Question regarding roms - Nexus 6P Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Can someone tell me what's the difference between roms & stock?. I'm new when it comes to roms, & I see not much difference in some. No hate please.
Is it similar to jailbreak tweaks etc?. Coming from iPhone, & giving android a shot again.
Cheers guys
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ROMs are what your phone runs on. Stock is a ROM, but it's stock, unaltered. 'ROMS' are user modified version of stock with additional features / customizations / optimazations.

gibbo82 said:
Can someone tell me what's the difference between roms & stock?. I'm new when it comes to roms, & I see not much difference in some. No hate please.
Is it similar to jailbreak tweaks etc?. Coming from iPhone, & giving android a shot again.
Cheers guys
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They're all ROMs, whether stock or custom, a ROM is just a name that's used for the operating system on your phone. I suppose if we were going to compare to Apple jailbreaking, a custom ROM would be similar, but it goes much further in depth with the level of customization. Custom ROMs usually have added features and optimisations that you won't find on the stock firmware. If you need a good guide on how to unlock, root, flash, I have authored a very detailed one here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6p/general/guides-how-to-guides-beginners-t3206928

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[Q] Optimized Stock

Hello everyone! I just spent awhile in the development forums looking for a simple optimized stock rom. Back on my Galaxy Nexus, I used to run Pete Alfonso's builds because they were pretty much stock with root and some simple optimizations and improvements. I can't seem to find any Nexus 4 roms of this type? Does anybody know any good, supported, but very minimal optimized stock roms? I don't want a CM10.1/AOKP/PA based rom. I don't want loads of custom code. Just a good quick rom!
Thanks
BraydenJames said:
Hello everyone! I just spent awhile in the development forums looking for a simple optimized stock rom. Back on my Galaxy Nexus, I used to run Pete Alfonso's builds because they were pretty much stock with root and some simple optimizations and improvements. I can't seem to find any Nexus 4 roms of this type? Does anybody know any good, supported, but very minimal optimized stock roms? I don't want a CM10.1/AOKP/PA based rom. I don't want loads of custom code. Just a good quick rom!
Thanks
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here you go (2nd post)
meangreenie said:
here you go (2nd post)
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That looks like a good start. Thank you!
Another other suggestions from anyone?

Looking for a ROM

I have a HTC One and I have been looking for the perfect ROM
I am after a ROM that:
Will remove bloatware, and give me the option of what I want/don't want installed on there
Will improve battery life
something that looks different from the stock look, I like the rayglobe ROMS (too much crap on them though)
IF someone could give me some advice, I would be grateful
Thanks
Every Rom is good. One way or another. Thread will be locked soon.
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hassan said:
Every Rom is good. One way or another. Thread will be locked soon.
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U beat me to it lol!
OP try them all mate! everyone on here is better than stock with its own optimisations and bloatware removed. also check out the themes section if you want a different look
new look no bloatware, try this rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2356654
or any other GE rom.. hope that helps!
Well
If you want different from stock then you can try the GE roms. Many roms offer both Sense and GE variations so try out the different GE roms around the forum. Might also want to change your kernel
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GPE Roms not receiving enough support?

I find it odd that there is not a single GPE Rom with added features or toolkits (like Sense 5 Toolkit for ARHD 22.0 Sense ROM).
Als, none of the GPE ROMs have OTA capabilities. If someone is able to walk me through, I would love to use one of the system dumps or Bigxies stock roms to create an OTA capable GPE ROm. If this is against forum rules, let me know Mods.
Did you look very hard?
sinless GE Rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43192892
One of the best roms in my opinion. There is no ota, but the customazation settings are there with the included gravity box toolkit and the xtheme engine. Check it out.
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Mihir1997 said:
I find it odd that there is not a single GPE Rom with added features or toolkits (like Sense 5 Toolkit for ARHD 22.0 Sense ROM).
Als, none of the GPE ROMs have OTA capabilities. If someone is able to walk me through, I would love to use one of the system dumps or Bigxies stock roms to create an OTA capable GPE ROm. If this is against forum rules, let me know Mods.
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or you could get the stock gpe rom and get ota....
Probably because we have CM/PA if you want a custom stock Android experience
EddyOS said:
Probably because we have CM/PA if you want a custom stock Android experience
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That would make sense, except that both those roms are having their fair share of camera based issues. I love CM, but cannot stand the mediocre camera performance. I love PA even more, but the camera issues remain.
FanDroid09 said:
Did you look very hard?
sinless GE Rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43192892
One of the best roms in my opinion. There is no ota, but the customazation settings are there with the included gravity box toolkit and the xtheme engine. Check it out.
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Whoah!
That is nice! I have NO idea why i never noticed this... Thanks for the heads up.
EddyOS said:
Probably because we have CM/PA if you want a custom stock Android experience
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True, but those AOSP based ones aren't as optimized as the GPe. I would rather take a stable and fast experience over a laggy and customizable experience any day. I love the AOSP ROMs, but the GPe is for those who don't want to be on the bleeding edge.
On a side note, the AOSP support for this device isn't that good either. Compared to my old GS2, there was tons of development going on as far as AOSP goes. That might be due to the fact that TouchWiz was terrible (still is). I am 100% satisfied with my One converted to GPe. Plus, when 4.4 comes out we will get a stable OTA in around 2 weeks (based on previous updates) whereas CM will still be in its unofficial stages by then.
Install the Xposed framework and then gravity box. It brings a lot of customization to GPE.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2316070

Custom ROMs for H990DS

Hi guys,
Now that we have root in our H990DS, do you know if any custom ROMs is being developed or ported to our devices?
What are your expectations? Do you think any ROM is coming anytime soon?
I am particularly interested in AOSP based ROMs.
lucfig said:
Hi guys,
Now that we have root in our H990DS, do you know if any custom ROMs is being developed or ported to our devices?
What are your expectations? Do you think any ROM is coming anytime soon?
I am particularly interested in AOSP based ROMs.
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I too am waiting for a custom rom as it would make things a LOT easier BUT i dont think anybody is interested in making roms for H990ds version as not many know that it has been rooted and even if somebody wants to the H990ds model is extremely complicated with secondary hardware and what not. The best hope we have is to request @emdroidle as he was the one to achieve root and by now probably knows the phone in and out.
Personally i feel, being on stock is more advisable... camera and sound are important factors that made us to choose this phone, Especially,,,H990DS has more features like B&O play and no other versions has this feature enabled...May be it would take some time for this development...
I too like AOSP, Yes...may be we need to wait...
A custom kernel with this stock rom would also make this device great...lets wait...
I really hate the LG UI and I can't believe they are able to make this phone lag sometimes. Am a big fan of AOSP/Google UI.
I will surely miss the Quad DAC and camera features, but I am already using google camera most of the time anyways. And Idon't care about the second screen.
lucfig said:
I really hate the LG UI and I can't believe they are able to make this phone lag sometimes. Am a big fan of AOSP/Google UI.
I will surely miss the Quad DAC and camera features, but I am already using google camera most of the time anyways. And Idon't care about the second screen.
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My thoughts exactly.
Im waiting 2
I hope it will be
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/dev-cm14-t3509953
LineageOS 14.1 is being worked on the for the H990DS. It requires a few special hacks and tips to get working, and they're also working on a way to get second screen support going too. I suggest you follow that thread and express your interest in the H990DS builds to encourage more development. Its been in the works for months now. Only thing they're unsure about is the DAC support as that uses proprietary code and they don't know where it is.
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DroneJC said:
A custom kernel with this stock rom would also make this device great...lets wait...
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You haven't heard of D.O.T.S? Or the mk2000 kernel?
have you tried superv20, it's not really a "custom rom" but a customisation of an official rom for a "better user experience".
roms for h990ds
https://forum.xda-developers.com/v20/development/rom-unofficial-lineageos-15-1-lg-v20-t3775689
https://hm1234.github.io/SuperV20/
I do not own or contribute to any of these.
Im currently using SuperV20 with the pixel launcher as the stock launcher on my H990DS, its a really good rom, all lag from the stock lg rom is gone and its really snappy
Vrokxx said:
Im currently using SuperV20 with the pixel launcher as the stock launcher on my H990DS, its a really good rom, all lag from the stock lg rom is gone and its really snappy
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Hey, can you in brief share the steps you used to go from stock to SuperV20? That would be really helpful.
From what I understand, 1)Downgrade to 2016 firmware to root using dirtysanta and twrp with it.
2) Flash Super V20 using twrp.
Is that right?
Yeah, I want to know the steps you took as well. Also, what exactly is the SuperV20 ROM? Is it just something that looks like LG's UI and makes it faster, or is it a completely new UI? Also, does it have the capability of using the V20's second screen and quad DAC? Send screenshots of the UI if you can. Thanks!
rikstar555 said:
Yeah, I want to know the steps you took as well. Also, what exactly is the SuperV20 ROM? Is it just something that looks like LG's UI and makes it faster, or is it a completely new UI? Also, does it have the capability of using the V20's second screen and quad DAC? Send screenshots of the UI if you can. Thanks!
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Super V20 is just a debloated stock based rom so DAC and second screen should be working
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cnjax said:
Super V20 is just a debloated stock based rom so DAC and second screen should be working
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Ok thanks! Now I just need to unlock bootloader of my H990DS, install twrp and flash the ROM.
lg v20 918DS
Is the rom and method also applicable for the 918DS ?
I'm planning to buy it, but have not found yet an option for root.
Thanks for for advice
aakashverma0007 said:
Hey, can you in brief share the steps you used to go from stock to SuperV20? That would be really helpful.
From what I understand, 1)Downgrade to 2016 firmware to root using dirtysanta and twrp with it.
2) Flash Super V20 using twrp.
Is that right?
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Im pretty sure, I think I had another rom or something on between stock and SuperV20. Anyway now im on Oreo which is so smooth and its on the latest security patch
Vrokxx said:
Im pretty sure, I think I had another rom or something on between stock and SuperV20. Anyway now im on Oreo which is so smooth and its on the latest security patch
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Cool cool. I've rooted already

Base roms

So I searched the whole rom recoveries kernel section, did not see any base roms. If there isn't, where to info about pulling system to make one? Trying to get a custom OOS rom going as AOSP can suck it lol. Original software is always more stable IMO
icedventimocha said:
So I searched the whole rom recoveries kernel section, did not see any base roms. If there isn't, where to info about pulling system to make one? Trying to get a custom OOS rom going as AOSP can suck it lol. Original software is always more stable IMO
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What is a base ROM for you?
Normally pure AOSP is considered as the reference as it's Google code without modification. But people don't like pure AOSP because it's lacking many features people are used to. So even AOSP labeled ROM have some non AOSP add-ons.
If you want a 'pure' AOSP ROM you'll have to compile it.
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What is a base ROM for you?
Normally pure AOSP is considered as the reference as it's Google code without modification. But people don't like pure AOSP because it's lacking many features people are used to. So even AOSP labeled ROM have some non AOSP add-ons.
If you want a 'pure' AOSP ROM you'll have to compile it.
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Back in the days someone usually created an optimized stock Rom for different devices based off the OEMs software so that others could flash it or use it as a base for custom ROMs based off of stock.
I believe that's what he is referencing if I am not mistaken.
icedventimocha said:
So I searched the whole rom recoveries kernel section, did not see any base roms. If there isn't, where to info about pulling system to make one? Trying to get a custom OOS rom going as AOSP can suck it lol. Original software is always more stable IMO
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There is no base ROM for the OnePlus 6T. Its so AOSP like almost everything is done from source. I thought about posting a base ROM, as that is what I used to primarily use (and usually posted). I wasnt much into Source.
Another cool thing some devs due are make mods that can be flashed in magisk, and so long as you have the stock oos you can enjoy there version of stock oos with whatever tweaks they have done to it such as custom settings apps, etc.
Milly7 said:
Back in the days someone usually created an optimized stock Rom for different devices based off the OEMs software so that others could flash it or use it as a base for custom ROMs based off of stock.
I believe that's what he is referencing if I am not mistaken.
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You are 100% correct
Scott said:
There is no base ROM for the OnePlus 6T. Its so AOSP like almost everything is done from source. I thought about posting a base ROM, as that is what I used to primarily use (and usually posted). I wasnt much into Source.
Another cool thing some devs due are make mods that can be flashed in magisk, and so long as you have the stock oos you can enjoy there version of stock oos with whatever tweaks they have done to it such as custom settings apps, etc.
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Nailed Scott as usual. This device and how android handles files is extremely different than other phones we've both worked on as well (pretty sure that's android specific) I'm gonna have to look into the magisk thing. Never did the from source thing so that might be over my head. Don't have Linux set up on my machine either so a lot of time would have to go into just getting a stock flashable to work with.
I want to get some of the mods and themes I always post for this phone, but this might be a hurtle as I usually got a base to run with. I always try to show some love and since developers are jumping ship (because the money's not there, let's not lie and say that isn't what it's about) I know my work would be appreciated
icedventimocha said:
You are 100% correct
Nailed Scott as usual. This device and how android handles files is extremely different than other phones we've both worked on as well (pretty sure that's android specific) I'm gonna have to look into the magisk thing. Never did the from source thing so that might be over my head. Don't have Linux set up on my machine either so a lot of time would have to go into just getting a stock flashable to work with.
I want to get some of the mods and themes I always post for this phone, but this might be a hurtle as I usually got a base to run with. I always try to show some love and since developers are jumping ship (because the money's not there, let's not lie and say that isn't what it's about) I know my work would be appreciated
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The magisk modules are a great way to go because its reversible as well. Not sure if you knew that. You can uninstall these MagiskROM's just as easy as installing.
Scott said:
The magisk modules are a great way to go because its reversible as well. Not sure if you knew that. You can uninstall these MagiskROM's just as easy as installing.
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I did, but think I'm just gonna make a flashable over stock package, too much catching up to do so gonna stick to what I know

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