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Root without wipe possible?

Is it possible to root the Nexus 7 without losing all the data I set up, like apps and their settings? My Nexus 7 is stock, locked bootloader. As I understand, I can't root without unlocking the bootloader and I can't unlock the bootloader without wiping everything. Correct? I remember doing this with my Galaxy Nexus and not knowing I would lose everything on the phone and now I don't want to make the same mistake again.. Also, Titanium Backup, I understand, cannot fully backup everything unless the device is rooted first. So no matter what, I must lose everything if I want to root?

Youre right
In order to properly root you need an unlocked boot loader, and unlocking the boot loader *will* wipe your nexus 7 of all user data
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You might be able to use this to create a full nandroid backup without unlocking, unlock the bootloader, and restore the nandroid.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1809195
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teomor said:
Is it possible to root the Nexus 7 without losing all the data I set up, like apps and their settings? My Nexus 7 is stock, locked bootloader. As I understand, I can't root without unlocking the bootloader and I can't unlock the bootloader without wiping everything. Correct? I remember doing this with my Galaxy Nexus and not knowing I would lose everything on the phone and now I don't want to make the same mistake again.. Also, Titanium Backup, I understand, cannot fully backup everything unless the device is rooted first. So no matter what, I must lose everything if I want to root?
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Use WugFresh's Root Toolkit to backup your apps and system apps.

might be a dumb question but I'm new to android so I want to ask.. is there any way to keep books/movies I have on my nexus 7 if I root it?

Same way I guess. Media is a lot easier to back up I presume.

It IS possible! There is a method to root your devices without unlocking the Bootloader and thus not wiping your data. See this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=32281529&postcount=15

Yes, it´s possible without unlocking the bootloader, just follow the link of the fellow above me.
It´s easey, and in two minutes you´ll have your nexus rooted without wiping your data.

Hi all.
Unfortunately, my Nexus 7runs under Android 4.2.1 and of course, the root attempt failed (idiot but couldn't resist trying !!!). Before that, I used SRSroot app which also gave up, though the process (SRS) succeeded on my Wiko phone (Android 4.0).
It'd be helpful if anyone else has an alternative solution for my N7.
Thanks in advance.

[Q] Questions about Nexus 7 rooting

Hello!
I have a couple of questions about rooting the Asus Nexus 7.
1. Will just a root alone wipe the device?
2. If I use Titanium Backup before unlocking the device bootloader, can I save a backup of everything (apks, app data, photos, videos e.t.c) on to my Windows 8 laptop and then restore it afterwards (like a disk image of Windows)?
3. If I install the Paranoid Android 3.x ROM, would that wipe device data again or not?
4. If I brick it (which I have done before with other phones, RIP LG Optimus Me), how easy is it to restore the original device firmware?
5. How would I go about updating my tablet whilst it is rooted/ParanoidAndroided and what would be the consequences of it?
6. What on earth does ROM actually stand for!?
Thank you!
-Orange

Hi, OrangeFlash81...
Taking your questions, one at a time...
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OrangeFlash81 said:
1. Will just a root alone wipe the device?
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ROOTING won't, but unlocking the BOOTLOADER as a prerequisite will.
OrangeFlash81 said:
2. If I use Titanium Backup before unlocking the device bootloader, can I save a backup of everything (apks, app data, photos, videos e.t.c) on to my Windows 8 laptop and then restore it afterwards (like a disk image of Windows).
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You can backup everything (granular) using Titanium , and via CWM/TRWP - nandroids (monolithic)... and adb pulled accordingly.
OrangeFlash81 said:
3. If I install the Paranoid Android 3.x ROM, would that wipe device data again or not?
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Don't know about PA. But I would expect you would lose all your current 'user data'. So make sure you back everything up with Titanium or Carbon first.
OrangeFlash81 said:
4. If I brick it (which I have done before with other phones, RIP LG Optimus Me), how easy is it to restore the original device firmware?
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Depends if it's a SOFTBRICK (which are always recoverable).. and very easy to reflash back to STOCK using FASTBOOT. If it's HARDBRICKED (usually caused by a corrupted or erased BOOTLOADER), you're kind of screwed.
OrangeFlash81 said:
5. How would I go about updating my tablet whilst it is rooted/ParanoidAndroided and what would be the consequences of it?
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Wait for the developer to release an updated version. You won't loose ROOT, if that's what your alluding to... CUSTOM ROMS, Paranoid included, are generally ROOTED by default.
OrangeFlash81 said:
6. What on earth does ROM actually stand for!?
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Erm... Read Only Memory...
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Right, that's as exhaustive as I can be... hope it helps.
Rgrds,
Ged.

1. the first time root will wipe the device while unlocking the bootloader. so make sure you back everything up, including the /sdcard directory.
2. not with titanium backup, as that requires root access to backup app data, the apps themselves and other things can be backed up without root.
3. you can choose if you want to factory reset or not when flashing a rom. it is not necessary, but recommended if you're switching roms or a major update.
4. as long as you dont screw up the bootloader, the toolkit in the dev section will be able to return it to the factory state, so no big worries there.
5. you will be able to download the rom from the thread and updates from there too, or you can download goomanager which takes care of things for you.
6. ROM stands for Read Only Memory, as a normal user doesnt have the privilege of modifying it.

GedBlake said:
ROOTING won't, but unlocking the BOOTLOADER as a prerequisite will.
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Thanks for the reply,
Is there any way to either:
1. Perform a full backup of the device (with apps, app data, photos, videos, everything) without root or
2. Root the device without unlocking the bootloader?
If it helps I have Android Developer Tools installed on my laptop so I can use adb commands. I'm aware of the adb backup command but I don't think that backs up all device data.
Thanks,
Orange

About question 2, no, you have to unlock boot loader then you can root. However, you can relock the boatloader after rooting the device. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Billchen0014 said:
About question 2, no, you have to unlock boot loader then you can root. However, you can relock the boatloader after rooting the device. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Thanks for telling me that!
It's the data wipe bit that's worrying me. What about question 1?

Well, you don't have access to the /data/data so yeah, maybe there is a way that I don't know, but as far as myself go, I rooted my devices on the day I bought it so I don't have to sorry about this problem

Billchen0014 said:
Well, you don't have access to the /data/data so yeah, maybe there is a way that I don't know, but as far as myself go, I rooted my devices on the day I bought it so I don't have to sorry about this problem
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So is that where everything is stored? Thanks.

For backing up *market* apps & their data on an unrooted device (that is, in preparation for rooting), check out the Carbon app. Apparently it uses an API provided by Android to perform this operation - it does not require privilege escalation techniques that root-aware apps (such as TiBu) use, but does require using a PC as a mandatory component of the process.
You can back up pictures/music/etc separately using MTP between the unrooted device and a PC.

bftb0 said:
For backing up *market* apps & their data on an unrooted device (that is, in preparation for rooting), check out the Carbon app. Apparently it uses an API provided by Android to perform this operation - it does not require privilege escalation techniques that root-aware apps (such as TiBu) use, but does require using a PC as a mandatory component of the process.
You can back up pictures/music/etc separately using MTP between the unrooted device and a PC.
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This is the method I'll use. Thanks!

[Q] Backing Up Multi Users

Hello. Has anyone found a way to do this yet? I found a couple threads that dated a couple months ago with the same question but no answer. So if anyone has figured out a way to backup the apps and data on both a primary and secondary user account please help. Im pretty sure others are interested as well. I really want to try out some different roms but my brother will be really mad if I lose all his data again . Last time i backed the tablet up with wugfreshs toolkit thinking itd back up everything and when i found out it didnt after restoring i was screwed lol. Is there a way to pick what you want to restore with twrp? I know for my phone in cwm you can do an advanced restore and restore just certain things like apps and data. Is that possible for nexus 10?

I have the same problem kind of.
Have not tested but if you make nandroid backup in twrp on at least the data partition you should get all user data in the backup, right?
I however would like to make selected app backup in titanium where i could choose to include data for all or just single user. Not sure if possible.
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Johan1976 said:
I have the same problem kind of.
Have not tested but if you make nandroid backup in twrp on at least the data partition you should get all user data in the backup, right?
I however would like to make selected app backup in titanium where i could choose to include data for all or just single user. Not sure if possible.
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Yes with tarp it backs up all user data. But like you I also want to backup certain apps with titanium. I hope they add this feature soon because I like changing Roms to see my favorite. I'm about to flash paranoid android and I did a full backup first. If my bro gets mad I'll just restore the backup so he can have his stuff back
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Well i tried installing paranoid android. Then booted fine then i restored data via twrp and it wont boot i guess that doesnt work. Any other suggestions fir backing up multi accounts?
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If anyone is interested go into super su and enable multiusers so now you have root on all accounts then just back up apps on each account with titanium backup and move then to pc (just in case) then you can flash any rom you want and restore the apps. Hurray . Its not as smooth as id like becaise wiping data wipes new accounts so you have to readd them but just back up all pics to google plus and anything else to cpu. Your apps and data from titanium backup will be backed up and now you have everything saved. So if anyone needs this it works. Took me a while to finally figure out a way with lots of nandroid restoring but now i.got it
Time to flash some roms till i find a favorite
As u can see im very happy
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Johan1976 said:
I have the same problem kind of.
Have not tested but if you make nandroid backup in twrp on at least the data partition you should get all user data in the backup, right?
I however would like to make selected app backup in titanium where i could choose to include data for all or just single user. Not sure if possible.
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I found a solution that should help.look at my previous post
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abdel12345 said:
If anyone is interested go into super su and enable multiusers so now you have root on all accounts then just back up apps on each account with titanium backup and move then to pc (just in case) then you can flash any rom you want and restore the apps. Hurray . Its not as smooth as id like becaise wiping data wipes new accounts so you have to readd them but just back up all pics to google plus and anything else to cpu. Your apps and data from titanium backup will be backed up and now you have everything saved. So if anyone needs this it works. Took me a while to finally figure out a way with lots of nandroid restoring but now i.got it
Time to flash some roms till i find a favorite
As u can see im very happy
Sent from my LG-P970g
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I am trying to do the same as you! The way you described doing it, I think you are just using Titanium backup app and not nandroid backups in the end, is that right? So you used Titanium backup all your apps and their data (but not photos/other documents/files on your tablet), and then you flashed your new custom ROM and used Titanium again to restore all apps/data in each user account separately? Sounds straightforward if I have this right! I have not done this before, so want to understand it before I do!! Thanks for your help... :good:

glastolover27 said:
I am trying to do the same as you! The way you described doing it, I think you are just using Titanium backup app and not nandroid backups in the end, is that right? So you used Titanium backup all your apps and their data (but not photos/other documents/files on your tablet), and then you flashed your new custom ROM and used Titanium again to restore all apps/data in each user account separately? Sounds straightforward if I have this right! I have not done this before, so want to understand it before I do!! Thanks for your help... :good:
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It's kind of annoying but it works. You have to back up the apps in each account then move it to a computer then back up the next account and move it to computer then back up the next etc... You have to do this because it erases the secondary accounts when flashing a new ROM so you lose all the backups you made. So putting it on a CPU then moving it back after the flash will make sure you have them
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abdel12345 said:
It's kind of annoying but it works. You have to back up the apps in each account then move it to a computer then back up the next account and move it to computer then back up the next etc... You have to do this because it erases the secondary accounts when flashing a new ROM so you lose all the backups you made. So putting it on a CPU then moving it back after the flash will make sure you have them
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OK, thanks, sounds like I had described the right technique... will give it a try!

Data loss Question (I know you all are tired of these)

Hey guys,
I have a stupid question to ask. I backed up my data using titanium backup while on kitkat. I didn't move that data over to my pc.
I installed lollipop(OTA). Many problems, so I did a factory restore. Wiped everything.
Question: Is my titanium backup data truly gone, or is is saved somewhere that I can't see unless I re-root it again?
Thanks guys for taking the time to answer.

DancingInTheMoonlight said:
Hey guys,
I have a stupid question to ask. I backed up my data using titanium backup while on kitkat. I didn't move that data over to my pc.
I installed lollipop(OTA). Many problems, so I did a factory restore. Wiped everything.
Question: Is my titanium backup data truly gone, or is is saved somewhere that I can't see unless I re-root it again?
Thanks guys for taking the time to answer.
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Unless you synced it to the cloud, its gone. Sorry.

Backup before rooting

Hey guys,
Not exactly a newbie but I've always rooted my phone within days of getting it. Now I've decided to root my OP5 almost a month after my first use and I need help backing up. As unlocking the bootloader will wipe everything on my phone I was wondering whats the best way to backup without Root and then restoring it later? I've seen the adb method but those posts were back from ICS days not sure if they still apply now. Also I've read somewhere in this forum someone mentioned adb doesn't restore everything, I primarily want my photos restored as I can reinstall and readjust everything else.
If I copy my photos to my PC and then paste it back after rooting, I can trust it won't screw up the dates and arrangement in the gallery app right?
Thanks

Adb backup is good as long as the app developer hasn't blocked backup in his manifest.
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