Do not get the S6 if you are a flash-aholic and bound to use AOSP because you think Google is God.
Moto Play is bad at gaming, but does the rest very well. The only phone that is the best balanced is as far as I know, the Galaxy S6-series. It isn't the best at every aspect, but it's always one of the best at everything it does, and that's what makes that device special and is why I recommend the S6 now unlike a few months ago
I'm confused whether it's ram or processor or nothing can make fast my device.
I use 300 apps in my asus laser. And average running apps would be fifteen to twenty. All these might not actually use at a time. But they are staying in recent apps even i quit using them. Don't say my top uninstall useless apps.
Prob is apps taking more than 4 to 5 seconds time to open. Im seriously looking out for which does not take time after i tap on the app. This is my only requirement. Multitasking. Help?
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harigavara said:
I'm confused whether it's ram or processor or nothing can make fast my device.
I use 300 apps in my asus laser. And average running apps would be fifteen to twenty. All these might not actually use at a time. But they are staying in recent apps even i quit using them. Don't say me to uninstall useless apps.
Prob is apps taking more than 4 to 5 seconds time to open. Im seriously looking out for which does not take time after i tap on the app. This is my only requirement. Multitasking. Help?
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I'm looking to replace my Moto G 2nd Gen with a phone which offers decent performance (light gaming and apps) and at least 1 or 1.5 days of battery backup. I have been closely reading OP2 XDA Forums and OP Community for a month and found a lot of issues related to fingerprint sensors, lags and heating.
Could you please tell me if things are improved in Oxygen OS 3 ? I also don't mind flashing custom ROMs, if they are stable.
I have read about the overheating issues in SD 810. Does it make the OP2 too hot to handle it with light gaming and normal apps (Mail, Maps, Chrome, etc.) usage? Or do you recommend settling down to the newly launched Zenfone 3 with some sacrifice in performance?
Thanks for the responses!
Edit: My budget was $250. I have stretched it to $300 now. It would be great if you could give your opinions considering the price. Also, I feel that 6 GB RAM is an overkill for a smartphone and the battery life of OP3 in the reviews doesn't seem to be impressive.
Yeah it's definitely worth buying if you are looking to upgrade. The phone still would easily outperform many phones in the market. With the sort of development oneplus two is getting now easily it'll be future proof (atleast with custom roms) for another 2-3 years. Most problems are fixed by oxygen 3 and custom roms. I have no issues with throlling, finger print, etc. Marshmallow roms seems to have increased the performance of the phone. And 4gb ram is still enormously enough to kill all the tasks. Considering all this being said if you have the budget choose nexus 6p or even oneplus 3 now.
P. S: if you buy you got to flash AOSPA.
kirankumar1991 said:
I'm looking to replace my Moto G 2nd Gen with a phone which offers decent performance (light gaming and apps) and at least 1 or 1.5 days of battery backup. I have been closely reading OP2 XDA Forums and OP Community for a month and found a lot of issues related to fingerprint sensors, lags and heating.
Could you please tell me if things are improved in Oxygen OS 3 ? I also don't mind flashing custom ROMs, if they are stable.
I have read about the overheating issues in SD 810. Does it make the OP2 too hot to handle it with light gaming and normal apps (Mail, Maps, Chrome, etc.) usage? Or do you recommend settling down to the newly launched Zenfone 3 with some sacrifice in performance?
Thanks for the responses!
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I would said yes one - two months ago, but as the Oneplus 3 has been announced and is now out for buying, I would say no. In term of development, the Oneplus 3 is far away from the 2, as Cyanogenmod is already ported to it (4 hours after release).
I can't see any point sticking with the Oneplus 2. Go for the 3, this is my advise .
I would go for the OP2, the 3 doesn't seen much of an upgrade for the price
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Bought the OPT a few weeks ago and its an awesome machine, with 3.0.2 is great, great battery life, very snappy and i have had no issues related to over heating or fingerprint scanner, and if i think that my Note 4 scored 54000 odd on Antutu and my OPT scored 76000 (stock) odd which shows its massive performance potential, plus it's well built too and the camera is a real surprise, it's really good.
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Definitely, no.
I am selling it.
Go for a OnePlus 3
Hard to recommend op2 when op3 is out now. 2 gb ram more, far cooler processor, better build quality (subjective!) and a much better camera.
Thanks everyone for your opinion. I have ordered OP2 yesterday. Let's see how it turns out to be
Is true you have limitations with Exynos that you don't have with Snapdragon regarding editing source code?
Basically i need to buy a Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge and i want to know which version has less limits...
Personally I always buy the exynos ones for one their better optimized and more efficient. But that's my honest opinion. Someone could have a different opinion but that's what I feel. Only downside is no aosp roms usually.... that could be a big deal to some. Not to me I usually have a nexus phone too as I need two phones.
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Personally I always buy the exynos ones for one their better optimized and more efficient. But that's my honest opinion. Someone could have a different opinion but that's what I feel. Only downside is no aosp roms usually.... that could be a big deal to some. Not to me I usually have a nexus phone too as I need two phones.
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So the Exynos model can't have AOSP ROMs and Snapdragon one yes. For me is a big deal have this option on my phone.
I have a final fight in mind:
Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge vs Nexus 6P...
Be4stElectrjc said:
So the Exynos model can't have AOSP ROMs and Snapdragon one yes. For me is a big deal have this option on my phone.
I have a final fight in mind:
Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge vs Nexus 6P...
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Don't expect AOSP rom on US Snapdragon model since bootloader is still locked which mean no custom rom at all.
And AOSP rom is not impossible on exynos but it tend to be too buggy to be used as daily driver. So touchwiz is still better than aosp most of the time on exynos.
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Don't expect AOSP rom on US Snapdragon model since bootloader is still locked which mean no custom rom at all.
And AOSP rom is not impossible on exynos but it tend to be too buggy to be used as daily driver. So touchwiz is still better than aosp most of the time on exynos.
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SM-G935F VS Nexus 6P then. I prefer Nexus 6P since all in it is from google.
simranjit3001 said:
Personally I always buy the exynos ones for one their better optimized and more efficient. But that's my honest opinion. Someone could have a different opinion but that's what I feel. Only downside is no aosp roms usually.... that could be a big deal to some. Not to me I usually have a nexus phone too as I need two phones.
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You can install strongly debloated TouchWiz and it has no Samsung Apps and only some Google Apps that are required for system to run properly. I know that AOSP is for someone very important but why do you buy Samsung if you are going to use AOSP? Half of the gadgets or more are useless with AOSP. I must add that Touchwiz is running properly fast on S7 and I mean Contacts, Dialer, Settings because I change immidiately to Nova Launcher.
Buy Exynos. It is not locked, change ROM to modified Touchwiz, change launcher and you are going to be happy as a child
When using Samsung's Goodlock in combination with 3rd party 'stock-android' launcher (e.g. Nova or APEX) you're really close to AOSP, just missing some features but many other useful Touchwiz features will be held!
More info on Goodlock:
https://news.samsung.com/global/good-lock-customize-the-way-you-use-your-galaxy-smartphone
Download link:
http://www.apkmirror.com/apk/samsung-electronics-co-ltd/good-lock/good-lock-24-0-11-release/good-lock-24-0-11-android-apk-download/
With the S7/S7E it's no secret that Samsung's own Exynos SOC is the more optimised and stable chipset. You get better raw performance on the Snapdragon, primarily due to the superior GPU, but you pay for that with heat and inferior battery life. Also, for apps that are optimised for multi-core SOCs, the Exynos is superior due to having double the amount. It's for this reason applications open faster for example.
The downside is that Exynos is very much close source, so stable AOSP/CM roms are very difficult to make. However, there are two reasons why this shouldn't lead you to avoid this particular SOC. Firstly, the Snapdragon variant has a locked bootloader so, as things stand, you couldn't flash a non-signed 100% stock rom anyway. And that isn't likely to change. And secondly, why pay a premium for a device like this then put a third party vanilla rom on it that will take away many of the features that made the device premium in the first place. One example, you would only need compare camera speed and quality between CM and stock on an S7/S7E to see what I mean. I know from experience with Samsung phone in the past that there will be a world of difference.
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With the S7/S7E it's no secret that Samsung's own Exynos SOC is the more optimised and stable chipset. You get better raw performance on the Snapdragon, primarily due to the superior GPU, but you pay for that with heat and inferior battery life. Also, for apps that are optimised for multi-core SOCs, the Exynos is superior due to having double the amount. It's for this reason applications open faster for example.
The downside is that Exynos is very much close source, so stable AOSP/CM roms are very difficult to make. However, there are two reasons why this shouldn't lead you to avoid this particular SOC. Firstly, the Snapdragon variant has a locked bootloader so, as things stand, you couldn't flash a non-signed 100% stock rom anyway. And that isn't likely to change. And secondly, why pay a premium for a device like this then put a third party vanilla rom on it that will take away many of the features that made the device premium in the first place. One example, you would only need compare camera speed and quality between CM and stock on an S7/S7E to see what I mean. I know from experience with Samsung phone in the past that there will be a world of difference.
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Thanks, things are more clear now. Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge VS Nexus 6P now. Afaik Nexus 6P it is thinked entirely by google and for this reason it is my decision for the moment. But if the things you said are valid even for the Snapdragon in the Nexus, is better to take the Galaxy...
I'd say the choice should be between the s7 edge vs one plus 3.
Seems both phones are at par for battery usage now.
And from observation the exy version seems better than snapdragon overall
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I'd say the choice should be between the s7 edge vs one plus 3.
Seems both phones are at par for battery usage now.
And from observation the exy version seems better than snapdragon overall
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My personal preference is Nexus 6P, even if One Plus 3 is newer and better
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My personal preference is Nexus 6P, even if One Plus 3 is newer and better
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Seems to me that you want the nexus 6p already? If you feel it's best for you don't consider the s7 edge nothing we tell you will really help you...
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Seems to me that you want the nexus 6p already? If you feel it's best for you don't consider the s7 edge nothing we tell you will really help you...
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Yes, is true, i prefer it. But only if it has less limits of S7 Edge.
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Yes, is true, i prefer it. But only if it has less limits of S7 Edge.
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Well the s7edge has more other features and better specs and camera and best screen...
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Well the s7edge has more other features and better specs and camera and best screen...
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S7 Edge Hardware > Nexus 6p Hardware
Hope Nexus 6P Software > Samsung Galaxy S7 Edge software in terms o root, roms etc.
guaneet said:
I'd say the choice should be between the s7 edge vs one plus 3.
Seems both phones are at par for battery usage now.
And from observation the exy version seems better than snapdragon overall
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The OnePlus 3 is a fantastic phone, if you're buying on a budget. As a direct competitor to the S7 Edge in particular if money is not a factor, it falls short for me. It has a 1080p screen for example, something that was in flagships 3 years ago. 4k on mobile devices of this size is OTT for me, but 2k is perfect. I have put my S7 Edge and Note 3 (1080p like the OnePlus 3) together and there is a discernible difference in terms of visual pixels. I'm surprised they have used old technology in this respect. Also the camera falls well short of the quality on the S7.
Don't have money problems in this period.